To the Mods/Game Devs: Re: Increasing Server Pop

[Telwe]

With respect, out of all the issues the game has, Haven's server population is the most important and urgent.

I think its more important even than RNG update.

My suggestion at this stage is to dramatically lower the grind time. I would even suggest giving new players free lvl 55 or 50 via STEAM. Make it a new release thing only available for HAVEN server. Advertise on DAOC forums. Be creative. You guys owe it to us to try.


I understand your hesitation to take such a course of action because of:
a) abuse from multis
b) loss of revenue from scroll boosting.

re a). Yes we might see some multying swing.... but at this stage it is a bullet we might have to take. Call it a necessary evil. Maybe give syrtis/ignis some sort of additional boost that might sway some people to their side. Multis already exist anyways so whats the danger? I think people overestimate how many multis there are and underestimate the number of people loyal to their realms. I can think of many people in all three realms who I know wouldn't change because they have established clans/friends. Plus they would lose their gear and so on.

b) I think you guys would actually make money in the long run. If people get hooked on the combat, after a while they will try to make themselves stronger and look to their level and gear. After doing 1% of of lvl 55-56 without previous grind experience they'll want to shoot themselves, and this might convince them to buy boosters. Give them a free 7 day mount or something as well. Thats also stuff people have to buy. There is also the issue of current players withholding xim purchases because we are unsure on the future of the server (for example I still have a white tunic but am unwilling to spend money on boxes at this stage).

But seriously I can't stress how important it is to close the gap of time required between making a new character and experiencing wars. I think people would quit just walking from newb starting position to warzone. Heck I'd get the Game Helpers or whatever they're called to idle at character spawn points and try chatting up newbs, give them the basics they need and even teleport them where they need to go.

What do companies do to attract new customers? They give away free stuff and samples. This situation is no different. You can't expect a complete new player to drop $45 or whatever on a pack for a game they know nothing about (and that has poor reviews).

Please, consider radical action. Remember the higher the population the more people there are to buy xim. Also I thank you guys for the general activity in trying to improve things (the roadmap). Many games I've played have no updates, no support and no communication between players and developers.

Daith
(gankforce)

[time-to-die]

I think they should promote their game more.

[Sentan]

I think they should promote their game more.

Yeah. Another expansion like warmasters or champions. :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

[time-to-die]

Yeah. Another expansion like warmasters or champions. :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

Haha you know what i mean :P

[MDpro]

Haven is dying mostly because of multis, and everyone jumping on the Ra bandwagon. I don't understand it either, we finally merge with another server... and NOW everyone decides to give up on Haven. :facepalm3:

[time-to-die]

Haven is dying mostly because of multis, and everyone jumping on the Ra bandwagon. I don't understand it either, we finally merge with another server... and NOW everyone decides to give up on Haven. :facepalm3:

Please look down at your signature:wiggle14:

[Sentan]

Give me 10 dragon amulets so I will bring some players back. Everyone needs motivation. :thumb:

[MDpro]

Please look down at your signature:wiggle14:
Ra and Haven have nothing to do with each other, two different servers... So that's not multi-realming. I play in one realm in each server, and I barely play in Ra. Many players play in a different realm when they change servers. :wink:

Edit- Also, I started playing in Ra again occasionally just under a year ago, wayy before Haven players started flooding to Ra.


I think we all can agree with you on this though...
I think they should promote their game more.

[Iheartpancakes]

There's some amazing CoR videos on youtube. I'd update the media page with some of these. There's some really motivational ones out there that show how awesome the combat can be. The website itself looks like it was built with Frontpage back in the early nineties (No offence, but really.. it's shit compared to today's standards). I was expecting to see marquee text scrolling across the page, and animated gifs of cats. Please consider revamping it at some point.
The Realm Guard pack on Steam is amazingly great value. I'd market this more on the website, to show people they don't need to grind from 1-45 if they don't want to, and you get some good shit out of it, including permanent mount, and ximerin to purchase premium armour/weapons, boosts or customisations.

Yes, fixing the grinding situation would be beneficial too. I was grinding for 5 minutes today and logged off. Just can't hack it any more :(
Fortunately I'm level 51, so it's ok to war in order to break the monotony of killing mob after mob slowly with resists, but you don't really get that leisure early on.

