Slow backward running?

[Comp]

What's up with the slow backward running?? That ain't cool

[Nikor]

You're right. Not cool at all.

[S_N_I_P_E_R]

All classes rely on being able to walk backwards they have made this impossable with the new update, archers dont have a chance against the warrior class now, NGD please reverse this

[_dracus_]

I look forward to test this update, I find the idea very attractive. I think I will more suffer from that on my training warlock and my barbarian than my hunter. I really need to test it. However the idea sound good to me.

EDIT: Hu, in fact not that good idea.

[misaccc]

All classes rely on being able to walk backwards they have made this impossable with the new update, archers dont have a chance against the warrior class now, NGD please reverse this

HAHAHAHAHA!
Dude i dont think it was ever intended for archers to run backwards with escapist and fill warriors with arrows...you still keep your speed and evasion...not a big loss imo

[Twinkle1]

NGD this no running backward is not good infact it sucks big time.
i am hopeing that this an error on your part and will be sorted soon.
plaese dont tell me its going to stay :dumbofme:

[Adrian]

Hi Community,

This change was needed and we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game.

For more information about Kiting, check this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_(MMORPG_term) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28MMORPG_term%29)

Regards,

[BlooD]

Everybody knows relying in luck its way better than using kite or tactics like that.

So the way to go its the lovely guys who stand in front of you using only attack spells.

Whats next, removing knock/dizzy/stun/freeze?

[fluffy_muffin]

Hi Community,

This change was needed and we never

Cool. So it will not be reversed and i can delete my chars? Cause i will not use 5 lvl sotw only cause NGD after 1 year realized that they never wanted to make something work like it was.

[Twinkle1]

Well im affraid NGD get a bag of red karma points for this one.
love's ya guys but this sucks.

[Malik2]

I see you point about kiting a mob. At the same time archers have to face knights and barbarians that do considerably more damage than mobs. At lvl 42 I can still be killed in three hits by many barbarians, it takes me way more than three arrows to down a barb. Backing up has become a feature of the game through creating balance between archers and HTH classes.

[Comp]

My problem exactly....take away part of our mobility but give us nothing in return. Whilst barbarians still can one-hit kill people, and knights have infinite blocks. Way to go :D

[sathilda]

Just play the damn game, adjusts your tactics, and shutup. - Refetan (http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=224705&postcount=1)

Gpomal never talk on these forums, but come on irc and ask him what he thinks about that. Coming from one of the best marks of RO maybe you will have another view about it ;)

[fluffy_muffin]

Everybody knows relying in luck its way better than using kite or tactics like that.

Neah better is to zerg ppl in big hunting party. It is all about gameplay so all hunters unite and kill ppl in big groups.
I stoped hunting on knights cause it was stupid with my setup, now i should also stop hunting on barbs. Or maybe i should stick to camu and finish lvlers.
No thnx. I have only 1 knockdown. Avg barb have 2 + immobilize skills. And RO is such game where v. easy barb can EVADE ambush, ensnaring arrow, stunning fist, normal hit, dual shot. And hit me for 1700 every 6 sec. so if NGD want force me to use SOTW and Spell elude then thnx but i don't want.
It looks like it will not be changed so it is my last post here. I will remove Fingon an my conj. Fluffy remain inactive.
Bye bye.

[BlooD]

Just play the damn game, adjusts your tactics, and shutup. - Refetan (http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=224705&postcount=1)

Gpomal never talk on these forums, but come on irc and ask him what he thinks about that. Coming from one of the best marks of RO maybe you will have another view about it ;)
Who needs to kite when you only stand in front of people while you hope to evade/resist while you only use attack spells.

[Inkster]

Backwards running?

I walk more like i crapped my pants :fury:

This seriously is not good nor is it fun for anyone, why on earth you guys at ngd thought i was a good idea is beyond me :thumb_down:

[Comp]

No offense to Gpomal, but his tactic is to tank...he uses high strategic pos, evasive tactics, confuse, and sotw. He "doesn't avoid" getting hit as much as just takes it.

