Alsius Horus status

[Truewar]

Look at this picture!

Do you know what syrtis and alsius doing together? Right! Trying to return Aggersborg back. Do you know why?

Because there were only 3 players who was trying to do that. And only 5-6 players was online at all (except low level players from inner zone).

That is very sad =(

Ra players don`t want to come to Horus because it is boring. Horus players don`t want to go Ra because they bored of grinding and most of them don`t know ES.

Argh... Question to the emptyness... How long that will continue?

[gupta]

1. NGD says that Horus is key to their success
2. NGD knows Alisus is a. Lowest WZ capable Population b. Mostly Warriors
3. NGD knows Ignis is a. Highest High Lvls b. Mostly Mages
4. NGDs balance solution a. Make Warriors unplayable b. Strengthen Mages

Result: Balanced RVR (Ranged v/s Ranged) 2 realms Ignis and Syrtis remain on Horus both relying on Ranged players

[Ulti19]

Haha, yeah, that was kind of sad. When ignis took aggers i only alsian there who ran from save to fort couple of times, no one was on thats why no one came. Eventually some more logged on and some syrtis came, took long to get back...

[-SoL-]

Syrtis use to be horrible at the time of which ignis dominated but we have improved greatly. yet it wasnt obtained over night either it tooks monthes to obtain players that are wanting to make a difference and work hard to help there realm be successful

best thing u can do is Encourage your new(low lvl) players to grind to become helpful and to bug the 1's that think lvl 30's that think there unstopable at there lvl :P

:)

[platyna]

People, stop moaning; who were helping ignis by camping bridges when we invaded? Yes, Alsius.

And please stop complaining about mages. We got nerfed alot anyway.

People should work toghether to achieve common goals, this is how it works IRL, world is not black and white (or red and green ;D).

Regards.

[UmarilsStillHere]

We got nerfed alot anyway.

Im sorry but in what way did mages get nerfed? The only recent change has been that you can now blast fireballs out your ass.

[_dracus_]

And please stop complaining about mages. We got nerfed alot anyway.


Best joke ever! :harhar:

[_Enio_]

Please move that to the joke sector and stay ontopic.. lol

What Truewar mentioned is really a grave problem on Horus.
Many Players are frustrated about the big differences, play less often or pause which makes situation even worse for those remaining.

[UmarilsStillHere]

I agree Alsius horus is in trouble, untill "prime time" you can quite happily wonder around Alsius war zone at little more risk than if you were in your homelands warzone.

The new Initiation zone clearly isnt causing enough new players to stick with Alsius.

[Znurre]

Yesterday, around 2 in the night, I was playing on my Ignis/Horus account since the lag on RA made the game totally unplayable for both my warlock and my barb.
We went to Aggers, and held it for around 1 hour.

During this time, around 7 Alsius showed up - we were 7 or 8, and atleast 3 of us were below lvl 40.
We were standing on the road to pinos save, dancing, and they regrouped and attacked.

I went inside the forest and flanked them, Jinfarr canceled their terror with a meteor and I think Plunder casted a terror in their group.
They did not spread out, so, they all died pretty instant.

I got hurt a bit since I was the low-lvl in the group and also the one rushing into there first (:D) and sat down to rest.
What happened?

Alsius went to try and capture Menirah, to lure us from Aggers... wtf?
They had a more or less equal army as us, but still they did not use the advantage of us having cooldowns and low mana/health.

I don't want to hurt anybody, but, playing like this Alsius have themselves to blame more or less.
They could have gone behind our backs since we were sitting on the road, they could have flanked us from merchant with terrors and areas, they could even have killed us from the front with some organization.

Neither of this happened.
They just gave up after 2 tries.

This is the thing I've learned from always playing in an underpopulated realm - NEVER. GIVE. UP!
You have to keep fighting, learn from your mistakes, and become better than your enemies.

So, I think the solution is in the players here.

[backe]

And please stop complaining about mages. We got nerfed alot anyway.
Obvious troll is obvious. :rolleyes2:

This is the thing I've learned from always playing in an underpopulated realm - NEVER. GIVE. UP!
You have to keep fighting, learn from your mistakes, and become better than your enemies.
I was going to say something about the fact that you chose Ignis, but I just don't really care that much anymore. But really, the time that I am able to play (eastern US evenings) I have NEVER seen a fort take by LESS then 15 reds. And as such, there is a general apathy with fort wars in Alsius at the moment.

I can appreciate what you are trying to say, as I can also appreciate the fact that Alsius is also underpopulated on Ra (which was the thing that drew me to Alsius on Horus). But please, Please, PLEASE don't make absurd comparisons between the two. If you think the problem exists because players are simply "giving up", then it just goes to show how little you actually know about Alsius/Horus.

I really hope NGD realizes that the issue of realm balance is still in dire need of addressing. :tsk_tsk:

[Comp]

Now for my 2-cents.

I have a lvl 50 hunter on Horus/Alsius and I don't play there for three reasons:

1) It's boring - not enough people
2) When there are enough people Alsius (for the most part) play like knuckle-heads.
3) Most level a character to 30-35 then start a new one rarely getting them to lvl 50. Believe it or not...being level 50 has a HUGE advantage in a fight...hell being above lvl 42 has a huge advantage.

Given that it's an english speaking server and there's ABSOLUTELY no coordination during attack baffles me. In most cases the warlocks just randomly throw terrors, warriors charge without notice and everyone openly argues about why so-and-so thinks they should be the leader.

