New English speaking international server!

[Adrian]

Hi Community,

Given the growth our game’s community is having and with the eagerness of giving a better service and appeal a larger quantity of players, we have decided to open a new international server with a different focus.

The idea is that this server has English as its primary language. This will allow new English speaking users not to be “scared” of seeing that most of the other users are speaking in another language.

We have no intention of separating the community, but to allow users who prefer a friendlier environment regarding in-game used language.

To ensure that the population of the game is English speaking, this new server will be only accessible for users from non Ibero or Latin American countries for an initial period of time. A new server implies the opportunity to start again, a new life of adventures in Regnum Online. We hope that actual English speaking users help us populate this new world calling friends and speaking well of our game. The launch of this new server will be on Tuesday August 5, 2008.

Regards,

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Nice move, but I just don't want to level again >_<

[CumeriTarenes]

I dunno if this is good or bad.

I just worry about Ra, that will have a constantly decreasing number of english speaking players in the future. There will be more players that stop to play than new ones I guess because all new english players will join the new server.

However, I wish you good luck with this step and I hope it won't seperate the community that much.

PS: A good thing to attract players to a new server is to give bonus xp the first week or so ;)

[Signatus]

I understand this decision but... AGUANTE COMUNIDAD IBERO-LATINO AMERICANA!!!

Anyway, is there the possibility of accounts migration between Ra and the new server? (it's a rhetorical question I suspect, but please clarify Kailer)

The point is, I already have money invested, and even if I fancy the idea of getting on this new server I want to know if there are mechanisms to ensure that I don't loose my previous spending.

Either a strict migration (account deleted on Ra and a copy made on the new server) or dual log in possibility (on both servers) would provide, at least, a reasonable base of discussion on the issue.

To ensure that the population of the game is English speaking, this new server will be only accessible for users from non Ibero or Latin American countries for an initial period of time.

Not sure I understood. Are you denying access to South and Central America users or to those AND Spanish and Portuguese users?

[Adrian]

Not sure I understood. Are you denying access to South and Central America users or to those AND Spanish and Portuguese users?

Yes, for two months. Then, anyone in any country in the world will be able to access this server. This is only to ensure that the initial community is English speaking.

Regards,

[Comp]

Nice.....but I don't want to level again....going to 50 with the current fatigure, etc....isn't for me. I'd like to go there...but the leveling...GAH!

[Inkster]

Nice idea but i wont be going there i like the community on RA and i also dont want to start again.

(besides im starting to learn a bit of spanish by playing this)

[-Edge-]

This is a very big move indeed,

but Kailer I would like to know if there will be the possibility of being able to not have to start over again, if there will not be a possibility like that, then any new English speaking players will go to the new server, meaning whats left on Ra will die out over time.

[Wyatt]

Nice Ngd!

I just want to ask a question.

Would it be possible to migrate your characters from Ra to the new server? I would want to move to that new server probably, but would not like to start from scratch.

Is it possible to copy Ra database to the new server? that way the users on Ra that want to play on that server dont have to start from scratch there(Take it as a suggestion).


This new server will probably decrease the english users we get on Ra.

Anyways, keep it up NGD, your doing a great job!

PD: What will the server be called?

[GIGO305]

:ohill: ill miss u howdys. i got a few questions....

1 will their be dual log? as in i have my conju lvl 47 in one AND the other, or ill have to make new accounts.

2 will there be a inter server chatting system supose i can see friends online in another server any time in the future if posible?

3 WHAT WILL US BILINGUAL PLAYERS DO!?!?!?!?!?!?! we depend on the diversity and i cant chooose.

4 what will happen to the clans?

:ohill: WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cant we just make muspell international....IDK WHERE TO GO EVERY ONE HATES ME NOW!!! what will ppl like me do? stop playing RO we are stuck with no home, was there any intention to isolate bilingual users that cant pick its a hard chooise what will we do!?!

[misaccc]

nice move...but all that leveling,the people i know here...i wont move

[Mattdoesrock]

Well I for one wont be moving.

RA is home for me :)

[theotherhiveking]

message for Znurre and the others in the Valhalla clan.. Tell me you WONT move to the new server T_T

[CHeesE_13]

im not moving..
unless i dont have to start over..
ive spent alil over 100 dollars on this game..
and im not going to start over and just lose 100 dollars..

[S_N_I_P_E_R]

Sorry NGD I can see why you are doing this but I for one will not move to this new server, I have made many friends on Ra and spent way too much money to start all over again. I mean come on my 1st grad is on 3/8/08 and two days later your bringing out another server to start all over again...

Well you have my veiw and by the looks of this thread already I can see many others feel the same!!

[BlooD]

Well at least this will work will all that players who cant see spanish in their games and command us to talk english all the time.

I doubt much people will move there, at least not if they cant move their pjs from ra with them.


3 WHAT WILL US BILINGUAL PLAYERS DO!?!?!?!?!?!?! we depend on the diversity and i cant chooose.

You what?

[Eli2]

Starting over again, with the new mob distribution, 10% fix, fatigue, new experience curve ...
NO WAY! :no:
If i want to grind i rather play Diablo2(/3 when it comes out) its just a lot more fun.

[sathilda]

NGD, i hope that for those who wants to move, you will allow to transfer their chars. Or you take the risk that this server will become a new Niflheim, less than 250 players 24/7, 70% of them syrtian (realm population is really a problem there) and fort wars only on evening.

There is even a "Save Niflheim" thread on gamigo forums ;)

I won't move anyway, i'm French, Spanish is more "friendly" than English :p

[Archangel7]

I think is bad and good in a way , but most of us english users
already have their account in Ra* International, i believe you should
atleast consider to let the current user of Ra* to migrate to the new
server, if that possible i would be more more then happy.

[Malik2]

A few questions:

So, if I log onto this new servier will I need to make a new character to play there or can I log on with my currrent?

Will clans also be seperate?

[Signatus]

Yes, for two months. Then, anyone in any country in the world will be able to access this server. This is only to ensure that the initial community is English speaking.

Regards,

Interesting to say the least.

I won't make a fuss about this because NGD is using the language differences to justify it, but it's at least a questionable issue. London is closer to Lisbon then any other capital, except Madrid (but not by much, but even then I rather go to Barcelona)...

I was going to start a discussion about how Portugal and Spain have obvious influences in Central and South America but only to acknowledge that language is part of a culture and that culture is, as always have been, European.

But the matter at hands doesn't justify it, it's a decision made by a private company. Good luck with it.

Che, suerte! ;)

[padreigh]

No bloody way i lvl 150lvls again. NO.

[Twinkle1]

Nice idear NGD but i dont think i will be using it for a cupple of resons, although i understand the reasoning for this move.
I dont want to start from scratch lvl ing char's i have spent hours grinding.
I also like the comunity on Ra and have made many freinds internationaly and enjoy playing with them ( including enemy ) :biggrin:
could be an idea to offer people a char move to new server.

It may also be an idear to maybe have the servers as is for realms and add a new one for war zone linking all other servers to warzone server.
in this way all the worlds comunitys would be playing one game together as should be.
and each new server you add can be dedicated to a spacific language, giving everyone a friendly place to start from.
or even a seperate server for each realm with a war zone server linked .
the genral census at the moment is that very few people will swap so it will be pretty empty except for the new people starting on it .

Question:
Does this mean that the english part of the forum on Ra will stay or be taken off to be put on the new server ?

[backe]

It's a bit late now, isn't it?

Oh well....I will say the only way I'm going to move (considering fatigue) is if they mirror accounts over to the new server, which will never happen, so I guess I'm on Ra forever.

My question is what is going to happen to the english speaking community that have been on Ra since the beginning? Why would you alienate the english speaking player base that has stood by NGD for so long? With this change, I can't see why any new english-speaking players would bother to join Ra, thus dooming the english speakers on this to a forever dying community.

I suppose I feel a bit like a dinosaur at this point....but hey, that's progress:ohill:

[Adrian]

Hi Community,

The Ra English community will not be modified or alienated at all. Everything will be as usual. The new server will also use this forums, so there will be no changes at all. There will only be new users to come with this new world.

Regards,

[Valour]

Hi Community,

The Ra English community will not be modified or alienated at all. Everything will be as usual. The new server will also use this forums, so there will be no changes at all. There will only be new users to come with this new world.

Regards,

Nice to see a new server but I hope that it doesn't stop more English people like myself to look into playing Ra, it's nice to speak to someone from your home, though I enjoy speaking to anyone.

I wont be levelling more chars, i've worked hard on my current ones ^^

[phoenix_jackson]

Hmmmm...... Please don't flame me.

With my little experience with some spanish speaking people, I find this new server more attractive. First, they don't talk to me if I speak english. They don't even talk to me when I speak some broken spanish. Not even an effort to try to understand. As I would hope that they could give it a shot as we try to understand Gigo's english (which I find enigmatic sometimes). Then the fact that I am mostly left alone when I try to join them in hunting. I already pressumed that it's because of my inability to understand their language. Little things more but finally, there was a post about english speakers forcing others to speak english. Even to the extent of claiming that RO was based on the spanish community, hence; we are forced to learn the language.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the fact that I slowly learn another language. That part was fun. But as I said, I am forced to speak the language inorder to deal with the little time of gameplay I do everyday.

True, we have made friends and strong bonds in RA. Won't we have the same on the new server? True, I might lose from my clan in RA. That alone is painful to me. True we have to start over. Sometimes it is good because some people tend to create alter chars out of boredom from grinding. And won't we all end up the same? True, some people have spent a lot of money. That, I can't refute.

An upside, if the new server launches, most english speaking new-comers (people call them "noobs") will go there. That means lesser stress for those who complain about noobs running around out of control. Good news to the experts and masters who don't remember they came from level 1.

[Godofsilver]

message for Znurre and the others in the Valhalla clan.. Tell me you WONT move to the new server T_T
I don't plan to move, but It's not like I have any level 50s to leave behind :sifflote:

[Valorius]

Nice.....but I don't want to level again....going to 50 with the current fatigure, etc....isn't for me. I'd like to go there...but the leveling...GAH!

No bloody way i lvl 150lvls again. NO.

Starting over again, with the new mob distribution, 10% fix, fatigue, new experience curve ...
NO WAY! :no:
If i want to grind i rather play Diablo2(/3 when it comes out) its just a lot more fun.

Agreed.

There is no way in hell i'm lvling a character to 50 under the current fatigue rules. The first time was bad enough.

If i can transfer my character, and those of my guild mates characters, sure- i would GLADLY switch over. But there's just no way in heck i'm going to lvl back to 50 all over again. (let alone trying to find all the items i've been lucky enough to get so far!)

IF NGD allows player characters to transfer to the new server i will go right away. If they don't, i will stay at RA until the english speaking community dies there, at which time i will simply stop playing.

[e30G]

This is progress indeed! Congratulations NGD in creating the new server. However, I wish you would allow account migration for the international users who are now at Ra. All you need to do is copy the existing characters into the server and each server would operate independently from each other so whatever you do with one character in one server won't affect the other character in the other (much like whatever you do to your character in Amun won't affect the one in Ra). Of course it would be nice if you would reset the RP scores in the new server so everyone will start with a relatively clean slate. :)

[Valorius]

I agree to resetting the RP counters as well, even though it would cost me about 148,000rp. Because of Syrtis beach save IMO RP has become utterly meaningless in RA now.

