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Old 03-17-2009, 06:48 AM   #1
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Have you ever questioned the reality that you were taught to believe?
Have you ever seen how a tree grows from year to year, and when you cut it down did you take the time to count its rings?
Did you ever believe in something that others thought made you seem a little less then normal?
What is reality?
What does it mean to be a human?
And when does a human know when its collective self, that which is called society or humanity, is doing more harm then good?


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Originally Posted by Collide: Tempted

the surface is transparent
stranger here in me
filter through like sun
future, i am past
though your hunger feels the same
i am wanting, give me breath
i am truth you can't explain
i am treasure, i am dust
i am water, i am rain

i am tempted here
i am the hunter, i am the prey
though you're ten thousand years
every moment remains
i am future, i am past
i am haunted, i am blessed
and i'm filtered through like sun
until the moment comes undone
i am hunter, i am prey
i am water, i am rain
some light, some rain flows through me
some light, some rain flows through me

i am tempted here
i am the hunter, i am the prey
though your ten thousand years
every moment remains

lies, the night conscious one
i am earth, i am water, i am ground
i am wanting, give me breath
it's all transparent
i am the stranger here
it's all transparent
just the same as fiction
and the truth you can't explain
though your hunger feels the same
i am wanting give me
some light, some rain flows through me
some light, some rain flows through me

i am tempted in here
i am the hunter, i am the prey
though those ten thousand years
every moment goes astray
give me breath

Earth she is the mother of us all.
Yet man betrays it all...
His dark deeds have yet to come to pass,
But when they do the whole system will collapse...


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Originally Posted by Killing Joke: Implant

Silent weapons for a quiet war...
Under my skin, getting under my skin
all systems go
security clause
passing of laws
reality
silence, in the air
silence, in the air
acceptance
information from birth
animals are first
then man

Silent weapons for a quiet war...
ID
Not free
for me
you can't escape
implant
implant to the next step
you don't want to protect
you just want to fucking control

Know my DNA, know my DNA
my structure
know the movement of my day
know the movement of my day and haunts
Hypnotise
Hypnotise
Acclimatise
fingers in control, fingers in control

Silent weapons for a quiet war...
ID
Not free
for me
you can't escape
implant
everything is under control

Deep below the ground
Deep below the ground
Blasphemies
Deep below the ground
Deep below the ground
Hypnotise
Hypnotise
Acclimatise
Hypnotise
Hypnotise
Acclimatise

Silent weapons for a quiet war...
ID
Not free
for me
you can't escape
implant
Tear up your ID cards
and stick your implant up your ass
you just want to fucking control

The subtleties of our environment blinds us to what the reality is.
Without questioning, one can never come to be and the truth of reality can never come within grasp.

Sit in the dark, undisturbed by your environment and contemplate upon your actions, the actions of people you know, the actions of corporations, banks and governments...
Feel their moves, and dissolve into their actions - while there expand your scope of vision to include groups of people, nations and mother earth...

The singularity that you call the self is now meaningless within such an elusive matrix of vision and thought.
But the question remains: Can you feel it?


Quote:
Originally Posted by KMFDM: Spit Or Swallow

What's so hard to understand?
Which part did you not get?
What exactly floats your boat?
Who do you abet?

Clinging to the status quo
Dispute state of affairs
Instead of ringing in the change
Content with splitting hairs

Better die on your feet than live on your knees
In the absence of justice there will be no peace

Spit or swallow
Pretend or commit
Lead or follow
Ideal or unfit
Spit or swallow
Palace or pit
Legionnaire or
Hypocrite

Hide behind your pious words
Lament your desperate state
Do you believe in action
Or play victim to your fate?

Spit or swallow
Deny or admit
Lead or follow
Arise or quit
Spit or swallow
Rebel or submit
Try or die trying
Swallow or spit

War is the rich man's terrorism
Terrorism is the poor man's war

What am I supposed to make
Of people like you?
What you say is not enough
It's what you do

Cowardly bewailing
Too frightened to stand tall
Play the hand you have been dealt
You've got no balls at all

Drown in your blood
Or live in your shit

The threat of chaos it will envelop you...
Envisioned from a trance, truth though not like the reality that is being shoveled to you...
Resist the temptation to feed, to gorge on hollow substance...
For there is no truth in rotting meat!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Funker Vogt: This World

For centuries and centuries
I walked along their battlefields
Rotten flesh and burned soil
Is all what they have left

A strange desire for destruction
Can be felt at all these places
An awful waste of resources
All for their killing machinery

A world all made of battlefields
A world all drowned in blood
A world which will not last forever
Is all that we have got

A world all made of battlefields
A world all built for wars
And now we take the battlefields
Far out to the stars

They get better year by year
With a frightening efficiency
Killing thousands in one strike
By pushing just one button