Now, take RA for example. I don't speak spanish (only enough to assist in a fight); however, there's FAR more communication during a fight. Locks notify the group when terrors are ready, barbs onslaught, locks terror, and conjurers...yup...they heal. Alsius/Horus problem is partially population but mostly lack of communication and higher level players. I've tried to help in many fights only to get ignored when I ask everyone to wait until terrors are on cool-down, etc.

I know many that have came from RA to Horus/Alsius in hopes to help...all of which came to the same conclusion I did. Wudy, Fluffy, Boger, Matt, Sathilda, Inkser, etc. All AMAZING players only to realize Alsius doesn't want help they only want to PvE inside the safety of the realm walls.

[Znurre]

Obvious troll is obvious. :rolleyes2:


I was going to say something about the fact that you chose Ignis, but I just don't really care that much anymore. But really, the time that I am able to play (eastern US evenings) I have NEVER seen a fort take by LESS then 15 reds. And as such, there is a general apathy with fort wars in Alsius at the moment.

I can appreciate what you are trying to say, as I can also appreciate the fact that Alsius is also underpopulated on Ra (which was the thing that drew me to Alsius on Horus). But please, Please, PLEASE don't make absurd comparisons between the two. If you think the problem exists because players are simply "giving up", then it just goes to show how little you actually know about Alsius/Horus.

I really hope NGD realizes that the issue of realm balance is still in dire need of addressing. :tsk_tsk:Actually, my choice of Ignis was because I wanted to see how much difference there really was between Esquillos and Moloks, since I read a thread somewhere on the forums about it.
Then, later I needed a char to do some "investigations" and then my Ignis/Horus acc was just perfect since noone would ever connect it to me.

Everyone knows how loyal I am to my realm on RA, and how loyal I am to RA.
So Ignis/Horus would be like the last place people would expect me to be.

Then I grinded a bit for fun, made some friends and in the end I met Pwnies.
Without them I probably would have stopped playing there long time ago, since I don't like Horus in general.

Ontopic:

I can't tell from 1 battle the situation at Horus, ofcourse I can't.
I just give you my view of this battle and point out what I think was wrong.

By not playing like they did, Alsius could have recaptured the fort without much hassle.
This is all I wanted to point out.

Someday I might level up my char on Alsius/Horus to maybe get another view on the situation.
For now, this is what I have seen from my time being in the warzone.
And no, this fight at Aggers was not the first time I saw something like this.

PS. Nice post Comp, it pretty much sums up my experience of Alsius/Horus too from an attackers point of view.

[_Enio_]

Now for my 2-cents.
...
I know many that have came from RA to Horus/Alsius in hopes to help...all of which came to the same conclusion I did. Wudy, Fluffy, Boger, Matt, Sathilda, Inkser, etc. All AMAZING players only to realize Alsius doesn't want help they only want to PvE inside the safety of the realm walls.


There will always be stupids in realm, and when you take the arguments of those stupids and generalize it on the whole realm it is really not fair.


Alsius has many brave fighters, trying to get better, fighting against the common frustration around. Standing up against greatly outnumbering armies trying to get something better again and again.

You, Comp, you left pretty quick.. pissed, took yourself back very fast once it wasnt to your convenience. Im okay with that but dont talk generalized bad in a way like this on Horus alsius. Most who came over didnt even try to make something better, once you didnt got respected your pissed and leave. I see much more durable to frustration ppl around then many "old ra" players.

New upcoming onces dont have it easy to get better.
We dont have many experienced highlvls (just check rp list of horus and search alsius there. exactly 1 is listed.) to learn from and loads of chaos, loads of frustration and ppl trying to find something else in game which makes them "fun" since fighting often is just frustrating to them.
So try to understand why many go grind. just beacause wz is no fun to them. they chose to grind over to leave.

Even when all do pretty good, there are so many fights where this ends too in no positive result. Its easy to bash the players but try to see the situation there.

[Comp]

There will always be stupids in realm, and when you take the arguments of those stupids and generalize it on the whole realm it is really not fair.


Alsius has many brave fighters, trying to get better, fighting against the common frustration around. Standing up against greatly outnumbering armies trying to get something better again and again.

You, Comp, you left pretty quick.. pissed, took yourself back very fast once it wasnt to your convenience. Im okay with that but dont talk generalized bad in a way like this on Horus alsius. Most who came over didnt even try to make something better, once you didnt got respected your pissed and leave. I see much more durable to frustration ppl around then many "old ra" players.

New upcoming onces dont have it easy to get better.
We dont have many experienced highlvls (just check rp list of horus and search alsius there. exactly 1 is listed.) to learn from and loads of chaos, loads of frustration and ppl trying to find something else in game which makes them "fun" since fighting often is just frustrating to them.
So try to understand why many go grind. just beacause wz is no fun to them. they chose to grind over to leave.

Even when all do pretty good, there are so many fights where this ends too in no positive result. Its easy to bash the players but try to see the situation there.

Enio, I wasn't looking for respect nor did I demand it. Additionally, this is not about me this is about Alsius/Horus as a whole. And if you can stand there and say that a large vast majority of Alsius doesn't do what I stated above then I retract my statement. Sadly, my statement is 100% right on and true. Alsius is currently weak NOT because it is underpopulated but because the people there (not all but a majority) choose not to play as a team but rather individuals OR they choose to PvE in a RvR game. The exceptions to this are players like yourself, Backe, Syd (when he played), folks from Frozen Flame, Fury, and a few others I wish I could name them all. The truth of the matter is...ignis and syrtis have more players CHOOSING to RvR than Alsius.

