Demading too much

[-Edge-]

What the hell is going on? I see way to many people nowadays making work, telling NGD what to do, and even threatening NGD? For crying out loud, the Dev's do enough for you already, be thankful that they are there to at least LISTEN to your ideas, when in other MMORPGS the devs ignore everything the community says, and that dosen't even start at the free part too.

I don't care if your joking or not, stop putting pressure on the developers telling them whats wrong, what needs to be done, whats broken this time. Say it once and keep it to yourself! Because I don't want to fucking hear it 100 times, and I doubt they do either.

If theres a problem it usually gets resolved not involved into a bigger one. Maybe you are trying to stop problems, but did you ever think of the ones you are creating?

You don't need to fill this thread with nonsense, better yet, read it and think about it. A don't want a game run by the community, though I doubt it will come to that, the devs do a great deal of work, waste alot of money probably, so that you can have fun while they earn the small share of it.

Show some respect

[-Edge-]

everyone is telling us how much we suck for voicing our opinions .

Did I ever say people are allowed to show thier opinions? I never said people can't show their opinions, I told them to lay off these abusive demands.

All you've done with this post is probably drive some people off who were stating their honest (percieved to you as whining) opinions, and because of that...

Honesty comes to a certain extent, it usually ends when people have to repeat the same thing over and over until they get what they want.

everyone is telling us how much we suck for voicing our opinions and that something must be wrong with us.

Yea something is wrong, you see damage done only to you

I for one would rather just not post at all. That's not a threat, it's an honest feeling that you give me.

By all means why did you post?

"For crying out loud" -- who do YOU think YOU are? Mr High And Mighty. Show some respect.

There it is again, ignorance, Then whatever you want, why don't you also start ranting about something else? Maybe why we have to pay for Premium items?

who do YOU think YOU are?

Im just doing the same thing you self-proclaimed you are doing. I thought you didn't find anything wrong in that? Unless of coursse if its directed at you, it MUST be wrong.

[DemonMonger]

I like knocking down card castles.... how many have you built?:closed1:

[makarios68]

With certain things i think people have the right to complain.

A lot of complaining (like the constant hunter bitching) is petty.

But the lag issues are seriously affecting the game experience for many people.

So if NGD know how strongly people feel about it, priority should be given to fixing it (which i believe it already has.)

And Edge - as you are so keen to point out what we should/shouldn't post on here - i have a suggestion for you: temper your language.

[-Edge-]

Sorry Edge, but your contribution level on these forums is about .5%. The rest of us contribute both good and bad.
But at least we do contribute, and thus we have the right to speak.

I don't contribute anything?! I guess ill just delete my Ring and Amulets guide...

And its not about who does more or less, it dosen't give you any power.

My original post summed everything up quite nicely, so pick at it all you want

or you ran out of things to say.

i have a suggestion for you: temper your language.

You must not know me well, ill take my chances ;)

[Aries202]

you know it is stupid some one demanding something its like a little insect bothering you all day imagen that some one telling you that in your ear every second in a annoying voice every body gets ticked off of that thats how NGD feels, were the little insects saying the same crap in there ear

[trulyem]

Totally agree with Katiechan 100%.

The game will never live without its players, hence, we need to voice out our opinions. As a game developer/player, they must know what a player feels from frustrations and trials of the game. Because if not, the game is senseless. In order for a developer to create more deviations, he has to know the feedbacks, was it good? or was it not?.

Certain emotional posts that are seen in these forums are sign of a player's frustrations which is normal for a human being.

I believe the developers are not "pressured" because this is just a person's opinion, not a whole.

P.S. if leaving is a sign of b*tching then, thats totally minimal because I've seen much worse than that...

