Concerning the last update...

[DemonMonger]

THIS IS SO BOGUS>> MY thread got moved to the inn and i was talking about game issues!

well as i was saying


from lvl 1 to lvl 50
playing 3 hours a day at full xp... without anyone attacking your mosnters draining the xp points away...

it will take a total of 346 days at 3 hours a day each...
the maths been done...

if people ks you .. it can take 2 years or longer to get lvl 50 from lvl 1 playing flawlessly.... perfectly.. killing 1 monster every 30 seconds.. no breaks...

DONT MOVE MY THREAD ITS ABOUT REGNUM AND GAME ISSUES!

http://regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23537
link to last thread

[Godofsilver]

The scroll of mastery allows you to get from level 1 to level 30 in a few secs... but it's 24,000 Xym.

I'm thinking more like ONE year (or less), but not two.

[DemonMonger]

The scroll of mastery allows you to get from level 1 to level 30 in a few secs... but it's 24,000 Xym.

I'm thinking more like ONE year (or less), but not two.


they moved my thread im still pissed about that.. trying to hide the truth?
General discussion Topics related to all aspects of Regnum Online.

im saying if people dont buy premium god of silver...
and even if you have premium... and get lvl 30... people will still attack your monsters lowering the total xp output... per time spent...

[Godofsilver]

Oh. Without premium...
Ok.


EDIT:
is quest xp affected by fatigue?

[DemonMonger]

:clapping5365: Oh. Without premium...
Ok.


EDIT:
is quest xp affected by fatigue?

Only god would know.... heaven forbid it is....

i just want to say .. thank you ngd for cutting out ballz off...
and sewing up our ginas....:clapping5365:

this is a great way to be productive... and grow in numbers!
... actually its a nice way to level off maximum users.. only those lvl 50 and above that are not xim will stay... one by one.. those that are not and cannot get xim yet... will leave.. and their friends.. the only reason they are playing.. will leave as well... This game has spread by word of mouth.. and will die by word of mouth...

NO TO FATIGUE!!! NO TO FATIGUE!!!!

[Inkster]

I'm not going to post my opinions about the new update after playing today for a very short time as it would probably end up in me getting banned.

Suffice to say im not impressed at all

[Envy]

Gah I posted in the other thread by Sathilda, I'll copypasta it..

Well, I have a lvl 50 and now don't plan on getting another char up because of the update. So the exp thing wont affect me so much.

What annoys is that people are being backed into a corner to buy premium for the exp scrolls when the game has the bugs it has. Negative incentives to buy premium should be for a game that's at 100%. I don't know why they were in such a rush to implement the fatigue system, they could have atleast just implemented the -35% global exp first. But they've piled both of these negative things pushing people to buy xim, before any benefit that I can see. The update doesnt make me want to uses xim on my other characters, it makes me never want to lvl another character, and to never purchase xim again.

Now, the WZ is indeed affected by premium. The difference in time it'll take you to get to 50 with and without xim is huge. And higher lvl means better spells, equipment, and stats.

The alt + tab bug (alt tab from full screen game and you'll crash trying to come back) just made my frustration worse. Feeling that people are backed into a corner to buy premium when I'm face first with a bug so often.

If all the things that hit me today would have come gradually I wouldn't have been so annoyed, if bugs were ironed out before the xim pushing, if we were used to the exp drop before fatigue. It's just the whole lot being dumped on me that just rubs me up the wrong way.

[DemonMonger]

I'm not going to post my opinions about the new update after playing today for a very short time as it would probably end up in me getting banned.

Suffice to say im not impressed at all

indeed... but silence is just like banning yourself mentally.. speak out and make change happen.. We are the voice of regnum! We are the voice for those who will be in game to make the game worth playing... if 50% of users leave due to fatigue.. or lack of chance to get lvl 50 anytime soon... there will be no one left to kill.... 7 people here and there.. if we are lucky...

[sathilda]

I'm not going to post my opinions about the new update after playing today for a very short time as it would probably end up in me getting banned.

Suffice to say im not impressed at all

Same here, just censoring myself... just good luck for you goats, because now all syrtis is at war... even us in Ignis are outnumbered now !

[DemonMonger]

Same here, just censoring myself... just good luck for you goats, because now all syrtis is at war... even us in Ignis are outnumbered now !
when you are silent about change.. it becomes permanent... then .. after so long.. people think its normal.. ..... this is the same way many people died in germany.... censoring themselves to step by step totalitarian rule... who knows.. i may get shot down... but at least im speaking up for the little guy who doesnt know how.. or can't speak up for him or her self... I have the games best interest at heart when i tell you things....