The key is account migration.

If we can transfer characters (and equipment- as is(or was?) the case on the XP server), this will be a GREAT GREAT thing. If not....i think it is a huge mistake as most players won't move, and all the new players will start at the new server. This will in effect kill off over time hundreds and hundreds of english speaking players.

[Wyatt]

I agree to resetting the RP counters as well, even though it would cost me about 148,000rp. Because of Syrtis beach save IMO RP has become utterly meaningless in RA now.

The key is account migration.

If we can transfer characters, this will be a GREAT GREAT thing. If not....i think it is a huge mistake as most players won't move, and all the new players will start at the new server. This will in effect kill off over time hundreds and hundreds of english speaking players.

I agree with you 100% percent!

I would love to migrate to that server as well, with my current characters and with my clan mates if possible.

The current english clans on Ra will probably grow even more slower now...and all the new english speakers will go to the new game server...

I would also accept the loss of my RP's just to have the chance to do this.

But, if its not possible then I am stuck on Ra.

[makarios68]

NGD, is there no chance at all you will change your mind and allow the transfer of existing characters into the new server?

Looking at the replies in this thread, it looks like a lot players will switch if they can transfer their chars and items.

And most won't switch if they can't transfer.

If we could transfer, I also will accept the loss of my RP's if the counter is restarted...

[Pizdzius]

This means total mess. New clans, new chars, the community will split up, not even in half.

Starting from scratch... doesn't sound good to everyone. It's a shame if we can't transfer

[backe]

Sorry Kailer, but I fail to see how asking us to move to a new server whilst in the process losing all of our gear and more importantly, experience (not to mention all of the Xim that some of us have purchased and already spent) would be considered anything other than alienating...

As I said before, I would move too if our accounts could be mirrored. Any possibility of this?

[Plover]

One of the nicest things about Ra for an english speaker is that you can communicate with people who would normally be alienated by distance and language. 2 years of high school spanish didn't have a use for me until RO, and my ability to speak it has improved a lot just from the international server. There's no way I'm switching, even if accounts are transferable. I have too many spanish speaking friends on Ra. The only positive thing I can see is that I'll be submerged in spanish by the time the english community dies on Ra. Perhaps I'll become fluent.

NGD please tell us more! I'm really hoping you have a system that will make this an acceptable idea to everybody with bilingual friends.

[e30G]

If we can not transfer then I propose you do the opposite. Make the new server a spanish speaking server. That way Ra will attract more english speakers while the new server will attract all the new spanish speaking members. Hopefully this won't split the community up.

[Valorius]

It boggles the mind that NGD wouldn't simply mirror the players.

Once the characters are copied over to the new server, the old RA account could then be deleted by NGD.

[UmarilsStillHere]

If th accounts dont get copyed over i can see more than 10% of the current english community moveing anywere... i dont exactly want to start over you can copy things to anum why not this server too?

Also i worry about the impact initialy of spliting the community i have a feeling that the english server will be underpopulated

or how about we keep RA and the spanish can have this new one
(you know we are your faves right? right? :sifflote: )

anyway to sum up restarting - not moveing end of

[Miraculix]

If I can migrate at any given time (maybe with a premium item?) I might go over one day, if it looks like everyone is moving there.

I am NOT levelling again in another server though.

Migration = entire character + inventory + ximerin + gold. If I can do that, I will consider it.

[Vroek]

Id say no damn character migration at least for 6 months seems a little unfair to general population of the server, after that maybe but with a set amount of gold.
Whats most interesting with this server is that it will have a better working economy, trading will come natural on this new server.
This may be the only reason that i might be interested enough to give it a try.

[Vijabei]

I would love to migrate to that server as well, with my current characters and with my clan mates if possible.

The current english clans on Ra will probably grow even more slower now...and all the new english speakers will go to the new game server...

I would also accept the loss of my RP's just to have the chance to do this.

But, if its not possible then I am stuck on Ra.
I agree with my clan boss :theking: And I also would accept the loss of my 1 RP :p

But I think it's not an good idea to start a new server. When you want to close the realm chat because of the high traffic you can create a global chat for english and another for different languages. The user can decide which chat he wants to follow.

Fact is: When we have to stay on Ra with our clan while new english speaking players start on the new server, it will be a hard future for us with less fun.

[Valorius]

Having multiple languages is problematic at best. The idea of an english server is very solid- but we need to be able to take our characters, our equipment, and our xym over with us.

If we can't take our characters and gear, almost no one is going to use the new server.

[Comp]

And...I think having experienced players there would do wonders for promoting "new" users to come into the server.

[CumeriTarenes]

Did I miss something?

Did NGD say they want us in the new server? No.
Did NGD say you cannot transfer your characters? No.

[Signatus]

Id say no damn character migration at least for 6 months seems a little unfair to general population of the server, after that maybe but with a set amount of gold.
Whats most interesting with this server is that it will have a better working economy, trading will come natural on this new server.
This may be the only reason that i might be interested enough to give it a try.

Good point... as usual ;) .

I haven't thought about this, but either the english speakers migration is massive ("balanced" realms population) or might as well forbidden it for the starting months because it introduces asymmetries of opportunities and advantages. Those who reached lvl 50 and are ubber geared when it was easy to lvl and drop items will have an unfair advantage, meaning, RP won't mean a thing and the game will be less attractive for newcomers.

[makarios68]

One of the nicest things about Ra for an english speaker is that you can communicate with people who would normally be alienated by distance and language. 2 years of high school spanish didn't have a use for me until RO, and my ability to speak it has improved a lot just from the international server. There's no way I'm switching, even if accounts are transferable. I have too many spanish speaking friends on Ra. The only positive thing I can see is that I'll be submerged in spanish by the time the english community dies on Ra. Perhaps I'll become fluent.

NGD please tell us more! I'm really hoping you have a system that will make this an acceptable idea to everybody with bilingual friends.
I see your point here, Plover.

People like yourself might feel a little alienated if a lot of english-speakers move to the new server.

However, at least from what can be gathered in this thread, a transfer of characters is what most english-speakers want...

[conker08]

i think its a good idea but not the best because some people have many langiuages and it will seperate many.....it is a good and bad idea at the same time

[phoenix_jackson]

Launch the server and let all start anew. I'll be there. No matter how people react, you always do what you initially plan anyway. So go ahead.

[Silver_Hawk4]

OK. A Questions:
1) I'm assuming the server will appear on the Server list. If I create Chars on the new server will I still retain my old Chars on RA? (I think yes but wasn't stated in initial post)

I think NGD is making a smart move. This Change isn't geared as much to the old-heads, lvl 50 having Whiner-babies as it is to the newcomers who have a hard time getting help due to lack of Espanol. Come on guys...We migrate X# of newbs(currently on RA) lvl 1-30 then we Migrate our accts in and spend all our time warring and STILL not helping noobs??? Get in there lvl 1 Grow up with your friends and prove yourself....Again!!! Gain that new found respect....or just show you are a PTard who got by on bugs and exploits in Beta...:D

[KappaKing]

"A new server implies the opportunity to start again, a new life of adventures in Regnum"

BUT:
hum,, i dont know about u guys.. but starting all over in a world where theres even less ppl to lvl with.. NO THX, its already hard to lvl, imagin starting all over, and with places like rasius 1 and 2 empty and doing everything alone with no group experience,, no way, unless they make it dual log( u can log in with same char in both) i aint going, plus i find there isnt anyways enough ppl on RA hehe.(plus ppl have spend money on RA accounts)

i dont think their plan will work even though i like it (if it had dual log) anyways well see!

MYTHO-THE GREEK KNIGHT!:lightsabre: :metal: :horsey:

[phoenix_jackson]

OK. A Questions:
1) I'm assuming the server will appear on the Server list. If I create Chars on the new server will I still retain my old Chars on RA? (I think yes but wasn't stated in initial post)

I think NGD is making a smart move. This Change isn't geared as much to the old-heads, lvl 50 having Whiner-babies as it is to the newcomers who have a hard time getting help due to lack of Espanol. Come on guys...We migrate X# of newbs(currently on RA) lvl 1-30 then we Migrate our accts in and spend all our time warring and STILL not helping noobs??? Get in there lvl 1 Grow up with your friends and prove yourself....Again!!! Gain that new found respect....or just show you are a PTard who got by on bugs and exploits in Beta...:D

MY thoughts exactly.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Get in there lvl 1 Grow up with your friends and prove yourself....Again!!! Gain that new found respect....or just show you are a PTard who got by on bugs and exploits in Beta...:D

I have never used bugs deliberatly
I didnt show till long after the Beta
I have neither the time or patiance to restart in a new server

If plenty of English move there and chars are transferable then in the long long long run moveing may be the best option i dont want to be part of a ever shrinking english community as all the old players leave... Hopefully since the 2 servers are clearly split into ENGLISH - SPANISH as opposed to the 2nd german server giving you
GERMAN (many users,which everyone joins)
GERMAN (few users who few join)

Hopefully (maybe with some advertising) this english server would soon be a thriveing community just like RA but with english speakers only as opposed to 2/3 spanish 1/3 english

[elendriel]

More than migrating, I'd prefer the possibility to make a copy of the char, I wouldn't like to lose part of this community, and the good enemies and english friends that I have.

So I'd like more the possibility that to play at the two servers, it would be good that the transfer account be premium, more money for NGD.

Could be interesting two models of transfer of account, one that is migrating(the character is transfered without keep the copy in Ra, cheapest form) and more expensive form, that the character is transfered keeping the copy in Ra.

[UmarilsStillHere]

so you want us to pay to move server (free game ding ding?) im not planing on paying to move other wise thats just discrimination against the english why not have the holas pay to use RA (exactly):thumb_down:

moveing servers is allways going to be hard its like asking america to leave all there money posesions and jobs and kindly move to africa

[-Edge-]

I just hope the server isnt full of kiddies

[Crowbane]

Silver hawk I actually feel very offended by your comments...... I don't whine and, I came along long after beta...... I worked hard for my lvl and so unless they transfer my characters and all money rp and xp I stay here.

If my Clan go then so be it...... I will miss them but I don't see the point in dragging around doing all that lvling again.... even though I now have others characters lvling I really don't want to have to go through it all again with my main. I like RA and like many have learnt enough spanish to be able to function in the wz and sz. Most of the people who are now lvl50 I lvled with. I grew with my Clan.

Those who want to go then go. Kailer it would be nice to have a little reassurance on the points raised here. Continued silence causes more uncertain annoyance and maybe more leavers. Some of the comments here have stung and all for the wrong reasons.

Oh and by the way I do remember what it was like to be a 'noob' (horrid expression) thats why I don't complain about them 'being out of control' and asking continual questions. I have never been told to speak spanish either, we generally get by with a very strange mixture of both languages. Courtesy normally heals any rifts :)

Sorry Pelnil have edited my baaaad punctuation there sorry to have caused you any offense due to high emotions :(

[UmarilsStillHere]

EDIT: yeah i remember noob =/ i dont use it to mean low lvl if i use it at all its because the player regardless of lvl is generaly acting like a smeg head...

