GameSamba's hall of shameless condemnation

[Seher]

Originally Posted by erttzzadfk

I'm sorry but i still like a banlist for RO.

Yes, many players would love that. It’s still wrong. And sorry to disappoint you, Gamesamba is about as unprofessional as Gamigo 3 years ago. Gamigo is rather professional now. Which isn’t necessarily better all the time, of course, but it usually is.

[erttzzadfk]

Originally Posted by Seher

Yes, many players would love that. It’s still wrong. And sorry to disappoint you, Gamesamba is about as unprofessional as Gamigo 3 years ago. Gamigo is rather professional now. Which isn’t necessarily better all the time, of course, but it usually is.

Posts like that are easy to answer after i wrote a book one post before:
No, i dont think so.

[Seher]

You can think whatever you want, it’s still not true. And your so called compromise is hardly one, as you’ve stated yourself: It can still be used to create a banlist. And that’s what you want, isn’t it? What other reason is there to want to know about bans? You’ll notice if they reacted to your request when players start missing anyway. That’s already enough for your witch hunt, giving out more detailed information about the ban is just too much.

[erttzzadfk]

Originally Posted by Seher

You can think whatever you want, it’s still not true. And your so called compromise is hardly one, as you’ve stated yourself: It can still be used to create a banlist. And that’s what you want, isn’t it? What other reason is there to want to know about bans? You’ll notice if they reacted to your request when players start missing anyway. That’s already enough for your witch hunt, giving out more detailed information about the ban is just too much.

Informations could be used to create an own banlist. And that's what you want, isnt it?" and this would end in a wichhunt too etc...
It becomes boring, im sry.
We should kick all sanctions, cause someone could hear from other users about it and it would end in a wichhunt.
And everything will become much better. People will find out the reasons for the rules by themselves, and act on their own experiences in future.
Welcome to a wonderful world..
PS: Hope some politicans of our rl read this too so will have peace in the whole world soon instead of this dark aged police states. And remember: sometimes your laws hit the wrong people...that's a reason to kick our laws as soon as possible too.

Originally Posted by erttzzadfk

At the end for me is just one question left "do we want this game a place to be withou cheaters, trolls, spammers, bugusers, flamer or dont we"?

We'll have to give smth to get it - that's a fact.
And after 4 years this is ok for me !

We all know NGD's game Bunch of Heroes since the release 2011-09-21. NGD is working with Steam (Valve). The installed Anticheat used there is VAC.
12 million players / 700.000 of them official said "i'm cheating". Source: http://arxiv.org/abs/1112.4915v1
Perhaps it makes more sense to write in the GameSamba forum if you've got problems with a ban list there cause i dont think NGD here is the "big brother" you might be looking for when i'm looking at something like this: Ban List based on Steam IDs caught with VAC
And i'm not talking about a simple character nickname. Have a look here: What is a STEAM ID?

[Seher]

Originally Posted by erttzzadfk

Informations could be used to create an own banlist. And that's what you want, isnt it?" and this would end in a wichhunt too etc...
It becomes boring, im sry.

What else do you want that information for, other than defaming players? Do you want a confirmation that they actually ban someone? That’s ridiculous. Do you think they don’t ban if there’s no list? That’s even more ridiculous. And childish.

Hey, look, we are banning people! Can I haz cookie?

[erttzzadfk]

After reading your post i start to understand. All publishers out there who are using banlists do it to get some cookies. Thank you for opening my eyes.

It think i told you now what i'm thinking about this topic and what i think about this thread specially in this forum here.
Was writing enough in here to explain why im thinking what i'm still thinking.
The last one out turns off the lights.

[philip111]

game sambas lame.

[Vaylos]

Seher, I understand you, believe me, but I think you should stop feeding the troll. It's obvious he's only going to think that his way (ban list for teh winz!) is the right way.

However in the interest of support of a ban list....please cite examples of other well known games (preferably top tier along the lines of Dark Age of Camelot, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Rift, etc. etc.) Oh, maybe not WoW because the community sucks ass. In the games that actually have a defame (ban) list, does it really do any good? Really? And what are the communities like?

Rather than say "other games use them and have low amounts of cheaters" Cite examples, otherwise it is meaningless.

Anyway, the point is, the ban list does no good period. Cheaters gonna cheat. Hell, having a notoriety list might encourage more trolls and cheaters just for sh*ts and giggles. Just because there is a list doesn't mean there is going to be a reduction of cheating. Bans will happen regardless of whether there is a list or not. The list just shows no tact on the part of the company. That's all.

[Torcida]

Honestly don't you guys have anything better to do then to complain about this?

[Seher]

Originally Posted by erttzzadfk

After reading your post i start to understand. All publishers out there who are using banlists do it to get some cookies.

Yes, that’s pretty much it. The biggest advantage for the company doing it is showing off how good and diligent they are at catching cheaters. Not much of a benefit for the user.

Originally Posted by Vaylos

Seher, I understand you, believe me, but I think you should stop feeding the troll.

Originally Posted by Vaylos

[continues feeding the troll]