[Mellion]

I can only say that the Aura-Spammers won the fight for the hearts off the ngd-development.

I could play on two WoW-Accounts for free. But I didn't because - till now - the pvp-system WAS superior.

[NightTwix]

there a slight difference between preventing kiting and crippling 2/3 of the classes

[Pizdzius]

there a slight difference between preventing kiting and crippling 2/3 of the classes

i'd say 3/3

[Mellion]

i'd say 3/3

3/3 exactly! yep 6/6.

[Myxir]

3/3 exactly!
And if you put much efford in it, it could easily be 6/3.

Worst change ever.

[cs42]

This change was needed and we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game.

So what? It is a feature of the "not anymore called beta" version for a year now and everyone is used in their gameplay to it.

What I really dislike is, that you frequently change the balance of the game, even though you call it "not beta anymore".

And BTW: casting lag, positioning lag and heavy FPS drop is still as before. Fun is dropping in this game...

[Ente81]

All off my chars are moving so slowly. There is a need for an instant hot fix. I can't play that way.

[Myxir]

All off my chars are moving so slowly. There is a need for an instant hot fix. I can't play that way.

With the new 1337 melee archer this is no problem.

[backe]

I REALLLLY feel bad for anyone leveling a hunter now. People say knights are the most difficult to level, which I've had my doubts about for quite a while. Now this is absolute proof that hunters have it the worst.

Way to go NGD...:tsk_tsk:

There are so many simple bugs that could be hot-fixed to greatly improve Regnum, and there are so many good ideas that come out of the suggestions forums and you choose to implement nerf after nerf; fatigue, increase xp requirements, and now this. The only thing you've offered us since the beginning of this year has been mostly cosmetic or involving premium items. The only positive change I can think of has been the modification to Camo.

Please, NGD, I urge you to discontinue this type of "development". In the long run, I don't think it will be beneficial to the Regnum community, or NGD.

[Bully]

Two threads, same topic. (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28144)

Hi Community,

This change was needed and we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game.

For more information about Kiting, check this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_(MMORPG_term) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28MMORPG_term%29)

Regards,

This is a pile of crap. Are you really trying to convince the players of this game that it took over SIX YEARS for someone at NGD to realize Kiting wasn't supposed to be possible in this game. (5 yrs development and Beta + over 1 yr since Beta) This is the second time I've seen that same statement come from NGD. THe first being when they took away ranged pets from hunters shortly after open beta. It was the same sorry excuse. Why is it there have been numerous adaptations and direction changes over the life of this game but suddenly when it's convenient to say, 'It wasn't in the original plan.', there can be no wandering from the initial game blueprint. Ngd is doing anything and everything they can do make leveling in this game impossible without premium. Three monumental decisions that stand out in my mind are the huge changes in party leveling about a year ago, the Fatique fiasco, and now this. I'm sure others can name more. There are so many issues that players want to see addressed, not the least of which is lag, but NGD decides there are more important things to deal with that, as far as I can tell, no one has ever brought up as a problem. So in all honesty, why take this ability away from characters? "we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game" doesn't fly. There were no complaints from players, it certainly isn't cheating, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't cause lag. So all I can see is someone decided, "Hey, we can't let those players enjoy a good thing. We'd better take that away." Thanks for nothing. I enjoyed talking to old friends for the last 2 weeks. Back to 2Moons for me where ALL the premium is optional and where there's little or no lag with thousands on-line at any given time.

[Mellion]

Hi Community,

This change was needed and we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game.

For more information about Kiting, check this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_(MMORPG_term) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28MMORPG_term%29)

Regards,

After 14 month AFTER the beta and leveling 3 lvl 50 chars calling this a non-feature is a joke.

[CumeriTarenes]

Calm down a bit and try to play as it is now I say. I think we will get used to it.