[Crowbane]

Um I was actually saying that like you I came along after the beta....... sorry my bad punctuation (have now edited it apologies again



Regards

[UmarilsStillHere]

accepted commers are impotant :)

[elendriel]

so you want us to pay to move server (free game ding ding?) im not planing on paying to move other wise thats just discrimination against the english why not have the holas pay to use RA (exactly):thumb_down:

moveing servers is allways going to be hard its like asking america to leave all there money posesions and jobs and kindly move to africa
I'm doing to pay for move the characters, not to go to play there with new characters.

I think that is a win win, you win, because you can transfer your players, and NGD has incomings.

[GIGO305]

Well at least this will work will all that players who cant see spanish in their games and command us to talk english all the time.

I doubt much people will move there, at least not if they cant move their pjs from ra with them.



You what?
leme translate since ur english suxs worse than mines

well atleast this will work with all those players that cant see spanish in their games and comand us to speak english all the time

i doubt alot of ppl will move there, at least not if they cant move their chars

i cant pic a server but if i have to start over im staying in RA, srry howdys. but since its a gigo free server 30% of the ppl here just changed their mind :ohill: ill miss u geys.

[-Edge-]

I for one hope they don't allow the option to switch over, it should be everything from lvl 1

[Valorius]

Now why would you hope that? So that no one uses it and it fails?

What is your rationale?

[Miraculix]

He probably doesnt want to be a low lvl amongst lvl50's again :P

NGD/Kailer, deliberate ignoring of the questions about migration (which is the #1 question right now) isn't helping, not at all. If you want to populate the server, let ppl know. No-one is playing there and risk lvling again only to find out you guys planned to enable migration 2 months after launch. Not to mention hiding smth like that is... well, I'm gonna say "rude" to keep this post children-friendly.

If NGD hasn't decided on the issue yet, you can just say so. Although I doubt anyone is gonna believe it.

I bet the cash from all those players levelling from 1-50 all over again must seem very nice to NGD's eyes.

[Wyatt]

NGD on behalf of my clan and myself, I ask you to please consider the migration of characters from Ra to the new server.

[-Edge-]

He probably doesnt want to be a low lvl amongst lvl50's again :P


thats right, im looking forward to a new start, new rankings, new people

[UmarilsStillHere]

Not as premium please many of us cant get it and will be stuck behind... or maybe free transfer for first 3 months?

[-Edge-]

Not as premium please many of us cant get it and will be stuck behind... or maybe free transfer for first 3 months?
I think premium would be one of the few things that would be transferable in these circumstances

[UmarilsStillHere]

no transfer the zim but dont make TRANSFERING THE ACCOUNT cost premium

[Miraculix]

I'm fine with a premium item that will allow transfer, but seeing as premium is not available in some countries (anpu probably wont be able to migrate if it's premium for example) this can be pretty bad for them.

[CumeriTarenes]

I cannot understand the trouble. Why do you want to "live" on a new server?
If you want to, create a new char and level it up. If you don't want to, stay on Ra.

I personally prefer to play on Ra, I like the athmosphere, the mixture from spanish and english. That's one of the points that makes regnum a special game.
I don't want to play on an english only server. I am german, if I wanted to I could play on german only server. But I don't like to, I want to feel the intercultural vibe. Believe me, you will miss the "holas". You'll miss the "jajajajajaja" and "aaaaaaaayda". I mean, even when in a party with only english speaking people we say "aca" and "nada" for example. This is part of the gameplay I don't want to miss.
I cannot understand how anybody realy wants to leave Ra completely to move with his chars. I am sure everybody has a lot of "holas" friends too.

For that I think NGD should not give you any options to transfer your characters. They create a new world, a new world with a new chance for everyone who wants to. Ra will stay an international server, not a spanish one. Nobody forces you to move.
This means your argument, that you spent time and money in leveling your characters is moot, because nobody is going to take your characters.

The only thing I worry about is that new english speaking players will only join
the new server which makes the english comunity on Ra dieing in the long run.
But time will tell.

[CHeesE_13]

i think everyone in the English Forum will agree with me that...we need answers... to the questions that are being asked...u ask us to buy xym for the game to support it...but we are just pretty much running at this blind?
with all the random changes... NGD doesnt seem to care about the people playing there game...only how much money they make...and its becuz of the people playing your game that you make money...

i think we should get answers...
People wanna know if, we are going to have to start over..
What will happen to our clans?
What about the Xym & time we spent on lvling are characters on a Server that isnt for us anymore..??
Questions Like These should be answered, not becuz we are stupid.. but becuz we wanna know is it going to be worth it to spend all that time and all that money to play a game that is dieing.

[CumeriTarenes]

i think everyone in the English Forum will agree with me that...we need answers... to the questions that are being asked...u ask us to buy xym for the game to support it...but we are just pretty much running at this blind?
with all the random changes... NGD doesnt seem to care about the people playing there game...only how much money they make...and its becuz of the people playing your game that you make money...

i think we should get answers...
People wanna know if, we are going to have to start over..
What will happen to our clans?
What about the Xym & time we spent on lvling are characters on a Server that isnt for us anymore..??
Questions Like These should be answered, not becuz we are stupid.. but becuz we wanna know is it going to be worth it to spend all that time and all that money to play a game that is dieing.


why do you need an answer? NGD just told us there will be a new server, and who wants to can join and have a new start. You don't want to have a new start? Fine, stay on Ra and nothing will change for you.

[Inkster]

After thinking about this further, i think it will be great for new players who could indeed be put off by the majority of Spanish speakers on Ra.

HOWEVER, as i will not be using the new server would it not be pointless for me to recommend my english speaking friends who would like to play on the same server as me (regardless of realm) to the new one? I think so.

That said the option of a premium scroll to transfer would be great for people who want to do that.

:A little off topic:
In regards to the comment about those of us who were here from an early date (i started just after beta) SHAME ON YOU! no one used bugs or exploits that i know within the game, what you said was incredibly insulting to a lot of players. They worked hard to grind up for lvl 1-50 and a truly hope you are ashamed of yourself for what you said.

:A little more off topic:
Mr A Nonny Mouse red karma dealer, thanks for the negative for making a reply to a comment made on this thread

[-Edge-]

Where the hell did the massive worrying come from? Some points people should keep in mind before they get their panties in a bunch:

1. When did NGD say moving was going to be a premium only feature?

2. When beta ended everyone started over anyway.

3. No one forces you to go

4. Nothing is going to change other than the fact that english players will have the chance to choose if they want to play on an english only server or an international one.

After thinking about this further, i think it will be great for new players who could indeed be put off by the majority of Spanish speakers on Ra.


Yes Inkster, the point of this server is to give English players a more better feeling of being with other english players. What was going on right now was English people that were new to the game had a hard time finding other ones, they looked on the realm chat and they saw spanish.

Its all about the 1st impression

[CHeesE_13]

why do you need an answer? NGD just told us there will be a new server, and who wants to can join and have a new start. You don't want to have a new start? Fine, stay on Ra and nothing will change for you.

becuz some of us can not speak both english and spanish.. and if there is a new english server. new comers wont wanna come to a server that is english and spanish. there going to want a english server....becuz there new to regnum they dont know why its so awesome...with all the "JAJAJA" Or Holas...ect...

and so the english people on RA are going to die out...
but i for one... plan on keeping my characters on RA so i can hunt and war....becuz i dont need to know spanish to kill people :metal:

[-Edge-]

and so the english people on RA are going to die out...
but i for one... plan on keeping my characters on RA so i can hunt and war....becuz i dont need to know spanish to kill people :metal:
you've nothing to worry about, english clans on Ra will become even tighter.

[Inkster]

Cheese answer me this, you as you said do not speak Spanish so what made you decide this game is awesome (which i agree it is)

It would be the same for new user i would have thought

Imo the best part of this game is the community within the game regardless of where they live or what language they speak


(still not moving to new server)

[-Edge-]

Cheese answer me this, you as you said do not speak Spanish so what made you decide this game is awesome (which i agree it is)

It would be the same for new user i would have thought

Imo the best part of this game is the community within the game regardless of where they live or what language they speak


(still not moving to new server)
Its because we had no choice, we grew up in this server because there was no other, because of that we bonded. Im just suprised alot of people are staying now, when if you look in suggestion there is alot of suggestions concerning English only servers and channels

[CumeriTarenes]

Its because we had no choice, we grew up in this server because there was no other, because of that we bonded. Im just suprised alot of people are staying now, when if you look in suggestion there is alot of suggestions concerning English only servers and channels


I had a choice between Ra and german server. I decided for Ra.

[CHeesE_13]

Cheese answer me this, you as you said do not speak Spanish so what made you decide this game is awesome (which i agree it is)

It would be the same for new user i would have thought

Imo the best part of this game is the community within the game regardless of where they live or what language they speak


(still not moving to new server)

becuz when i started this game..i didnt know it was a spanish :viking: and i joined late at night...and i started talking to like DMC...and Yo Mamma...
and they got me into a clan fast...so i just kept at it..

[-Edge-]

becuz when i started this game..i didnt know it was a spanish :viking: and i joined late at night...and i started talking to like DMC...and Yo Mamma...
and they got me into a clan fast...so i just kept at it..
Thats usually how it is, if you find a way to survive as a new guy you stick around, and you instantly become different :D

[CHeesE_13]

i plan on moving to the new server also so i can help the "new guy"... but i have mixed feelings about copying everythign from RA to the new server...
i mean all the hard work...i dont want it to go to waste...
but than there is the whole new start thing...make a name for yourself...ect ect.
(i cuold be the frist one on the new server to get 100 rp, thats just something that u can brag about for forever:closed2: )

so at this point im going to say...im going to be bak and frouth between both servers.

[Wyatt]

I am also going to the new server and start all over again once its online, so whoever is going to start all over again, see you there!

My clan is also moving there to.

I am still hoping NGD allow us to do the character migration to the new server.

[Signatus]

As far as the discussion went I'm noticing people more concerned in making their packages then in identifying what are the real problems that Ra might, possibly, have (and which motivates the migration).

Or the truth is you want a new world where you are unquestionable masters of newbs? At least for the beginning months, then the same reasons that made some of you to move will eventually repeat themselves...

Lets put the hypothesis of NGD allowing characters migration (by deleting them on Ra and moving them to the new server by request) but at the same time of a total fiasco on the players growth on the new server (either because it's damn hard to grind, either because the market of english speaking consumers are rich enough to play a zillion of other MMORPG, either because the first time the newcomers went to WZ they were utterly slaughtered by players whose experience and gear is only achieved by continuous months of "hard work" and hot-fixes craziness). Eventually the players who migrated would find themselves killing each other until perpetual boredom, question is, will you wine to come back to Ra again?

Probably NGD has the numbers of the non-"holas" rate of inscriptions observed in the last months and the new server will, and I sincerely hope so for NGD's sake, grow strive and strong. What I fail to understand is this "abandon the ship" motivation that many of you exhibit.

As a final note, both mechanisms exist in MMORPG (account per server, and multiple-server per account), but if NGD never (so far) allowed realm transfer (as proposed in the past as a premium item) why should they allow server transfer? And the german servers work, if I'm not mistaken, on the account per server basis...

Prepare yourselves to grind ^^ .