Best,

[Ludwig Von Mises]

I think NGD should murg all the servers as one, or atleast RA with Haven. :]

Language is no excuse to not murg. People know what to do in this game. Language is no barrier. And if someone from another language needs help its not hard to find help because players from many languages would be in that same server to help. Further, most or a large number of people who play the game speak more then one language, whether it be dutch and english, english and spanish. You see?

Lets say this dud only speaks english and he wants to know what this spanish dud means, i can say hey i know because i speak spanish and english. Or a german who speaks only german wants to know what this spanish is saying. Someone who speaks german and english can ask someone who speaks english and spanish to help out. Because in the german server and in Ra and Haven there are people who speak more then one language. :]

[LoveleHaven]

I have played many games where are many servers and low population, and devs would just not wanna merge.
I have no idea what marketing secret lies behind this, but it's not good at all.

I came back to RO and played for 1 week, than I kinda gave up. You know why? There are so many more games that are just better. There are so many games where 1 click brings you right in the middle of the action, and you don't have to grind for ages, to get some action. That needs improvement.

[Iheartpancakes]

I think NGD should murg all the servers as one, or atleast RA with Haven. :]


Hell no. Worst idea 2k15

[MDpro]

Yeah, merging with Ra is not a good idea... And I'm sure Ra players wouldn't want anything to do with merging with Haven. If Ra merged with any server, you'd have to merge all of the servers together, and that would mean the game would need expanding (more land and more mobs as one example). Would also mean many people would have really bad lag, maybe unplayable for those that already have issues in Haven as it is. I remember trying Momo in Ra during the event, my ping reached 20,000 and I was unable to even move. That's what a typical fort war would be like for many of us if Ra and Haven merged. The game can't expand if half the people aren't even able to play it. Also I should point out that even with Ra's current population, it's not all that great. Sure the wars are a bit more interesting, but the high population has more negatives than you'd think.

Maybe merging with Valhalla might be ok, but as someone that doesn't have access to Valhalla... I don't really know what the Valhalla population is like.

[Ivramartono]

....

Years ago Ra used to have more players active than all current servers combined, and lag wasnt really an issue. Ra seems to relatively lose many more players than haven.

I am experiencing low fps on ra with the same pc i used for ages, probably cuz detailed and ugly ass graphics. ping is totally fine...

[Hollow-Ichigo]

I think NGD should murg all the servers as one, or atleast RA with Haven. :]

Its 'merge' you autistic faggot. And NGD already ruled out that haven wont be merged with ra.

OT: Its a good idea but I dont think NGD will see it through.

[Candyx]

One more reason to not merge; the game mechanics would be terrible at very large populations. If NGD merge all servers then they are limiting the maximum future population they can support with the current game. If NGD manages to turn around the numbers and get the populations rising again then multiple servers are needed.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

you autistic faggot.


Bann here NGD?

Anyways, its murg because thats how i like to say it. :]

You know like in-game i say ace instead of aca. hehe

[Candyx]

Bann here NGD?

Anyways, its murg because thats how i like to say it. :]

You know like in-game i say ace instead of aca. hehe

I'm not sure you know how language works.

[Iheartpancakes]

You know like in-game i say ace instead of aca. hehe

Wouldn't that be kind of confusing for your realm mates if you start yelling out the suits of cards when there's an enemy nearby?

[Candyx]

Wouldn't that be kind of confusing for your realm mates if you start yelling out the suits of cards when there's an enemy nearby?

Has lead to all of people raging at him. Also lead to him not getting any help when he says 'ace'.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Wouldn't that be kind of confusing for your realm mates if you start yelling out the suits of cards when there's an enemy nearby?

They understand exactly what i mean when i say ace. And yes they do come help. Of course Candy on the other hand is just a troll. This is why i don't like to reply to his nonsense.

Anyways, why are you replying to this when this has obviously nothing to do with the thread?

Time to move on ya? Focus on the thread not on bashing people because they say murg instead of merge intentionally and ace instead of ace intentionally.

[Iheartpancakes]

Time to move on ya? Focus on the thread not on bashing people because they say murg instead of merge intentionally and ace instead of ace intentionally.

