View Full Version : Who says knights doesn't block alot?
Znurre
04-20-2008, 06:10 PM
Some time ago, Magnet suggested a passive damage resistance spell.
So, the few hits I get in on a knight should be reduced damage?
misaccc
04-20-2008, 06:16 PM
bad luck znurry boy;)
magnet
04-20-2008, 06:29 PM
Some time ago, Magnet suggested a passive damage resistance spell.
So, the few hits I get in on a knight should be reduced damage?
I also suggested the absolute blocking chance of passive block should be changed to relative, hence limiting those luck streaks. I hate them as much as you do, sometimes it's all, sometimes none. Unfortunately unless someone has a brilliant idea blocks are meant to be somehow luck-based -- or there shouldn't have been knights in the game from the start. The shields are based on that game design, it is the same in most games. The absolute blocking chance and th random numbers generator are to blame.
PS: it's the same when I cast Mindsquasher on a Barb 3 times and it works none of them.
DkySven
04-20-2008, 06:46 PM
Muhahahahahah! Yes, blocking is awesome and when you sue block and precise block it's scary. It might be a little over the top, but what else do we have?
Foggia
04-20-2008, 07:12 PM
Muhahahahahah! Yes, blocking is awesome and when you sue block and precise block it's scary. It might be a little over the top, but what else do we have?
Isnt that the battle which annoyed me also so much(lag + resisted sk)? Afair this knight had good block chance, but he couldnt kill anything (when I died he had problems with untagged hunter, didnt he?)
Znurre
04-20-2008, 07:18 PM
Isnt that the battle which annoyed me also so much(lag + resisted sk)? Afair this knight had good block chance, but he couldnt kill anything (when I died he had problems with untagged hunter, didnt he?)
It's the fight at Trelle, yes.
You realize I was about to break my keyboard when I died by your crystal blast? :P
Foggia
04-20-2008, 07:21 PM
It's the fight at Trelle, yes.
You realize I was about to break my keyboard when I died by your crystal blast? :P
Dont worry, I had the same feeling when untagged hunter without buffs resisted my sk when I had 78 life :)
Znurre
04-20-2008, 07:24 PM
Dont worry, I had the same feeling when untagged hunter without buffs resisted my sk when I had 78 life :)
You mean one of those noobs that just stood there, scratching their asses watching me die? :)
Foggia
04-20-2008, 07:25 PM
You mean one of those noobs that just stood there, scratching their asses watching me die? :)
exactly :wiggle14:
Pizdzius
04-20-2008, 07:32 PM
And surely knights also miss a lot
LuthienNenharma
04-20-2008, 07:46 PM
And surely knights also miss a lot
I had those problems with my warlock too.
Always in the evenings...
Pizdzius
04-20-2008, 08:02 PM
I have it on EVERY mob :p
Mattdoesrock
04-20-2008, 08:30 PM
They're not all blocks; but you get the idea.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/926/knightblocksevadeses5.jpg
Perhaps I just got unlucky :eek:
magnet
04-20-2008, 08:32 PM
I have it on EVERY mob :p
You were cursed at birth :eek24:
Godofsilver
04-20-2008, 09:30 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about... knights actually blocking attacks... pffffffft, like that'll ever happen!
Pizdzius
04-20-2008, 09:46 PM
yes, Godo, we remember that one ;D
I am just furious at the hit chance rate
misaccc
04-21-2008, 11:30 AM
While the mage evaded 3 spells and canceled ripost by going out of range...
Aries202
04-21-2008, 01:43 PM
jeje i'll post a log of my blocking/evading it'll make ur mouth drop, when i log onto the knight ...
DkySven
04-21-2008, 08:03 PM
In mobs I block rarely without precise block(but hé, what does that matter? it's duration=cooldown), but in fights where also people with a lower level are than me I block around 1/3 and sometimes 1/2 and precise block even 3/4. So in fortwars knights rule, they jsut can't get me down, only in chasing they suck due their lack of range and speed.
Aries202
04-22-2008, 03:18 AM
Well whats ur block chance?
DkySven
04-22-2008, 04:24 PM
72, A reflecting shield and block level 5, which gives me passive 30% more block change points.
Aries202
04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
how much block chance does ur shield give using the block passive and precise block gives you good results
DkySven
04-23-2008, 01:41 PM
If I remember correctly, the reflecting shield gives 41 block change. (I have no clue how the 72 block change in the character window is made out of that)
Btw, my shield gives also +4 constitution :D
Aries202
04-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Its because when you put on ur shield it adds the block chance from what you have in shield disciplin
DkySven
04-24-2008, 03:47 PM
Wait.... So a shield with 41 block change gives 41% change to block? 30% change to block of the passive = 71%?
It's not %, it's a fixed value required for the algorithm...
Only the Shield spells other than passive are fixed block % values.
Aries202
04-25-2008, 04:00 PM
Yeah % is another thing if you look at ur shield is says +X block chance it adds that with the other block chance skills you have that only work with a shield on the +X% skills doesnt add on the log
Sorry i cant get a screen yet havent logged on with the knight..
UmarilsStillHere
04-25-2008, 04:18 PM
me= knight yeah i block a lot but i also miss a hell of a lot and get lots of resitsts against my powers i miss around 2-3 times for each mob i kill =/:mad:
Static_Fang
04-26-2008, 06:10 PM
I had lvl 4 lightning doing 58's or 3x's on a knight -.-'
Mind you, that was my only spell that hit xD
Lvl 5 lightning hits 98 dmg on a 100% unbuffed knight using standard lvl 50 armour (that blue stuff...dueling, was it?).
DkySven
04-27-2008, 07:29 AM
I think it was protector in that case. Protector is very good against slashing and lightning and bad against the others.
Heglin
04-27-2008, 08:15 AM
Shield? Medusa shield (the small and imo worst looking one) is very good vs lightning. Guardian and Dragon armour (the lvl 50 armours) isn't that good against lightning. /Heg block chance 84 +pb lvl 5
Well, I've fought against many knights and they all take 98 dmg from it...
sathilda
04-28-2008, 09:09 AM
Holy crap are the knights... despite the log is short, the fight lasted about 2 _real_ minutes... and at the beginning of the fight he had something like 1k HP left :crying1:
Static_Fang
04-28-2008, 10:13 AM
Holy crap are the knights... despite the log is short, the fight lasted about 2 _real_ minutes... and at the beginning of the fight he had something like 1k HP left :crying1:
Nice fight xD
magnet
04-28-2008, 05:50 PM
Holy crap are the knights... despite the log is short, the fight lasted about 2 _real_ minutes... and at the beginning of the fight he had something like 1k HP left :crying1:
Well Relajo is a very good knight... You were lucky to get him with no HPs :p.
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