(I stay, not that concerns anyone, but I'm already on the next lvl, after learning to write "aca" I'm learning how to say "aca" xD . TS ftw).

[-Edge-]

What I fail to understand is this "abandon the ship" motivation that many of you exhibit.

Some of us are bored and are just looking for fun :sifflote:

[save_the_trees]

message for Znurre and the others in the Valhalla clan.. Tell me you WONT move to the new server T_T

I won't move xD, and I'm rather sure that at least the high lv won't move either. But I fear that some English speaking people might do. Or as old people stop playing and new players will perhaps rather join the new server, the English speaking community on RA could eventually more or less die out. Anyway maybe time to learn more Spanish then :/

[UmarilsStillHere]

Eventually the players who migrated would find themselves killing each other until perpetual boredom

I allready find myslef killing the same person over and over again to be honest I would never get bored of fighting the same people each time would be a challage you would learn that opponant how they fight and how to try counter them :thumb_up:

oh btw

To NGD:

From all currently online members of INQ
No account transfer no moveing. We dont think that countless hours of repetitive griding should have to be repeated for the sake of getting our own server NO i dont think that all the new players on the english server will be killed all the time by us by the time we are killing them they will have also earned there equipment and learned how to play also if you start everyone CLANLESS on lvl 1 then it would take a long time for any clans to show up dureing which time we would all be lost...

[CumeriTarenes]

[...]


well said, I cannot understand the "abandon the ship" motivation either. But it's most probably because people want to rule over others...and on a new server it's more aesy to do....


as for german servers: A Gamigo account allows you to join both german servers, Ra and Amun. You can play in Alsius on Ra, play in Ignis on Niflheim and in Syrtis in Muspelheim for example. So you have an seperated account on every server, no dual log and no character transfer from one server to another one.

[Valorius]

I totally disagree with cumeri, 100%.

I WANT to play with players that speak my language. There is NO allure to playing on a server where over 60% of your realm mates cannot communicate with you effectively. It is NOT advantageous to have to repeat everything twice, once in english, once in spanish.

And another major reason for wanting to move is a reduction in Lag.

I totally disagree with Signatus too, what parts of his post i could even understand, that is.

All the GILLIONS of lvl 50s in Ra don't already own noobs now? 30+ Lvl 50 Ignis camping our beach save for HOURS isn't totally, totally gay? Frankly, ignis players should be ashamed of themselves.

Sorry, if they allow transfers of characters my entire guild is going to the new server. If not, none of us are going- Until we ALL go. Go bye bye that is....because the English community in Ra WILL begin to shrink as soon as the new server is opened as ALL new english accounts register there.

[mute]

Well, what should I say.

I played from the first day when RA started and I still love this server.

I tried the 2 german servers, but I came quickly back to RA cause there's much more action here and much less kiddies.

I don't want to start a new char again, so maybe a Transfer Premium Item would be useful. In WOW it also costs some money to transfer chars to another server.

So maybe after 2 months you should give people the chance to move.


I think I'll stay on RA...:metal:

[Miraculix]

Insta-lvl30 scrolls, +200% xp scrolls, all these were made with the new server in mind. I guess the cash is just too much for them to allow us to transfer our characters? I doubt there will be any migration option. Let's hope NGD proves me wrong.

[Vodka92]

Well I think I'll move, and much other would too if NDG just remove the fatigue system. Think about it !

[SmUrV]

i havent played for as long as most of these people and im not lvl 50 but i have put a lot of work into my little lvl 35 and having to do it all over again would suck massively


I totally disagree with cumeri, 100%.

I WANT to play with players that speak my language. There is NO allure to playing on a server where over 60% of your realm mates cannot communicate with you effectively. It is NOT advantageous to have to repeat everything twice, once in english, once in spanish.

And another major reason for wanting to move is a reduction in Lag.

I totally disagree with Signatus too, what parts of his post i could even understand, that is.

All the GILLIONS of lvl 50s in Ra don't already own noobs now? 30+ Lvl 50 Ignis camping our beach save for HOURS isn't totally, totally gay? Frankly, ignis players should be ashamed of themselves.

Sorry, if they allow transfers of characters my entire guild is going to the new server. If not, none of us are going- Until we ALL go. Go bye bye that is....because the English community in Ra WILL begin to shrink as soon as the new server is opened as ALL new english accounts register there.

you make a good point BUT you shouldnt talk abotu spawn camping against any one realm
syrtis and alsius camp menirah spawn, samal spawn, ignis gate. i mean come on you cant single us out when the entire world of regnum does it, besides its not our fault you guys cant ban together to push us out of syrtis

Well, what should I say.

I played from the first day when RA started and I still love this server.

I tried the 2 german servers, but I came quickly back to RA cause there's much more action here and much less kiddies.

I don't want to start a new char again, so maybe a Transfer Premium Item would be useful. In WOW it also costs some money to transfer chars to another server.

So maybe after 2 months you should give people the chance to move.


I think I'll stay on RA...:metal:

this is not WOW
i get tired of everyone comparing mmorpgs to each other or any game to another saying one is better or pointing out other things

if they had wanted this game to be like wow they would have made it like wow and right now i wouldnt be playing it

[manchester4ever]

NGD seriously now, we are spending our time thinking, debatting, some even argueing, I think we would all welcome it if you made a decision regarding the transfer of characters soon and post it. Enlighten us all about your future plans for this server. If you want all the new people to go on it then tell us that you are not gonna transfer chars. If you want to make an English community you should transfer them it is up to you but us worrying about what you're gonna do is kinda stupid so please answer the question.

Character Transfer: Yes or No

thanks, Stain

fear the werewolf, it may be the last you'll see :werewolf:

[UmarilsStillHere]

butts in with a qucik bit from the INQ rules book

NO save camping

anyway back on topic

NGD i hope you prove Miraculix wrong at least in this show some kindness even if you need to move each account one at a time its easyer than haveing to restart fomr lvl one please can we get a yes/no answer on weather accounts will be transfered?

[CumeriTarenes]

why should NGD tell you? Some ppl want to move....let them go and let them buy premium items to level faster. This would give NGD a huge income.


Then, after two month when Ra has a lot less number of english speaking players
(because no new players join Ra and old players either moved or left the game) they could offer a premium item to transfer characters. This would give NGD some income again.
I would do so, when I wanted to earn money...

[Isemon]

i agree with the new server of english community, but i agree with all players that don't want go there cose is really boring to level their char up. so i think if there will be the transfer of accounts, i'll move to the new server...

[Emmery]

why should NGD tell you? Some ppl want to move....let them go and let them buy premium items to level faster. This would give NGD a huge income.


Then, after two month when Ra has a lot less number of english speaking players
(because no new players join Ra and old players either moved or left the game) they could offer a premium item to transfer characters. This would give NGD some income again.
I would do so, when I wanted to earn money...

Oh plz plz don't give them any ideas :P

[Vijabei]

Well I think I'll move, and much other would too if NDG just remove the fatigue system. Think about it !
I like your idea. Then I would also invest again in exp booster.

[Miraculix]

Oh plz plz don't give them any ideas :P

I don't think they needed CT to tell them that. If they actually do that, they pretty much lose their respect from me. But I guess respect isn't as nice as cash, for someone who acts that way. I can only hope NGD is not like that.

[Wyatt]

I was just reading the spanish forum and most spanish users seem to agree that the english community should have the opportunity to move there characters to the new server.

But hey, thats what us the users think, I wonder what NGD might do, hopefully they listen to us.

[Angel_de_Combate]

Well i disagree..i love the spanish community..i dont want to leave..so why have NGD done this..im sorry but i wont move...why would i ???? RA is fine as it is..NGD are like separating us..it aint cool..

NGD what are you doing ffs???

Is this a way to fix lagg by any chance ?? :P

[warohs]

I rather like the miscommunications with others, lends a spice to the game and makes me learn new phrases in other languages. Please don't do this unless you migrate chars. I see from the posts that many people will be sorely upset and a lot will probably just leave altogether.

[Pizdzius]

see, i'd miss my buddies who will move to the new servers like Wyatt, but if I move with them, I will miss people who stay, like Inkster or Sithius

this new server is really a pain for me
can't we just upgrade the existing one? :sifflote:

[makarios68]

But it's most probably because people want to rule over others...and on a new server it's more aesy to do....

I very much doubt that this is a reason why any existing players would want to transfer their characters to the new server.

The reason is simple: they want to play the game with people that speak their own language...

[CumeriTarenes]

I very much doubt that this is a reason why any existing players would want to transfer their characters to the new server.

The reason is simple: they want to play the game with people that speak their own language...

They can do. Just create a new char on new server and they can play with ppl that speak their own language (for many english is a non native langauge as well).

They knew they had to handle with a lot of spanish speaking people in the game, everyone gets this in the very first hours of playing already. Now, that there is a new server they cannot or they don't want to handle it anymore?

I see no reason for transfering characters in this. Whoever wants a new start should join the new server. Who does not should stay on Ra. Later, after several month when there are already a lot of high lvl ppl in wz I think NGD should offer a premium item to transfer characters, but not right now. But then they should set a gold cap every character can move with. Because the new server is a great chance to see if the "new econemic" ic working or not. Don't disturb this prozess with characters that made their gold in former times.

[Signatus]

I totally disagree with Signatus too, what parts of his post i could even understand, that is.

Well, I don't know what there is to disagree or not, I only made conjectures based on hypothesis. If you want any clarification you can ask ^^.

I'm not against anything, and only expressed my reserves about not allowing Portugal and Spain users to join on the first 2 months on a server that will have European users.

I also questioned the "chars" migration possibility impelled by a constructive point made by Vroek some pages ago, a post that made me change my own personal view as expressed on my first post (reply n.º4).

What bothers me isn't seeing people leaving Ra with which I like to play or battle (hey, sometimes I leave the game for months and nobody has something to do with it!). What bothers me is seeing the community that invented a new meaning for the "holas" word abandoning Ra advocating a "language barrier" that has never been an issue before...

But have fun wherever you play, it's the game's objective. :)

P.S. I might add, the only problem on Ra is: it isn't "international" enough! :D

[Valorius]

why should NGD tell you?
Why would you even post this? It is combative in nature and serves no useful purpose at all.

[ArcticWolf]

Yes, for two months. Then, anyone in any country in the world will be able to access this server. This is only to ensure that the initial community is English speaking.

Regards,

That gives me enough time to save for a laptop and pass the exams. Nice... Maybe you'll see me in the warzone in "Spring" (I mean, when it's spring here...).

A hurrah for NGD! You should see the bright side: less lag, less problems, you'll be able to speak english without being interrupted by some unintelligible language and such. I'll miss you, guys, but I promise that if I come back I'll pay you a visit from time to time :thumb_up:

[Torg_Snowflake]

I would like to just say this to my english speaking allies and enemies, wich are all friends in the end =D

Whatever happens, and wherever you go, remember there is someone willing to die by your side and/or kick your ass ;)

Good luck to all migrators!!!

