Should Edge remove his sig?

[magnet]

Public poll.

EDIT: wrong forum :( should be in the Inn..

[kraetyz]

I like Edge's sig.

[BlooD]

In the spanish forums the maximun lines per signature are 3.

They banned a lot of people for that and a lot of people complained about how they didnt do it in the english forums.

The bans were maximun 1 day but it was a holocaust in the spanish forums with half of them banned.

[Pizdzius]

Both voting option don't suit me. I like creativity of Edge's sig

[-Edge-]

LMAO

I need a moment (by the way sadly I found out there is a 500 character maximum :()

[ArcticWolf]

I had 3 "line feeds" (the "\n" or "enter" key), but I got banned. MegriM uses a low res monitor, so your sig shouldn't exceed the 3 lines in 1024~784 pixels wide.

My sig was legal, but only in a starndard res monitor (that's 1280x1024). That's insane, I know. Nobody uses less than 1280 wide, we live in the 21st century! O.o

[Froste]

Nobody uses less than 1280 wide, we live in the 21st century! O.o

I do, 1152x864

[Pizdzius]

I have 1024

[misaccc]

sure why not:P

[-Edge-]

I use 1024

And OT the Sig stays, the day I get banned before Valorius is the day monkeys fly out my arse.

[Valorius]

the day I get banned before Valorius is the day monkeys fly out my arse.
Dude, you seem to be obsessed.

L E T...I T...G O.

What the hell do i have to do with your overly huge and obnoxious signature any way? It's not my fault that it offends others, and it's not my problem either...i don't have to look at it at all if i don't want to. There is an ignore feature. Perhaps if you don't like hearing my name so much, you should stop using it. And who said anything about banning you? Paranoid much?

Note to myself: do not view threads when not logged in, you have to see posts from players you have ignored.

[-Edge-]

Dude, you seem to be obsessed.

L E T...I T...G O.

What the hell do i have to do with your overly huge and obnoxious signature any way? It's not my fault that it offends others, and it's not my problem either...i don't have to look at it at all if i don't want to. There is an ignore feature. Perhaps if you don't like hearing my name so much, you should stop using it. And who said anything about banning you? Paranoid much?

Note to myself: do not view threads when not logged in, you have to see posts from players you have ignored.
That was just a pretty good figure of speech, you seemed like a fine example.

[Static_Fang]

I voted No, but my sig isnt bigger xD

No

[Envy]

I like it, and it's not too big at all. It just actually fills the space.

[ArcticWolf]

I have the sigs disabled, so I don't really care.

[theotherhiveking]

I have the sigs disabled, so I don't really care.
So, you dont know that i quoted you in my siggy :p

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Note to myself: do not view threads when not logged in, you have to see posts from players you have ignored.
HAHAHAHA what's hte point in ignoring then?

OT:
no, I just think he should decrease the font size

[Godofsilver]

HAHAHAHA what's hte point in ignoring then?
It cuts back on the flame wars (he doesn't see the response to his flame)

[Torg_Snowflake]

I voted yes, just beacause you'll eventually have to change it.

They'll add the rules here soon, and if you wanna post, you are gonna need to comply. Like we all did.

If it's up to me, I would prefer long sigs. But as long as it is partially forbiden, It's not fair.

[El_Naso]

I have to agree with most of the people here: you must change it, but that doesen´t mean you have to forget about it, you can still make a sig that fits the rules but remains yours. You are creative enough, you can pull it off.
:bangin:

[ArcticWolf]

Make several accounts and split your sig like I did (???)

[Panda_Bear]

I use 1024

And OT the Sig stays, the day I get banned before Valorius is the day monkeys fly out my arse.

I want to see monkeys now

Ps AND i want them now, "so remindes me of Bruce Almighty

[Smiley2k7]

It is big but funny to watch :lol:

[-Edge-]

Looks like Elrik ran out of things to post, stop being a stubborn ass mule :p

[Anpu]

What a stupid poll.
There is nor rule nor linit for signature. So no need to change it.
The only possible thing is if there are enough players who dont like size of his signature, to ask him to make it smaller. And still, his decision if he is going to change it or not. When they make such rule on English forums, AND announce it, then he should be banned if he didnt change or broke forum signature rule. That s how it works on any game forums.

[-Edge-]

In the future I would prefer a simple PM telling me if something bothers someone ;) But until now, I don't think a Signature hurt anyone.