I feel like its an uphill battle... and I'm shoving a giant ice boulder uphill.. and each time bad stuff like this happens.. more rain and snow stick to it making it heavier and heavier...

I want regnum to succeed... I've promoted it since day 1 on G4 TV in various other games... (brought over many runescape players, wow players, sfront players, knightonline players, ghost recon players, CoD players, Xfire users (because they saw the link posted on my page) Friends , random people I met on the street... EVERYONE... I don't want this to die ... and we all know...

GREED KILLS

greed.. kills.. there is more than one way to skin a cat.. there are many ways to make this game grow... but many more ways to make it fade away and never make the history books

[Inkster]

Ok, i shall give you my opinions a bit later on when i have calmed down enough to put them in a polite and constructive manner, as at this moment in time i am absolutely furious.

Already we have lost 3 members of our clan who have decided not to play anymore due to this update.

[hymak]

is quest xp affected by fatigue?


if it is, i would do all of the requirements of the quest except the last step (talk to so and so). then the first thing i would do when i logged the next time is do the final step to get full xp....etc.

[DemonMonger]

if it is, i would do all of the requirements of the quest except the last step (talk to so and so). then the first thing i would do when i logged the next time is do the final step to get full xp....etc.

good idea..... but then ... what will they do.. lower all quest xp?
or allow so many quests per day? god only knows..

[DemonMonger]

Ok, i shall give you my opinions a bit later on when i have calmed down enough to put them in a polite and constructive manner, as at this moment in time i am absolutely furious.

Already we have lost 3 members of our clan who have decided not to play anymore due to this update.
ive heard from 50 + people that said they wont play anymore... they are just online to talk about how they hate the changes... bring them all here...

[Godofsilver]

Niclaim responded to your thread in the Inn...

[DemonMonger]

Niclaim responded to your thread in the Inn...
yea and its crap....

who does all teh testing.. players like us... we report whats wrong... what do we get... NOTHING... we lose our items... and never get them back... we spend countless hours testing..... and nothing... I personally jumped each time they needed me... helped them fix speed hack... and i had 1 problem.. was ignored.. maybe i need to speak spanish... like the balance team members... funny though that they hear all that they want to hear...

i cant save them from themselves...

[hymak]

reading the changelog, it says something to the effect of ....xp gained from killing monsters is reduced', it doesnt mention quest xp.

[Valorius]

So far the only difference i've noticed is even more lag than before. That's definitely not good.

[DemonMonger]

So far the only difference i've noticed is even more lag than before. That's definitely not good.
go kill something.. lvl 55+ monster give 200 xp now...

[Valorius]

go kill something.. lvl 55+ monster give 200 xp now...
What did they give before?

[hymak]

the quests i did weren't affected by fatigue.

[Envy]

go kill something.. lvl 55+ monster give 200 xp now...

Fatigue: Stage 1

Aquantis Knight

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/SeriousWB/FatigueStage1.jpg

[Aries202]

guess why my warlock paused at lvl 48 :) i had time to get to lvl 50 sure but since i quit and came back i dont even get on not even on alsius...all you can do now is war...but that gets boring after a while, so people is gonna want to train..OH WAIT.. i forgot i only get 50 xp per mob...

[Hydroxidee]

I'd like to post something that Ive had a convo with on Xfire=

Asreall: me and lady both agreed that we doubt this will last long
Asreall: cuz everyone was roaring at surak
sparticus: good
Asreall: complaining about fatigue and the exp curve
Asreall: as did i
Asreall: and pell ;D
sparticus: good
sparticus: keep hounding him
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Sparticus is a level 50, he has 2 other characters he is leveling tho. ITS AFFECTING EVERYONE!!! The fatigue is stupid. It should be taken out along with the stupid experience curve.

[mann2411]

i just think the whole instant lvl 30 is rediculous we're gonna have noobs in the wz who have absolutly no experience in the wz have no idea what they are doing i swear we're gonna have people going excuse me how do i attack? its rediculous now look at a person who is lvlling every day to get to lvl 30

why is it that the ones that can pay are given the easy way yet people like me who have been playing this game since beta and have been with this game for a long time who can't play are screwed? its just unfair and rediculous.

[Ironfoot]

i just think the whole instant lvl 30 is rediculous we're gonna have noobs in the wz who have absolutly no experience in the wz have no idea what they are doing i swear we're gonna have people going excuse me how do i attack? its rediculous now look at a person who is lvlling every day to get to lvl 30

why is it that the ones that can pay are given the easy way yet people like me who have been playing this game since beta and have been with this game for a long time who can't play are screwed? its just unfair and rediculous.

the way life is unfair, and sometimes, ridiculous.
im also from beta, and i dont feel screwed.