[CHeesE_13]

at first i was all for copying everyones charaters over to the new server... but the idea of started from fresh grew on me...now i cant wait for the server and a fresh start... besides since i didnt come untill a few months after beta finshed??(i think)
i never got to see a warzone without lvl 50's.. at think point abunch of lvl 1's could war...that be awesome...lol

anyways i can finnaly say :thumb_up:

[SmUrV]

theres all this talk of premium items and the arguement about the lvl 50's but
in the end its up to NGD and they have so far until recently built this game off of user input

right now most of the users are leaning towards a migration, but money talks so we may end up paying for our migration

i stand either way, restarting doesnt bother me but my lvl can be achieved in a day or so with some xym and moving my character would be nice but if NGD decides to kick their english fan base in the shins then so be it

a lot of the lvl 50's will be pissed that they wasted all that time and in some cases money, if you dont allow us to migrate i see a lot of our veteran players leaving

once again you have come up with a terrific way to alienate your players, i see an ENRON situation in your future if you continue to smother your players only caring about money

[Elman1o1]

NGD, would you mind making a poll about the new server?

here are a few suggestions of some poll options.

a) would you move if you had to start from scratch.
b) would you ONLY move if you had to start from scratch.

c) would you move if you got to take your account with you. (Mirrored for around a month then you have to decide which server.)
d) would you move if you were allowed to take your char/xim/gold, but NO items. (should re-rewarded every player the quest items for the quests they have already done.) - this gives NGD the chance to revamp drops/item stats.

---

I personally feel a bit 'slighted' if new English server opens up and we are not allowed to take chars and xim. (I would be willing to sacrifice items and RP to move. Gold is an interesting issue due to the barb/knight problem of repairs - depends if anything is done about cost of repair.) I had faith in NGD that they would keep this game fun/updated/playable for a while, so when they where celebrating, I bought a bunch of xim for the coming year. I know that I took the risk, and that NGD has no obligation, but if a Major change of servers happens and I loose the xim switching servers - I would be a lot more hesitant to buy xim in the future.



I kinda like the idea of allowing char transfer, but not items. (and I do have some nice items that I would HATE to see go...) lv 50 would have a problem as they do not grind, so few chances of getting drops. - two solutions,
A) do a temporary significant increase in the drop rate of lv 49/50 mobs (and have them only drop lv 50ish stuff)

b) and I dare say this, increase the level cap a few levels? NGD, please shoot this solution down early if balance issues would get destroyed by this (ie, some classes might benefit HUGELY by having more skills, while others would hardly benefit at all by having more points for skills

I thank any one who has made it through this long post...

[Miraculix]

Kailer has been around since page 2-3, even edited some of the posts later on in the thread. The lack of response is deliberate. Conclusions are for anyone to make.

[Silver_Hawk4]

Now that I think about it...
1) Even without transfer, Alot of folks have the option of Lvl 30 Scroll + 200% Scrolls(I know some cannot Buy Xim, But even they have a choice:stay RA or Start lvl 1)...so WZ will be weird... ppl lvl 1-15 on day 5 thinking their Gods in WZ then a lvl 30 comes along and wipes them out...:D
2)My Biggest question: Any1 who has German servers(As I only see RA and AMUN) How does it work for Germans with the 2 servers? Mirrored on both or Essentially 6 different Chars(3 on Each server)? Before I'm decide I need to know are we Killing our old Chars to be reincarnated on new server??
3) # of English on RA: Those who stay or RA will recommend friends to join RA(Just like we do with realm/Clans) those who join US(Or whatever they call it) will do the same, so I don't see too much drawback there.
4)LESS SERVER LOAD!!! Both on RA and US. No complaints there!!!

Offtopic: I made the comment about SOME lvl 50 Whiners. Not to say all lvl 50s are, but there are some that used Bugs After beta, plus other methods that are no longer "Useable" *30 ppl one hit mobs for...Well, you know the rest. So, growing up on New server with the game RO has evolved to seem "Soooo Inconvienent". Newbies have been doing it this way since updates. Get over yourself!! Move or Don't move...Who cares?!? Some will form the new world and be happy with or without you.:closed2:

[ArcticWolf]

Kailer has been around since page 2-3, even edited some of the posts later on in the thread. The lack of response is deliberate. Conclusions are for anyone to make.

Kailer may not be able to disclose more information, or even to reply to this announcement. This kind of posts are like the ones Vr1 and other Admins used to posts, so I conclude that Kailer is not replying because he's not allowed to do so.

[Malik2]

Kailer answered the question about migrations back on page 1 or 2. The answer was no, you would need to start a new character.

I don't understand all the confusion.

I don't think there was a migration option for the German servers, I wouldn't expect one for the English server.

time to come to terms.

[Valorius]

Then no member of my clan will switch. As far as Order of Daggers is concerned, this new server does not exist.

Though i did look back and i didn't see Kailer say outright no char transfers. Why would they want to start an english server and have 90% of their english players not play on it?

[Silver_Hawk4]

...

Though i did look back and i didn't see Kailer say outright no char transfers. Why would they want to start an english server and have 90% of their english players not play on it?

Easy.
1)A home for those future English speaking players that have not joined...More and more Everyday.

2) For current players(pretty new) that are Frustrated and on the verge of quiting due to Laguage barrier(5) if not in clan.

BTW:
Language Barrier
Creates an annoying barrier that absorbs all
of the useful information received by the player
Type: Constant
Cost: Regnum Career
Casting:# of secs required to type question
Cooldown:25Mins

[NightTwix]

i expected a clear NO from NGD to char migration but as they are not answering they might think about making it a premium item.

Anyway, i wont move to the new server, thats for sure.
The german servers didnt attract me either.

The community and our clan here are just great and its a real advantage to not understand the people talking nonsense ;)

One thing that really bothers me is the lack of new international players in the future. And theres a question i have regarding that:

If spanish-speakers arent able to sign up to the new international server, will it be the other way round, too?
Will it still be possible for international speakers to sign up to Ra?

[elendriel]

i expected a clear NO from NGD to char migration but as they are not answering they might think about making it a premium item.

Anyway, i wont move to the new server, thats for sure.
The german servers didnt attract me either.

The community and our clan here are just great and its a real advantage to not understand the people talking nonsense ;)

One thing that really bothers me is the lack of new international players in the future. And theres a question i have regarding that:

If spanish-speakers arent able to sign up to the new international server, will it be the other way round, too?
Will it still be possible for international speakers to sign up to Ra?
The spanish-speaker aren't able to sign up to the new international server, for a few months, to ensure that the main communitty is english, the opposite of Ra, where the main community is spanish-speaking.

But for example, one community of spanish speaking can register to the new server, the people of Spain, will be able to register from the beginning, and few months later, all the people of South of America.

Yes, the international speakers will be able to sign up to Ra, as I said, the limitation only was to ensure that would be english people, because if they leave opened, be sure, that would be the situation similar to Ra.

They want a server with 60-70% of spanish people speaking

And a server with 60-70% of english people speaking.

It is as I understand.

[Flora78]

I can only hope NGD is not like that.

They are worst, they banned me permanently just becasue I said that Shaya is better than Regnum Offline.

[S_N_I_P_E_R]

Hmmm, have any of you been on amun reasently. Well for those of you that haven't they are going to be removing the realm chat. That being said new english speaking people will NOT be put off by the spannish community as there will not be a realm chat doing so.

So wtf are ngd doing making an english server on the basis that english speakers are put off by seeing only spannish in realm chat, the mind boggles!!

[-Edge-]

Offtopic: I made the comment about SOME lvl 50 Whiners. Not to say all lvl 50s are, but there are some that used Bugs After beta, plus other methods that are no longer "Useable" *30 ppl one hit mobs for...Well, you know the rest.
Actually I just remembered that after Beta "some" Mages got to lvl 50 very fast through using massive aura's and leeching.

Morphine made a thread about it, ill see if I can find it, it was the 1st thread I posted in on these forums and I remeber it quite well.

EDIT: I belive it was deleted, even though it was a really old thread.

EDIT: Nvm got it: http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=8372

[-Paradox-]

What is with all the "If characters are migrated all of the newer players will be disadvantaged due to them being a low level" bullshit? If a new player starts now in RA they are going to be disadvantaged too in that manner. If I am to start a new character on RA that isn't and excuse to make everyone else level 1 to make it fair. I see no disadvantage to character migration. I see advantages as the low level players being able to see what sub-classes look like and how they behave and having older, experienced players there to help them out. I don't know about you but having a level 50 conjurer help out the lower levels would be nice would it not?

Making the character migration premium will be bad also for the lack of ways to pay for premium. Their are many people playing the game who can not get paypal and pay for it. If they open more ways then yes it would be ok to make it premium but for now migration should be allowed.

[Pizdzius]

It'd be nice if NGD opened a bank account which we can transfer money to :sifflote:

[-Edge-]

It'd be nice if NGD opened a bank account which we can transfer money to :sifflote:
Looks like my only way to pay is to fly to Argentina and hand Surak a sack full of cash :sifflote:

[phoenix_jackson]

It'd be nice if NGD opened a bank account which we can transfer money to :sifflote:
Love the idea. Easiest for me to get xim.

[UmarilsStillHere]

I have played some games that have several servers were you simply choose one to log into and each time it can be differant you can communicate with people in other worlds via clan/private chats still but cant fight/trade/see ect them unless you are on the same world would a system like this be reasonable?

On freinds/party/clan lists it would show eeach user and which world they are in? next to the name? I still dont think it would be fair on the english community if we all had to restart just to use our own server and the holas are only going to get more hostile telling us to get to out "own" server...

[-Edge-]

I have played some games that have several servers were you simply choose one to log into and each time it can be differant you can communicate with people in other worlds via clan/private chats still but cant fight/trade/see ect them unless you are on the same world would a system like this be reasonable?

On freinds/party/clan lists it would show eeach user and which world they are in? next to the name? I still dont think it would be fair on the english community if we all had to restart just to use our own server and the holas are only going to get more hostile telling us to get to out "own" server...
For now we will use the same forums, and im sure in the future its in NGD's plans to set-up dual chat between both servers.

[ltlol]

Hi Community,

The Ra English community will not be modified or alienated at all. Everything will be as usual. The new server will also use this forums, so there will be no changes at all. There will only be new users to come with this new world.

Regards,

THE EXP WILL BE SAVED OR ALL OVER AGAIN?

[GIGO305]

They are worst, they banned me permanently just becasue I said that Shaya is better than Regnum Offline.


WROONG RO is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better...i tried shaiya for a while and it friking suxs, when i came back to RO even the lag was better.

with that said back on topic: guys stop flaming....face it howdys trying to fight holas spam in syrtis chat is sacry to most noobs escpecialy being sucked into a holas clan early in the game.

the server is for those new players to have what they consider a normal MMORG enviroment since most people know that english is a internet dominating languege and if you are confronted to a place where knowing english means crap basicly well ur screwed.

i belive the porpose of this server is for the english speaking comunity to have a new fresh start in what they would call home where the horible holas memories wont haunt them ^^. and to awser the question of migration that would be imense inbalance for WZ and since new players will get a shoot of learning the game without realm chat having the experianced players there to help out would be nice then having a bunch of alienaded noobs.

if this atracts u ... :ohill: and if it doesnt GREAT u wont be missed by me since ull stay with me :) .

ill say it now i wont go out of Ra ever this is MY server...but if i play on new server with a lvl 1 pt and wont have to delete my Ra acount i might stop by to say hi but thats it.

