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korag082007
09-30-2015, 08:39 AM
i feel like war system should be changed, to controll population, something like only 20 ppl raid can participate in war that too if opposite realm has the same amount too, this way ppl will be forced to join other realm, in case 1 is under populated, cheap idea, but seems to be fair, 100s of ppl creating chars only on 1 winning realm seems to be unfair :imstupid::imstupid:

Dumberest
09-30-2015, 01:04 PM
Ignis RA were invading today and haven was a ghost town,not 20 people online on the whole server.

i think we have the population but maybe a lot of moved to RA cuz its boring as heck on haven for a large part of the day.it would be very interesting to see who plays on RA and haven and where they spend most of thier time.

limiting the number of players as you suggest is a bad idea.we just need more people and to be able to retain those people so there is fun.getting the RA players back would be a great start,i suspect many many people are playing there and not haven.

200% 24 hour exp boost for ignis everyday
100% for syrtis
none for alsius.

when the invasion count starts to even out then change it.

pieceofmeat
09-30-2015, 01:50 PM
The main problem is that this game lack features, its just a messed up RvRvR, then nothing. If was good game there would plenty of things to do, cater to a lot of different playstyles and pvp activites.

Im no fan of instances, especially not in game/server that is 98% empty most of the time and have terrible class balance making these fights very predictable.

Confrontation should basically be granted where ever you go, because there should be is something interesting or worthwhile to do or acquire in nearly every area of the map.
Yes, likely population would still suck from time to time, but it wouldnt matter as much and bore people to death.

Kimahri_Ronso
09-30-2015, 02:35 PM
If you want realm balance ( same goes for class balance in fact )you need to make drastic moves, small steps, one by one, doesn't seem to work IMHO.

Disable realms to start at if one realm has too much users, let new users only join the other two realms. Population needs to be controlled somehow and I don't think there would be any other way to do so, but correct me if I'm wrong :).
No idea what tools NGD has, so just guessing...

PS: Are there any new users? xD

mind-trick
09-30-2015, 02:51 PM
you want to force players to choose which realm? not gonna work, wont happen

WhateverUSMC
09-30-2015, 06:00 PM
i think we have the population but maybe a lot of moved to RA cuz its boring as heck on haven for a large part of the day.it would be very interesting to see who plays on RA and haven and where they spend most of thier time.

I created a Ra character ages ago, back when we had a decent number on but, at the time, I found the language barrier to be insurmountable.

Fast forward to about a month and a half ago; I found myself not wanting to log on anymore, not due to boredom, but because we were constantly getting hopelessly overwhelmed.

I do not mind a tough battle, I really don't. However, when the other side(s) have painted our map blue/green, and are literally dancing at our CS.......meh.

So, I began spending time on Ra, language issues be damned. I discovered that a good number of players there speak better English then I do. Their battles do tend to be a bit zerg-on-zerg. However, from an Ignis point of view; better then the zerg-on-2 we have on Haven. So, from time to time, I log on to Ra. I've made some new friends there, and re-met some old ones that migrated shortly after the Great Big Blue Cloud descended upon us.

It is, in all honesty, not even the same game on Ra. Not even close. I really do believe we need to merge with them, and until we do, things on Haven will continue like they are.

Telwe
09-30-2015, 09:22 PM
Yeah things are pretty bad on haven right now.

MDpro
09-30-2015, 11:12 PM
200% 24 hour exp boost for ignis everyday
100% for syrtis
none for alsius.

when the invasion count starts to even out then change it.
Why should Syrtis get any boost? The invasion count in the last month between Alsius and Syrtis (and wish count) are pretty even. http://www.regnumsentinel.com/haven/statistics/

Syrtis made 10 wishes in the last month, that's more than Ignis has made since maybe late October/early November of last year. Ignis is DEAD, therefor it is the only realm that should get any boost.

Telwe
09-30-2015, 11:42 PM
Should also multiply war rewards for the outnumbered realms, like war confidence. give ppl an incentive to be outnumbered. right now there is no reason to take a beating...no glory to be won fighting against the odds!

Dumberest
10-01-2015, 12:47 PM
Why should Syrtis get any boost? .

the answer is a very simple one.....because i play for syrtis hahahaha

jk...stats can be misleading at times,your example is one of them.take out the months syrtis had wishes and they are in the same boat as ignis except they have a solid core of european based players logging in for 6 hours of the day.

Thallium
10-01-2015, 04:16 PM
Should also multiply war rewards for the outnumbered realms, like war confidence. give ppl an incentive to be outnumbered. right now there is no reason to take a beating...no glory to be won fighting against the odds!

It doesn't matter exactly how they do it, but NGD can easily solve this huge problem by making it fun and rewarding to fight an overwhelming force. 90% if the time, fights are badly unbalanced and (only marginally) fun for one side. The game loses players from the weaker side and the problem gets worse. Make it fun to be the underdog and realm balance will fix itself.