I wasn't bashing. Just asking if they get confused when you say 'ace' instead of 'aca'. I know I would be.

[Iheartpancakes]

Also, you're a piece of shit

[Ludwig Von Mises]

I wasn't bashing. Just asking if they get confused when you say 'ace' instead of 'aca'. I know I would be.

Theres actually no reason you would be confused if in the champions of regnum game someone says ace when they see an enemy. xD

But again some people say what you just said for the sole purpose of putting people down and making fun of them. :P

[Iheartpancakes]

Theres actually no reason you would be confused if in the champions of regnum game someone says ace when they see an enemy. xD

But again some people say what you just said for the sole purpose of putting people down and making fun of them. :P

Are you serious? If we were out hunting, and I yelled out "POTATOES!", would you know what I'm talking about? Probably not.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Are you serious? If we were out hunting, and I yelled out "POTATOES!", would you know what I'm talking about? Probably not.

I think in RA potatoes might mean ignis. Tomates might mean ignis in RA as well, of course i just say ignis. :D

Its common sense. In this game many players when they see an enemy they say aca or ace like me. You see how little difference that word has? If you don't, your intentionally, unnecessarily, making problems for yourself. o.O

I will stress again the importance of staying on topic. Here> To the Mods/Game Devs: Re: Increasing Server Pop

[Raindance]

Anyways, its murg because thats how i like to say it. :]

You know like in-game i say ace instead of aca. hehe

Yes, just like sylaedgon says 'black' instead of 'back'.

Yes, I am comparing you to the most retarded player since Dark Barbarian.

[Hayir]

Yes, just like sylaedgon says 'black' instead of 'back'.

Yes, I am comparing you to the most retarded player since Dark Barbarian.

Sylaedgon is funny at least.

[Telwe]

Guys can we cut the childish stuff and stay on topic.


I see a lot if ppl mention merge but I think that should be last resort.

Btw, like someone above said... 1 click in some games gets you right to the fighting. My suggestions are already in op. Auto 55, horse and tele to cs or trainer. Maybe ppl will stay. Maybe the graphics will turn them off. If they stay they will xim the 55-60 grind. If they don't then they wouldn't have stayed without the free stuff anyways. Nothing to lose everything to gain.

Does Adrian read these posts you think?

[Slartibartfast]

Has lead to all of people raging at him. Also lead to him not getting any help when he says 'ace'.

No wonder Syris is such a mess lately.

[Iheartpancakes]

I see a lot if ppl mention merge but I think that should be last resort.


It should never even be an option.


Btw, like someone above said... 1 click in some games gets you right to the fighting. My suggestions are already in op. Auto 55, horse and tele to cs or trainer.


The realm guard pack on steam gives you pretty much all that, but it's 45, except the tele to cs (would be nice if they added that actually). I already mentioned all the awesome crap you get out of it, including 40k xim, war steed, plat box, engrave socket.
It's, by far, the best way to start a new character on regnum. Just needs more marketing. As far as value goes, it's a great price. And no, I'm not getting any commission from this. It really is good value.
The only problem with it is, I know a lot of people have trouble using it, or they think they must use steam in order to benefit from it. This isn't true.


Does Adrian read these posts you think?


Most likely, yes. But he doesn't always reply.

[Candyx]

Also, you're a piece of shit

No need to actually quote the above, just thought it warranted some form of redundancy.

One way to increase server pop AND keep the grind (NGD sales via scrolls) is to forget levels. All characters are automatically lvl 60 hp and mana, have access to all disciplines (can take any tree to lvl 19). The 'levelling' process can then represent the unlocking of power points. Nothing more. That means a new player can (for example) make a marks, bring it to war and do some normals, maybe a winter stroke but will quickly thirst for more power points -> grind!

Just an idea NGD might want to have a go at implementing. Of course this means all mobs would have to be appropriately readdressed, but it's maybe workable. This way a new player can instantly join the action!

Also, Ludwig is mostly unintelligible in syrtis chat anyway - his ludwig-isms lead to Syrtis casting confuse self (5) more frequently that we should.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

I really think murging would be a great idea for the game, more aces to kill you know? :]

In Haven there are already people who speak different languages so i don't see the issue with murging servers.