[-Edge-]

with that said back on topic: guys stop flaming....face it howdys trying to fight holas spam in syrtis chat is sacry to most noobs escpecialy being sucked into a holas clan early in the game.

the server is for those new players to have what they consider a normal MMORG enviroment since most people know that english is a internet dominating languege and if you are confronted to a place where knowing english means crap basicly well ur screwed.

i belive the porpose of this server is for the english speaking comunity to have a new fresh start in what they would call home where the horible holas memories wont haunt them ^^. and to awser the question of migration that would be imense inbalance for WZ and since new players will get a shoot of learning the game without realm chat having the experianced players there to help out would be nice then having a bunch of alienaded noobs.

if this atracts u ... :ohill: and if it doesnt GREAT u wont be missed by me since ull stay with me :) .

ill say it now i wont go out of Ra ever this is MY server...but if i play on new server with a lvl 1 pt and wont have to delete my Ra acount i might stop by to say hi but thats it.
Good post gigo

[Signatus]

But for example, one community of spanish speaking can register to the new server, the people of Spain, will be able to register from the beginning, and few months later, all the people of South of America.

This claim is not accurate.

According to the administrator's reply on this thread, countries belonging to the, so called, Iberian-Latin Community won't be able to join the new server on the first two months. This community has two European countries by historical known reasons, Portugal and Spain.

(see page one (or 2?) Kailer's reply to post).

[ArcticWolf]

Looks like my only way to pay is to fly to Argentina and hand Surak a sack full of cash :sifflote:

Sign up like if you were living here (Argentina), then send me a mail with the PagoFácil ticket and I'll play :sifflote:

Now back on topic, taking into account that the realm chat is going to be removed for all the players in the warzone, people will start to gather around the saves and important waypoints. There's a problem with that: they will try to speak just one language, and that's going to be (unfortunately) Spanish.

Those of you who are used to play with the people in this server will find out that groups don't have enough room for everyone, so clans will become more important... But... What about the new players who don't have a clan? You'll be all day long reading the clan chat, and those poor new guys will think that nobody speaks English.

Maybe it's time to have an English-speaking Yaara clan :sifflote:

[VenomElvenX]

So is NGD gonna answer these questions or what? I think most of us want to keep our characters, gold, clans, and ximerin, even if we lose rps and items. If we can't migrate our characters, than I'll just play on Ra until it dies. Because that will mean we are actually being forced to start over. Ra will be falling to spanish speaking players, as only new spanish come and some english leave, there will be a great imbalance over time. So does NGD know this, and is this why they are not answering the BIG question? Will they let us migrate our accounts, after all these replys?

[e30G]

I think they are worried that allowing accounts to be migrating would kill the english community in Ra faster. Or maybe they just want all the income from people having to start over. Either way, I'll be watching the new server and maybe play there once in a while just to see how things are there. :)

[UmarilsStillHere]

If accounts (more importantly clans) dont get sent over then im worryed what kind of chaos will be going on in the start and think off all the current players relvling? think of fisgeal (lag much?) think of rea? i dont think there are enough mobs or landmass for the server to cope with such a huge input of players in such a short time... if i crash at the starting save i think ill cry :sifflote: ...

[-Edge-]

What the HELL is everyone talking about lol, as if this were some doomsday. I don't blame NGD for not posting, everyones going "OMIGOD, U THINK NGD IS GONNA LET US GO?!" "WHAT IF THEY DONT" "WERE ALL GONNA DIE, WERE ALL GONNA DIE!" When did NGD let you down, if they did youd not be playing this game.

Whats the commotion about, everything will be the SAME as before, only there is a new ENGLISH only server, players now have the CHOICE, to play on international or english only. NOTHING is going to change. If you've already been playing on Ra, and you just NEED to switch, if you really had the need to switch badly then starting over would be no problem, it happened after Beta. Deal with it.

For crying out loud.

[CHeesE_13]

im ready for the new server.. i cant wait for it to come.. ima join it..
and im not playing till than...becuz...i dont wanan have to think about how much grinding im going to have to do to get cuaght up.

[UmarilsStillHere]

What the HELL is everyone talking about lol, as if this were some doomsday. I don't blame NGD for not posting, everyones going "OMIGOD, U THINK NGD IS GONNA LET US GO?!" "WHAT IF THEY DONT" "WERE ALL GONNA DIE, WERE ALL GONNA DIE!" When did NGD let you down, if they did youd not be playing this game.

Whats the commotion about, everything will be the SAME as before, only there is a new ENGLISH only server, players now have the CHOICE, to play on international or english only. NOTHING is going to change. If you've already been playing on Ra, and you just NEED to switch, if you really had the need to switch badly then starting over would be no problem, it happened after Beta. Deal with it.

For crying out loud.

DUUUDE STOP SYAING THAT "NOTHING WILL CHANGE" excuse the caps

there will be less english on RA the english community that stays on RA will slowly fade away untill we ave a choice of move or learn spanish LOTS OF STUFF will change. Denial about it wont change anything. I assume that you are looking forward to repeating 100's of hours of grinding if you choose to (or are eventualy forced to) move to this new server...?

and as i said can you imagin the lag in the noob towns?!?

[-Edge-]

DUUUDE STOP SYAING THAT "NOTHING WILL CHANGE" excuse the caps

there will be less english on RA the english community that stays on RA will slowly fade away untill we ave a choice of move or learn spanish LOTS OF STUFF will change. Denial about it wont change anything. I assume that you are looking forward to repeating 100's of hours of grinding if you choose to (or are eventualy forced to) move to this new server...?

and as i said can you imagin the lag in the noob towns?!?
NGD will mess something up in the beggining (they always do XD)

but they always set it right, sorry if I yelled but chill man, everything will be ok

[UmarilsStillHere]

well i wont be overly suprised f out "new server" explodes on the first day but hopefully things will work out =/...

[Valorius]

Easy.
1)A home for those future English speaking players that have not joined...More and more Everyday.
What new player is going to stay in the game when he's the only player in his realm?

You need an initial influx of players for a server to survive, ya?

[UmarilsStillHere]

What new player is going to stay in the game when he's the only player in his realm?

You need an initial influx of players for a server to survive, ya?
well put no one will want to play on a dead server (which it will be with the few people who are currently going, a number which i think would be 2-3* higher with dule logging or migration, hint hint)

[Valorius]

and to awser the question of migration that would be imense inbalance for WZ and since new players will get a shoot of learning the game without realm chat having the experianced players there to help out would be nice then having a bunch of alienaded noobs.

How is that ANY DIFFERENT than the current RA Server?

The point you raise is completely false.

[GIGO305]

How is that ANY DIFFERENT than the current RA Server?

This point you raised here is completely false.


ignis has the most english candidates willing to move....so it would be 60ignis vs 20 syrtians and a few 15 alsirians.

Ra is a flood of ppl so its basic always 30 on 30 0n alg = server crash.

my point is sive on Ra doesnt matter and the new server they wana try to fix it

[Valorius]

and im sure in the future its in NGD's plans to set-up dual chat between both servers. I HIGHLY doubt that, nor do i even see that as a desirable feature.

ignis has the most english candidates willing to move....so it would be 60ignis vs 20 syrtians and a few 15 alsirians. Ignis doesn't have the most candidates to move. Entire clans of syrtis are prepared to move if migrations are allowed- mine included.

[DkySven]

What new player is going to stay in the game when he's the only player in his realm?

You need an initial influx of players for a server to survive, ya?
Then how did both German servers start? And how did they ever get players to Regnum at all?

[CumeriTarenes]

Then how did both German servers start?


with +50% xp in the first week or something like that

that is the way how to attract players to a new server. Many players will join because they know they are starting from scratch like everyone on the server. They will be one of the very first people in warzone, they can grow up with the server. All these kind of motives a player has why he starts to play are gone when you allow transferring characters (in the frst few month of the server).

[eXp4nD]

Good idea, came a bit late tho..
Theres just no way im starting all over again. :fury:

[GIGO305]

I HIGHLY doubt that, nor do i even see that as a desirable feature.

Ignis doesn't have the most candidates to move. Entire clans of syrtis are prepared to move if migrations are allowed- mine included.


i ment moving either way...alll u basterds will leave me to rot in holas if migrations are posible

[Valorius]

Then how did both German servers start? And how did they ever get players to Regnum at all?
Both german servers are still very lightly populated, are they not? The biggest German clan in Regnum still plays in RA because there were no character transfers.

All these kind of motives a player has why he starts to play are gone when you allow transferring characters (in the frst few month of the server).
Incorrect. The # 1 motive for me wanting to leave is improved communications. The #2 reason is reduction in lag.

These are perfectly legitimate reasons for a player to want to transfer over his characters to the new server. Indeed WoW and most other MMO's do character transfers all the time.

[CumeriTarenes]

Both german servers are still very lightly populated, are they not?


no, they aren't, at least not Muspell. You have to consider that the players are only from one timezone and only from Germany, Austria and Switzerland (usually). And not even all german speaking regnum players play on german servers at all, they prefer Ra because of it's international athmosphere or because they already had a character when german servers started. Did you see any german speaking user asking for transferring his character to on of the germans erver?

[Valorius]

What is far more relevant is that ENGLISH players are asking for transfers in huge numbers here in this thread.

[phoenix_jackson]

I would suspect, there will be Global Chat in the new server if in case someone feels lonely :sifflote: ............ but if that happens, it will be taken away sometime anyway.

[makarios68]

Maybe the new server needs a kickstart:

1. The transfer of existing characters from current server.

2. Extra XP on mobs for 2 weeks.

That should do it...:)

[Silver_Hawk4]

Let migration go!!! I don't want the same english ppl that Own/Rule RA to be carried over! Let the ones who work the hardest flourish not the ones who WORKED the hardest. Listen guys. You got your reps on RA, work hard and build them up again on English Server or stay on RA. It's an opportunity for some new Legends to arise! If you look at this thread MOST ppl advocating Migration are lvl 50 or have could have been by now :D

I don't think the server is as much to get old players to leave RA as it is to allow an environment for NEW players to come and stay, thereby increasing customer base. NGD prolly has the #(stats) of how many ppl stopped playing due to "lack of english environment" and Players = $$$$

[-Edge-]

Maybe the new server needs a kickstart:

1. The transfer of existing characters from current server.


That would create major lag on the first days of the server, for the last time, I don't think NGD is in the state to move characters, its too much work to move every single character, and ALL of their items, you have to think about the items. Thats why I stand saying migration will most likely not be possible.
2. Extra XP on mobs for 2 weeks.