[Angelwinged_Devil]

The game will never live without its players, hence, we need to voice out our opinions. As a game developer/player, they must know what a player feels from frustrations and trials of the game. Because if not, the game is senseless. In order for a developer to create more deviations, he has to know the feedbacks, was it good? or was it not?.

said this several times ^^ glad to see someone agrees

[ljwolfe]

if ngd didn't sell premium items, then you'd be right. the problem is that they incur a liability when they sell things. People have a right to demand a functioning game if they've paid for any part of it.

[makarios68]

if ngd didn't sell premium items, then you'd be right. the problem is that they incur a liability when they sell things. People have a right to demand a functioning game if they've paid for any part of it.

Yes, buying xymerin makes you a paying customer.

I think this gives you a right to grumble a bit if things aren't what you expect them to be.

And as Emelia said, we are all human and prone to the odd frustrated rant or two.

As long as you don't go too far or do it too often...:)

[ljwolfe]

anytime anyone complains, one of two posters come tell us that we can't complain. These two need to get ngd's nutsack off their chins.

[Aries202]

anytime anyone complains, one of two posters come tell us that we can't complain. These two need to get ngd's nutsack off their chins.

I hope that wasnt to me

[ljwolfe]

I hope that wasnt to me

no, the OP and Hellbound.

[ncvr]

Good god, Hell_bound left the forums and you're still flaming him?

That's like AWD flaming Valorius...

[johnpriest]

two words.... GROW UP.

[mann2411]

blah blah blah will yall just be quiet and stop posting these stupid threads
YES NGD DO KNOW ABOUT THE LAG YES THEY ARE TRYING TO FIX IT LEAVE EM ALONE ALREADY AND JUST ATTEMPT TO PLAY THE GAME

[Static_Fang]

What the hell is going on? I see way to many people nowadays making work, telling NGD what to do, and even threatening NGD? For crying out loud, the Dev's do enough for you already, be thankful that they are there to at least LISTEN to your ideas, when in other MMORPGS the devs ignore everything the community says, and that dosen't even start at the free part too.

I don't care if your joking or not, stop putting pressure on the developers telling them whats wrong, what needs to be done, whats broken this time. Say it once and keep it to yourself! Because I don't want to fucking hear it 100 times, and I doubt they do either.

If theres a problem it usually gets resolved not involved into a bigger one. Maybe you are trying to stop problems, but did you ever think of the ones you are creating?

You don't need to fill this thread with nonsense, better yet, read it and think about it. A don't want a game run by the community, though I doubt it will come to that, the devs do a great deal of work, waste alot of money probably, so that you can have fun while they earn the small share of it.

Show some respect

FINALLY! I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY 1 WHO THOUGHT THIS WAY!

<i didnt know how to make a thread at the time, and now i have just left snippets of how i feel in all my posts>

NGD FTW!

Also, instead of flaming over every single thread, make 1 thread about lag, and let every1 flame about lag in that 1, ect. Therefore, if a DEV enters a thread, least they can put on a helmet first ^^

[Aren]

Yea I can't agree more,

I know that if I was in NGD's shoes, id get pretty POed at some point, I think all Edge was doing was pointing out that that point has been reached, or its about to be reached.

OFC we need to send our comments, but some of the stuff ive read over the last few days is ridiculous.


....one more thing, im so tired of people using this "we're all human" crap, I see that phrase at least once each week whenever someone gets mad at someone, then looks for forgivness.

[-Edge-]

I hope that wasnt to me
Oh It was, AFAIK, Hell_bound never posted in this thread.

And I know the only reason he disagrees with me is because he is ticked off at me leaving his clan.

[ljwolfe]

heheh i don't even know who you are, rated. In deference to folks on this board, I will try to vent my anger about lag elsewhere. I do hope it gets fixed. It would be a shame to lose a great game. BTW 10 crashes in an hour last night :(

[CumeriTarenes]

Why do they [NGD] ignore it [this part of forum]? Because of stupid threads like this.

here you go...better to show some respect towards your fellow players

Who are you to tell us what to do and what not to do? When I create a thread to make happen to ban Hell_bound it is a stupid thread? So you agree with people who are insulting people over and over again? And all NGD does is deleting the thread but not ban the user.