Murging best word ever, ace best op word indeed. :]

[Anunnaki]

The purpose of the actual roadmap is only distracting people from the real problem, and make some players like ... happy this year.So they can add new premium items and make more profit from them.
They see only short term. BUT what next ? the game is just dying and all servers losing players more and more and NGD watching (it is not only haven, look at Ra now and how it was...valhalla...).make me laugh people that wasting their money to start in RA thinking they are going to a better place.
Ratter that wasting time on that shity roadmap, they can work only in :

Getting new players(same players playing for years...).
Fix bugs.
Make leveling more easy.
Bring TDM back.

[Sentan]

From the roadmap 2015:
Combat formulas
...
Estimated date: Mid April. In progress.

:thumb:


The merge of these two servers would be a tragedy.

[halvdan]

I think the right steps are:

1. Reworking xp curve/grinding system.
2. Making PvE fun. Interesting quests. Not this "Kill 20 fuckubeetles and run back here".
3. Promotion. Players out there need to know there is RO.

Everything else, RNG, class balance, TDM, jewels, is just secondary thing. New players don't quit because there are resists or jewels. They quit when they get mad of 'Kill 600 XXX'. Nothing to blame them for, PvE and grind in this game is the most horrible thing.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

I think the right steps are:

PvE and grind in this game is the most horrible thing.

i agree 100% on this. Its crap.

[Ivramartono]

Hmmm where have i seen this before?


This game is simply not good, thats all. end of the story -.-

[Mormeril]

Glad to see that while I've invested my spare time to another MMORPG, nothing have changed here and yet another 'this game is dying' thread arises. So let me tell you a story about why there is no new players and older players are leaving too:

If I were a casual player, I'd have stopped playing when I found out that mounts can be bought only with Xim. Since obviously you do need a mount in game like this that does not offer free fast travelling, I was disappointed about that but decided to give this a try anyway. This was first 'this game sucks' moment, at level ~10. Later I also noticed that premium content is not shared with characters... Seriously?

I stayed cause I was recruited in a new clan immediately once I got out from beginner zone, felt like I was in active game. Made boring quests and finally got that '5 players from enemy realm' quest and of course went to WZ at 30, only to find out that I cannot do anything but die and run away. This was second 'this game sucks', but I was too curious about how RvR is when level 50 is reached.

Finally hit 50, had some knowledge what to do in WZ and I thought I was ready. Wrong. Sadly, nowhere near to be ready. What can level 50 hunter do in WZ, other than grind and get ganked? Not much, since either I got killed by Datten or I was unable found enemies that I could actually fight with. This was third 'this game sucks' moment and I was pretty fed up already since I had invested so many hours just to get killed.

Well, glad that I had some nice players around me, who motivated me to become WM and finally hit 60. Yay. All done, now I can gank like a boss and fight with anybody? Still nope. Turns out, I don't have those epic jewelries and other stuff that all cool players are running with. And even if I had, where is the fun when there is no one to fight with as Haven is nearly empty. So here I am, fourth time saying 'this game sucks' and asking myself why did I not see the pattern before? Why I threw my money for developers who have not fixed the most obvious problems?

Regardless of that, I wanted to take a look if grass is really greener on the other side of fence and grinded my RA hunter to 55 relatively quickly. Busy server, much action, but many player I know are not there and all my stuff is in Haven...

That is the short story of mine. I wanted epic battles, exciting hunting and loads of fun, but those were fairly rare moments. And if I had given up at first let down, I'd have nothing positive to say about this game. It'd be 0/5 stars.

So, how to increase population? New players will stay when these are achieved:

Mount must be either rentable OR permanent with gold*
Premium content must be shared with all characters in account
Premium content must be tradeable
WZ must be place where lowbies can join too*
Lowbies at WZ must be able to fight against level 60 WM's with slight chance of winning in fair PvP situation*
Quests must be interesting
Realm tasks must be selectable by type (loot, kills, letter)
Leveling must be much more faster, for example: 1 to 50 in 2 weeks with quests only
Jewelry must be accessible for everybody AND they must not be overpowered*
Characters must be synced between servers OR servers must be merged
Player must be able to create character in all realms*
Auction houses must be combined so that you can do business with players from other realms too*


*It works very well in another MMORPG that has RvR(vR), has no subscription fees and is very popular, so don't cry about this point. Or cry if you will, but it leads to nowhere.

