Ignis/Alsius alliance at Samal

[Mikan]

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[Boger]

Why a short term "agreement" you call an alliance alrdy?
Sometimes the situation makes you brother up with your enemy to beat the stronger enemy.
Both Ignis and alsius gained on that one...
Dont get some kind of paranoia :P

[Pizdzius]

I love Val's shouting in the general tab. Oh I missed those. :biggrin:

[daflear]

Oh, im Syrtis in i have to start to whine about this right? Hmmmm... No.. ;-)

[coca3010]

6943
Hehe, alsius helped us after campeando be in the save of samal xD

[daflear]

Cant you remember the commotion when syrtis and ignis allianced at pinos? Search in spanish forum for L'allianca del pinos or similar...

[misaccc]

6943
Hehe, alsius helped us after campeando be in the save of samal xD

i love this pic!punisher&midgets:clapclap:

[NeZZeR-N]

What is wrong with a short agreement ?
As long it's not permentent it's good.

[ByteMe]

I personally find it humorous when the other realms unite to take one of our forts. It forces us to pull together and communicate to be effective. Yesterday (or maybe the day before) BOGER and a few other ignis were at Trelle with support from green. The best part was a much smaller Alsius force retook the fort by running into the middle of them and watching them area each other to death.

[LuthienNenharma]

Yesterday (or maybe the day before) BOGER and a few other ignis were at Trelle with support from green. The best part was a much smaller Alsius force retook the fort by running into the middle of them and watching them area each other to death.
Yes, our hunt was nicer than the fortwar :o
It was very nice, so many knock downs.

I think that alliances are interesting.
You can see that ppl from different realms are able to play together in a friendly way with much fun. Some parties and fortwars become more interesting for every realm.

So do not be angry about alliances, they are just for a few hours everytime.

[misaccc]

Yes, our hunt was nicer than the fortwar :o
It was very nice, so many knock downs on me.oh i was on the ground all the time

heh:clapclap:

[LuthienNenharma]

heh:clapclap:
Good to know that I have sultars to knock the little ignis guys down when they attack me too often. :sifflote: (but you killed me once :/)

So when you were on the ground, Red, than with your mates.

[misaccc]

Good to know that I have sultars to knock the big strong sexy ignis knights down when they attack me too often. :sifflote: (but you killed me once :/)

So when you were on the ground, Red, than with your mates.

lol yea it was bogs idea!blame him!!!!!!:biggrin:

[NightTwix]

to team up up with guys from the other realm is fun for a night but i would never do that permanently.
i hang aroung with syrtis a bit lately but for other reasons than an alliance ^^

my guess is that alsius is looking for an alliance partner because they are outnumbered all the time.
Today some stood at samal and clapped while we fought syrtis there, then they attacked the syrtis at the gate

[Valorius]

Several Cabras helped Ignis at stone again last night too (or tried to anyway). That's the second night in a row. Probably as many as 6. After we killed them, they didn't seem inclined to run all the way back to samal again. I don't much care, it just means more targets, which means more kills...

And IMO alsius is not outnumbered anywhere near as bad as it's made out to be. In fact, we have far more trouble with them at our forts then we do with ignis....far more trouble.

I love Val's shouting in the general tab. Oh I missed those. :biggrin:
As usual, i was 'shouting' out some solid commonsense advice. ;)

"FOCUS ON THE CABRAS"

PS: It's not 'shouting' unless there's an exclamation point at the end of the sentence, but we won't let that little factoid get in the way of a good story. ;)

[firstly]

PS: It's not 'shouting' unless there's an exclamation point at the end of the sentence, but we won't let that little factoid get in the way of a good story. ;)

Actually, I think you'll find that all caps is always considered 'shouting' in any form of CMC (Computer-Mediated Communication) although the addition of exclamation points can be another marker of aggressiveness:

'In addition, other attributes, such as the use of profanity, all capital letters, or numerous punctuation marks at the end of a sentence in email messages, are sometimes said to be characteristic of flaming.

In addition, some of the messages that scored high for flaming contained profanity, all capital letters, and excessive exclamation points or question marks, suggesting that messages containing those attributes could also cause potential conflict.