Edit: Thx for red karma, whoever you are :)

[Nikor]

Calm down a bit and try to play as it is now I say. I think we will get used to it.

I actually got used to it a bit playing my lvl 50 conjurer in wars. There it doesn't make that much of a difference, but I will still have to adapt. My lv 48 hunter can get to 50 in larger leveling parties, so that is not that much of a problem for me.

BUT I noticed there is still that positioning bug that gives you the message that you are "not facing the enemy" when you are standing right in front of it and, of course, facing it. That makes leveling ranged classes with normal hits more of a PITA than before.

[Valour]

Lol I just played on my conjurer and I am used to running around alot during a fight, I can't do it as efficiently now :)

[Valorius]

All classes rely on being able to walk backwards they have made this impossable with the new update, archers dont have a chance against the warrior class now, NGD please reverse this
Well considering that NGD didn't change the knight block rates(which are so blatantly bad that a child can see it's screwed up) and didn't nerf SC or excessive barb damage in any way, one must conclude that NGD WANTS Warriors to dominate.

[Valorius]

I look forward to test this update, I find the idea very attractive. I think I will more suffer from that on my training warlock and my barbarian than my hunter. I really need to test it. However the idea sound good to me.
They already tried this idea once, it was a total disaster.

No need to play test anything.

No offense to Gpomal, but his tactic is to tank...he uses high strategic pos, evasive tactics, confuse, and sotw. He "doesn't avoid" getting hit as much as just takes it.
Exactly. I hit gpomal for like 30 dmg per arrow.

That's skill pm his part? Hardly. Marksmen are just the best tanks in the game...with the longest range and the best offense.

NGD has screwed this game up SO bad since i started playing, it's almost as if it was a deliberate attempt to ruin the game.

Two threads, same topic. (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28144)



This is a pile of crap. Are you really trying to convince the players of this game that it took over SIX YEARS for someone at NGD to realize Kiting wasn't supposed to be possible in this game. (5 yrs development and Beta + over 1 yr since Beta) This is the second time I've seen that same statement come from NGD. THe first being when they took away ranged pets from hunters shortly after open beta. It was the same sorry excuse. Why is it there have been numerous adaptations and direction changes over the life of this game but suddenly when it's convenient to say, 'It wasn't in the original plan.', there can be no wandering from the initial game blueprint. Ngd is doing anything and everything they can do make leveling in this game impossible without premium. Three monumental decisions that stand out in my mind are the huge changes in party leveling about a year ago, the Fatique fiasco, and now this. I'm sure others can name more. There are so many issues that players want to see addressed, not the least of which is lag, but NGD decides there are more important things to deal with that, as far as I can tell, no one has ever brought up as a problem. So in all honesty, why take this ability away from characters? "we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game" doesn't fly. There were no complaints from players, it certainly isn't cheating, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't cause lag. So all I can see is someone decided, "Hey, we can't let those players enjoy a good thing. We'd better take that away." Thanks for nothing. I enjoyed talking to old friends for the last 2 weeks. Back to 2Moons for me where ALL the premium is optional and where there's little or no lag with thousands on-line at any given time.
+10000

If i could give you 10,000 positive Karma points for this post, i would.

This is like a SPIT IN THE FACE from NGD.

14 month AFTER the beta and leveling 3 lvl 50 chars calling this a non-feature is a joke.
Someone clearly needs to explain to NGD what the term BETA means.

Here you go guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BETA

[_dracus_]

Well considering that NGD didn't change the knight block rates(which are so blatantly bad that a child can see it's screwed up) and didn't nerf SC or excessive barb damage in any way, one must conclude that NGD WANTS Warriors to dominate.

Maybe, All I can say is that Archers were ruling the world since the downlfall of Warlocks in november 07. Things change :angel2:

[Miraculix]

Last time this was implemented, it felt like range had no meaning at all in the game. Now, it's even is slower. No use in range. Barbs are on your face in split seconds. Probably not a good idea.