So I have been everywhere
From the jungle to the mountain
And even in the deepest sea
I saw the signs of a past war

A world all made of battlefields
A world all drowned in blood
A world which will not last forever
Is all that we have got

A world all made of battlefields
A world all built for wars
And now we take the battlefields
Far out to the stars

Is this the fate of humanity?
The epoch we live in is slowly coming to an end (the death of capitalism)...
How will we close the door, and what lies behind the other that we open?
Remember, the end is never too far away.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Assemblage 23: I Am The Rain

Too eager to appease
The cure is the disease
And it's only growing worse

Day by day it takes its hold
Divides its cells a thousandfold
And makes your blindness seem perverse

Out of sight and out of mind
Are deadly traits when they're combined
But it's easier that way

Sit and watch the world go by
While all the problems multiply
With nothing left to do but pray

I am the rain
Falling down to cover you
Wish me away
But I'm here for your own good
I am the storm
Sent to wake you from your dream
Show me your scorn
But you'll thank me in the end

These amenities are nice
But there is need for sacrifice
You must lose so you may gain

It's too easy to malign
The implements that steal our time
But it's we who are to blame

Fill your pockets while you can
And try to keep the upper hand
The voice of reason sounds so shrill

Surround yourself with all you own
Work your fingers to the bone
And happiness evades you still

I am the rain
Falling down to cover you
Wish me away
But I'm here for your own good
I am the storm
Sent to wake you from your dream
Show me your scorn
But you'll thank me in the end

Too eager to appease
You've lost the forest for the trees
And it really is a shame

It is such a sorry sight
When you evaluate your life
You've only got yourself to blame

I am the rain
Falling down to cover you
Wish me away
But I'm here for your own good
I am the storm
Sent to wake you from your dream
Show me your scorn
But you'll thank me in the end

"... time is a piece of wax falling on a termite that's choking on the splinters" - beck
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:01 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Hell_bound
Have you ever questioned the reality that you were taught to believe?
Yeps

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Have you ever seen how a tree grows from year to year, and when you cut it down did you take the time to count its rings?
Yeps

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Originally Posted by Hell_bound
Did you ever believe in something that others thought made you seem a little less then normal?
Yeps

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What is reality?
The world as only we can perceive it.

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What does it mean to be a human?
Humanity is to love and to hate, to experience delirious happiness and desperate loneliness. Good and bad(or evil if you prefer) are like two long-standing lovers, intrinsically bound to fight for a place in this world, they go hand in hand, we cant have one without the other, for every act of goodness it is counteracted with a act of badness(evilness). As a human we walk the knife edge that separates the two with a certain amount of blind faith, hoping that were making the right choices and taking the right path in life.

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And when does a human know when its collective self, that which is called society or humanity, is doing more harm then good?
The collective self has no idea until a solitary figure steps forward and points out the harm, eventually this is passed on to collective and as some will take head, most wont listen as "ignorance is bliss..."



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Originally Posted by Hell_bound
The subtleties of our environment blinds us to what the reality is.
Without questioning, one can never come to be and the truth of reality can never come within grasp.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates



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Is this the fate of humanity?
Thats the glory of fate, its out of our hands.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:08 PM   #3
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HAHA I see Zelda from the CD-I there \o/

Life is whatever we want it to be, you create you're own false world from nothing, just like most philosophical concepts that argue about nothing over nothing. You live in an illusion of an illusion mah boi
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Have Hell Bound even played regnum once ?

Does he have the rights to copy entire song Lyrics (probably copyrighted) here ?
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Have Hell Bound even played regnum once ?
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:37 AM   #8
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I actually love these types of discussions...such open-mindedness and yet so many possibilities. It's endless! Quite intriguing really, to think beyond the so-called "human limits of the mind."

"Have you ever questioned the reality that you were taught to believe?"

All the time. I find it always changing whether we are aware of it or not. Up to the point to where I find myself even thinking "Is this even considered reality?" Yet...to wonder if we can even go beyond this "reality" is something interesting...well I believe anything is possible when the mind perceives it.

"Have you ever seen how a tree grows from year to year, and when you cut it down did you take the time to count its rings?"

Yes and might I add that it's rather relaxing to count them and then think how it is to simply experience nature's changes without such "worries" and "concerns" our so called "reality" gives us.

"Did you ever believe in something that others thought made you seem a little less then normal?"

Yes. Mind you I believe that we all go through that one way or another.

"What is reality?"

There is no definitive answer to this entirely. Yet that doesn't mean we cannot try to come up with a reasonable "possibility" so to speak. Anyways, Skatz made a great comment on this. "The world as we can only perceive it." For that is all that can be done. Perceive and learn to come to our OWN understanding of it. So in short you could read this and get an "idea" if you want, but you'll be the one to come up with your own answer on that.