[Smiley2k7]

In the future I would prefer a simple PM telling me if something bothers someone ;) But until now, I don't think a Signature hurt anyone.
You tell 'em and think of another Sig. :thumb:

[Torg_Snowflake]

What a stupid poll.
There is nor rule nor linit for signature. So no need to change it.
The only possible thing is if there are enough players who dont like size of his signature, to ask him to make it smaller. And still, his decision if he is going to change it or not. When they make such rule on English forums, AND announce it, then he should be banned if he didnt change or broke forum signature rule. That s how it works on any game forums.

Anpu. There is A LOT of rules concenrning that(inclusing that one), but they have been posted only in the spanish forums. We still don't know why...

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=2

[Lovele]

Well its a maximum character to make a sig. So you can't say its big and it's not over rules to have a big signature.

[Smiley2k7]

Anpu. There is A LOT of rules concenrning that(inclusing that one), but they have been posted only in the spanish forums. We still don't know why...

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=2
The maximum number of lines available for a signature is 3. I believe Edge's sig looks like 3 so therefore it must be 3 :lighten:

[-Edge-]

Well its a maximum character to make a sig. So you can't say its big and it's not over rules to have a big signature.
Thats also why I keep it like I want. If a signature bothers NGD, they can lower the max characters or disable enlarging text.

There is A LOT of rules concenrning that(inclusing that one), but they have been posted only in the spanish forums. We still don't know why...

I think the reason they added those rules was because they apparently annoyed MegriM, and the reason they haven't tackled the english part is quite clear I think, its the fact that the only moderator we see here is really Surak and occasionally niclam.

[Anpu]

Anpu. There is A LOT of rules concenrning that(inclusing that one), but they have been posted only in the spanish forums. We still don't know why...

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=2
Hey, I m aware that Spanish forums have rules, mods, and all important things for running it smoothly. But here there are no rules, no mods, nothing, and that is giving possibility all to act how they want to.

That link is in Spanish, not in English. I dont understand it. Simple. No rule in English.

Problem is that NGD might didnt have enough time to translate it here, so we can only help them by translating those rules they made and demand sticky and NGD confirmation they are valid ones.

If I would know Spanish, I would gladly translate all that. And using any of online translator would be nonsense. So, Xeph, Jpicon, and other Spanish players with English knowledge, if you are able to help in translation, cool. If not, well, we can only wait for rules to be posted by NGD, and till then Edge is not in obligation by "law" to change signature .

I understand that game is Argentinian, but they accepted also English part of community as part of game community by making them forums too, so there must be then translated important rules and announcements that are applied on Spanish forums (if they treat us same way as them).

Example again Eternal Lands: I had signature 10 px more than allowed, and next day my sig was changed by mod:
deleted pic, and written: "Violation of Rule 26: too big signature" (or whatever it was), and link on part "Rule 26" to topic about rules. Simple and fair. But since we dont have mods here, we can only report to admins, and they can act then. Ofc, when we get Forum rules.

[magnet]

As a matter of fact, rules concerning signatures exist since the beginning of the Internet (and the BBSes) and have even been formalized and made official by the RFC 1855 called "net etiquette" (RFCs being Internet standards). The document dates back from 1995 and is a code of conduct for each responsible netizen. It has been approved by the Internet Engineering Task Force, responsible for the management of most Internet related standards. It can be found here: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

As the name "etiquette" says, it is something expected out of politeness and decency, for the good of all the users. You are free to choose not to follow these rules just like you are free to burp in public and pee on someone's car if you wish (the later might get you into more problems depending the jurisdiction of your country).

On top of that, as previously stated by Torg, there are rules in these very forums limiting signatures to be on 3 lines at max resolution 1024x768. The fact that the English forums aren't moderated yet doesn't mean these rules don't exist here too.

[Torg_Snowflake]

Okay Okay, I`ll translate them after having a bath.

Where's mister ducky?

[Pizdzius]

:cuac: here you go

[-Edge-]

Maybe my sig is a cry for better moderation

[Torg_Snowflake]

Here ya all go:

Forum rules of Regnum Online.

Here are described the rules to coexist in the forum. Those who not comply, will get a warning and then a ban in case of repeating it.

For those actions of bad behaivior not listed in this rules, moderators will take action on their behalf.

These rules can and will be changed without previous notice.