Extejt (1998), in an article on email etiquette in the business arena, warns against using all capital letters in any context, noting that it is "the equivalent of screaming" (p. 63).'

From the Journal of Computer-Mediated Communication (JCMC) Volume 13, Issue 1, October 2007

http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol13/issue1/turnage.html

The study itself is very interesting with the use of a semantic scale they use called the The Message Invectives Scale. I include the link to the whole article for those interested. :)

[Valorius]

Actually, I think you'll find that all caps is always considered 'shouting' in any form of CMC (Computer-Mediated Communication) although the addition of exclamation points can be another marker of aggressiveness:

'In addition, other attributes, such as the use of profanity, all capital letters, or numerous punctuation marks at the end of a sentence in email messages, are sometimes said to be characteristic of flaming.

In addition, some of the messages that scored high for flaming contained profanity, all capital letters, and excessive exclamation points or question marks, suggesting that messages containing those attributes could also cause potential conflict.

Extejt (1998), in an article on email etiquette in the business arena, warns against using all capital letters in any context, noting that it is "the equivalent of screaming" (p. 63).'

From the Journal of Computer-Mediated Communication (JCMC) Volume 13, Issue 1, October 2007

http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol13/issue1/turnage.html

The study itself is very interesting with the use of a semantic scale they use called the The Message Invectives Scale. I include the link to the whole article for those interested. :)

I existed before the internet...and so did the written language of English. In English, capital letters are to draw attention or stress a key point(as is bold face type). Caps have nothing to do with shouting. An exclamation point however, DOES indicate shouting. It's the very reason the "!" exists at all, as it denotes, you guessed it, an exclamation.

When you see an "!" at the end of a sentence, i'm shouting. If it's not there, i'm merely trying to increase the chance of my commentary (or key components of my commentary) being noticed amid the sea of jejejejejejej and w00ts.

Simple as that.

PS: The 'journal of Computer mediated communication', and anyone that thinks that particular ulber geek tank divines my intent or governs my actions when communicating in written English can kiss my Cap using ass. ;)

[firstly]

I existed before the internet...and so did the written language of English. In English, capital letters are to draw attention or stress a key point(as is bold face type). Caps have nothing to do with shouting. An exclamation point however, DOES indicate shouting. It's the very reason the "!" exists at all, as it denotes, you guessed it, an exclamation.

When you see an "!" at the end of a sentence, i'm shouting. If it's not there, i'm merely trying to increase the chance of my commentary (or key components of my commentary) being noticed amid the sea of jejejejejejej and w00ts.

Simple as that.

PS: The 'journal of Computer mediated communication', and anyone that thinks that particular ulber geek tank divines my intent or governs my actions when communicating in written English can kiss my Cap using ass. ;)

Yes yes, you have your own set of linguistic rules as do we all Valorius, I was merely pointing out that the majority of CMC users will misconstrue your intentions. Nobody is suggesting that linguistic rules inherent in the English language 'govern your actions', but indeed they can and do 'divine your intent', if they did not, the many methods of analysis would no longer be used or adapted to suit the advances and affordances of the new communication technologies. :)

(By the way, I think you mean 'uber' rather than 'ulber' ;))

[Valorius]

Yes yes, you have your own set of linguistic rules as do we all Valorius
Conveniently, i am also correct in this issue. ;)

I was merely pointing out that the majority of CMC users will misconstrue your intentions.
Then it's mutual, cause i can't understand half of the nonsense the 1337 generation babbles about either. :-P

Nobody is suggesting that linguistic rules inherent in the English language 'govern your actions', but indeed they can and do 'divine your intent', if they did not, the many methods of analysis would no longer be used or adapted to suit the advances and affordances of the new communication technologies. :)
That's the problem, "the linguistic rules inherent in the English language" have nothing to do with the nonsense the journal of whatever the hell they're called are trying to push. In the English language an "!" denotes shouting, capital letters do not, as has been the case for centuries. See, English has been around a hell of a lot longer than computers and the journal for whatever the hell it's called.

I can just see the debates in the dark ages between monks, "Brother Matthew, thou aught notst to put to parchment thine scripts in capitals, lest you be mistakenly accused of heresy and burnt at the stake as a screaming witch."

lol

(By the way, I think you mean 'uber' rather than 'ulber' ;))
Whatever the case may be.