I'm gonna try it out, but seeing as in the first 5 hours 10 or more lvl50 players have announced they quit the game in the english section of the forums alone, I'd say this is A DAMN GOOD TIME to show just how much "community driven" the development is.

I'd imagine the number of players quitting are much higher considering the spanish section and all the people not using the forums. People like magnet are probably the only ones happy with the change.

[BlooD]

People like magnet are probably the only ones happy with the change.

You mean bad and malefic french people or just people who doesnt like archers like you do?

Because no one hates archers more than me and i dont like this change.

So i guess you mean the bad and malefic french people.

I hate them too, they wasted our fruit long ago.

What is an archer like me like? oO

Was editing it, you were too fast xD

[Miraculix]

What is an archer like me like? oO

[Valorius]

Maybe, All I can say is that Archers were ruling the world since the downlfall of Warlocks in november 07. Things change :angel2:
Yes they do. I am leaving Regnum until this change is removed. There's change for you.

[magnet]

I'd imagine the number of players quitting are much higher considering the spanish section and all the people not using the forums. People like magnet are probably the only ones happy with the change.

Best. Change. EVER! :lol:

You mean bad and malefic french people or just people who doesnt like archers like you do?

Because no one hates archers more than me and i dont like this change.

So i guess you mean the bad and malefic french people.

I hate them too, they wasted our fruit long ago.


Wasted fruits? Wtf are you talking about? :D

[BlooD]

Yes they do. I am leaving Regnum until this change is removed. There's change for you.

Again?

This same thing again? Each time you dont like anything you leave and after no thing changes you come back?

I mean, we all know how this ends.

Wasted fruits? Wtf are you talking about? :D

Dont act like you dont remember, its deep on our hearts and its stills pain.

http://www.elmundo.es/papel/hemeroteca/1996/04/27/economia/104842.html

Its in spanish but who cares. 1996 btw.

[Valorius]

@BLOOD: I was gone for THREE MONTHS+ the ONLY time i left Regnum, and all kinds of stuff was changed while i was gone.

WTF are you talking about flame artist? Grow up child.

[Miraculix]

Again?

This same thing again? Each time you dont like anything you leave and after no thing changes you come back?

I mean, we all know how this ends.



Dont act like you dont remember, its deep on our hearts and its stills pain.

http://www.elmundo.es/papel/hemeroteca/1996/04/27/economia/104842.html

Its in spanish but who cares.

...boomheadshot?

think so.

[Valorius]

Can't read spanish, have no idea at all what that article says.

[BlooD]

Can't read english, had no idea it wasnt for me.

Fixed it for you.

[magnet]

...boomheadshot?

think so.

I rather think someone doesn't understand 2nd degree here :D.

[Miraculix]

I rather think someone doesn't understand 2nd degree here :D.

I think someone here didn't understand it was valorius who got the boomheadshot.

But you're funny, keep making a fool out of yourself :metal:

[Valorius]

How did i get a boom headshot? Did i deliver it, or have it delivered upon me?

All i saw was blood blatantly flame me like a small little punk child.

[magnet]

I think someone here didn't understand it was valorius who got the boomheadshot.

But you're funny, keep making a fool out of yourself :metal:

Beh, quote properly then :).
And I love being funny and especially making a fool out of myself :D.

[Miraculix]

How did i get a boom headshot? Did i deliver it, or have it delivered upon me?

All i saw was blood blatantly flame me like a small little punk child.

C'mon, it was nicely delivered sarcasm, you need to have the class to acknowledge that ;)

[Valorius]

Again?

This same thing again? Each time you dont like anything you leave and after no thing changes you come back?

I mean, we all know how this ends.
Sarcasm?

I've only left the game once. Are you saying he was actually agreeing with me? I sure didn't get that at all.

[_dracus_]

Ok to clarify things, I don't like this change, I have some reason not to like it and it's not really more my playing style with barb and lock that are about it.

