Marksman or Hunter?

[Hexxl]

Okay, so. I'm new to the game, and I'm not sure which to pick, hunter, or marksman.

I have a few questions, please feel free to answer them:
Which class is more rewarding?
Which is faster at leveling?
What are the pros and cons of each class?
What sort of animals can a hunter tame?
Are the pets useful in PvP?
Which has a higher damage output?
Which is more feared on the battlefield?
What are some special abilities of each class?

Please try to keep your answers as unbiased as possible. Thank you.

[Valorius]

Forum search, this topic has been covered EXTENSIVELY of late.

[Hexxl]

Okay.
So after searching I'm able to answer one question.
Marksman has the higher damage output.

Which class is more rewarding?
Which is faster at leveling?
What are the pros and cons of each class?
What sort of animals can a hunter tame?
Are the pets useful in PvP?
Which is more feared on the battlefield?

Are all still unanswered.

[LenaRosemberg]

The most rewarding is the one who suits your style.
I think hunter and marks level at the same speed. Hunters alone with pets seem faster to me and Marks with mana support faster.
Pros of Marks : Nice defense, some speed, lot of damages, can really help a quick death with Death Sentence.
Cons of Marks : Vulnerable with no but, soon out of mana, not enough speed to hunt alone.
Pros of Hunters : Speed, Invisibility, Pet (? I like playing with petless players), surviving extreme situations (there is second line, front line, front ennemy line and Valorius line :angel1: ), Independant
Cons of Hunters : not so much dmg in fort war.
Animals : Everything around the same level (if enought points spent on it) except what conj can summon.
Pets : I think you can be a great player without pet.
Fearable : If you're a conj, fear both ;) On fort battles, fear marks. When you're lvling alone in warzone, fear hunters.

Hunters are for hunts, marks for fort battle. Depend on what you like the most. (But I think I'm not so bad as a hunt buddie when I have a hunter with me :sifflote: )

[Miraculix]

Actually, I hunt a lot solo. I've learned most of the leveling spots in both enemy realms and my range usually can make up for the lack of speed, meaning I can usually catch people that try to run away from me. But I cannot run away from a hunter, or a group of enemies that have a barb with them.

I'm lvling a hunter on Horus now that my marksman on ra is almost 50, I think both classes can be very fun.

btw, a marksman with a conju giving him mana constantly can level faster than anyone I think :p

[Hexxl]

Ok. I've decided on Hunter as the class I am going to go.
What should I put my stat points into, and what is a good starting stats?

[El_Naso]

Best starting stats would be dex (increases base damage), then int (more mana, faster mana regeneration. Hunters depend on smart mana management to some excent) and then constitution (more life and better knockdown resistance, though not so noticeable on archers as it is on knights).

I say go for dex, you can increase other stats with items later on. Don´t worry too much.

[Hexxl]

Alright. Will do. What are some key skills, or abilities, that I should see to taking?

[El_Naso]

Tricks no less than lvl 5, get at least the first 3 spells, they are basic for any hunter setup. Ambush lvl 2 if possible.

Then bows. This one is a bit longer :P

Both types of bows are good but longs have some complications like shield pierce damage, wich isn´t functional to your lvl and damage potential but to the skill level so sometimes like at lvls 18 to 20 shield pierce lvl 2 (maximum level until 21) will hit more or less the same than a normal shot. Also none of the skills is useful to lvl except for break apart (the seventh skill in the Lb tree). I really prefer putting points in short bows (you can still use a long bow to fire more powerfoul normal shots and waste less arrows). Short bows do less damage, but have two great skills at low level in the mastery tree: dual shot, wich feeds from your weapon damage and adds a little more, making always more damage than your average, and lightness, wich increases base dex and therefore, damage. Unlike Manuver, lightness is passive, wich means you don´t have to cast it, ever. It´s with you all the time and it´s points well spent.

Phew.

And then pets, that´s really important. Tame lesser creatures is for wasps, beetles, spiders, snakes, you know, bugs and small stuff. Tame beasts allows you to capture animals, wolves, bears, hienas, pumas, that stuff. Control monsters is for ciclops, tol-tars, gol-tars, thralls, orcs, gargoyles and such. If you get the "you do not have the required level to tame this creature" sign it´s one of two things: you didn´t put enough points in the tame skill or the moster is two or more levels higher than you. As a general rule, only tame mobs you see normal.

