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Old 12-16-2011, 01:09 PM   #1
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Default Barbs : Questions regarding Armor/Grinding/Spells etc.

I have played all the different classes and seem to struggle most both PVP and when Grinding with my Barb circa level 41.

I play in the Alsius realm and the Inner beach is best place at this level to grind. So we have Kelonte, Aquantis, Golems and Saurians there.

I've found the following threads useful:

Guide to grinding your characters:
http://regnumonlinegame.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=80467

Mob Damage types:
http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=72278

which leads to the question:
1) If I am grinding on the Inner Beach, should I downgrade my armor to something like the level 31 Ragnor set?
(available from Tailor upstairs in Birka say).
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Arild_Brightstar

See:
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Breastplates
Slashing (Normal) - Kelonte
Piercing (Good) - Aquantis/Saurian
Blunt (Good) - Golem

Most of my level 39-41 armor has bad or very bad for Slashing/Piercing/Blunt damage resistance, so perhaps this is why I find grinding at this level really arduous....

Now it appears you can also compensate for some of these things with passives too. So depending what you are grinding on it makes sense to customise your config too.


Code:
Spell tree         Spell         Resists   Good against
Slashing Weapons   Iron Skin     Blunt     Golem
Piercing Weapons   Bendable      Slashing  Kelonte (claws)
Blunt Weapons      Steel Temper  Piercing  Saurian/Aquantis (teeth/spear)
One of the things that also confused me reading blood-ravens post in the grinding thread was:
Quote:
with your last mana you cast thirst for blood (TFB) on level 2.
He had primarily configured his setup for Slashing weapons as follows:
http://trainer.claninquisition.org/t...easeaaDzbnaaaa

2) So when blood-raven suddently talks about using TFB, does he switch weapons at that point to a two handed one?
3) Or will TFB still work with a sword? .... which then begs the question, "Is category of weapon you wield is not tied to spell book?".

That brings me on to my next question:
4) There seemed to be quite a debate as to the best weapon for grinding. Nobody mentioned the new duel wielding weapons (one in each hand). A similar comparison for PVP would be welcome too. Later in thread it seemed people preferred spear over hammer and hammer over sword. (axe/mace etc goes where?)

5) In ascertaining which weapon is the best - there is also a section in the Regnum wiki talking about how to work out hits/second depending on weapon speed. This way you could compare a Fast to a Very slow weapon to see how much damage is dished per second.
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons
Code:

Speed           Fast Medium Slow Very Slow
Hits per second 0.53  0.40  0.31  0.26
Seconds per hit 1.88  2.53  3.19  3.80
6) It would be useful if somone had worked out if certain mobs are more susceptible to certain types of damage too. So if you go for the characters in the Alsius Inner beach, what would you use for each?

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Old 12-16-2011, 01:45 PM   #2
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regarding armor:beast armor is fine in case of protection from mobs.
skills: weapon, 2h and warcries. as someone mentioned, you can just go 2 hit grind mode by having berserk and weapon magni(or tfb).
weapons:doesn't matter which weapon you use. tho i had better times grinding with epic 2h v slow spear.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:45 PM   #3
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I can give you a couple of answers.
First, try to use this online tool (kit.snuggly1.com) to see how a different armor respond to the damage. I am not sure that a very good resistance is better than another armor with less resistance but with an higher armor value, use the tool and let us know.

For TFB, you need 2handed or dual wield to activate it, otherwise it will not work, anyway an online test will cost you nothing .
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:54 PM   #4
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I always liked to use a very slow weapon for grind, but only if you are able to kill the mob in 2 hits. <-- if this doesn't work switch to a slower weapon. Or ofc call in a conju with bless weapon and other buffs.

watch your mana. try to use Normal hits as much at possible.


Most very slow weapons are blunt. At lvl 40-41 you can also get a vslow axe iirc.
You are Above lvl 37 wich means you should always have warcries tree on 19 and berserk + overwhelming stngth at lvl 5.

i think this is about the setup that i used at that lvl.
http://trainer.claninquisition.org/t...aaufaaLFbnaaaa

if you dont like this, switch to slash or pierc but keep using those same type of spells. (accurate swings/brutal impacts/agile manuvre and
forcefull blow/guttling/south cross)

At higher lvl you can also get Kick 4/5. its usefull for grind.

About the armor, Armor is very important for warriors. Even tho it costs much.. i still recomend to buy the newest type of armor from the merchant.
But dont worry to much about all resists and stuff, you will use the armor only 1/2 lvls anyway.

Lowlvl grind is a bitch, it will be better when you are higher. Ask for a support conju and you will have the best grind experience of all classes ;P
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:31 PM   #5
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Slash > Blunt.

What is this thing you call "Pierce"?
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:07 PM   #6
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Slash > Blunt.

What is this thing you call "Pierce"?
There is more than one answer to that:
1) It's the spell tree.
2) It't the type of damage a weapon can dish out
3) It's the type of damage you can receive from a mob (For piercing : teeth from animals/spears from Aquantis/Arrows when PVP etc)
4) It's how well a piece of armor deals with a particular damage type
See:
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Damage

When you click on an item of armor in your inventory it shows 5 icons under each other. The order is:
Slashing, Piercing, Blunt, Fire, Ice, Lightening.

Mobs generally don't dish out the last three. There are some Legendary ones that do - such as Ades. http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Ades (ghosts/phantoms etc probably do too).

Different classifications of weapons dish out different types of damage:
Spear, Sword, Rapier, Axe, Mace, Hammer etc - they all have similar icon(s) of one or two types of damage dealt.

I also did a test on Amun - admittedly not an exhaustive test.
I found that with level 31 Ragnor set - I did indeed sustain less damage against a Kelonte than with the higher level 39-41 armor too - which surprised me. - This was a 'normal' category armor resistance- so good on others is only gonna be better again...

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Old 12-16-2011, 03:26 PM   #7
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regarding armor:beast armor is fine in case of protection from mobs.
Are you sure this is the correct name for armor for Barb? Only I don't recall seeing this for sale anywhere? Where can you get it?
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Breastplates

Finally found answer to this... Dver Run. Vermil Shadowborn...
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Vermil_Shadowborn
You were correct (omission from Wiki):
Level 36 Armor 136 (+4)
Normal (Slashing)
Very good (Piercing)
Good (Blunt)

versus Ragnar's:

Level 31 Armor 120 (+1)
Normal (Slashing)
Good (Piercing)
Good (Blunt)

But I saw no pauldron of this classification for sale...
Osfrid in Birka has Level 35 one 136 (+2)
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Osfrid


As a final footnote... For any of you searching for darned merchant that sells duel wielding (off hand) weaponry..
Here is the answer:
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Oddi_Fullglass

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Old 12-16-2011, 03:44 PM   #8
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http://kit.snuggly1.com/
This would be useful if site updated for some of newer armor sets.
Such as... Executor for Barb. (most of my stuff is that - & one Avenger).
They don't have the Ragnar (or Beast) sets either.
So it means a lot of fiddling around on about 30+ fields.
(damn wish I didn't sell the Ragner set -always upgraded to best for level on other classes. Now gonna buy again...)

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Old 12-16-2011, 04:48 PM   #9
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Still not a Barb convert....
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:30 PM   #10
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I think you do not have to care about all of this.
I join pauluzz's opinion, to get the efficient grind it's better to use a weapon with the one you can kill mobs in two hits.
Add to this the mana spell consumption, if you use slashing and think about using southcross you will have to grind with a mage for the mana (no dragon helm before level 50).
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