[mann2411]

soooo you like the fact that you can only lvl for 3 hours and you have reduced xp? still i feel screwed because it becomes physically impossible for me to get xim and physically impossible to play regnum anymore

[Pizdzius]

I would love to see 200% exp scroll for 2k xims, it's too expensive atm

[Inkster]

People wanted my opinions on the new update so here it goes (Remember this is only my opinions NGD so dont do something like ban me for speaking)

Point 1: Ill start with this quote:


For starters, this is not only a commercial subject but a matter of social responsability. We recommend that nobody plays more than
6 hours a day and that every 2 hours a break is taken, as for any other videogame.


Now from the changelog we have this:

Gameplay
- New: Fatigue. After being connected for several hours, experience received by killing monsters is reduced (after 3 hours = reduced by 50%, after 6 hours = reduced by 100%). Fatigue is reset daily. Fatigue doesn't affect active experience scrolls nor does affect realm points.

To me this reads we are concerned about our social responsibilities to the end users unless you buy a premium scroll, then you can play as long as you want without anymore loss of xp apart from the new experience curve drop
Or could this mean you are concerned about the health of people who can't or wont buy Xim but don't give a shit about people who do???


Point 2: NGD you are selling a product, But your product is incredibly faulty. I am not prepared to pay for something with so many flaws. This new update brought for me even more lag, and a new feature - regular crashes

Point3: the new fatigue will cause people to leave the game, as i already stated, 3 people have left our clan and deleted their characters - these people would have been buying premium at lvl 50 for the warzone (paints, horses etc.)
you have lost 3 customers there - every person who has left this game due to your updates was a potential paying customer - think about that

Point4: I have already said this elsewhere for me, you have taken away the one thing i enjoyed doing in the game apart from talking to my friends here - hunting. Due to lag, fortwars are not fun for me, PvP's i do not enjoy so hunting was my only option.
I don't know about other people but i don't really like the idea of hunting peope - most of whom are trying to lvl in the knowledge that ill be taking away precious time from their 3 hours alloted grinding allowance with the added insult they have of less xp per mob.

Point5: You have forced people to pay for this faulty product to do what exactly in the warzone? read my points in point 4. THE GAME LACKS CONTENT AT LVL 50

Point6: One developer once said to me 'This is just a game'. This is very true but remember this, the game became a community, This commuinity is not happy.
You could have a perfect game but if no one plays it whats the point? The home page states i shall highlight the most relevant parts:

Regnum Online is a MMORPG inviting you to PLAY FOR FREE with no level or time restrictions. All that is required is that you fight for your realm.

- Regnum offers 3 realms to choose from.
- 9 fully customizable player characters.
- An ever expanding number of quests.
- The ability to capture forts and castles.
- Expansive lands to explore.
- Glorious graphical environments in DirectX and OpenGL.
- Support for Windows and Linux platforms.
- Community driven development, meaning we develop the game based on players' feedback.
- Premium content is available for enhanced game play.

This text is now incorrect you are now mis selling your product there is indeed time restrictions now. You state this game is community driven - prove it, remove what you have done, no one appears to like some of the new features

In closing, i urge players not to scream at Surak for these changes - he is a programmer not from NGD's finance department. I suggest everyone contact the person from there, Details can be found from this link http://www.ngdstudios.com.ar/



Im sorry NGD but you have ruined this game for me and a lot of others

-Ink

[Twinkle1]

well on this one i feel the same as inky does.
with the lower xp for mobs and the 3hr shyte dropping my xp down to 50% then on to nothing,it sucks and bad.
I don't think i can hunt as a lot of the people we hunt are probably leveling and i for one cant kill someone when i know that they are doing it time based.
id feel like a right bitch for killing them, and that takes away the fun for me.
so i cant lvl
i cant hunt as i am used to
lag is to bad to fort fight i get froze out and have to reboot pc most of the time.
i could possibly live with the loss of base xp but with the fatigue system in place its just to much.
I for one WILL NOT be playing at the moment, i will give NGD a chance to come good and turn back what they have done, but for now its good bye.
take care everyone :(
Twinkle/ Blu Arrow

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

[cut but agreed]
Im sorry NGD but you have ruined this game for me and a lot of others


Well, very good written post Ink, 100% agree.
And i can only add - they wanted more Xim to be purchased, we should give them less Xim purchased. IMHO it's the best and only way.
I can only sadly say that when I finaly found the game i liked, it just has beed screwed up. Time to get back to search AGAIN.:(

[fluffy_muffin]

I don't think i can hunt as a lot of the people we hunt are probably leveling and i for one cant kill someone when i know that they are doing it time based.

