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Miraculix
05-02-2008, 05:46 AM
So, I recently got myself some ximerin, seeing as my free time is getting less and less, and the desire to play only grows. I figured if I ever hit 50, I'd have to do it by using boosters.
And yeah okay vanity kicked in and I want a cool looking armor too :p
So, any tips on using boosters? How to squeeze the best out of them? How much do they actually last?
Don't restrict yourself to my questions, any experience you think would be helpful to share, please, feel free ;)
Static_Fang
05-02-2008, 06:35 AM
So, I recently got myself some ximerin, seeing as my free time is getting less and less, and the desire to play only grows. I figured if I ever hit 50, I'd have to do it by using boosters.
And yeah okay vanity kicked in and I want a cool looking armor too :p
So, any tips on using boosters? How to squeeze the best out of them? How much do they actually last?
Don't restrict yourself to my questions, any experience you think would be helpful to share, please, feel free ;)
If anything, ask Comp and Wudy. Their the leveling MONSTERS :S
Mikan
05-02-2008, 06:59 AM
So, I recently got myself some ximerin, seeing as my free time is getting less and less, and the desire to play only grows. I figured if I ever hit 50, I'd have to do it by using boosters.
And yeah okay vanity kicked in and I want a cool looking armor too :p
So, any tips on using boosters? How to squeeze the best out of them? How much do they actually last?
Don't restrict yourself to my questions, any experience you think would be helpful to share, please, feel free ;)
Miraculix,
Well, let's see...
The final level is about 700K XP...
You can do the final level in 1-2 days with +100% boosters and health and mana potions.
So for the late 40s, one booster will complete about 50% of the level (or more) if you are solo and keep killing.
(This last part is very important to keep the timer from stopping, so keep lots of potions ready.)
They are especially effective when combined with an ally Conjuror (infinite mana and health) instead of potions.
The attached picture is after 1 1/2 boosters (and subsequent "levelling" hours) with potions.
(I say "levelling" hours because it lasts longer than an actual hour since you might take breaks, go to sell, and the timer stops counting down between mobs occasionally as well.)
So to summarize: With Ximerin it is incredibly easy to level. You can solo the final level like it is nothing, and the levels that come before it like they are mere childsplay. It still consumes time, but much more efficiently.
Without Ximerin it is an absolute nightmare. I tried it for a while, and it didn't go so well. :(
I'm still glad I levelled Nessa all the way to 48 without boosters, because it all feels a tad bit cheap. :)
But I am supporting NGD, which is the greatest thing we can do within the context of the game.
Regards.
_dracus_
05-02-2008, 07:57 AM
Ok from my experience, I didn't feel the need of Mana and Life potions. What you need to go on XP rampage is good mob density and mob that doesn't hurt you so much (I prefered the cat and dog to cyclops for example). You need to kill a lot without needing mana and life (in the end Ancient and Wild Lions were my targets). Then you need time, and friends are welcome to have less boring grinding session.
PS: I really need to thanks Sprell and Zielski for getting to lvl 50 they helped me so much.
It depends on what you want, XP boosters count down while you are killing a mob and 10 seconds afterwards.
If you are limited on the amount of boosters you can use, to make it last, skill a few offensive spells so you can down a single mob quickly. This will allow you more kills per booster, but may take longer in overall time.
Miraculix
05-02-2008, 03:46 PM
Thanks everyone. I'm still a little confused about the timer. What do you mean "to keep it from stopping" ? Can I somehow avoid the extra seconds that counted are after each kill by starting another fight immediately? How can you see the time that is left in your booster? It's gone from my inventory once activated :/
And I don't plan to use potions, I'd rather use up all my ximerin on xp-boosters, to lvl my hunter as well after I get my marks to 50 :)
Holding the cursor over your exp bar and you'll see the countdown from 60 mins.
The timer begins whenever you attack a monster (not player), and carries on counting down until 10 seconds after you stop attacking it.
Miraculix
05-02-2008, 04:00 PM
Holding the cursor over your exp bar and you'll see the countdown from 60 mins.