My archer is mixed long/short bow so I start from range then swap going forward usually. If I need to fall back then I have SotW. I know it's only my style that make me less incline to say ARCHER GOT SCREWED.

So I don't like it, and you guys don't like it. I'm still gonna play for now, but I'm sad with everyone's leaving the game won't be the same.

Please NGD, I'm not quiting, but revert this moving backward change, people don't like it, and it's changing the game because people are leaving.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Hi Community,

This change was needed and we never intended Kiting to become a feature of the game.

For more information about Kiting, check this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_(MMORPG_term) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28MMORPG_term%29)

Regards,
kiting was already stopped between pvps when backwards running speed was reduced and things like unstoppable madness came into play


NGD WANTS WARRIORS TO DOMINATE
no they don't, the balance team is reassembling as it's said some place else on these forums, someone else also said ngd wants archers to dominate regnum, earlier someone said they want warlocks to dominate regnum.

[Miraculix]

The more I play with this system, the more it feels like marksmen with focus on range like me got the worst deal out of this change. But NGD doesn't really care what I think, do they.

[kylor]

Chill out guys. Seems like there are a lot of changes going on, I'm sure things will be rebalanced soon enough. If you leave over something like this I don't know how you have the patience to play an MMO in the first place.

[Bully]

Hey, is this the greatest upgrade ever or what??? :clapping5365:

[BlooD]

Hey, is this the greatest upgrade ever or what??? :clapping5365:

This is a little child cry compared with the TFB change and the tons of people leaving and crying.

They didnt changed TFB so guess what will happen with this.

[Bully]

Doesn't matter, I won't be here.

[Miraculix]

This is a little child cry compared with the TFB change and the tons of people leaving and crying.

They didnt changed TFB so guess what will happen with this.

People were crying for ages about tanking marksmen. Well, they got a part of what they wanted: This update screwed over max-range focused marksmen. Now most of the forums will be happy soon, and I'll have to a) quit or b) pay them more money to level some other class.

How nice of them.

[BlooD]

People were crying for ages about tanking marksmen. Well, they got a part of what they wanted: This update screwed over max-range focused marksmen. Now most of the forums will be happy soon, and I'll have to a) quit or b) pay them more money to level some other class.

How nice of them.

Well the tanking marksman usually doesnt use his range at all, just goes into range 25 to cast death sentence to kill you fast.

This update screws the kite which is what archers are suposed to do instead of being tanks, i dont see any change in evades/resist so i dont understand your point of we are happy because there is no more tanking archers, now NGD wants every archer as a tank.

So why we have to be happy?

[Miraculix]

Well the tanking marksman usually doesnt use his range at all, just goes into range 25 to cast death sentence to kill you fast.

This update screws the kite which is what archers are suposed to do instead of being tanks, i dont see any change in evades/resist so i dont understand your point of we are happy because there is no more tanking archers, now NGD wants every archer as a tank.

So why we have to be happy?

Not you, you understand what this change actually is. A tanking marks is not a max range marks. But most of the people just see this as an archer nerf and they are happy about that. Everyone hates marksmen, and, as we all know, the one who yells the most wins. So yeah, more happy kids around because they can kill the range marksmen for fun, they are the happy ones.

[Crowbane]

Words just fail me on this. As has been pointed out Hunters, Conju's, Warlocks and Marksmen will now die sooo quickly by the hand of the SC happy Barbs. Nice one, makes all that lvling to get to 50 soooo worthless.


Regards

[e30G]

The game is dumbing down gradually. Now NGD removed one of my favorite aspects of the game, which is the importance of footwork in battles. It seems like we all have to rely on evades and resists now.

[Valorius]

The BIG LOSERS in this update are Mages.

I fought two lvl 50 warlocks in a hunt and and killed both without getting hit a single time. They cannot reverse/turn fast enough to keep me in their firing arcs. So they waste spell after spell as i plowed them in the butt.