* You cannot insult or verbally assault using direct words or modified versions of them.
* Neither can you send obscene images, nor ones that might affect other users' senisibility. You also can't post links to adult sites.
* Messages or replies must have content relevant to the topic at hand.
* Repeated topics will be edited and/or closed by moderators.
* Private discussions between users must be done in the forum's private message system.
* You cannot link to illegal programs or pages.
* No discrimination based on race, religion, gender, or any kind is allowed.
* Signatures cannot have images of any kind (GIF, Flash, etc). They also must comply to the previous rules, including text and links. Max line number is 3 ((Added by me: in other post they pointed out that's 3 lines in the standart size. If you increase size you can use less lines)).
* Messages not related to the game, or without content, must be posted in "The inn" forum.
* Messages sent to "The inn" or "Images" wont add to the counter.

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I ask any english speaker to please do some corrections where needed.

[ArcticWolf]

If I would know Spanish, I would gladly translate all that. And using any of online translator would be nonsense. So, Xeph, Jpicon, and other Spanish players with English knowledge, if you are able to help in translation, cool. If not, well, we can only wait for rules to be posted by NGD, and till then Edge is not in obligation by "law" to change signature .


I don't get payed by NGD and it's not my responsibility. NGD should do that, not us.


@Torg:

You posted: * Messages sent to "The inn" or "Images" wont raise the counter.
I would say: * Messages sent to "The inn" or "Images" wont add to the counter.

[Valorius]

As a matter of fact, rules concerning signatures exist since the beginning of the Internet (and the BBSes) and have even been formalized and made official by the RFC 1855 called "net etiquette" (RFCs being Internet standards). The document dates back from 1995 and is a code of conduct for each responsible netizen. It has been approved by the Internet Engineering Task Force, responsible for the management of most Internet related standards. It can be found here: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html
Fuck them and their rules i say. Seriously.

[Anpu]

I don't get payed by NGD and it's not my responsibility. NGD should do that, not us.

I just asked if you are able to do it, you dont have to, ofc.
I know how hard can be when you have small dev team, who cant handle all in same time. Thats why community can help. (again, like in Eternal Lands, 3 people are developers, community is helping all the rest, if they want ofc).

Thanks Torg a lot!

[Static_Fang]

Fuck them and their rules i say. Seriously.

You want to rape the rules? o.O HOW is that possible?

[kraetyz]

You want to rape the rules? o.O HOW is that possible?

You grab a rulebook, then you
CENCORED
and ta-da, rule-raping.

[Static_Fang]

Edge, you sig is find till told otherwise i wana be in it with the charge with you, V&E all the way! (i care for the whole of Ignis, and some of the 2 other realms, dont hit me xD)

[-Edge-]

Yea I cut it down to the first sig I ever used...

But I can't say it won't grow over time...... :wink:

[Static_Fang]

Yea I cut it down to the first sig I ever used...

But I can't say it won't grow over time...... :wink:

I hope so, i liked the style of writing :)

[Pizdzius]

Yea I cut it down to the first sig I ever used...

But I can't say it won't grow over time...... :wink:

NO LINK TO MAH PAIGE!? bastard. ;)

[Static_Fang]

NO LINK TO MAH PAIGE!? bastard. ;)

Some-ones in trouble now xD

[-Edge-]

NO LINK TO MAH PAIGE!? bastard. ;)
Coming up Jedi Master Pizd

[MegaManL]

My vote? No

Why? Many reasons...
- There's no rule against it posted in English, in either section of the forums. I'd question whether they could legally hold you to a rule which you can't read.
- There is a character limit on signatures. If he can make a signature that fits within the limits that have been set, then it must be presumed allowed. (especially taking into account the previous point)
- I have yet to see massive public outcry about his signature, or anyone else's for that matter.

More reasons coming after I get some sleep... if I can be bothered looking at this thread again that is.

I see it as rather impolite to make a thread about this subject without first going to Edge about it in a private message.
It makes you look rather two-faced when you start linking net ettiquette (netiquette) standards after failing to take up the subject with Edge in private.
As for posting netiquette links, the fact that it's in a post halfway through the thread instead of your first post makes it look very much like you just googled it as a complete afterthought and may not actually care about it anyway.

[Pizdzius]

Much much better ;). I actually like the under construction thing :D
;*~ I'll miss you Edge
but the thing you're leaving doesn't mean you're not gonna write more script

[magnet]

My vote? No

Why? Many reasons...
- There's no rule against it posted in English, in either section of the forums. I'd question whether they could legally hold you to a rule which you can't read.
- There is a character limit on signatures. If he can make a signature that fits within the limits that have been set, then it must be presumed allowed. (especially taking into account the previous point)
- I have yet to see massive public outcry about his signature, or anyone else's for that matter.