I think what the journal for whatever the hell it's called needs is some 'sensitivity training' with regard to the needs and feelings of the persecuted caps using segments of society. ;)

[firstly]

ROFL Well thanks for giving me the best laugh I've had all year so far, srsly, I'm sure even Chomsky would chuckle :D

[Valorius]

No problemo compadre. ;)

By the way, Ignis and alsius were working in League with one another last night too. That's the third night in a row.

[ByteMe]

No problemo compadre. ;)

By the way, Ignis and alsius were working in League with one another last night too. That's the third night in a row.

Hey Val, maybe it's not an alliance. Maybe both sides just really, really, really like killing you... HMMMM nah, probably not :biggrin:

And an elf complaining about alliances while UTI (unite the idoits) is around, HA!

[Myxir]

Yeah let's cry like the spanish did in "la allianza de pines"......

[Valorius]

Hey Val, maybe it's not an alliance. Maybe both sides just really, really, really like killing you... HMMMM nah, probably not :biggrin:
:biggrin:

And an elf complaining about alliances while UTI (unite the idoits) is around, HA!
I am not complaining, i'm simply pointing out a fact...that for 3 days in a row ignis/alsius forces were seen working together at samal.

[GIGO305]

1 where were some of u ppl? i see ppl in this tread that i dnt kill or heal
2 this was the best war ever 40 syrtis ppl there that ignis had to suck goat horn to get it back :lol: for once we actualy were oraganized
3 did anyone make a video of this ill pay for it

p.s i just finished capturing samal with a few ppl how u like us now goats, this is pay back for killing me when leveling thas low!

umm yea speaking of aliances if any clan leader whats one PM me but ill be short term like for 1 hunt or fort batle(for another aliance ull need to wait another week). yea i also want to bring clan wars to regnum never sen one here

unless your realm is syrtis today you just got PWNed BIG TIME :metal:

[GIGO305]

because of the useless efort at samal ignis desided to get payback or maybe just a refond to even things out, this pic was taken 20min after the war ended and its intention is to piss ignis of even more

7172


:clapclap: this would be i nice time to re-capture samal guys get to it!

[Valour]

Fought syrtis with alsius at pb last week.
Also fought alsius with syrtis yesterday as there were more of them than ignis and syrtis put together and again today, but it was only 1 syrtis hunter fighting with us.

The alsius killed us first :/

[misaccc]

this was the best war ever 40 syrtis ppl

that shows how syrtis is great...no need for anything else to be said

[makarios68]

Alliances are interesting, as long as they are spontaneous and temporary.

Tho projects like "Unite the Elves" are a bit lame.

I mean, come on - the two realms with the biggest numbers working together to fight Alsius?

[Valorius]

that shows how syrtis is great...no need for anything else to be said
The battle in question had huge numbers on both sides. It was the biggest battle i've seen yet. Syrtis really did dominate for quite a long time.

[GIGO305]

put it which ever way you want to but ill go like this also how we are balanced

ignis(paper) good:huge numbers biggest realm
bad:mostly low lvls nad as unoragnaized as syrtis :lol:
they cant beat syrtis because our numbers and lvls stand a good chance but they beat alsius because of their low numbers

syrtis(sizors) good: kinda organized 15% of the time and we got noraml numbers and a balanced number of high/low lvls
bad:rarely organized and noob waves coming to WZ
we can beat ignis because we are the winning elfs and the mentioned above but alsius beats us because they are more organized

alsius(rock)good:very organized and mostly high lvls
bad:low numbers
they are few but so organized they keep us dying like idiots and most of them are high lvls i barely find easy ppl there all of them are very hard and they only got like 5 noobs in WZ (6 if you count santa but i killed him)

[misaccc]

put it which ever way you want to but ill go like this also how we are balanced

syrtis(paper) good:huge numbers biggest realm
bad:mostly low lvls nad as unoragnaized as ignis :lol:
they can beat ignis because we just overzerg them but they beat alsius because of their low numbers

ignis(sizors) good: kinda organized 30% of the time and they got noraml numbers and a balanced number of high/low lvls
bad:rarely organized and noob waves coming to WZ
they can beat syrtis because we are the winning elfs and the mentioned above but alsius looses to us because they are goats

alsius(rock)good:very organized and mostly high lvls
bad:low numbers
they are few but so organized they keep us dying like idiots and most of them are high lvls i barely find easy ppl there all of them are very hard and they only got like 5 noobs in WZ (6 if you count santa but i killed him)

rofl u r really imagining...i corrected the text

[DkySven]

I agree with Red here, Ignis is not the biggest realm.