The basic idea:

1. Change war confidence to test population every 15 minutes instead of once per week or whatever it is now.
2. Change war confidence to add something fun besides just a slight boost -- something proportional and useful for fighting zergs.

some ideas for #2:
a bonus area spell
a pet dragon
a huge health and damage bonus
temporary legendary equipment
all of the above and let each player choose

If done correctly, this should have no effect when populations are balanced.

Of course, this wouldn't balance things perfectly and sometimes too much advantage would go to the weaker realm, but this would be so much better than the current hopeless situation.

Elva Hunter
10-01-2015, 06:06 PM
The main problem is that this game lack features, its just a messed up RvRvR, then nothing. If was good game there would plenty of things to do, cater to a lot of different playstyles and pvp activites.

Im no fan of instances, especially not in game/server that is 98% empty most of the time and have terrible class balance making these fights very predictable.

Confrontation should basically be granted where ever you go, because there should be is something interesting or worthwhile to do or acquire in nearly every area of the map.
Yes, likely population would still suck from time to time, but it wouldnt matter as much and bore people to death.


true, and this is the reason of why i made this sugestion sometime ago https://www.championsofregnum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106027

there have many possibilities in the game. all that need is the devs open the mind to put in pratice

:syrtis:

Telwe
10-01-2015, 10:19 PM
I'm going to make a ra character. Today was so frustrating as a player. It was my day off and it went from... morning of zerging where we had 50 ppl and the other realms had 5 each, to a complete zerg the other way.

Vadhir
10-02-2015, 10:11 AM
Players have found out how to deal with this problem :v When Alsius is more than Ignis or Syrtis (or when they are even in number), there is alwas... ALWAS an alliance between Ignis and Syrtis... we call it GREEDS :V However, when Alsius is less than Ignis or Syrtis, no one ally with us xD In fact, both realms try to get into Alsius r.r Iīm not complaining, it somehow makes me feel "better" not to let two realms take out our gems, even when they are like 20-30, and we only 10-15 :v It shouldnīt be like this, of course. No alliance should exists in a RvsR, but... since NGD doesnīt make that much to fix the problems, players do what they believe is covenient.

:v

MDpro
10-02-2015, 11:47 AM
the answer is a very simple one.....because i play for syrtis hahahaha

jk...stats can be misleading at times,your example is one of them.take out the months syrtis had wishes and they are in the same boat as ignis except they have a solid core of european based players logging in for 6 hours of the day.
My example said exactly why Syrtis are NOT in the same boat as Ignis... 10 wishes in one month by Syrtis, maybe how many Ignis has made in the last 10 or 11 months all together. ._.

If I had to chose for Ignis to have 10 wishes in the next month, or have some crappy 100% daily exp boost... Which one do you think I would take? :razz: Dragon wishes do more for a realm in general than just the small stats they raise on the characters that are involved.

korag082007
10-03-2015, 09:53 AM
something has to be done, for population, half of the players, r more excited to play 3 way fights at 1 fort for contineous 4-5 hours, specially in ignis......

halvdan
10-03-2015, 10:32 AM
My example said exactly why Syrtis are NOT in the same boat as Ignis... 10 wishes in one month by Syrtis, maybe how many Ignis has made in the last 10 or 11 months all together. ._.


What kind of issue you have with Syrtis by the way? Seeing your posts last year you clearly see Alsius "better in some way" than Syrtis.

And why do you count wishes in such small scope like one month? Especially, if Alsius wished over 150 wishes over less than year...and you're getting restless because Syrtis wished 10 wishes in one month and there is no sign it will continue like that. Get real.

Besides, I think realm bonus shouldn't be granted according to dragon wishes. This game needs players, not only Ignis or Syrtis, all realms on Haven need more players. But that's for longer discussion.

Kimahri_Ronso
10-03-2015, 10:58 AM
However, when Alsius is less than Ignis or Syrtis, no one ally with us

You know it's not true.

There are three realms for a reason, when one has too much, the other two teams up with each other.
I remember when Syrtis had the most, Alsius and Ignis made an alliance to try to take the glove on against them!

Multis "try" to do the job as well to balance out the population, but you know, I'm waiting for NGD to do drastic moves at last, something that makes realm numbers nearly equal, which would make the game ( especially small servers )more enjoy-able :).

Vadhir
10-03-2015, 01:30 PM
You know it's not true.

Oh, it IS true. Iīm talking about the current situation. I know in the past there had beed alliance between Ignis-Alsius (can't remember if Alsius-Syrtis) but as I mentioned, currently no one wants Alsius xD Even multies come to Alsius chat to talk about how the realm in which they play now is better than Alsius (yes Tania, I'm talking about you :v )