Alsius/HORUS players need to stop the constant leveling and join the fight. Get a char above lvl 43 and have some fun. I'm willing to bet that if they did that you'd have a larger force in the WarZone and things would be alot better for Alsius.

Oh...and my main #1 reason for going back to RA was boredom. On Horus I would hunt for 45 minutes sometimes and never come across anyone. I get more action faster on RA.

Now - ATTN NGD:
You all REALLY need to do something about the overall population on Horus.

[Vroek]

Every visit i made to alsius (not many since i moved back to RA)
been just great in terms of cooperation and friendship.
Its really too bad that the server lacks in everything, i miss the non stop action on Ra when i go there.

[Znurre]

Yes, Frozen Flame seems to be a big exception to whatever I said.
Too bad many of them don't play.

[Kyrottimus]

There will always be stupids in realm, and when you take the arguments of those stupids and generalize it on the whole realm it is really not fair.


Alsius has many brave fighters, trying to get better, fighting against the common frustration around. Standing up against greatly outnumbering armies trying to get something better again and again.

You, Comp, you left pretty quick.. pissed, took yourself back very fast once it wasnt to your convenience. Im okay with that but dont talk generalized bad in a way like this on Horus alsius. Most who came over didnt even try to make something better, once you didnt got respected your pissed and leave. I see much more durable to frustration ppl around then many "old ra" players.

New upcoming onces dont have it easy to get better.
We dont have many experienced highlvls (just check rp list of horus and search alsius there. exactly 1 is listed.) to learn from and loads of chaos, loads of frustration and ppl trying to find something else in game which makes them "fun" since fighting often is just frustrating to them.
So try to understand why many go grind. just beacause wz is no fun to them. they chose to grind over to leave.

Even when all do pretty good, there are so many fights where this ends too in no positive result. Its easy to bash the players but try to see the situation there.

+1

I've been a 50 in HA (Horus Alsius) for almost 3 weeks now, and I know very few Ra vets, maybe 5-10 that I regularly interact with. While there are more and more players reaching high levels, it's too few and far between, it seems.

Yes, we are wholly underpopulated, but I still think it's a great realm.

Most of the regular players are goofy, laid-back and aloof like myself and we just want to have fun. I find myself still laughing at lot, yes, even when I get killed.

I really like Alsius, as I find a few really good players can make it really fun.

We could use more skilled players, true. But if you don't want to show up, that's fine too. Either way, we'll make the best of it.

[Mattdoesrock]

I've not been on Horus / Alsius for long, but whenever I play there, I do enjoy myself. Everyone was instantly accepting, and all really nice.

I really want this realm to pull through, I don't want it to fall apart. I really wish I was a higher level there, so i could try and get people active in war, encourage people, try and give them some fighting spirit, to prove to the rest of Horus that Alsius can kick ass and take names. But levelling is just a joke now. Even more so on a Knight. I don't really have money for Xim, but even with it levelling is still a nightmare. NGD have ruined levelling for Knights...

But anyway, hopefully NGD can do something to help realm balance, and inspire people to fight for their realm, and that some RA "vets" can help this realm pull through.

[Erikose]

I made the suggestion on another thread that if a realm lost all its forts then the victors would be allowed past the losers wall into there territory for a set period of time to ransack and beat the snot out of the defeated.
Would not this actually, not only promote more rvr (as you wouldn't want to be invaded) but also attract people to the weaker realms for the challenge of defending it?

The problem from what I can gather is that there is no incentive to take part in rvr. Its safer to grind and play it safe while having a laugh with your mates. Maybe that part so the game should not be as secure as it is now.
It might also promote more teamwork re battles.

Just my 2 cents :)

[Wodin]

Hi...

I read this topic with very much attention, and althought i dont usually go agaist "jurassic" players because they really know more than i do, i think i have a word to say in the matter of Alsius realm in Horus, because i play it since the very first hour of the first day it opened!

I had 3 chars in Alsius RA and moved to Horus in the first day of the server as long as my brother.

Since then, we meet lots of great players, and some horrible bastards (guess that happens in all realms). I have now 2 lvl 50 chars, and no fun in playing.

Since the first day of the game, i still dont see any positive aspect in being an utghar, unlike being an dark elf or an elf...

I played and died for hours and times over times, and i always thought it would get better in time... but its not! There were times when i went to batle again and again and again, but not anymore... i just dont play much now! I rather be at my PS3 playing agaist my brother and friends. (Btw... my brother, Sparta, dont play much now as well).

For me... the solution should be more players and good balance... and NGD just dont care! If its true that we see kailer and such working, wtf is they'r Marketing section???? Why dont they push the game to forums and advertisement in selected sites, like every other games????

They just care about new servers. I still dont know why do regnum have 2 german servers! IF the new dutch is about partnership... i can somehow understand... but 2 german servers and a dutch? Do they have so many players from there?

Enio... i'm playing less because i just dont have fun... sorry...
Znurre... i fought by your side in RA (you may not remember me), but Horus is a diferent thing... i die and dont get help, but i see ppl in my friend list online...

NGD... New noob zone is cool, but useless... try to give utghars some streght or defense, and give knights a 180º angle to they'r areas.

regards

[backe]

2) When there are enough people Alsius (for the most part) play like knuckle-heads.
This...
Horus is a diferent thing... i die and dont get help, but i see ppl in my friend list online...

And this...
Would not this actually, not only promote more rvr (as you wouldn't want to be invaded) but also attract people to the weaker realms for the challenge of defending it?
No, it simply means that the 6 people that actually give a crap get to sit at the gate and waste 2 hours of their lives while not playing the game. Horus doesn't have the population for invasions to be functional.