And before any of these few points that I was able to type out at the moment, all bugs must be fixed! I cannot believe it that there are bugs which have existed (according to some threads around this forum and game chat) for more than few months. This is kind of a 'red alert' for me, it shows that either project is just a cash cow or there is no developers who know what they are doing and instead of fixing bugs they create more content that may increase the amount of bugs (and of course more money if it is premium). Bugs happen, I know that, but to let them hang around for longer than week or two is unacceptable and unprofessional.

That being said, I see no reason to support developers who are not using the money they receive for making their product better. There is the root of this problem why players (new or old) leave: developers.

It would be nice to see that I am wrong with my statement about developers, but I am not sure will I be here to admit it, if it ever even happens that is.


That's all I have to say. Take care.

[Iheartpancakes]

The combat in this game is what gets people hooked, let's be honest, it's some of the most addictive out there.
Regnum should have NO PvE. Or, it should be optional for loot and extra experience when war is slow. There should be a training area where you can kill other players for the first few levels, then you're able to join the wz straight away. Obviously this would mean a major overhaul which won't happen, so please ignore this. We can dream.

[schachteana]

murg servers plz

[MedicAlert]

The combat in this game is what gets people hooked, let's be honest, it's some of the most addictive out there.
Regnum should have NO PvE. Or, it should be optional for loot and extra experience when war is slow. There should be a training area where you can kill other players for the first few levels, then you're able to join the wz straight away. Obviously this would mean a major overhaul which won't happen, so please ignore this. We can dream.

This is the one of the best suggestion I've read so far in this entire fucking forum.

[Ava De Kedavra]

There should be a training area where you can kill other players for the first few levels

There is already a low level wz, you can join and try it out (rather could) if there was enough low level (or any at all) to try it out with. A quest is connected to it in the first town. Just for the record ^^

[Raindance]

Glad to see that while I've invested my spare time to another MMORPG, nothing have changed here and yet another 'this game is dying' thread arises. So let me tell you a story about why there is no new players and older players are leaving too:

If I were a casual player, I'd have stopped playing when I found out that mounts can be bought only with Xim. Since obviously you do need a mount in game like this that does not offer free fast travelling, I was disappointed about that but decided to give this a try anyway. This was first 'this game sucks' moment, at level ~10. Later I also noticed that premium content is not shared with characters... Seriously?

I stayed cause I was recruited in a new clan immediately once I got out from beginner zone, felt like I was in active game. Made boring quests and finally got that '5 players from enemy realm' quest and of course went to WZ at 30, only to find out that I cannot do anything but die and run away. This was second 'this game sucks', but I was too curious about how RvR is when level 50 is reached.

Finally hit 50, had some knowledge what to do in WZ and I thought I was ready. Wrong. Sadly, nowhere near to be ready. What can level 50 hunter do in WZ, other than grind and get ganked? Not much, since either I got killed by Datten or I was unable found enemies that I could actually fight with. This was third 'this game sucks' moment and I was pretty fed up already since I had invested so many hours just to get killed.

Well, glad that I had some nice players around me, who motivated me to become WM and finally hit 60. Yay. All done, now I can gank like a boss and fight with anybody? Still nope. Turns out, I don't have those epic jewelries and other stuff that all cool players are running with. And even if I had, where is the fun when there is no one to fight with as Haven is nearly empty. So here I am, fourth time saying 'this game sucks' and asking myself why did I not see the pattern before? Why I threw my money for developers who have not fixed the most obvious problems?

Regardless of that, I wanted to take a look if grass is really greener on the other side of fence and grinded my RA hunter to 55 relatively quickly. Busy server, much action, but many player I know are not there and all my stuff is in Haven...

That is the short story of mine. I wanted epic battles, exciting hunting and loads of fun, but those were fairly rare moments. And if I had given up at first let down, I'd have nothing positive to say about this game. It'd be 0/5 stars.