NGD usually already does this kind of thing, if you remeber when Muspell and Nilfhelm were started, all new characters in week 1 recieved 500 Xymerin and +50% more Xymerin from purchases. So expect somthing like this on the new server tommorow.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Let migration go!!! I don't want the same english ppl that Own/Rule RA to be carried over! Let the ones who work the hardest flourish not the ones who WORKED the hardest. Listen guys. You got your reps on RA, work hard and build them up again on English Server or stay on RA. It's an opportunity for some new Legends to arise! If you look at this thread MOST ppl advocating Migration are lvl 50 or have could have been by now :D

I don't think the server is as much to get old players to leave RA as it is to allow an environment for NEW players to come and stay, thereby increasing customer base. NGD prolly has the #(stats) of how many ppl stopped playing due to "lack of english environment" and Players = $$$$

noooo i assume your looking forwards to repeating 100s of hours of mind numbing grinding then? In my eyes dominant player change all the time with new players hitting 50 and old ones leaving (stooge anyone?) and unless you plan to pay for master scrolls and 200% boost the dominant players will be the premium users not poor old sods who cant get it... (me)

[chilko]

Let migration go!!! I don't want the same english ppl that Own/Rule RA to be carried over! Let the ones who work the hardest flourish not the ones who WORKED the hardest. Listen guys. You got your reps on RA, work hard and build them up again on English Server or stay on RA. It's an opportunity for some new Legends to arise! If you look at this thread MOST ppl advocating Migration are lvl 50 or have could have been by now :D

I don't think the server is as much to get old players to leave RA as it is to allow an environment for NEW players to come and stay, thereby increasing customer base. NGD prolly has the #(stats) of how many ppl stopped playing due to "lack of english environment" and Players = $$$$

This is exactly what we are trying to do.

[e30G]

Thank you for the reply chilko. I understand where NGD is coming from and I hope both servers will flourish. :)

[mrclean]

Really nice news! Less lag, more chatting in realm chat in english, a new fresh start knowing mechanisms and people :)

I hope old player's characters will remain on ra, so that from time to time we can return there and see what's going on. But on new server I'll strongly prefer a fresh start for all...

I think I may return to play in this way ^^

[fluffy_muffin]

I only hope that now english players will not be treated like germans on RA. Many spanish players offend them for playing on international server and using german on general chat.

[-Edge-]

This is exactly what we are trying to do.
*Me tries to hold back screams* SCREAMS OF JOY! BWAHAHAHAHA

[sathilda]

Really nice news! Less lag, more chatting in realm chat in english, a new fresh start knowing mechanisms and people :)

I hope old player's characters will remain on ra, so that from time to time we can return there and see what's going on. But on new server I'll strongly prefer a fresh start for all...

I think I may return to play in this way ^^

Realm chat will disappear at the next update in WZ :p

[CumeriTarenes]

I only hope that now english players will not be treated like germans on RA. Many spanish players offend them for playing on international server and using german on general chat.


well, german players are treatened in special way by NGD too....they don't belong to the international community at all from the point of view of NGD, regardless on which server they are playing. That's why they are not allowed to use the international community forum.

[Miraculix]

This is exactly what we are trying to do.

Any chance of enabling migration as a premium at a later time? I'm only asking because eventually the english community on Ra will shrink away, eventually, at which point the new english server will be populated already, and enabling premium migration will only generate more income. If people haven't switched over and restarted by the time the english community shrinks away, they'll quit. Premium migration will encourage most to stay and provide further income.

If you don't want to answer this in public, feel free to pm me, I have to plan my ximerin purchases quite a bit ahead of time, money don't come easy ;)

[NightTwix]

well, german players are treatened in special way by NGD too....they don't belong to the international community at all from the point of view of NGD, regardless on which server they are playing. That's why they are not allowed to use the international community forum.

well the german situation is a bit different cause Gamigo is responsible there.

but i think its a bit odd that its forbidden for latin speakers to sign up to the new server in the beginning.
This will fuel xenophobics on both server...

[ArcticWolf]

but i think its a bit odd that its forbidden for latin speakers to sign up to the new server in the beginning.
This will fuel xenophobics on both server...

I, being a Spanish-speaker, don't find it xenophobic at all. It's to keep the Spanish off the chat until English becomes the "mother tongue" of the server. It's just 2 months, nothing serious here... I'll pay you a visit from time to time to practice my english skills :P

[Valour]

This will fuel xenophobics on both server...

I agree, it will not be the same experience as before if I were to make a new account on the new server, it is not the same Regnum that I know and play in often, I love the 'international' community. It's the only bad view I have on it.

[UmarilsStillHere]

That would create major lag on the first days of the server

less than 100 odd new player running around the noob zones? (no)

[Hylius]

Not only will this bring forth oodles of new players, but it will also give NGD the chance to earn some more money. We all know what that means-- efficiency.

Some people refuse to play Regnum Online because of the language barrier, and I cannot blame them. Regnum's community is quite close-knit, which makes it really hard to fit in in spite of speaking the same language or not.

Nobody's making none of you switch. It's just a wise move by NGD. The first one I've seen them make in a long time, actually.

[phoenix_jackson]

It's funny watching the evolution of reactions to this thread.

From "Are you crazy? No I WON'T go to the new server!" To "Unless something something is done!" To "Hmm..... the new server seems to be a nice idea after all."

In time it will turn to "Come to the English server! It's Awesome!"

Ps.
I wonder where my going to Ignis if..... has gone.

[-Edge-]

It's funny watching the evolution of reactions to this thread.

From "Are you crazy? No I WON'T go to the new server!" To "Unless something something is done!" To "Hmm..... the new server seems to be a nice idea after all."

In time it will turn to "Come to the English server! It's Awesome!"


Yeah remarkable isnt it? Exactly how I said it would be :p all it takes is one man, and hordes follow. Like sheep to their shephard

[makarios68]

It's funny watching the evolution of reactions to this thread.

From "Are you crazy? No I WON'T go to the new server!" To "Unless something something is done!" To "Hmm..... the new server seems to be a nice idea after all."

In time it will turn to "Come to the English server! It's Awesome!"

I have read the whole of this thread and i haven't noticed the 'evolution' you talk of.

As far as i can gather, many english speakers on Ra still want to transfer their chars across, and don't want to start from scratch on the new server...

[UmarilsStillHere]

I have read the whole of this thread and i haven't noticed the 'evolution' you talk of.

As far as i can gather, many english speakers on Ra still want to transfer their chars across, and don't want to start from scratch on the new server...

The ONLY ones who would want to do that are

People whos char is lower that 30ish

People who want to try and "be the best" (wont be unless you but master scroll adn 200% boosts and are a barb/mage)

People who realy get some strange kick out of wanting to spend 100's of hours grinding again...

People who hate the holas hate their realm and hate well everyone and want to start over under a new name so as to lose the "hate" they have attatched to their name

[Valorius]

This is exactly what we are trying to do.
You're trying to let the english community in RA die out and have all those players leave as the english community dwindles to nothing over time?

No offense, but that seems entirely counterproductive to me.

I only hope that now english players will not be treated like germans on RA. Many spanish players offend them for playing on international server and using german on general chat.
Clearly NGD doesn't really care about the current veteran players. They are obviously willing to let us die out so that RA will become all spanish over time.

If they cared about the veteran players, they'd transfer our accounts to the new server, like WoW does ALL THE TIME.

Oh well.

I have read the whole of this thread and i haven't noticed the 'evolution' you talk of.
Agreed.

As far as i can gather, many english speakers on Ra still want to transfer their chars across, and don't want to start from scratch on the new server...
I've already said our entire guild is not moving, but would have if migration was available.

I think this is a very foolish business decision on NGD's part, but hey, it's their money to lose.

[GIGO305]

ok i got a question...if i go to english server and play a bit will my Ra account be deleted or can i got 1 char 1 server aand another in the other unafected (except for the xim ofcourse)

[CumeriTarenes]

ok i got a question...if i go to english server and play a bit will my Ra account be deleted or can i got 1 char 1 server aand another in the other unafected (except for the xim ofcourse)


I think you will be able to play on both servers with one account. So you even can choose another realm on new server and still keep your old characters.
Xymerin are account and not server based. That would mean your xymerin is transferred to every character of this account, regardless on which server the character is bound.

[CHeesE_13]

so im guessing no one knows the name of the new server??
lol
some one should make some guesses...

and wat time is it going to be online tomorrow? i hope at midnight..
i miss regnum.

[Miraculix]

so im guessing no one knows the name of the new server??
lol
some one should make some guesses...
Iris? Anubis? Hathor? Sekhmet? Nut? Geb? Osiris? Seth? Horus? Isis? Thoth? Ma'at? Bastet?

One of those :p

[tharla]

I think if NGD doesn't move characters to the new English servers, you'll see lots of english speakers playing also on Ra for a while. NGD should consider moving the characters as an easy way to create a community right away. Surely NGD noticed that it's harder to get players in if there's nobody there already!

Also, it seems a lot like an attempt to encourage older players to pay Ximeren for the Level-30 scroll.

NGD, please clarify if you are planning on providing any "encouragement" for us higher levels to move away from Ra.

Please also give us a rationale for why you're not allowing us to move characters, or any other possibilities.

Thanks

[ArcticWolf]

I think if NGD doesn't move characters to the new English servers, you'll see lots of english speakers playing also on Ra for a while. NGD should consider moving the characters as an easy way to create a community right away. Surely NGD noticed that it's harder to get players in if there's nobody there already!

Also, it seems a lot like an attempt to encourage older players to pay Ximeren for the Level-30 scroll.

NGD, please clarify if you are planning on providing any "encouragement" for us higher levels to move away from Ra.

Please also give us a rationale for why you're not allowing us to move characters, or any other possibilities.

Thanks

Please, refer yourself to the following post: http://regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showpost.php?p=476972&postcount=163

There's no official, 100% exact announcement made yet. I suppose they're going to implement the char migration.

[Silver_Hawk4]

If you can have chars on both servers and RA does "die out" then wouldn't that mean NGD had it right all along??? It would only happen if english users CHOOSE it to, not NGD "Forcing" it. They're giving us a choice of a NEW SERVER ppl(which has been suggested in NUMEROUS threads) and some are still not happy. NGD is not dumb.

/Start_Speculation Perhaps if after a while the server it still underpopulated and unused then they will consider Migration...But not right off the bat...If possible by letting you move Individual Characters so you don't lose any work you put in if you did create one or two chars initially...(i.e. Copy SilverHawkecj to an empty char slot on English server.) /End_Speculation

But if not, oh well. There's still RA...

[Hydroxidee]

Will the server be up at midnight???

[phoenix_jackson]

That's the problem. They didn't announce the time they will launch it (I think). Oh the torture of waiting.

[mute]

I think they will start it, after the downtime of RA.

Maybe they make a copy of RA, remove all chars and then the new server can start.

[mute]

I think in about 9 hours we can create our new chars...

:beerchug:

[UmarilsStillHere]

And were did you get that from...?

or just yet another random guess worthy of the realm chat spam pit?

[-Edge-]

I think in about 9 hours we can create our new chars...

:beerchug:
Wiii Mute? You'll be coming too :D ?

And were did you get that from...?

or just yet another random guess worthy of the realm chat spam pit?

Because atm its 9:15 AM in Argentina, they said Ra will be down for 2 hours to copy the data and stuff, that said that starts at 12, making it 2 hours. Meaning 2PM Buenos Aires time, making it 6PM my time XD

[_dracus_]

In the end I think I'm happy not to move. There are some good Holas outthere and I don't want to leave them alone. And they'll miss my crazy "WTF I died again ?"

[-Edge-]

In the end I think I'm happy not to move. There are some good Holas outthere and I don't want to leave them alone. And they'll miss my crazy "WTF I died again ?"
In the end I think NGD would allow migration anyway, probably when the server seems to be at the level of the players on Ra, whch could be months, weeks, who knows.