In reality, the best way to increase participation in the warzone is to remove high level mobs from the inner-realm areas, not to introduce a broken and wildly untested mechanic.

[Truewar]

Znurre, on Horus Pinos Crossroads is a damned circle. Every time when aggers is captured I see players running from save to fort one by one. And you can write anything in chat, set up banners, but only 10% (3-4 ppl) will pay attention to that.

Yes, war experience is much lower in Alsius Horus than on Ra, but I post that topic in other cause. This morning Ignis was at Aggers. And we successfully killed them. But it is impossible to kill Master guard with 4 players without conju.

Comp, yes, war zone is boring. You can run through whole 3 kingdoms without meeting other players. But when you have not enough ppl to return empty fort... That is sucks!

[Znurre]

But it is impossible to kill Master guard with 4 players without conju.Here we go!
THIS is the core of the problem!

Regnum is becomming more and more RvE, not RvR.
The introduction of invasions and with them Guard Captains, Realm Gates, etc...

It doesn't honor the individual players and their skills.
No matter how good a small party of people play, they can't stand a chance against the new mechanics.

This is no realm imbalance problem imo. it's a problem with the invasions as whole.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Invasions have been getting a hell of a lot of stick lately, If I opened a poll on wether players want that to stay or go then the results would be rather interesting I think... Infact Im going to go do that now...

[_dracus_]

Here we go!
THIS is the core of the problem!

Regnum is becomming more and more RvE, not RvR.
The introduction of invasions and with them Guard Captains, Realm Gates, etc...

It doesn't honor the individual players and their skills.
No matter how good a small party of people play, they can't stand a chance against the new mechanics.

This is no realm imbalance problem imo. it's a problem with the invasions as whole.

Well nicely said, I fully agree with you.

[platyna]

Solarus, like that you have described would be very different on Syrtis. ;-)

Regards.

[Erikose]

This...

And this...

No, it simply means that the 6 people that actually give a crap get to sit at the gate and waste 2 hours of their lives while not playing the game. Horus doesn't have the population for invasions to be functional.

In reality, the best way to increase participation in the warzone is to remove high level mobs from the inner-realm areas, not to introduce a broken and wildly untested mechanic.

What mechanic/mechanics are you referring to?


Dont cherry pick sections of other peoples posts and use them out of context. :¬¬:

[ArchmagusArcana]

I agree with a lot of what has been said here. Alsius is getting its ass kicked up and down because we are primarily a realm of warriors, a class which is effectively broken. We have the least effective quest items, the least amount of players, and with the effective death of warriors as a class, a lot of our high levels are either gone, or grinding other chars (like me).

Constantly getting invaded due to being a ranged vs ranged and ignis' (seemingly) 50% mage population, makes this game very frustrating to play. When you are always dizzy from mod, or get hit by 6-10 sultars, or even when rushing, cannot get close enough to a force attacking a gate to do any good, it makes a lot of people not want to play.

It seems that since ive been playing the realms have always been that of alsius as warriors, ignis as mages, and syrtis as archers. By default, even excluding all other arguments, this puts ignis in top position, and alsius on the bottom. I log onto my barb maybe once a week for about a half hour, the rest of the time i grind my lock (48 now) because at least i can get in a few kills and have a little fun before i die, instead of getting pulverized after taking 3 steps towards a target.

As for the fort wars an organization; yes, lack of organization is killing us. I always call when my sultar or mod is ready, as well as my warrior areas, i always ons before a charge, and when its ranged vs ranged, im up on the walkway with ons and owth on all our own ranged people. Ive seen time and time again, archers and mages asking SOMEONE, ANYONE to call a target so they can concentrate on taking people out one at a time.

The worst part is, when people do try to take charge, organize, and lead, no one fucking listens, and inevitably, the ones that make the biggest deal about following their own plans are the ones that cry the hardest when we get our asses kicked. I for one am willing to listen to the plans of othersl jsut because ive been playing for a long time on a lot of chars, doesn't mean im a better player than others or that their ideas are any less valid than mine, but it seems everyone wants to do their own thing instead of taking a second to think and talk and formulate a plan (hey, how about sending half a force around the other side of the fort while the other half charges in, so very effective, yet is always met with derision when i or anyone else suggests it).

I could go on and on and on about all of the various things wrong in Horus Alsius at the moment, but this is just my (not so) short weigh in on the issue.

[Comp]

Woden posted a bit ago regarding he doesn't get help when needed. I remember countless times we would get HANDED by Ignis and cries for help on Alsius Chat would request help at aggers, etc. Most would respond that they are busy leveling and many more would respond they they are too low level.

I TRULY enjoyed most of the players on Horus (a few were tits) and it's sad that the server is so under-populated. Perhaps instead of me bitchin' and moaning about it I should actively participate in growing the population.

So, I myself will commit to playing on Horus a few times a week...split my time between servers but make myself an advocate for the population of Horus...and slowly move full-time to Horus.

Over the next few days I'll send out some PMs to those I'd like to see move over to the server in hopes to bring the status of Horus to a whole new level.

I can not do this alone...and RA vets - I hope you can help. Lets get Horus populated.