So, how to increase population? New players will stay when these are achieved:

Mount must be either rentable OR permanent with gold*
Premium content must be shared with all characters in account
Premium content must be tradeable
WZ must be place where lowbies can join too*
Lowbies at WZ must be able to fight against level 60 WM's with slight chance of winning in fair PvP situation*
Quests must be interesting
Realm tasks must be selectable by type (loot, kills, letter)
Leveling must be much more faster, for example: 1 to 50 in 2 weeks with quests only
Jewelry must be accessible for everybody AND they must not be overpowered*
Characters must be synced between servers OR servers must be merged
Player must be able to create character in all realms*
Auction houses must be combined so that you can do business with players from other realms too*


*It works very well in another MMORPG that has RvR(vR), has no subscription fees and is very popular, so don't cry about this point. Or cry if you will, but it leads to nowhere.

And before any of these few points that I was able to type out at the moment, all bugs must be fixed! I cannot believe it that there are bugs which have existed (according to some threads around this forum and game chat) for more than few months. This is kind of a 'red alert' for me, it shows that either project is just a cash cow or there is no developers who know what they are doing and instead of fixing bugs they create more content that may increase the amount of bugs (and of course more money if it is premium). Bugs happen, I know that, but to let them hang around for longer than week or two is unacceptable and unprofessional.

That being said, I see no reason to support developers who are not using the money they receive for making their product better. There is the root of this problem why players (new or old) leave: developers.

It would be nice to see that I am wrong with my statement about developers, but I am not sure will I be here to admit it, if it ever even happens that is.


That's all I have to say. Take care.

This is just the tip of the iceberg because there have been many other similar posts, and there is definitely room for more constructive criticism, but +1.

Someone needs to nail posts like these to Adrian's refrigerator because we don't want big updates concerning big things. We want big updates concerning the smallest aspects of the game like the above mentioned (which are just a small example of what needs to be done).

[Iheartpancakes]

Someone needs to nail posts like these to Adrian's refrigerator

Then run like hell before he beats the shit out of you for breaking and entering.

[Franmenssana]

You all wellcome in the RA server :hat: xD

[Iheartpancakes]

You all wellcome in the RA server :hat: xD

That's the problem. Too many people have already moved there :P

[Candyx]

Why is RA even available in countries that don't have Spanish as a primary language. I don't seen Valhalla since I'm not in Germany, so why is RA on my server list? It would at least stop the majority of people who switch from switching.

[Vyrann]

Why is RA even available in countries that don't have Spanish as a primary language. I don't seen Valhalla since I'm not in Germany, so why is RA on my server list? It would at least stop the majority of people who switch from switching.

Because RA is and always has been an international server from the very start. Why shouldn't I be allowed to play RA when haven is dead during my timezone?

[MedicAlert]

That's the problem. Too many people have already moved there :P

That's not even the main problem. Many people (including myself) have top notch gear and characters already well setteled in haven. Moving to RA would not be the option because of the current uber-boring grind curve and not having your best equipment in RA.
Since, NGD already mentioned that it would be impossible to transfer items service vice, what i suggest it to allow RA and even valhalla players to log in to haven just like amun.
Alsius has the dominant population in haven, syrtis in RA and ignis in valhalla.
You can put the German and Spanish chat tabs for those language speakers that acts as a realm and commerce tab. General and clan tags remain the same.
Best,

[Dumberest]

Because RA is and always has been an international server from the very start. Why shouldn't I be allowed to play RA when haven is dead during my timezone?

i thought it was because RA is mainly spanish players and NGD are an argentinian company seeking to protect thier main cash cow.without RA server i very much doubt we would have haven or any other server for that matter.

[crownapollo]

i thought it was because RA is mainly spanish players and NGD are an argentinian company seeking to protect thier main cash cow.without RA server i very much doubt we would have haven or any other server for that matter.

Players from other servers play there anyway, it's open on the login screen. Why don't they just let you use your characters on either server from the client loader? Then maybe Haven would be more populated by Ra players and grinders some of the time, and both servers might see more active players.

[Iheartpancakes]

Players from other servers play there anyway, it's open on the login screen. Why don't they just let you use your characters on either server from the client loader? Then maybe Haven would be more populated by Ra players and grinders some of the time, and both servers might see more active players.