P.S. Woot 1,200 post

[UmarilsStillHere]

Because atm its 9:15 AM in Argentina, they said Ra will be down for 2 hours to copy the data and stuff, that said that starts at 12, making it 2 hours. Meaning 2PM Buenos Aires time, making it 6PM my time XD

Makes sence :)

(characters pleease? for all the perfectly valid reasons that have allready beeen stated in this thread also see my "whos moveing thread" theres a fair few who will move with transfers and once they go all the "only if others do" will proberly come too :}?)

[-Edge-]

Im interested in how the people in this server will play, I mean if there will be 1000 syrtis like on Ra, and few alsuis. I wonder if the players will be like from Runescape

[mute]

Yeah, that was also my idea.

RA goes down. They copy the data to the new server and remove all chars.
Then first RA comes up and the new server a little bit later.

And yes, I will make me some Chars in Ignis there. I don't know if I completely move to the the new server cause I have 2 Level 50 chars to play on RA.

Also I am not sure if we get so great battles there as on RA.

[-Edge-]

Also I am not sure if we get so great battles there as on RA.
We'll make great battles :sifflote:

I just hope that it dosent turn out like on Ra with one side having way more players, its not that unbalanced on Ra, but look at Nilfhelm, with the Syrtis.

Still things like that take months to figure out. People don't go into Warzone on day 1, it will probably be a month on the new server before even the slightest battles start.

I expect some 50-100 people on day 1 though, I guess lag won't be a problem

[mute]

I Hope we have enough Mobs in the initiation area after the start... ;)

[-Edge-]

I Hope we have enough Mobs in the initiation area after the start... ;)
:eek: thats right

HEY THATS MY TINY BLACK BEETLE

[KappaKing]

Me and most my english friends have decided to stay AT RA.

the new english server first: wont have enough players and it will become boring, eveeryone is stressing that english will die out in RA,, did the german guardians leave even after there german server reached 200+ppl,, no, so forget it, ngd just wants to make more money, they like saying this: "come come little fishies and buy scrolls , fresh start hehehe". forget it, enlgish will never die out in RA, plus think of this:

if u were first time player and saw: english server -100pl,, and RA International server -800ppl,,, which one would u join, obviously the more the better so im staying here! =)

MYTHO- THE KNIGHT-:lightsabre: :metal:

[CHeesE_13]

:eek: thats right

HEY THATS MY TINY BLACK BEETLE
lol thats how im going to be..
i hate being in a group unless at war.:sifflote:

[Dark_Barbarian]

well i dont give a crap what u ppl say im going to the new englesh sever to try it out and ngd whants u to go to the new sever to try it out so im going.



P.S ngd its augest 5 now i want to try the new sever when u r done

[Pizdzius]

oooh sweet. Imagine how everyone makes a race to hit Tiny Tarantulas

I guess warriors will be left out when archers and mages hit from distance :sifflote:

[CHeesE_13]

they wont stand a chance...
lol the frist few lvls are going to be boring..
but im going for it.

[mute]

oooh sweet. Imagine how everyone makes a race to hit Tiny Tarantulas

I guess warriors will be left out when archers and mages hit from distance :sifflote:

That's why I make an archer first...


:juggle:

[UmarilsStillHere]

I Hope we have enough Mobs in the initiation area after the start... ;)
I have been saying that for ages... also think off all the players in the "first" citys? and the lag it would create?

[Pizdzius]

I have been saying that for ages... also think off all the players in the "first" citys? and the lag it would create?

I doubt there will be 800 players at the same time in newbie cities. I'd rather say it will be about 400 divided by three ^^ buehahaha.

[CHeesE_13]

lol im goign to avoid large groups of players...
and the good thing is unlike ra...everyone is going to speak english on the new server...so i can tell them how i feel about them stealing my mobs...and i know there going to understand me... lol u yell at someone on ra...u never know if they know... becuz of the whole english spanish thing...:lightsabre:

[Pizdzius]

lol im goign to avoid large groups of players...
and the good thing is unlike ra...everyone is going to speak english on the new server...so i can tell them how i feel about them stealing my mobs...and i know there going to understand me... lol u yell at someone on ra...u never know if they know... becuz of the whole english spanish thing...:lightsabre:

I learned to yell in spanish

[CHeesE_13]

I learned to yell in spanish

i only learned a few things in spanish and i can never remeber how to spell them..
so when i wanna be like here warrior.. im always like aca 1 lol

[phoenix_jackson]

Me and most my english friends have decided to stay AT RA.

the new english server first: wont have enough players and it will become boring, eveeryone is stressing that english will die out in RA,, did the german guardians leave even after there german server reached 200+ppl,, no, so forget it, ngd just wants to make more money, they like saying this: "come come little fishies and buy scrolls , fresh start hehehe". forget it, enlgish will never die out in RA, plus think of this:

if u were first time player and saw: english server -100pl,, and RA International server -800ppl,,, which one would u join, obviously the more the better so im staying here! =)

MYTHO- THE KNIGHT-:lightsabre: :metal:
Actually you got a point. I wouldn't worry about English community dieing in RA. New players could still choose International. The title itself looks more interesting. But they could also be put of by the overwhelming Spanish language in realm chat at the start of the game. Unless, ofcourse, if there happened to be some english speaking people around.

[Pizdzius]

I hope the server's new name will be Ptah, so it fits to Ra and Amun ;D

[CumeriTarenes]

call it Aton when you think english community on Ra will die out...

[Adrian]

Hi Community,

It will be called Horus (cheers for Miraculix for guessing again) and will be launched today at 13:00 (GMT-3).

Regards,

[phoenix_jackson]

Now THAT is a post. You could have announced it earlier (way earlier) so I could have set my alarm clock. Could have invested a little sleep too.

Cheese, wake me up at 1 am my time ok?

[Dark_Barbarian]

horus, u mean the egyptian god of vengeance cool

[makarios68]

How do we access the new server?

[Dark_Barbarian]

How do we access the new server?

may be it will be put under the test server when u log in

[CHeesE_13]

Now THAT is a post. You could have announced it earlier (way earlier) so I could have set my alarm clock. Could have invested a little sleep too.

Cheese, wake me up at 1 am my time ok?
lol i dont even know when 3- gmt is for me.. :(
im in texas soo...
if some one could tell me id be so happY!

[CumeriTarenes]

How do we access the new server?

yes, it will be displayed after loging in in the window in which you can enter Amun and Ra. If you have a NGD account german servers are there displayed too, that's why I guess it works this way

[makarios68]

lol i dont even know when 3- gmt is for me.. :(
im in texas soo...
if some one could tell me id be so happY!
About 3pm - but i'm not certain...

[CHeesE_13]

im to lazy
lol nvm its like noon for me yay!!
3 more hours :(

[makarios68]

yes, it will be displayed after loging in in the window in which you can enter Amun and Ra. If you have a NGD account german servers are there displayed too, that's why I guess it works this way
I don't have the German servers displayed there when i log in.

Does everyone else?

[CHeesE_13]

I don't have the German servers displayed there when i log in.

Does everyone else?
nope i dont:sleep_1:

the wait is killing meh.

[CumeriTarenes]

I don't have the German servers displayed there when i log in.

Does everyone else?

as I said german servers are only displayed when you have a Gamigo Account, that means usually only people from german speaking countries.

[phoenix_jackson]

11:00 pm of the 5th now (tuesday). GMT +9. THIS is Asia! and yeah I don't see the german servers too..... was wondering about that before.

[CumeriTarenes]

A kind of abuse I see in the new server is that people could use names of well known Ra characters and pretend to be the player who owns the Ra character.

But we'll see

[mute]

OK, finished my work...

Now I am going home...

See you on Horus then...

[phoenix_jackson]

/me cast Arcane Devotion on Time..... or maybe just my clock.:p

A kind of abuse I see in the new server is that people could use names of well known Ra characters and pretend to be the player who owns the Ra character.

But we'll see

I haven't thought of that. Now you gave me an idea. /me uses CT's char name in Horus.... he he..... Or maybe a green elf Edge? ..... Or maybe a goat Valorius Rageway?.... Oh well. We'll see.

[Adrian]

ngd is in the forum can u answer the question about how to switch servers?

Horus will appear in the launcher's server list.

Regards,

[mute]

Well, it seems that german users aren't allowed on Horus.

So I'll have to stay on RA.

[Heglin]

message for Znurre and the others in the Valhalla clan.. Tell me you WONT move to the new server T_T

I won't move, 1: too many ppl i would miss, 2: No way i'd start grinding again. I guess most of the clan will stay on RA.

[serginho]

Horus will appear in the launcher's server list.

Regards,

it doesnt appear me, in the launcher i only see the ra server an amun yet :S

[mute]

it doesnt appear me, in the launcher i only see the ra server an amun yet :S


You are living in the wrong country, just as me.

[G40st]

Same here.. dont see the server in the list... even though i live in sweden and the server is based here but hey.. guess im stuck on ra then :angel1:

[Pizdzius]

congratulations, a bunch of people from europe can't join Horus :thumb_up:

[NightTwix]

congratulations, a bunch of people from europe can't join Horus :thumb_up:

hey, who would have guessed that NGD messes up in the first try ;)

[Xarn]

Can't join Horus also. I'm working in germany for months now, wrong country I guess. Next month I have a two weeks job in Czechia, then it may work. But wait, after my company send me to Austria, uhm...
I've been waiting for this new start in an english speaking community since I've dropped my gamigo-account (no, I'm not a german, only working there), now it seems I have to say bye.

[Adrian]

Hi Community,

We fixed the problem with regular accounts from Austria, Germany, Switzerland.

Please try again if you can access Horus now.

Regards,

[ExtremeCoder]

So I take it account migration is not an option? :(
Maybe some people play Regnum Online the whole day with nothing else to do, but what about people who play for an hour or two a day, or less, like me? Why should I have to spend so much time just to reach my previous level. Especially that my main char is a knight, I spent so much time lvling him to 25 :/
And for those who're saying this server will be just noobs, so no lvl 50s, fresh starts and stuff, I say give it a month or two, and it will be like Ra server. Lvl 50s will again rule the WZ, and the same camping issues will arise there again.

[Flep]

Horus Doesnt show up in The Netherlands

[CumeriTarenes]

How am I supposed to join the new server?
Clanmate told me I have to create a new account. Please tell me if this is right, because I am not allowed to create a new account before I delete my current one...

[Adrian]

How am I supposed to join the new server?
Clanmate told me I have to create a new account. Please tell me if this is right, because I am not allowed to create a new account before I delete my current one...

If you're posting in this forums you should be able to enter Horus.

Regards,

[UmarilsStillHere]

you can use your current account to log in but you need to make new characters

[Adrian]

Horus Doesnt show up in The Netherlands

Are you trying to access the game with this or another account?

[CumeriTarenes]

If you're posting in this forums you should be able to enter Horus.

Regards,


Hmm, strange. I tried my gamigo and my NGD account to enter Horus when Ra was still down and Horus up. In both cases it did not show up. Now it only shows up in my NGD account, not in my Gamigo Account.

[UmarilsStillHere]

No migration, No XP boost, nada just plain new server thanks NGD could we at least have premium migration i allready know 4 players who would pay for that...

Or a XP boost...

Something... Anything... no...

[Flep]

Are you trying to access the game with this or another account?

With this account