Way to go...but without me!

[Aries202]

but see edge never told anybody what to do he just said this demanding crap is way out of line like i said were the little insects on the admins ear saying the same crap over and over again people said it already about 50 times there working on it it doesnt take a week to fix something there a small group they do what they do if you cant wait till they fix this problem go to some other game seriously this game was good untill babies started to flame the forum demanding crap doesnt solve anything NGD are not ur slaves your a player in their game and they do what they can to keep you onto this game...

Aries.

[ljwolfe]

If you or ngd don't like the complaints you are free to refund people for the moiney they spent on premiums. They take the money, they gotta deal with the complaints.

[Mals]

well, one of my good things is the pacience, usually ^^, i agree with edge as well, we may not always repeat the same things to NGD, only one time wand wait... as you see, this is a little stupid (:imstupid: btw xD), wait wait and nothing, i know that, but its all we can do and NGD doesnt want to hear it many times either, we have to be kindness and respectfull to them, otherwise this will never end, MGD is trying to work as fast as possible and trying to fix all too

[7334]

here you go...better to show some respect towards your fellow players

Who are you to tell us what to do and what not to do? When I create a thread to make happen to ban Hell_bound it is a stupid thread? So you agree with people who are insulting people over and over again? And all NGD does is deleting the thread but not ban the user.

Way to go...but without me!


http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=czrsexk0.png

[CumeriTarenes]

well, one of my good things is the pacience, usually ^^, i agree with edge as well, we may not always repeat the same things to NGD, only one time wand wait... as you see, this is a little stupid (:imstupid: btw xD), wait wait and nothing, i know that, but its all we can do and NGD doesnt want to hear it many times either, we have to be kindness and respectfull to them, otherwise this will never end, MGD is trying to work as fast as possible and trying to fix all too


say it once and it is enough...just my opinion....but:

When you say it, and NGD does not respond, player will repeat until they get a statement from NGD. When NGD does not respond to bugs as well as complaints then there is no wonder why the complaining is going on.

It is the incertitude that keeps players, users, custumers complaining.

A clear statement from NGD would save a lot of whining in the forums.
Now you can tell "Yes, but they rather concentrate on fixing problems than on responding to customers complaints" But it is not the customers fault when NGD has a lack on money to pay for additional staff. They have to plan better...you cannot develop a game too fast, release new updates too early, or try to change too much in a single update. It is just bad coordination when they cannot handle the problems they have because most problems they created them selve by implementing new stuff in the game. You cannot create new stuff to make a better game when you haven't planned the environment, when you have too weak servers, when you have no personal for public relation.

[CumeriTarenes]

http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=czrsexk0.png


it is obviously that this account was created just to post this. I will report it, and I hope NGD will ban this account as soon as possible.


Edit: just to save it I posted it as an attachment

[ljwolfe]

Yeah. Congrats to the gutless fanboi who posted that picture working from mommy's basement!

[Mals]

say it once and it is enough...just my opinion....but:

When you say it, and NGD does not respond, player will repeat until they get a statement from NGD. When NGD does not respond to bugs as well as complaints then there is no wonder why the complaining is going on.

It is the incertitude that keeps players, users, custumers complaining.

A clear statement from NGD would save a lot of whining in the forums.
Now you can tell "Yes, but they rather concentrate on fixing problems than on responding to customers complaints" But it is not the customers fault when NGD has a lack on money to pay for additional staff. They have to plan better...you cannot develop a game too fast, release new updates too early, or try to change too much in a single update. It is just bad coordination when they cannot handle the problems they have because most problems they created them selve by implementing new stuff in the game. You cannot create new stuff to make a better game when you haven't planned the environment, when you have too weak servers, when you have no personal for public relation.

mmm, yeah, that happens too, i think :p

[Angelwinged_Devil]

http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=czrsexk0.png
disagreeing is one thing, but this is pathetic

[-Edge-]

http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=czrsexk0.png
Lol?