[SPARTISH]

when i read how bad alsius is in horus, when i see how bad alsius is in RA i feel my realm is sooo effing shit!! seriousely, we have awsome guys but all our efforts hardly make a difference since were almost the same croud of people that appear at forts.....the only reason we stop invasions is coz this uber group leaves the rest battleing there never ending wars and go to castle to get it back, i dont kno how alsius managed to invade syrtis the other day and almsot invade ignis 3 times (wish i was online).

i started playing on RA ignis about 2 years ago, lvl 34 in about 10 weeks and i never got higher and just stayed healing at wars....whenever alsius poped up they would always do major damage to our army, at samal reds vs greens a few alsius pop up and own almost half both the teams. and when we went to pinos we always had awsome fights with dwarfs and goats charging non stop untill we were all back at save, not to mention valour used to keep armies alive solo O_o. (this all may be a bit of an exaduration but thats what i thaught of alsius)

but its all changed, to be honest i thing best desision is make alsius extinct and give the alsiusians the opertunity to join either reds or greens and keep their users and levels.....after all 3 is a crowd...

upside is massive wars, more forts? 2 castles for each side which are only needed for a invasion?? plus higher rate of people??

BTW why make new servers when the game is no were near (in my opinion) playable, i dont think u do much advertisement and how much "dutch" people will even join!?

THIS IS THE MOST IVE EVER WRITTEN SINCE MY ENGLISH GCSE EXAM!! SERIOUSELY

[Brother-brian]

Unlike some folks.... (cough, igs... cough, hunters), I don't particularly enjoy winnign because i killed them while they were resting. Its a cheap win, without honor. Win or lose on your feet, weapon in hand.... and stop zinging 16 freaking arrows into a grinder while he's resting and at 2% hp.

[ArchmagusArcana]

Unlike some folks.... (cough, igs... cough, hunters), I don't particularly enjoy winnign because i killed them while they were resting. Its a cheap win, without honor. Win or lose on your feet, weapon in hand.... and stop zinging 16 freaking arrows into a grinder while he's resting and at 2% hp.

+1 I find zero satisfaction in winning that way...UNLESS its from killing someone that does it to me all the time while im WZ grinding.

[Kyrottimus]

I agree with a lot of what has been said here. Alsius is getting its ass kicked up and down because we are primarily a realm of warriors, a class which is effectively broken. We have the least effective quest items, the least amount of players, and with the effective death of warriors as a class, a lot of our high levels are either gone, or grinding other chars (like me).

Constantly getting invaded due to being a ranged vs ranged and ignis' (seemingly) 50% mage population, makes this game very frustrating to play. When you are always dizzy from mod, or get hit by 6-10 sultars, or even when rushing, cannot get close enough to a force attacking a gate to do any good, it makes a lot of people not want to play.

It seems that since ive been playing the realms have always been that of alsius as warriors, ignis as mages, and syrtis as archers. By default, even excluding all other arguments, this puts ignis in top position, and alsius on the bottom. I log onto my barb maybe once a week for about a half hour, the rest of the time i grind my lock (48 now) because at least i can get in a few kills and have a little fun before i die, instead of getting pulverized after taking 3 steps towards a target.

As for the fort wars an organization; yes, lack of organization is killing us. I always call when my sultar or mod is ready, as well as my warrior areas, i always ons before a charge, and when its ranged vs ranged, im up on the walkway with ons and owth on all our own ranged people. Ive seen time and time again, archers and mages asking SOMEONE, ANYONE to call a target so they can concentrate on taking people out one at a time.

The worst part is, when people do try to take charge, organize, and lead, no one fucking listens, and inevitably, the ones that make the biggest deal about following their own plans are the ones that cry the hardest when we get our asses kicked. I for one am willing to listen to the plans of othersl jsut because ive been playing for a long time on a lot of chars, doesn't mean im a better player than others or that their ideas are any less valid than mine, but it seems everyone wants to do their own thing instead of taking a second to think and talk and formulate a plan (hey, how about sending half a force around the other side of the fort while the other half charges in, so very effective, yet is always met with derision when i or anyone else suggests it).

I could go on and on and on about all of the various things wrong in Horus Alsius at the moment, but this is just my (not so) short weigh in on the issue.

As ArchMagus' grinding-buddy from 33-45 (as well as him being the co-founder of our clan), I have to concur with him.

During small scale fort battles, with enough "regulars" (5-10) we do alright, but sometimes you can't pick who you get to fight alongside. I am a fairly fast typist and can rattle off a chain of communications regarding what I'm doing next, nearest/newest threats or changes in the situation.

What bothers me though, is even though the newer players might not catch on right away and still might enter a battle with that "tunnel vision" (which is frustrating for those of us trying to communication situational awareness, certainly), I do have to hand it to those who stick around and keep trying. I do notice several new players, rising quickly in levels as well as getting "face time" in the wz who seem to catch on quickly. There are always exceptions to this, but still, we have the potential there.

I think those newer players who stick to it and keep trying are more of an asset to the realm than the 50's who give up after 5 minutes and run to grind their alt or run back to RA. This is a bad example to set for these newer, impressionable players. They pick up on the false sense of despair and hopelessness oozing from so many "veterans".

No...Horus is NOT Ra. Horus has its own unique set of players which have shaped and formed it to its own unique dynamic. If you want Horus to be more like Ra? Ra regulars should play on Horus more then, and do more to help make it "better" in their eyes. If you turn your backs on Horus, well, it'll go in whatever direction the remaining players push it, for good or bad.

If you give up in the face of adversity, we do not need you.

If you would rather turn your back on the problem, rather than take your rightful position standing shoulder to shoulder with the few who are trying to fix the problem, then we do not want you.

If you cannot see that we need those who are willing to take part in leading for those who are willing to listen (and there are), then go.

But if you would like to be defiant in the face of adversity until the bitter end, join us. There's plenty of room.