"What does it mean to be a human?"

To be a human...well as stated previously, there isn't a definitive answer for this either. There are only possibilities. But if I were to make a statement on what I believe it means to be human it would be this: To live, yet experience. To learn, yet perceive. To question, yet to live free in your mind. That is all I can pertain towards this. You must find and perceive your own answer on this my friend.

"And when does a human know when its collective self, that which is called society or humanity, is doing more harm then good?"

As we take a look at the outside world around our eyes, and minds, or as some call it society, we notice that individuals will set standards and a judgement on what is considered "good" and "bad." I would go on with this answer, however this mere question will surely lead to many more questions depending on how one answers it. Therefore I will put my answer or belief on this question on hold.

"Is this the fate of humanity?"

No one will ever know this. One can only make predictions on it. Whether you choose to believe it is another story. Our choices to believe, to perceive, the choices we make will affect us somehow. I'd like to say that we are somewhat partially responsible for our own actions. The decisions we make will affect us in the near future. That is normally how our life corresponds.

In the end, most of our answers come to our "choice to believe" or simply "choice" to begin with. Whether you choose to believe this, whether you choose not to listen to this, whether you choose to find a hidden meaning within these statements. Whether you choose to post to this response. The decisions you make, the steps you choose to take, will influence you somehow.

But why do we choose? Simply put, because we have the ability to do so.

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Well that's all I have to say for the most part. The rest is up to you. But here's another quote by me:

"The one who denies the beauty or concept behind some things, may not have the right to understand them..."
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Old 03-18-2009, 03:47 AM   #9
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alot of this is just carpe dium: seize the day. " it's better to die on your feet then to live on your knees" for example

when you cut down the tree, did you wonder how many more rings there could have been if you didn't cut it down? would have possibly been a better question.
3 quotes come in mind. "life is what you make of it" or something like that and "life's a joke. play along." which i don't really agree in but just came to mind. also: the purpose of life is to live.

the way i see it, all fate is: doom. Doomed to what is another question. the fate of a person is ultimately death, and the fate of mankind probably leads to something like that too.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:07 AM   #10
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Have you ever asked yourself if it were possible to know something others don't know?
The size and shape of the falling snow, or perhaps the countless dead that will be stacked in rows?
A macabre vision of reality that only reveals itself when you look beyond that which you are told.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tool: Schism

I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering. Fundamental differing.
Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes testing our communication

The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
We cannot see to reach an end crippling our communication.

I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame it doesn't mean I don't desire to
Point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication

The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.

There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting

I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing
Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication.

Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any
Sense of compassion
Between supposed lovers/brothers

Can you look past this pseudo-truth,
The message of hope, propagated by the blind and the hollow minds we call our elected officials?
Can you see what real truth is?
Can you feel that truth?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotersand: Electronic World Transmission

get me, get me, a little closer
let me see the phantom view
take me right into the center
of the nine eleven news

get me, get me, my voyeur fetish
keep me shackled all day through
electronic world transmission
everything I see is true

give me, give me, observation
let me have the on-site feel
give me, give me, the true sensation
for I need a touch of real

show me, show me, what is happening
in the world beyond my door
and in time i'll be forgetting
what i have been living for

help me, help me, i'm too frightened
to fulfill my hardest task
will i ever find the answers
to the things i dare not ask

Can you feel the desperation, the fear of a change to come?
Can you feel the masses becoming unnerved because they know it wasn't the change they were sold?
Can you feel the enemy preparing to make their stand?
And when they do, you know, bombs will race over the land.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche: The Quickening

This is temptation
These are the years we've left behind
Your revelation
This is the cruelty of our time
I can't escape it
Take back every word I've said
There's no belonging
The voices of the dead

And when the stars are falling
Projections on the screen
Another day is dawning
Come back to me
And when the night is calling
For everyone to see
The memory's still haunting
Come back to me

This is impatience
These are the hungry mouths to feed
No complications
This is abandon of our needs
I can't erase it
Take back all the tears we've shed
Useless behavior
A war inside my head

If the dead could talk...
They would tell you this truth...
To take your stand now before it's to late...
Will you choose truth or lies?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Clock Dva: Non

Last textural reports
A plan of locations
Cross points of agencies
A program of density
Of a force that cannot be determined
Science at this point must become alembic
Magnetic field disturbances
Have irradiated our equipment
We have lost all contact
We are alone
In the shadow of shadows
In the dream of dreams
In the sleep of sleep
I see it's form
We have no more time now
We are alone
Final entry report
I have removed all obstacles
That impedes it's progress
My duty is to serve the power
That holds me captive
There are no more choices
We have opened a new door
To a new horror that will finally destroy us
The time has come...
No where left to hide...
There will be no peace, when you choose lies.
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