The halloween event shows pretty well that...

Myxir · 10-29-2009, 03:59 PM

Some minor points that immediately came to my mind with playing during the halloween event.

... (1) there can be much action and fun in the game.
Now there is much more war going on in the warzone. Fights are happening on nearly every fort (and saves as well :/)
Grinding spots are nearly empty.
Why isn't there so much action everytime?

It just shows that RvR in this game is not important enough. Now people fight for stupid masks like crazy fools

I think it should be more rewarded with costumizing stuff. Giving more appeal to war could improve the gameplay in war zone a lot, as it is now during the event.
The war zone is quite dynamic at the moment, I think! Very good!

... (2) RO gameplay mechanics are not be made for such big fights. In the laaaaaaarge crowds it's impossible to select a special enemy you want to target. You just click one and spam your areas. Coordinated attacks are very very hard to perform. FPS and lag are aweful which makes it even harder.
Additonally there is the problem with sultars terror that is currently discussed in another thread. An army can be knocked for minutes if timed well.

... (3) all classes have a real meaning in the game, except hunters. I already mentioned that grinding spots are mostly empty now, so you cannot go on a decent hunt trip.
In RvR it's very hard to play a hunter successful. No useful areas to use, selective operations impossible because of the points mentioned in (2). But I think this applies to nearly all classes.

So all in all the event shows that there is quite a lot of potential in the game but due to performance and game mechanic reasons it's mostly unplayable (for me at least).

Comp · 10-29-2009, 07:53 PM

I'm doing fine with my hunter, but then I'm configed to do more control than anything. By using 17 tricks I can greatly assist my mates..

Acknor · 10-29-2009, 08:01 PM

...with a big enough zerg even I can get RP

Domino_ · 10-30-2009, 11:18 AM

I think that the lag/fps issues are mainly for RA server, when I've visited Ra yestarday i really couldnt play and i wasnt even in a war due to a lag so i had just a short hunt trip :/
For Horus it's way better.
But yea the lag kills the fun

Brother-brian · 10-30-2009, 03:14 PM

A+ to this post.

When will NGD realize that gameplay-gameflow is more important than shiny new graphics? they really should be focusing more on correcting the awful,awful lag problem in large battles, and the broken/unbalanced powers, instead of making prettier scenery. I don't want to look at a tree or a rock, i want to click on enemy, have him stay selected, and destroy him/her with extreme prejudice.

w_larsen · 10-30-2009, 04:06 PM

i believe, that new engine adresses lag a bit. haven't tested it on amun yet, as my graphics card was unsupported. engine normally is more than just new, shiny graphics.

chilko · 10-30-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother-brian

A+ to this post.

When will NGD realize that gameplay-gameflow is more important than shiny new graphics? they really should be focusing more on correcting the awful,awful lag problem in large battles.

We know this guys.
This is why we are working on a new engine mainly, not because of the graphics.

UmarilsStillHere · 10-30-2009, 06:02 PM

New engine with most things off/low will look not much better than the current graph, but should give better fps less freezing etc, at least thats how I understand it

kamax · 10-30-2009, 06:52 PM

I don't know for you but my game is laggy not because the network but low fps. Of course the ping is higher with this event but most of the time is correct, only fps are low ~15/10/5 fps.

If the new engine give more fps, that what people call "lag" can be reduced a lot.

UmarilsStillHere · 10-30-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamax

I don't know for you but my game is laggy not because the network but low fps. Of course the ping is higher with this event but most of the time is correct, only fps are low ~15/10/5 fps.

If the new engine give more fps, that what people call "lag" can be reduced a lot.

Same,
10char

10-29-2009, 03:59 PM	#1
Myxir Count Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,164	The halloween event shows pretty well that... Some minor points that immediately came to my mind with playing during the halloween event. ... (1) there can be much action and fun in the game. Now there is much more war going on in the warzone. Fights are happening on nearly every fort (and saves as well :/) Grinding spots are nearly empty. Why isn't there so much action everytime? It just shows that RvR in this game is not important enough. Now people fight for stupid masks like crazy fools I think it should be more rewarded with costumizing stuff. Giving more appeal to war could improve the gameplay in war zone a lot, as it is now during the event. The war zone is quite dynamic at the moment, I think! Very good! ... (2) RO gameplay mechanics are not be made for such big fights. In the laaaaaaarge crowds it's impossible to select a special enemy you want to target. You just click one and spam your areas. Coordinated attacks are very very hard to perform. FPS and lag are aweful which makes it even harder. Additonally there is the problem with sultars terror that is currently discussed in another thread. An army can be knocked for minutes if timed well. ... (3) all classes have a real meaning in the game, except hunters. I already mentioned that grinding spots are mostly empty now, so you cannot go on a decent hunt trip. In RvR it's very hard to play a hunter successful. No useful areas to use, selective operations impossible because of the points mentioned in (2). But I think this applies to nearly all classes. So all in all the event shows that there is quite a lot of potential in the game but due to performance and game mechanic reasons it's mostly unplayable (for me at least). __________________ French Warriors of Syrtis: Nessa Telrunya (Hunter) - Myxir (Warlock) - Estra (Conjurer) In War it does not matter who is right, but who is left.

10-29-2009, 07:53 PM	#2
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	I'm doing fine with my hunter, but then I'm configed to do more control than anything. By using 17 tricks I can greatly assist my mates.. __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

10-29-2009, 08:01 PM	#3
Acknor Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 75	...with a big enough zerg even I can get RP __________________ Acknor - 50 Barb / Nyvek - 50 Warlock / Quilleth an Fiach - 32 Hunter / Aloysius - 29 Conj I N Q U I S I T I O N

10-30-2009, 11:18 AM	#4
Domino_ Initiate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vault 15 Posts: 147	I think that the lag/fps issues are mainly for RA server, when I've visited Ra yestarday i really couldnt play and i wasnt even in a war due to a lag so i had just a short hunt trip :/ For Horus it's way better. But yea the lag kills the fun __________________ retired

10-30-2009, 06:02 PM	#8
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	New engine with most things off/low will look not much better than the current graph, but should give better fps less freezing etc, at least thats how I understand it __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

10-30-2009, 03:14 PM	#5
Brother-brian Master Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 271	A+ to this post. When will NGD realize that gameplay-gameflow is more important than shiny new graphics? they really should be focusing more on correcting the awful,awful lag problem in large battles, and the broken/unbalanced powers, instead of making prettier scenery. I don't want to look at a tree or a rock, i want to click on enemy, have him stay selected, and destroy him/her with extreme prejudice.

10-30-2009, 04:06 PM	#6
w_larsen Initiate Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 111	i believe, that new engine adresses lag a bit. haven't tested it on amun yet, as my graphics card was unsupported. engine normally is more than just new, shiny graphics.

10-30-2009, 06:52 PM	#9
kamax Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: france Posts: 397	I don't know for you but my game is laggy not because the network but low fps. Of course the ping is higher with this event but most of the time is correct, only fps are low ~15/10/5 fps. If the new engine give more fps, that what people call "lag" can be reduced a lot.