Is this an allowed use of Vital Surrender?

AlsConj · 07-23-2009, 10:11 AM

Vital Surrender was in the past of NO use, i believe

However, two or so updates ago, Auras (with a range) were modified to let their effect go through walls, trees, etc etc.

Vital Surrender got a 20range. so basically it has the same opportunity as any others Auras: Going through walls.

However, as this might not be intended to be done like this, i have sent email to NGD support and im posting this here to have reactions.
(especially from Syrtis horus who had a bad time with me yesterday

)

e30G · 07-23-2009, 12:46 PM

I think that should be a bug. Last I checked, auras/areas were not intended to pass through obstacles.

Nightchill · 07-23-2009, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30ernest

I think that should be a bug. Last I checked, auras/areas were not intended to pass through obstacles.

orly? funny, i thought we should learn to play in these situations because some "veterans" approve of it. but yeah, i guess my similar bug report was just me not knowing how to play. along with people justifying the use of cb or mod on fort walls to get everyone dizzy as tactical advantage.

e30G · 07-23-2009, 12:54 PM

There was a change to auras a few updates ago... It's in one of the changelogs. It read something like Auras/Areas now check for obstacles.

I'm assuming that if auras were meant to pass through obstacles, then they shouldn't need to check for obstacles.

-Edge- · 07-23-2009, 12:56 PM

If spells like tracking are affected by obstacles I think its only fair to apply the same rule here.

AlsConj · 07-23-2009, 02:01 PM

Version: 1.0.5 (Date: 2009/4/7)

- Modified: The following powers are not checking for obstacles: Major Healing, Mana Communion, Protection Dome, Static Field, Mana Pylon, Heroic Presence, Deflecting Barrier, Shield Wall and Stars Shield.

I guess vital surrender works the same as do the above listed.
awaiting NGD answer too

viperdh · 07-24-2009, 12:39 AM

VS always did work like this... many times on Horus I would VS in a fort and get people outside the fort well before the update mentioned

AlsConj · 07-24-2009, 09:05 AM

Hehe, im gotta love to rez people inside from outside me!

be careful enemys.

viperdh · 07-24-2009, 02:40 PM

you need only 1 person within the range 20 it will ressy other people upto range 60ish. Found this out at tenax, could only JUST see the person that my VS brought up. Enjoy the spell it is VERY good if used at the right time, just remember, the army is without a conju, so weight it up before you hit that button.

e30G · 07-26-2009, 01:23 PM

What other spells can you cast on allies through walls?

07-23-2009, 10:11 AM	#1
AlsConj Pledge Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 27	Is this an allowed use of Vital Surrender? Vital Surrender was in the past of NO use, i believe However, two or so updates ago, Auras (with a range) were modified to let their effect go through walls, trees, etc etc. Vital Surrender got a 20range. so basically it has the same opportunity as any others Auras: Going through walls. However, as this might not be intended to be done like this, i have sent email to NGD support and im posting this here to have reactions. (especially from Syrtis horus who had a bad time with me yesterday ) __________________ Mrdoc 60 - RA Erok 50 - Haven

07-23-2009, 12:46 PM	#2
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	I think that should be a bug. Last I checked, auras/areas were not intended to pass through obstacles. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

07-23-2009, 12:54 PM	#4
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	There was a change to auras a few updates ago... It's in one of the changelogs. It read something like Auras/Areas now check for obstacles. I'm assuming that if auras were meant to pass through obstacles, then they shouldn't need to check for obstacles. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

07-23-2009, 02:01 PM	#6
AlsConj Pledge Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 27	Version: 1.0.5 (Date: 2009/4/7) - Modified: The following powers are not checking for obstacles: Major Healing, Mana Communion, Protection Dome, Static Field, Mana Pylon, Heroic Presence, Deflecting Barrier, Shield Wall and Stars Shield. I guess vital surrender works the same as do the above listed. awaiting NGD answer too __________________ Mrdoc 60 - RA Erok 50 - Haven

07-24-2009, 09:05 AM	#8
AlsConj Pledge Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 27	Hehe, im gotta love to rez people inside from outside me! be careful enemys. __________________ Mrdoc 60 - RA Erok 50 - Haven

07-23-2009, 12:56 PM	#5
-Edge- Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Łódż, Poland Posts: 1,506	If spells like tracking are affected by obstacles I think its only fair to apply the same rule here.

07-24-2009, 12:39 AM	#7
viperdh Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 64	VS always did work like this... many times on Horus I would VS in a fort and get people outside the fort well before the update mentioned

07-24-2009, 02:40 PM	#9
viperdh Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 64	you need only 1 person within the range 20 it will ressy other people upto range 60ish. Found this out at tenax, could only JUST see the person that my VS brought up. Enjoy the spell it is VERY good if used at the right time, just remember, the army is without a conju, so weight it up before you hit that button.

07-26-2009, 01:23 PM	#10
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	What other spells can you cast on allies through walls? __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical