View Full Version : Arrows - type, material, quality - question
Barandan
02-02-2008, 06:55 PM
I've recently started playing a Hunter char and have a question about the arrows. Within a given type does the material or quality make a difference?
For example, a Master arrow, I could spend from 528 to 616 gold.
528 gold, bone material, common quality, 39-51 damage
556 gold, bone material, superior quality, 39-51 damage
586 gold, hard wood material, common quality, 39-51 damage
616 gold, hard wood material, superior quality, 39-51 damage
Different materials and qualities, but they all say damage is 39-51 piercing.
Do the cheapest tend to deal out 39 and the most expensive tend to deal out 51, or are you just wasting 90 gold?
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Also for a fixed budget, let's stick with the 586 gold, I could buy:
Master arrow, hard wood material, common quality, 39-51 damage
Viper arrow, bone material, common quality, 40-54 damage
Is the Master arrow's better material going to give it an advantage, or do you just stick with the better damage of the Viper arrow?
DemonMonger
02-02-2008, 07:24 PM
I've recently started playing a Hunter char and have a question about the arrows. Within a given type does the material or quality make a difference?
For example, a Master arrow, I could spend from 528 to 616 gold.
528 gold, bone material, common quality, 39-51 damage
556 gold, bone material, superior quality, 39-51 damage
586 gold, hard wood material, common quality, 39-51 damage
616 gold, hard wood material, superior quality, 39-51 damage
Different materials and qualities, but they all say damage is 39-51 piercing.
Do the cheapest tend to deal out 39 and the most expensive tend to deal out 51, or are you just wasting 90 gold?
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Also for a fixed budget, let's stick with the 586 gold, I could buy:
Master arrow, hard wood material, common quality, 39-51 damage
Viper arrow, bone material, common quality, 40-54 damage
Is the Master arrow's better material going to give it an advantage, or do you just stick with the better damage of the Viper arrow?
dont pay attention to quality... if there is a broken arrow for sale that does 800 damage i will use it
dont pay attention to quality... if there is a broken arrow for sale that does 800 damage i will use it
What if you miss 20 out of 25 shots?
amade
02-03-2008, 12:43 AM
After a lot of testing better material (best is fine steel, 2nd is steel, then hardened wood) seems to give you better hit chance. As for quality (common, enhanced, etc), I assume it affects how much +damage (like in weapons) the arrow gets although I could not test this because of the lack of a control method.
DemonMonger
02-03-2008, 03:02 AM
What if you miss 20 out of 25 shots?
you wont miss.....
ive tested miss rates... people say fine steel is bests... its a myth....
the higher the lvl the better the hit rate on lower lvl targets...
mainly you should worry about your bow....
JUST SO YOU KNOW I USE TRAINING ARROWS lvl 1 and have a great hit rate.....
THE PROBLEM COMES ALONG WHEN I SWITCH TO A LOWER LVL BOW...
amade
02-03-2008, 03:24 AM
you wont miss.....
ive tested miss rates... people say fine steel is bests... its a myth....
the higher the lvl the better the hit rate on lower lvl targets...
mainly you should worry about your bow....
JUST SO YOU KNOW I USE TRAINING ARROWS lvl 1 and have a great hit rate.....
THE PROBLEM COMES ALONG WHEN I SWITCH TO A LOWER LVL BOW...
Ah, so it's my tests against yours... Tricky ain't it? ;)
Anyway, the point is which arrow has better hit rate, not which bow. Even if your bow is the main deciding factor for your hit rate, won't the arrows in some small way affect hit chance as well? This is what we are trying to find out.
ljwolfe
02-04-2008, 06:41 AM
hehee i don't see much difference with miss rates vs arrow types.
DemonMonger
02-04-2008, 07:13 AM
the only thing that matters is the lvl of the arrow.... and the lvl of the bow....
all that little + 4 + 9 + 10 stuff only matters as much as a single grain of sand matters on a vast beach...
Random90
02-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Nice to try understand something when everybody says otherwise than someone else. But still low lvl arrows dont cost more than 1-5 gold even if better material...not so expensive :)
amade
02-04-2008, 09:06 PM
No, arrow lvl does seem to count for accuracy if my old tests were anything to go by. I'm doing new tests to cover more areas as well as using multiple bows for a more accurate result.
Miraculix
02-04-2008, 09:33 PM
dont pay attention to quality... if there is a broken arrow for sale that does 800 damage i will use it
I tend to agree with DM on this - amade's statistics seem too random/inconclusive to be able to say it makes any actual difference.
Proteas
02-06-2008, 10:38 AM
hehehe i have bad miss rates both with spells and just normal attacks....
being an hunter/marksman is really horrible at this time of the game beacuse of the lag trouble and the updates and such. :p
Regards
spartan27583
02-08-2008, 10:26 PM
Being a hunter...I think the hit rates and damage relies more on the bow, than the arrows.
amade
02-10-2008, 05:34 AM
Being a hunter...I think the hit rates and damage relies more on the bow, than the arrows.
The part about damage is true. But, the bow only offers piercing damage. Slashing/blunt damage from arrows do make a large difference against targets that are weak against it, this was tested.
DemonMonger
02-10-2008, 07:33 AM
If you want to be well rounded.... test arrow types vs monster type
lessers are weak on blunt
golems are weak on blunt
Hyenas are weak on slash
the list goes on... but im not gonna make it that easy for you... do your tests
mann2411
02-10-2008, 09:03 AM
eat my tests
im sure thats what he meant to say lol jk
could never really be bothered doing tests
i kinda ran low on the finances to do it after when i accidently typed in
buy 10000 arrows of 50
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