Mages are now totally defenseless playthings. SC barbs with max onslaught will now dominate all with impunity.

This update cannot stand.

[Comp]

The BIG LOSERS in this update are Mages.

I fought two lvl 50 warlocks in a hunt and and killed both without getting hit a single time. They cannot reverse/turn fast enough to keep me in their firing arcs. So they waste spell after spell as i plowed them in the butt.

Mages are now totally defenseless playthings. SC barbs with max onslaught will now dominate all with impunity.

This update cannot stand.

Yes, this update was for the SC Monkey....they already dealt single hit kills and now they can do it more efficiently.

[mute]

This update cannot stand.

That's right.

I made a little fight at Samal yesterday and died so quickly because I couldn't run out of the archers range fast enough. Before the update this was no prblem.

So I don't play my Warlock anymore until this is fixed.

I try to level my Marksman a bit in the realm (only for fun) but that's all.

[-Edge-]

I am leaving Regnum until this change is removed. There's change for you See you next month! or week :superpusso:

[-Paradox-]

The BIG LOSERS in this update are Mages.

I fought two lvl 50 warlocks in a hunt and and killed both without getting hit a single time. They cannot reverse/turn fast enough to keep me in their firing arcs. So they waste spell after spell as i plowed them in the butt.

Mages are now totally defenseless playthings. SC barbs with max onslaught will now dominate all with impunity.

This update cannot stand.

Not only the SC barbs will dominate but all barbarians will now dominate the playing field. Me as a barbarian has always wanted this, but not in this manner. Change the walking backwards pace to what it was NGD please.


See you next month! or week :superpusso:

I thought you were against such childish posts. Clearly I was wrong.

[-Edge-]

I thought you were against such childish posts. Clearly I was wrong.
Boo hoo, I state the truth, and I say it how it is.

[Bladnoch]

I try to level my Marksman a bit in the realm (only for fun) but that's all.

Regnum Online as a whole is supposed to be fun. RGD is missing the concept of fun and instead is battering us down with fatigue, reset powers, walking backwards, unbalanced classes and more.
Walking backwards is the last straw to be honest. Not as much fun anymore RGD.

[misaccc]

its NGD:P
and whats wrong with reset powers?

[-Edge-]

and whats wrong with reset powers?
meh, apparently it will cost gold or smthing, but who cares its not done yet.

[-Paradox-]

See you next month! or week :superpusso:


I do not see any truth in this statement what so ever. Just accusations.

[-Edge-]

I do not see any truth in this statement what so ever. Just accusations.

Well I also try to light up the crummy mood of the forums.

[-Paradox-]

Well I also try to light up the crummy mood of the forums.

By taking the piss out of other players? Great thinking. A well thought out process of lightening up the forums. :thumb_up:

[Pizdzius]

its NGD:P
and whats wrong with reset powers?

It's gonna be a premium option after you reset 3 times, from what I know.

[misaccc]

yeah but my point is that it has yet to be implemented...then whine:P

[Pizdzius]

yeah but my point is that it has yet to be implemented...then whine:P

I am not whining :p

[Bully]

Keep in mind there are many MMORPG sites out there that allow users to rate games for other MMORPG fans to read. Here's one (www.mmorpg.com).

[Emmery]

Perhaps if we all quit giving NGD money, maybe they'll start listening to us.

[Kianoni]

:thumb_down: with this update - the game is not playable anymore.

[BlooD]

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?p=479492#post479492

I am sure you dont need translation.

Slow backward change will be reverted.

[Miraculix]

yes i just babelfished it and chilko is posting the change now in english too :)

[Valour]

I can play!

[-Edge-]

I am leaving Regnum until this change is removed. There's change for you
See you next month! or week :superpusso:
Even sooner, what did I tell you XD :sifflote:

[Adrian]

Hi Community,

Given the current changes, please continue this topic in this official thread (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=28225).

Regards,