I now leave you with some words from men whom I greatly admire:

“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains rest lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” -- Samuel Adams

"Lead, follow, or get out of the way." -- Thomas Paine

[SPARTISH]

Unlike some folks.... (cough, igs... cough, hunters), I don't particularly enjoy winnign because i killed them while they were resting. Its a cheap win, without honor. Win or lose on your feet, weapon in hand.... and stop zinging 16 freaking arrows into a grinder while he's resting and at 2% hp.

dude is this targeted at me? coz i was at meni save with a barbarian -.-

[Erikose]

There is a 10% exp bonus for everyone on Alsius at the mo. If this is failing to attract players to that realm then it is a potentially serious problem indeed.

I switched from Ignis to Alsius last night as I like a challenge, and to be honest, curiosity got the better of me.
First thing I have noticed was, and this has been commented on before, sod all quests.
I could fill my quest list to its limit twice over on Ignis during the early levels but on Alsius the most I have acquired in one go is three.

10% exp + next to no quests = loadsa grinding.

Not very appealing :¬¬:

[SPARTISH]

There is a 10% exp bonus for everyone on Alsius at the mo. If this is failing to attract players to that realm then it is a potentially serious problem indeed.

I switched from Ignis to Alsius last night as I like a challenge, and to be honest, curiosity got the better of me.
First thing I have noticed was, and this has been commented on before, sod all quests.
I could fill my quest list to its limit twice over on Ignis during the early levels but on Alsius the most I have acquired in one go is three.

10% exp + next to no quests = loadsa grinding.

Not very appealing :¬¬:

wow for every 100 xp il get il get 10 extra!!! lets all join that realm...-.-
really a big phail,

to be honest people either choose what they think is the good side (syrtis, hence the colour) or the bad side (ignis, hence the colour). nobody really chooses alsius unless like me they want to be a stronger version of a elfe (dwarf) and or a goat (which is just a hairy man, no difference now)...

were ment to be great warlords!! we should have expert armor and wepons, people who take the time to train their noobs how to fight and noobs who actually want to learn to fight! screw quests were ment to be the fighting realm...

[Ulmanyar]

I haven't read the entire thread, but I'll make some comments:

The reason people don't turn up at forts doesn't have to be lack of players (I'm not saying it's not, I'm just saying it doesn't have to be). A lot of players really don't like fortwars because they tend to be very boring with only a few players: if the war is 5vs5 it's almost as much PvE against guards as it is RvR! I'm not expecting anyone to enjoy that. Seriously.

I tried to take a max upgraded fort (on Ra, but anyway) with five mages and two hunters. Impossible! The door would't go down, no way! The only thing we could have done was to reskill with SM. Please no.

Ok, not all of us were level 50 - but there are a LOT of players on Horus that aren't level 50 yet (too many, I think).

(This last part was not a whine about mages low damage on doors, but instead a whine about how boring/pointless wars can be when you are not a lot of players online/present at fort).

[makarios68]

THIS IS THE MOST IVE EVER WRITTEN SINCE MY ENGLISH GCSE EXAM!! SERIOUSELY

I'll give you a C- :biggrin:

[SPARTISH]

I'll give you a C- :biggrin:

HAAAHAA
C- is a pass wooo

i already had to do my english exam 2ce but nice to see i can pass anytime with my standards xD

[Erikose]

Well, been on Alsius for 2 days now and have got my conj to level 12.

I can see why this realm is a pile of arse.

Feck all quests so far which means a lot of time grinding. Kill 1 million werehamsters for 1 xp and werehamster fur. Why the hell should I put up with that when I can go to one of the other two realms and have an easier time.

Quests were fubar. Gaurd Zero was embedded in the rock face and out of range so he couldnt be got at.

Nobcheese the bear (in the same region), wasn't even there. He might have fallen off a cliff.

Had to stick to the left hand side of the bridges on the way to Mountain Climber Zero otherwise I fell through them.

Loads of distance between point/towns. Do X quest and travel 10000 miles to do it. Then 10000 miles back for 1xp and a packet of crisps.

Lag spike every few seconds. Weird considering how empty the place is.

All this before lev 12.

Dont get me wrong, I really like this realm and the atmosphere it has. I will stick with it. But after Ignis, so far getting anywhere is like wading through a ton of sh1t.

This realm needs some major work on it...........seriously.

[Bladnoch]

Ive been on Alsius Horus for ageeesss...and I really thought that the quests there were pretty decent, considering NGD made them. :/ There are a few gaps in levels in the early stages like lvl 9 and 14 (I think), but once I got to 21, I rose to 28 within two days, and I was just being lazy. The quests gave out enough xp to keep me topping over the entire time, and they only started to drain when I got to lvl 30.

Erikrose: Ive never experienced those glitches, so Im guessing they are new, and probably to do with the new terrain. Although Ive got to agree that Guard Zero should only be there if RO was generally popular, then you could have 10 newbies battling this thing, but no the server would explode...so Guard Zero is a pile of poop. The long journeys from A to B are thoroughly annoying too. What NGD thought when they designed this part of Alsius is beyond me...

[Erikose]

Ok. Been busy on Alsius and thought I would add some more observations.

The length of time it takes to level compared to Ignis and Syrtis is huge. It takes ages even with the poxy 10% bonus.

The early levels on Ignis could have you go up on quests alone or leave you with about a third exp to grind. On alsius there are levels where there are no quests at all. Trying to get 13000 exp with no bonuses from quests as a Barb gives a new meaning to 'grind'.

The lack of quests in the early levels does not keep a players attention long enough to make them want to continue. It is easier to go to another realm, level quickly and get to the warzone.

In short, by the time Alsius have leveled 1 person high enough to be of use in the warzone, Ignis and Syrtis have leveled 3 to 4.