True. Warlock killed today at Imperia beach was probably the last one killed by me while lvling. Now i have new setup and i will hunt... in other way :P
This sytem sucks, it could work as premium scroll but this way is not good for NGD. Less players = less xim. Not happy players = sad NDG

[ementh]

In closing, i urge players not to scream at Surak for these changes - he is a programmer not from NGD's finance department. I suggest everyone contact the person from there, Details can be found from this link http://www.ngdstudios.com.ar/



Im sorry NGD but you have ruined this game for me and a lot of others

-Ink

Inkster.......I have already emailed the contact and expressed my distaste (in a professional manner for those of you who think cussing and flaming will work - please don't do it). Thanks for pointing this out Ink....if we all contact NGD corporate we may get a change.

The problem I see here is that one word gets out and all the Linux-based forums that support this game start getting "flame" threads about the game - people will stop coming to play...

This is a sad, sad day...

[DemonMonger]

this is forcing people to play hard for 3 hours no breaks .... how's that good for their health... gonna give people heart attacks from stress... and make people get pissed about ksing....

[n7zzt]

In closing, i urge players not to scream at Surak for these changes - he is a programmer not from NGD's finance department. I suggest everyone contact the person from there, Details can be found from this link http://www.ngdstudios.com.ar/



Im sorry NGD but you have ruined this game for me and a lot of others

-Ink

good point all around Ink....

I was going to try and refute their entire post in the "where are we going for 2008" thread, but decided against it (too emotionally involved).

we can all vote with our machines (and our wallets). they want support from us, they really need to listen to us. we are their bread and butter here.

NGD, I met some fine people on here and made a lot of new friends. I liked the game as it was (except for the bugs that you guys apparently haven't fixed). There are very few linux based MMORPG's. you were one of the few (3 actually). thanks a lot guys, you spoiled it for me.

[DemonMonger]

good point all around Ink....

I was going to try and refute their entire post in the "where are we going for 2008" thread, but decided against it (too emotionally involved).

we can all vote with our machines (and our wallets). they want support from us, they really need to listen to us. we are their bread and butter here.

NGD, I met some fine people on here and made a lot of new friends. I liked the game as it was (except for the bugs that you guys apparently haven't fixed). There are very few linux based MMORPG's. you were one of the few (3 actually). thanks a lot guys, you spoiled it for me.
http://regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23584

[Anpu]

this is forcing people to play hard for 3 hours no breaks .... how's that good for their health... gonna give people heart attacks from stress... and make people get pissed about ksing....
Yea, this is first case where some company pays attention on health of regular users rather than premium ones. Because, as we all know, when you are using XP scroll, there is no Fatigue, so they can play whole day. :) And that is bad for health, right?

[n7zzt]

Yea, this is first case where some company pays attention on health of regular users rather than premium ones. Because, as we all know, when you are using XP scroll, there is no Fatigue, so they can play whole day. :) And that is bad for health, right?

I think you missed it.....
the only reason to impose a "fatigue system" is because there are just too many users on the server at any given time. by reducing users, the demand on resources can be consequently reduced. It has nothing to do with the health of the players (in as much as you would wish it to be).

[Envy]

I think you missed it.....
the only reason to impose a "fatigue system" is because there are just too many users on the server at any given time. by reducing users, the demand on resources can be consequently reduced. It has nothing to do with the health of the players (in as much as you would wish it to be).

Nope, he is going from the 2008 thread and what it said:

For starters, this is not only a commercial subject but a matter of social responsability. We recommend that nobody plays more than 6 hours a day and that every 2 hours a break is taken, as for any other videogame.

[Valorius]

I think you missed it.....
the only reason to impose a "fatigue system" is because there are just too many users on the server at any given time. by reducing users, the demand on resources can be consequently reduced. It has nothing to do with the health of the players (in as much as you would wish it to be).
That's the first reasonable explanation for fatigue i've seen yet. By anyone.

Good observation.

[hymak]

this is forcing people to play hard for 3 hours no breaks .... how's that good for their health... gonna give people heart attacks from stress... and make people get pissed about ksing....


if you log out, your 3 hr timer appears to stop counting and begins again once you relog. no one is forcing you to stay logged on for 3 hrs with no breaks.