The timer begins whenever you attack a monster (not player), and carries on counting down until 10 seconds after you stop attacking it.
Ah thank you! That clears it out. So I need to attack the next mob within 10 seconds at least (actually as fast as possible) from the last one to get the most out of my xp-time, right?
Depends on how long it's actually taking you to kill each mob.
magnet
05-02-2008, 04:08 PM
The best and fastest way is in a powerexping party, maximizing GRP bonus (and equalizing base exp).
The idea is to never stop (whichever the class), and insta kill all mobs.
_dracus_
05-02-2008, 04:19 PM
The best and fastest way is in a powerexping party, maximizing GRP bonus (and equalizing base exp).
The idea is to never stop (whichever the class), and insta kill all mobs.
Got my vote for that. The problem can be to find the group, but definetly XPing in group is the best.
makarios68
05-02-2008, 06:21 PM
Only advice i can think of if yr starting a new char is:
- Get all the low lvl quests out of the way first (you'll easily get to around lvl 16 before you need boosts.)
- If you lvl up and get a quest that involves killing unchallenging or hard mobs, save it till your boost runs out, or you'll waste booster time.
- When you get to around lvl 16 use only 50% boosts, as they are good enough for a few lvls.
- Try to get into lvling parties, coz the killing is almost non-stop, and you rarely need to rest. This helps prevent wasting booster time, beacuse the seconds tick after you kill a mob. If you're on yr own you'll have to rest more and when u rest after killing a mob the seconds tick away for a while.
Hope some of this helps...
padreigh
05-02-2008, 06:50 PM
5ppl group on challenging(solo) mobs today, area with lots of mobs, 4h of grinding, 2 boosters, 400ksomething xp today. about the 1/3 only due to 160+grp bonus. As conjurers were part of the party mana wasnt a problem, life neither because mobs do 1-2 steps and fall dead from all that ranged attacks.
Miraculix
05-02-2008, 10:53 PM
Thanks everyone.
And wudy, no, I'm not starting now, I'm using them for my marksman, and if I have any xim left, I'll use them for my hunter too.
Static_Fang
05-03-2008, 03:12 AM
Man, if i get boosters i have to rethink my training method
XP booster tip one: Find people, and train WITH them...
Interesting
Mikan
05-03-2008, 03:27 AM
Man, if i get boosters i have to rethink my training method
XP booster tip one: Find people, and train WITH them...
Interesting
Static_Fang,
Parties actually tend to slow me down, because I'm a Barbarian who kills in 2 hits (1 normal, 1 South Cross), which is simply a levelling speed that cannot really be matched by your average party.
No setup that a barb can come up with really works too well with parties either, because their base attack will always take away at least 40% of the mob's HP, and the only way they can level well in groups is to only hit the mob once and then turn or move away hoping the group will finish it off.
Marksmen and Warlocks can simply stop casting spells to stop damaging the mob too much.
There's also the fact that half the time the barb is running around like a loon just trying to hit ANY mob, but I think that's mostly because Syrtis has too many archers, since I don't have this problem with Knights.
Spiritual blow helps, but not alot. :/
Regards.
Miraculix
05-03-2008, 03:39 AM
Parties actually tend to slow me down, because I'm a Barbarian who kills in 2 hits (1 normal, 1 South Cross), which is simply a levelling speed that cannot really be matched by your average party.
No setup that a barb can come up with really works too well with parties either, because their base attack will always take away at least 40% of the mob's HP, and the only way they can level well in groups is to only hit the mob once and then turn or move away hoping the group will finish it off.
I guess it would be similar for Warlocks?
There's also the fact that half the time the barb is running around like a loon just trying to hit ANY mob, but I think that's mostly because Syrtis has too many archers, since I don't have this problem with Knights.
Spiritual blow helps, but not alot. :/
When I level with Meleager, a knight clan-mate, he knows he'd better not run to the mob right when I start attacking it. I hit it, he moves a bit towards it while I do the opposite of the archer-thing: I run forwards while shooting, so at some point we are both at melee range with the mob having taken around 2 shots from me, maybe with 1 spell piggybacked, but I usually leave the spells (shield piercing mostly) for when we're both at melee range. So we get almost 50/50 share of the damage this way.