Plus the god awful grind means that hardly anybody will stick with the realm when there are two others that are easier.

The characters, dwarves and goats are not unique enough to compensate for a low population either. If they were slightly sturdier in battle re def and attack that might be something. But they aren't.

As a suggestion, up the number of quests for the lower levels and make all the races in all the realms noticeably unique.

[Mattdoesrock]

Are you insane? Are you even playing the same game??

Alisus quests are far, far, far superior to Ignis quests! That 13k is just one level. Plus, if you think 13k is alot of xp, please seek another game, as later levels see you needing 500,000+ xp with NO quests.

In Ignis I can only remember one level in which is 100% quest xp, lvl 23. In alsius nearly ALL early levels (<30) are 100% quest xp.

[Comp]

Are you insane? Are you even playing the same game??

Alisus quests are far, far, far superior to Ignis quests! That 13k is just one level. Plus, if you think 13k is alot of xp, please seek another game, as later levels see you needing 500,000+ xp with NO quests.

In Ignis I can only remember one level in which is 100% quest xp, lvl 23. In alsius nearly ALL early levels (<30) are 100% quest xp.

Matt is correct....there's only one level (14-15) where you hit a dry spell. You can level in Alsius quite quickly to lvl 38 on quests alone.

[e30G]

Most of what is said here holds true for Syrtis as well (not so sure about Ignis), but it is more apparent in Alsius due to their lack of numbers. The imbalance in numbers for Alsius has also been affected by the problems plaguing warrior classes.

Players in Horus seem to be gripped in a cycle:

no wars --> boredom --> grinding alts to pass time --> no people to fight --> no wars

Please NGD, move back the high level mobs to the warzone.

[Brother-brian]

As a newcomer to RO, I should point out that I had no clue whatsoever "red-green-blue" even represented. I did no investigative research before choosing Realm. I chose because I like the color Blue. And because it was the middle choice, and was elevated above the other two, on my screen, anyway. So I thought it was the "preferred" realm. I was unable to make any choice based on "which realm was getting a realm bonus for xp", or which realm was the most populated. I am assuming that most newbies come to the game just as blind.

But that is okay, I do rather enjoy "underdog" status. But I must say I have a bit of a problem with people from other realms saying that we need to get to lvl 50, stop grinding and get out into the WZ. That is EXACTLY what us GRINDERS are TRYING TO DO. So we can't just "drop everything" and come running to Agg for the millionth time because some bored Igs want some more Regnum Points to notch their belt with.

I have been trying to run out to WZ since lvl 30 whenever someone yells "EVERYONE TO AGG!" to try to help as much as I can. All I ever find is about 5 Ignis to every 2 Alsius, they are all "Impossible", and I am useless, since we don't have nearly as many people as Ignis. You keep on taking Agg fort, even though it is totally useless and pointless, you already have the gems, all you do is make wz grinding impossible, which, BTW, KEEPS US FROM LEVELING UP.

I am certainly glad neither myself nor my wife have actually spent any real cash on this game. I can't imagine my frustration at having purchased leveling % scrolls, went out to WZ to grind up a ways, and spend half my time either fighting "5-against-1-Ignis-Fun", getting killed by backstabbing-pussy-invisible-Syrtis/Ignis hunters (always when I'm resting, from grinding), and/or running back frmo save area. To pay actual money for this... NO WAY MAN.

Which means... yep, you guessed it.... WE'RE STILL NOT LEVELING UP.

So, instead of other realms bitching about how our not being level 50 is our own fault, try letting us GET THERE FIRST. At least get off our backs about it.

Ignis has helped to foster this problem, by not just "invading", but "zerging" everywhere you go. No one under lvl 48-50 even stands a chance. There are plenty of people who would go into WZ, but are not 48-50 yet, and 1 or 2 encounters with 30+ invaders against 7-10 Alsius don't want to waste their time anymore, and go back to grinding, for which you then CASTIGATE THEM FOR GRINDING!

Make up your freakin minds! If you want us to grind up to 50, to give you a bit more of a challenge, then SHUT UP ABOUT IT and let us do it. If all you want is for us to lie down and be your RP donors, then forget it. I'll stay back here behind wall anyway and grind. And if you break down gate to FORCE EVERYONE into donating RP's (which are USELESS, FYI), then I will simply log out when gate gets broken down and will log in again later.

Brian

[Erikose]

Are you insane? Are you even playing the same game??

Alisus quests are far, far, far superior to Ignis quests! That 13k is just one level. Plus, if you think 13k is alot of xp, please seek another game, as later levels see you needing 500,000+ xp with NO quests.

In Ignis I can only remember one level in which is 100% quest xp, lvl 23. In alsius nearly ALL early levels (<30) are 100% quest xp.

Errm. I was not referring to the quality of the quests but the quantity. At level 11 I had one quest which if memory serves paid 300xp and a 2 handed sword so "In alsius nearly ALL early levels (<30) are 100% quest xp." is a bit off isn't it. I would like to see proof of that statement.
I would be quite interested to hear what Igins and Syrtis gets at that same level, (cant remember myself sorry).

Secondly 13k was an example not hard data. Considering I have played Metin 2, Last Chaos and other piles of crap, no 13k is not a lot. If you are going to have a go then at least post a constructive suggestions to why Alsius is the underdog as well as your stunningly eloquent critique of my view.