Someone get an IP tracer

Anyway back ontopic, I guess thats the kind of stuff that going to be flying around these forums from now on. .....anyway

The original post is being changed in many ways, now you guys are just putting words in my mouth. The point is people need to treat NGD in a more respectful way. I already got alot of replies that aren't even shown here, even from "special people" so I know that there is nothing wrong in me pointing out facts. I didn't tell anyone to stop complaining, you have the rights to do that whether you pay or not.

But it seems so people are "Desperate" to bring this thread down they are even hunting through my post history.

And all NGD does is deleting the thread but not ban the user? Again, theres a reason this thread hasn't been deleted, like I said, I know what im doing and theres no reason to attack myself or other players. (Though that picture was way out of line)

I would like to remind the people that are agreeing with the original poster that you must play the game regularly in order to flame those who complain about things such as lag Really Kate, thats pointless, you don't know me, but I can say pretty confidently that I am well known ingame even in Syrtis.

I can also say that I get alot of recognition in the community too because im a very active person in Regnum, as even your fellow Syrtians tell me. I don't go around bragging I joined 1 month before you do I? Just cool it and stick to the topic.

Then I don't think you really have room to talkWhat about self-proclaimed "every voice matters"? Listen maybe you don't even understand the point of the thread, I get lag, I am one of "you" if thats what you want to call it. I don't need people telling me who I am and how I play, I friggin KNOW who I am.

No, we are not going to threaten to torture NGD if they don't fix the lag.
And a post like this is the whole reason for this thread, to get people to think a little, to show a little respect to each other. With having said all that, I think im really done with this thread.

If anyone wants to get a point through to the devs from now on I suggest they do it without saying things like "we'll starve you if you don't fix the lag"

[Lexen]

100% I agree with edge.

[Valour]

Oh my, will the arguments in most threads ever cease?

[Hylius]

Oh my, will the arguments in most threads ever cease?

Will people stop making completely unnecessary rhetorical questions? Oh, the irony!

Same answer for both questions, pal.

[Valour]

You like to continue the arguments, eh?

It just makes the forums a bad place for people like me to come and read from time to time.

[Hylius]

I apologize. I just somehow couldn't realize that your kryptonite was sarcastic remarks from strangers across the globe. Next time I'll try to answer your question with a cherry on top.

[Valour]

:thumb_down:

[Miraculix]

i'm in inq and i've only seen edge on the comic, I've seen Boger *after he quit* more than i've seen edge in-game :p [/off-topic]

Back on topic:

I'm sorry Edge, I got nothing against you, but you're dead wrong on this one. Okey, this is a free-to-play game, so what? You should expect nothing of it, make no complaints if you don't like smth? wtf? Just imagine what would happen to wikipedia, gnu, linux, or anything else that is mostly community maintained if those people had the same attitude as you do. gcc would still be compiling only hello world in c, linux would probably be just some nutjob hacker's "i am different than j00" os of choice [kinda like gentoo! ha! there, i said it! :P], and wikipedia would have around 40 articles.

No-one forces anyone to play, sure, but no-one forces anyone to care either. You think all these people complaining about the game had nothing else to do with their lives? Hell, I count every fucking minute I have in my day, spending some on these forums to talk about the game is because I *like* the game and want to see it get better.

Posts like the one you made only make me want to quit the game and find some place where the average community mentality is actually above that of a typical 12-year old.

[Miraculix]

You should fit in perfectly then. :) I'm kidding, I'm kidding! :) :superpusso:

Wanna make out? :naughty:

[Hylius]

:thumb_down:

How insightful. Please keep those brilliant comments of yours coming. I can't get enough of them.

[aric_swartzell]

Can I watch?

[_dracus_]

Can I watch?

I'm collecting the money before you can sit and watch :d