It's a whole other deal when I'm in a lvling party with a conju and other archers. It's hell for warriors, and it goes pretty much as Katiechan described. The mob is down before the warrior is even halfway there, and when it's mostly marksmen, they're all standing around the conju to get mana from mana communion and shooting the mob from 30+ meters. With mana supply, this doesn't slow down, and it never gets better for the warrior.
The second version is what gets me the most XP over time, and since syrtis is mostly archers, those are mainly the kind of lvling parties you will run into. It's a tough deal for warriors in parties, so I guess it's logical that they benefit more from solo leveling with a full support conju.
Static_Fang
05-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Parties actually tend to slow me down, because I'm a Barbarian who kills in 2 hits (1 normal, 1 South Cross), which is simply a levelling speed that cannot really be matched by your average party.
No setup that a barb can come up with really works too well with parties either, because their base attack will always take away at least 40% of the mob's HP, and the only way they can level well in groups is to only hit the mob once and then turn or move away hoping the group will finish it off.
Marksmen and Warlocks can simply stop casting spells to stop damaging the mob too much.
There's also the fact that half the time the barb is running around like a loon just trying to hit ANY mob, but I think that's mostly because Syrtis has too many archers, since I don't have this problem with Knights.
Spiritual blow helps, but not alot. :/
I'm better as a solo trainer, but if theres 2 many parties for me 2 train solo i just go around hitting every mob i find once, and use a good area damage as they chase me XD
_dracus_
05-03-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm better as a solo trainer, but if theres 2 many parties for me 2 train solo i just go around hitting every mob i find once, and use a good area damage as they chase me XD
Terror+FB+Crystal blast is a good idea of what a warlock can do for killing mobs :D
Static_Fang
05-03-2008, 11:07 PM
Terror+FB+Crystal blast is a good idea of what a warlock can do for killing mobs :D
Dont forget Summon Lightning for when they hit you, -20% Str is really pissy :p
Mattdoesrock
05-04-2008, 01:51 AM
Static_Fang,
Parties actually tend to slow me down, because I'm a Barbarian who kills in 2 hits (1 normal, 1 South Cross), which is simply a levelling speed that cannot really be matched by your average party.
No setup that a barb can come up with really works too well with parties either, because their base attack will always take away at least 40% of the mob's HP, and the only way they can level well in groups is to only hit the mob once and then turn or move away hoping the group will finish it off.
Marksmen and Warlocks can simply stop casting spells to stop damaging the mob too much.
There's also the fact that half the time the barb is running around like a loon just trying to hit ANY mob, but I think that's mostly because Syrtis has too many archers, since I don't have this problem with Knights.
Spiritual blow helps, but not alot. :/
Regards.
Absolutely, 100% agree about barbs.
_dracus_
05-04-2008, 07:48 AM
Dont forget Summon Lightning for when they hit you, -20% Str is really pissy :p
Area whore :D
Static_Fang
05-04-2008, 11:22 AM
Area whore :D
Area Stud xD
tyrotyro
05-05-2008, 07:52 PM
shew
thats a relieve
anyways im a conj
so the only things i ned to buy are horses and xp scrolls right because conj. lvl 40+ nvr need to rest
am i right.
also im lvl 45 on my conj.
how long do u think it'll take me to become lvl 50
also how much xim do u think ill waste if i bought 18000
(which i did)
Miraculix
05-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Katiechan told me that I'll need around 12 +100% boosters to get from 44 to 50. With the new xp system, i'm guessing this becomes 15. These boosters cost 1k xim each.
Static_Fang
05-06-2008, 07:39 AM
Katiechan told me that I'll need around 12 +100% boosters to get from 44 to 50. With the new xp system, i'm guessing this becomes 15. These boosters cost 1k xim each.
Guessing NGD needs the money right now, or their getting around to making lvls higher
_dracus_
05-06-2008, 10:52 AM
Guessing NGD needs the money right now, or their getting around to making lvls higher
Yes certainly.