Next question? :P

[Comp]

Okay.
So after searching I'm able to answer one question.
Marksman has the higher damage output.

Which class is more rewarding?
Which is faster at leveling?
What are the pros and cons of each class?
What sort of animals can a hunter tame?
Are the pets useful in PvP?
Which is more feared on the battlefield?

Are all still unanswered.

I'll try to answer. I only have a hunter but I have fought many markmen:

1. Which class is more rewarding?
This is tough as it depends on what you mean. Marksment are HUGE damage dealers but are slow. Hunters are very fast with the ability to stalk and wait for the right time to attack. I have always been a "stalker" so I perfer the hunter.

2. Which is faster at leveling?
I leveled my hunter to lvl 50 in 2 weeks (before fatigue). If don't right you can level non-stop with a hunter. I have never leveled a marks...but they burn though mana.

3. Taming and usefullness in PVP?
You can tame anything with a very few exceptions. Can't tame ghosts which suck :D As for pvp....I think I do quite well with a pet. I'm able to take on 3 or 4 vs me. A clan mate and I have a standing record of 9 at once....all lvl 45+

4. Feared in battle??
This isn't a class thing it's a player thing. There are some marksmen that are really tough (Gpomal), but there are many marksmen that run when they see me. So it really depends on the name you make for yourself.

Good luck regardless of which way you go...

[Valorius]

I've beaten 4 lvl 50s at the same time, alone with no ptet.

You don't need a ptet. Use the points on yourself, you will always have them with you.

[El_Naso]

I never really tried a leveling configuration without pet. Is it really better?

[Valorius]

I did most of my leveling without a ptet when ptets were a lot better than they are now. A good 30/med bow with lvl 5 ensnare and you can kite a mob never getting hit with just 1 or 2 ensnares per mob. If you can do it with 1, you never have to rest.

And of course ping-ponging requires no pet at all.

[Valorius]

Sometimes ptets are bad- especially big ptets. In this fight Aiksha was unable to target me because i attacked from invisible(stalker) and used her ptet's big fat body to block her ability to click on me. By the time she managed to finally select me, it was all but over.

You can see the result below. Big ptets are bad.

The name listed above Aiksha's giving 18RP(the max RP for a kill is 18) is Zurich, a lvl 50 marksman. So as you can see, a hunter can beat a marksman, and no pet is needed. You just need a bit of luck and a plan.

1st SS is the Aiksha fight, 2nd is the Zurich fight.

[Valorius]

If you're a hunter and want to use a pet IMO the beastly hyena is -by far- the best overall pet in the game right now. Of all the pets i face, and i face them all, those are the worst ones to face.

[Comp]

I like pets....they keep me warm. Sorry, I don't have screenshots of my kills....I've yet to find a reason to take a screenie....

[bigjim]

haha, I still remember when you used that aquantis elite that time you fought me back at pozo a long long time ago.

[Comp]

haha, I still remember when you used that aquantis elite that time you fought me back at pozo a long long time ago.

HAH - oh the good ole days when the elites were good, great werewolves were awesome, and Ghost Necromancers were the bomb....

[Jedi-x]

God I miss those days ......... Val is right .... you really don't need a pet. I have found that they are useful for leveling, but my "no-orc-fu" set-up was by far my most deadly set-up. I caused more damage alone, than I could with a pet, just ask Val. I think we PvP'd 5 times in 1 day, 2 of those was with me having a pet, 3 without ......... and the outcome was totally diff....
a hunter with a good "pet-less" set-up, is really tuff to beat if he uses his skillz correctly. When I run pet-less ..... I ignore another hunter's pet, and just work over the hunter, pets can be over-rated. It's all a matter of choice, but ............ like me bud Solarus says ...... ahhhhhhh the good old days..... I sure do miss them

[Comp]

Everytime I try without pet...I feel nekkid'.

[bigjim]

leveling with a ghost necromancer was a joke lol. I got from 49 to 50 in one day with that creature. :( I miss it!

[makarios68]

I could never get rid of my orc - he strokes my beard to soothe me after a hard day's fighting...