Because if you play on Haven then want to move to RA you spend more money. Krusty Krab approves.

[crownapollo]

Because if you play on Haven then want to move to RA you spend more money. Krusty Krab approves.

I'm afraid this is what it's become...milking the last players for what they're worth before the game ends. Looking at the new change logs, and the events from the last year that seems apparent. I'm wondering if they're trying at this point.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Also, you're a piece of shit

Maybe NGD forget to forum bann this childish individual? Lets hope your not being biased and letting one customer act out towards your other customers in a childish and unacceptable way, and favoring one customer over another. These are not the standards of a professional business.

Let me give you an advice NGD: If you want to maintain high standards of conduct on your forum these post need to be deleted and those individuals temporarily or permanently banned from your forum. Actions have consequences or else you will never teach them good manners.

And if you'v given him a warning bann how many warning banns do you need? His clearly done this over and over again without correction?

If you delete my post this proves to me and every other user here, your biases, double standards, and a low standard of contact. And i'll just make this post into a thread.

Keep your standards high NGD.

[Iheartpancakes]

Blah, blah, blah, I'm a little teapot

Please get back on topic, Ludwig.

Also, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Paperback-Oxford-English-Dictionary-Dictionaries/dp/0199640947/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429782688&sr=8-1

Best,

[halvdan]

Meybu NGD forgut to forum benn this childish individuel? Luts hopu your not buing biesud end lutting onu customur ect out towerds your othur customurs in e childish end uneccupteblu wey, end fevoring onu customur ovur enothur. Thusu eru not thu stenderds of e profussionel businuss.

Lut mu givu you en edvicu NGD: If you went to meintein high stenderds of conduct on your forum thusu post nuud to bu dulutud end thosu individuels tumporerily or purmenuntly bennud from your forum. ections hevu consuquuncus or ulsu you will nuvur tuech thum good mennurs.

end if you'v givun him e werning benn how meny werning benns do you nuud? His cluerly donu this ovur end ovur egein without corruction?

If you dulutu my post this provus to mu end uvury othur usur huru, your biesus, doublu stenderds, end e low stenderd of contect. end i'll just meku this post into e thrued.

Kuup your stenderds high NGD.

fixud it for you :D
Bust,

[Iheartpancakes]

fixud it for you :D
Bust,

Laughed out loud in real lifes, 10/10

[Humulus]

So this thread heavily derailed already but I'll try to get it back on track because even though this subject attracts a lot of trolling, it is very important.

At first, Haven is not dying. I can't deny there are problems, but really Haven has had worse. The trends actually show a slight increase in warzone activity. However it seems to be coming from one realm in particular while the other realms are struggeling, when you see it in-game. This is not new, balance is an continuous issue which is also a bit part of the game. If everything was perfectly balanced it would be boring as well. And it might give some hope that balance tend to switch every now and then, especially around an update which happens to be coming soon.

Of course there is some multirealming but I don't think this issue can be blamed entirely on that. It's only natural that people will log in more when their realm is doing good. And people tend to give up faster when they're losing. But also think of the weather, it's getting summer in Europe and America, where many Haven players come from. Also the end of the schoolyear is coming up and people are having their finals. This can all contribute to lower server population. It is only natural.

Now, my words certainly won't make it any better but I happened to be a little closer to NGD than most of the people who play this game. And really, they're working their ass off to improve this game but fact is that they don't have the largest developement team in the world, and of course the server problems and other unexpected issues don't really help. So change takes time, but it is coming, check out the roadmap. The RNG update is necessary, we all basically agree on that. But next to that there is a lot more. Character progression, enhanced and faster grinding of characters should keep more new players in the game. Then, enhanced end gameplay and retention to keep it worth it, and fun to play the game.

I really think the solution is there, it just needs time to be realized. Time, I can imagine, they rather use on developement than replying to troll threads. When that is done, they can start thinking of e.g. promoting the game. No need to merge (or murg for that matter). As I think that would only do more harm than good for the english community.

Now I've seen some good suggestions, many of which will be adressed as per the roadmap. But for example the mounts issue is also important. Better acces to mounts or at least temp. mounts till you reach level 50. Those are good ideas and could be considered for the progression update for example. Let us know, because you can help.