Miraculix we should organzied grinding session with Lena and Sacapus so I can provide mana to both of you.
Miraculix
05-06-2008, 12:45 PM
Yes certainly.
Miraculix we should organzied grinding session with Lena and Sacapus so I can provide mana to both of you.
I think I might be able to get conju support too, from my clan. We'll talk :)
magnet
05-06-2008, 01:03 PM
Katiechan told me that I'll need around 12 +100% boosters to get from 44 to 50. With the new xp system, i'm guessing this becomes 15. These boosters cost 1k xim each.
I want Katiechan's weed then..
1 +100%booster ~= 100-110k exp when done properly (can be topped to 150k but good luck with that).
44-50 is more than 3 million exp, you will need about 30 boosters.
I just leveled a char to 50 and I don't think it can be done any faster (considering the actual time of leveling) and hardly with a better booster expense ratio. I confirm my findings :).
Mikan
05-06-2008, 02:25 PM
I want Katiechan's weed then..
1 +100%booster ~= 100-110k exp when done properly (can be topped to 150k but good luck with that).
44-50 is more than 3 million exp, you will need about 30 boosters.
I just leveled a char to 50 and I don't think it can be done any faster (considering the actual time of leveling) and hardly with a better booster expense ratio. I confirm my findings :).
Haha.
On my Barbarian in late 40s I was able to make half of a level on one booster (both on LV48 and LV49).
And on my Hunter in mid 40s I am able to make an entire level with around 3 boosters. :)
That's around 12-15 boosters total, and Marksman can do it easier than Hunter.
I want some of your weed. ;)
Regards.
_dracus_
05-06-2008, 02:35 PM
Haha.
On my Barbarian in late 40s I was able to make half of a level on one booster (both on LV48 and LV49).
And on my Hunter in mid 40s I am able to make an entire level with around 3 boosters. :)
That's around 12-15 boosters total, and Marksman can do it easier than Hunter.
I want some of your weed. ;)
Regards.
Maybe because barbs are leveling machine ...
magnet
05-06-2008, 04:32 PM
Haha.
On my Barbarian in late 40s I was able to make half of a level on one booster (both on LV48 and LV49).
And on my Hunter in mid 40s I am able to make an entire level with around 3 boosters. :)
That's around 12-15 boosters total, and Marksman can do it easier than Hunter.
I want some of your weed. ;)
Regards.
And how slow would that be?
Mikan
05-06-2008, 11:02 PM
Maybe because barbs are leveling machine ...
And on my Hunter in mid 40s I am able to make an entire level with around 3 boosters. :)
And Hunters are not. :) In fact, I would consider them to be the second-worst class to level.
Conjuror >> Warlock >> Barbarian >> Marksman >> Hunter >> Knight
(Barbarian isn't easier than Warlock unless you have a Conjuror, because they rest every few mobs.)
And how slow would that be?
Slow? ...
In my opinion, it is incredibly fast. I can get about one level per day on any class in mid-to-high 40s.
Without boosters, it takes me about a week to do one level even with a Conjuror helping me.
That probably doesn't make sense, I know it's only 200% faster, but still it is true. I think it is primarily because even though you only level twice as fast, you only rest half as often as well.
Regards.
Angelwinged_Devil
05-07-2008, 12:06 PM
And Hunters are not. :) In fact, I would consider them to be the second-worst class to level.
Conjuror >> Warlock >> Barbarian >> Marksman >> Hunter >> Knight
sometimes I levelled faster than fellow conjurers :D
Lovele
05-07-2008, 07:13 PM
what are you saying? with marksman u can lvl non-stop.
Boger
05-08-2008, 04:29 AM
same with hunter :P
Mikan
05-08-2008, 05:49 AM
what are you saying? with marksman u can lvl non-stop.
same with hunter :P
Non-stop does not mean fast. They still take quite a while to kill the mob compared to Warlocks and Barbarians.
Actually, I find this to be the exact reason why archers require more scrolls to level. :)
Archers take especially long if you're trying not to take damage and/or save mana to avoid resting.
Regards.
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