More reasons coming after I get some sleep... if I can be bothered looking at this thread again that is.

I see it as rather impolite to make a thread about this subject without first going to Edge about it in a private message.
It makes you look rather two-faced when you start linking net ettiquette (netiquette) standards after failing to take up the subject with Edge in private.
As for posting netiquette links, the fact that it's in a post halfway through the thread instead of your first post makes it look very much like you just googled it as a complete afterthought and may not actually care about it anyway.

ROFL.

1) I know Edge pretty well, thank you. He even gave me good karma for the thread so :).
2) Googling netiquette, hahaha. I have been network admins as a part-time job during my studies for years in the past, I have ran game servers and IRC networks as hobbies, and my first "Web" session dates back to 92 when I was 9. I grown with the first-gen Web. Trust me, I've known the net etiquette since it was first created. You see, there was a time when people were actually told about it. It's not like you could post to usenet without knowing it (or be flamed) anyway.

PS: check the date at the bottom of the page: http://www.epiknet.org/docs/charteml.asp (this is an IRC network I left 4 years ago)

[Torg_Snowflake]

Even with all these conversation we are having.
An with all the conclusions we might come down to.
Only one thing is gonna happen.

Someone will anwser NGD's add looking for a comunity director for the english section. He will translate the rules oficially. All of you will change your sigs. Maybe some will play stubborn and stay banned for a while, but in the end you'll all comply.

Mmm, I could play a villian:bangin: .

[ArcticWolf]

Too bad I'm not the community director of the english forum... :(

[Pizdzius]

Even with all these conversation we are having.
An with all the conclusions we might come down to.
Only one thing is gonna happen.

Someone will anwser NGD's add looking for a comunity director for the english section. He will translate the rules oficially. All of you will change your sigs. Maybe some will play stubborn and stay banned for a while, but in the end you'll all comply.

Mmm, I could play a villian:bangin: .

but my sig is ok? /me whimpers

[Static_Fang]

but my sig is ok? /me whimpers

Your the comic master, yours will be fine as long as it doesnt take up over 6 lines, a page or size of three posts. Oh, and no offensive materials ;)

[Torg_Snowflake]

Actually Piz, yes. You only need to move the elf-smiley.

Warm Unicorn of CBA (Smiley) Pizdzius Swedzioszek
http://regnum-cba.tk/ <- my Regnum Comic RSS version -> http://regnumcba.blox.pl

Like that it would be perfect and only take 2 lines.

[Pizdzius]

Actually Piz, yes. You only need to move the elf-smiley.

Warm Unicorn of CBA (Smiley) Pizdzius Swedzioszek
http://regnum-cba.tk/ <- my Regnum Comic RSS version -> http://regnumcba.blox.pl

Like that it would be perfect and only take 2 lines.

But this way it's aesthetic

[Static_Fang]

But this way it's aesthetic

Have it the same, but put the :piz: inbetween your first and last game name :p

3 lines :thumb:

[Pizdzius]

Have it the same, but put the :piz: inbetween your first and last game name :p

3 lines :thumb:

if I get banned for something like this, then I AM leaving the game ^^

[Envy]

Is my sig the new biggest? o_o

I made it smaller on reading this thread.. But am gutted that Edge caved to this peer pressure too.

[Pizdzius]

I think Trix has the biggest

[-Edge-]

But am gutted that Edge caved to this peer pressure too.
Hell no! I shorted it because im not playing anymore pt :eguitar:

PLus I hit the max characters in a sig (500 Maximum unfortunatly)

[Static_Fang]

Hell no! I shorted it because im not playing anymore pt :eguitar:

PLus I hit the max characters in a sig (500 Maximum unfortunatly)

How did u manage that? On a sig?????????????????????????????????????????? :eek24:

[Angel_de_Combate]

I use 1024

And OT the Sig stays, the day I get banned before Valorius is the day monkeys fly out my arse.

PWNED !! I think the sig stays !!

[Torg_Snowflake]

Hahaha me won!

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=24159

[ArcticWolf]

Edgey, we told you this could happen :P

[El_Naso]

Hmm maybe you could post the sig as it was before? It was nice, and... I wanna see if I can reduce it somehow :D

[-Edge-]

Hmm maybe you could post the sig as it was before? It was nice, and... I wanna see if I can reduce it somehow :D
Mmm I think I will do that actually