[Drah]

I've no objection to short-term 'alliances' as long as it's short-term and preferably just because the two 'allied' sides are joining up because that specific fort attack (or whatever!) is too much for them to handle alone. If they were gate-camping, spawn-camping together I'd obviously have a different view. ;)

Often Syrtis are the 'victim' when it comes to recent 'alliances' but I think that can be a good thing for Syrtis too.. it'll only serve to teach Syrtis to be more organized... and I think we all can agree, many of us need to learn to be better with teamwork and coordinating attacks, etc.

It's good practice and lot more can be learned from it than tackling a small number of enemy in an easy battle. It can be frustrating but the sense of accomplishment when you've managed to push both enemy forces out of your territory is greater.

[Valorius]

I agree with Red here, Ignis is not the biggest realm.
Physically, Ignis is the biggest realm.

And Alsius does not have a shortage of high lvl active players. That's a myth.

[DonnAy]

val,we cant get more than 15 high lvl players online almost all day,and when we see desperate actions of syrtis to get allied with ignis to beat that,eh... dang that says all

[Pizdzius]

Syrtis - usually half organised waves at Shaanarid or Pinos, lonely hunters exping in other realms because we have a lack of variety of mobs and also huge huge parties after Graduations going to alsius.

Ignis - 3-6 hunting parties wandering around both enemy realms pwning everything until they encounter similar party in a death match. (War parties rarely seen around bridges and Stone)

Alsius - mostly seen invading Stone, and then again bigger well-organised groups invading few forts in a row, or defending Pinos and Trelle. Single groups seen near Imperia and central save.


^ that's just my point of view but it can be curved since I don't play in WZ 24/7 and I always admit I can be wrong ;]

but seriously, Ignis has swamps - many players go and lvl there. Shaanarid is an easy catch, Samal is a great fort war, Menirah is mostly raided by Alsius. In Alsius Imperia, Pinos and Trelle are constantly being raided by Syrtis and Ignis, and little tourist trips to Pozo keep people entertained. What does Syrtis have to offer? No one cares about Eferias, maybe a bit about the Gate and mountains near Cupula, where someone can accidentally raid Algaros. Our only nice spot is that poor Herbred. Our realm is shaped so bad :ohill: the travelling takes ages!


okay that's my little 5 cents - Ignis and Syrts make alliances for 5 minutes or vice versa with Alsius. It's not like I haven't seen any dark elf with a dwarf molesting a poor wood elf! It's not like we group because you're so awesome and we can't take Alsius alone :biggrin:

I'd rather say I have as many friends in ignis as in syrtis, we just try sometimes to hang around and only target then is alsius. And I bet other people have similar situation.

(yes Piz likes dark elves, they're sexy)

[Inkster]

val,we cant get more than 15 high lvl players online almost all day,and when we see desperate actions of syrtis to get allied with ignis to beat that,eh... dang that says all

very true and then some of the time just try getting people to help

[Valorius]

val,we cant get more than 15 high lvl players online almost all day,and when we see desperate actions of syrtis to get allied with ignis to beat that,eh... dang that says all
I see packs of alsius larger than 15 all the time.

very true and then some of the time just try getting people to help
Syrtis is at least as bad as any other realm in this regard.

[_dracus_]

Often Syrtis are the 'victim' when it comes to recent 'alliances' but I think that can be a good thing for Syrtis too.. it'll only serve to teach Syrtis to be more organized... and I think we all can agree, many of us need to learn to be better with teamwork and coordinating attacks, etc.


I totally agree with you. And I might be one of the first who need to learn how to work in a team, because I'm so bad at doing it in regnum.

[DkySven]

Really? I saw Dracus becoming very dangerous to me in group battles many times.