Now you can get back to trolling, or helping out. But just know that NGD isn't doing nothing.

[Iheartpancakes]

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I Agree, Haven is definitely not dying. While I don't see as many fort fights, there has been a lot of pn wars, which is always fun. Usually between Ignis and Alsius, though. Syrtis being the minor inconvenience that plays from the side from time to time. I don't fear too much for Haven's future as long as it keeps up. What was detailed in the roadmap for this year is also a good step to help keep interest, for sure, especially character progression, and if you can look into more temp mounts until 50, that would be good too.
It's just sad to see better rewards given out on RA compared to Haven (you know what I'm talking about), and more management presence in the Spanish forums compared to the English ones. This is my main gripe, and always has been.

[Sentan]

Better acces to mounts or at least temp. mounts till you reach level 50.

The game should not force the player to purchase a mount for real money. Don't be so stingy. You cannot play this game without a mount. It only shows that for NGD new players aren't important. I don't know any MMORPG where I was forced to spend rl money on horse. The old option where I was able to buy a horse for gold was really nice. Leveling issue should be resolved before the introduction of WM expansion. Better late than never but never late is better :P

[Iheartpancakes]

The game should not force the player to purchase a mount for real money.

Another MMO I play gave the player a choice of 3 mounts after a level 11 quest or something. It was a really nice surprise, and made me feel like the game was rewarding me just for playing, not just giving me crappy common items. It's certainly a morale boost of some sorts.

[Ava De Kedavra]

Item mall is f*cked up as it is.

It shouldn' t be full of mounts at all, it should be full of other stuff like costums, weapon skins and such. Leveling up is f*cked up the same way 'cause of scrolls.

They should rework their item mall content completely.

[Iheartpancakes]

Item mall is f*cked up as it is.

It shouldn' t be full of mounts at all

Nah, I think it's OK to have premium, vanity mounts in there. But basic horses should be given via questing.

[Ava De Kedavra]

Nah, I think it's OK to have premium, vanity mounts in there. But basic horses should be given via questing.

My point was that they built up their main income source badly, filling up the item mall with 3456788 buy-able mounts and all kind of scrolls :p.

Or they f*cked up the leveling part of the game completely, one of these^^
xD

[Ludwig Von Mises]

I don't think mounts should be free i mean NGD has to make some profit which is fine. But i think they could make huge profits by making the auction house able to sell xim that has been bought by other players. For example players in many cases have xim left over which they don't need like 2k xim, 1k xim, 500 xim, 200 xim, and 50 xim. This right here could be sold to other players that can't afford a mount for mags, gold, and gear. Or if NGD thinks its a good idea champion coins and warmaster coins.

I think this has a huge profit generating potential while at the same time making mounts hugely more attainable for those who can't or just don't want to buy mounts.

Just to note it takes money to keep things going in this game so its not right that everything should be free. But there are just so many more creative ways to make money and allowing those who can't or don't want to pay the ability to attain all that is needed to play the game.

To add: Some players who are more wealthy my want to buy huge amounts of xim for the sole purpose of selling to other players (which is very good for NGD) for mags, gold, and gear. And if NGD thinks adding champion coins and warmaster coins as tradable for xim, these might have very good consequences.

[Frosk]

My suggestion at this stage is to dramatically lower the grind time.


This is what the character progression stage of the roadmap will be all about. We're almost done with RNG, and we can't wait to start working on that.



I think its more important even than RNG update.

Yes and no.

In one hand, yes, it's more important for users to quickly reach a level high enough to involve themselves in combat.
However, on the other hand, if RNG were as it is and those "new" players start to realize it, they'll either quit or not recommend the game at all to their friends.
Plus, they'd get to read "old" users complaining about it and basically lowering their morale.

Once RNG's worked on, combat should no longer be a completely random and frustrating experience. This will help both "old" AND new players, and may attract even more people, including those who left due to the crappy rng system.

Since, from what I can see, this thread got a bit (too much) derailed and is starting to heavily depend on speculations, I'll close it, but rest assured we're aware of the issue and we're getting our hands on it very soon.

Best,