Finally, if the quests appear to be few and far between on Alsius then it does nothing to keep players there when they can go to the other two realms and have a lot more to occupy their minds. The xp isn't that important for quests, having content to give a player something to do while levelling is. If Alsius had one quest that paid 500xp and Ignis had 5 quests for the same level each paying 100xp, I would put money on players mainly choosing Ignis because there is more to do over a longer period of time other than standing in the middle of a desert grinding for hours on end.

If population is a problem for Alsius as well as having numbers in the WZ, there has to be a reason why.

1) It can't be crap spells as all spells are intrinsically the same for all realms.

2) Racial preferences? Everyone prefers elves? Cant see it myself.

3) Scenery? Nah!

4) The communities. Nope. After playing other games Regnum has the best to my mind.

5) Racial strengths and Weaknesses? If the Goats and Dwarves had stats that made them the Klingons of the Regnum universe things might be different. They're not. Not choosing Alsius because the races there have crap stats doesn't work either.

6) MOBS in Alsius give crap exp? Don't think so.

7) Everyone prefers winners? Ignis and Syrtis are like snowballs? They initially were the best in the WZ so everybody flocks to them because most people don't like siding with losers, thus Alsius will never gain as they can never become a major threat?...........Possible.

8) Distances between quests. Possible. If you have a quest in the Volcanic Zone on Ignis, you turn left out of the city and base jump off a cliff. If you do the Thundermace quests or the Crystal Guard quests a bit of stomping is required.

So! What is the cause? Why, considering Alsius is fundamentally the same as the other two realms apart from the scenery, do few people like playing there?

Please tell us.

[Bladnoch]

...

Ive got to agree with the rest, Alsius does support the player xp-wise for the majority of the first 30 levels. At least it does for me, and judging by the others it does for them too.

And...
I picked Syrtis initially because I liked the scenery. :) Then I went to Alsius because it was the underdog, which is a reason very few newbies have on their minds when first joining Regnum.
People like to go to Syrtis because they like green nature, the like elves or want to be the hero. When a game like Regnum attracts mostly teenagers and yound adults, these reasons arent so uncommon.
People like to go to Ignis because they like to be evil or be dark elves. Again, this isnt certain for every Ignis player, but the reasons to contribute to a certain extent of Ignis' population.
Alsius is the middle-realm. Its neither the hero or villain, just a realm that wants to expand and will go to war because of that. To be honest, its not the best reason to join a realm, but then you have the goats and dwarves characters to compensate for that.

Back to the main point...
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Alsius_Quests This is a link to the list of Alsius quests we have, and since it was last updated only 3 days ago, Im guessing its a pretty accurate one. The vast number of quests on that page contribute to lvl 30's and under, a major quantity dont you think? ;) With the exception of lvl 14 and only two quests at level 20, Alsius really is supportive in the quest part, with only a few quests being buggy.

Ive seen threads before where Ignis players rant and rave about most early quests of theirs being buggy with major gaps in levels, not to mention having to kill hard mobs from time to time, mobs of which are in VERY small quantities. So Ive got to say, Alsius is the best for questing, possibly even better than Syrtis.

[Radian]

I've got 6 in Alsius, and just leveled the 3 new ones to 30+

9 - 13 have some dry spots that require a bit of grinding.
14 no quests.
15 - 20 some dry spots that require a little grinding.
21 - 29 1/2 ZERO grinding other than killing quest mobs. Some levels actually have enough xp to spill over into the next level.
30 - 38 about 1/3 of the xp needed on average.
38 - 50 quest XP is trivial. Almost pure grind.

You'll soon hit the "Alsius Sweet Spot" above lvl 21 and wear out a couple of horses. The wiki has a complete quest list for Alsius with XP and rewards.

[UmarilsStillHere]

made a als char on my spare account and took him to level 5, some of the quest ideas are nice, goblors in boxes etc..., but its worth pointint out that for me at least the very first person you talk to has a text error ([err][I_failz][err])

Which is hardly impressive for new players and since this area is so new pretty shamefull.

[DkySven]

When you complain about Alsius being a hard realm to level I suggest you take a look at the current xp rankings of the new server, Tyr. Alsius has 5 people of level 30 or higher, with the highest being level 38. Both Ignis and Syrtis have one level 22 player as highest level player.

http://www.regnumonline.nl/ranking/index.php?l=6&realm=0&world=tyr&opt=3

[Erikose]

Ive got to agree with the rest, Alsius does support the player xp-wise for the majority of the first 30 levels. At least it does for me, and judging by the others it does for them too.

And...
I picked Syrtis initially because I liked the scenery. :) Then I went to Alsius because it was the underdog, which is a reason very few newbies have on their minds when first joining Regnum.
People like to go to Syrtis because they like green nature, the like elves or want to be the hero. When a game like Regnum attracts mostly teenagers and yound adults, these reasons arent so uncommon.
People like to go to Ignis because they like to be evil or be dark elves. Again, this isnt certain for every Ignis player, but the reasons to contribute to a certain extent of Ignis' population.
Alsius is the middle-realm. Its neither the hero or villain, just a realm that wants to expand and will go to war because of that. To be honest, its not the best reason to join a realm, but then you have the goats and dwarves characters to compensate for that.

Back to the main point...
http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Alsius_Quests This is a link to the list of Alsius quests we have, and since it was last updated only 3 days ago, Im guessing its a pretty accurate one. The vast number of quests on that page contribute to lvl 30's and under, a major quantity dont you think? ;) With the exception of lvl 14 and only two quests at level 20, Alsius really is supportive in the quest part, with only a few quests being buggy.

Ive seen threads before where Ignis players rant and rave about most early quests of theirs being buggy with major gaps in levels, not to mention having to kill hard mobs from time to time, mobs of which are in VERY small quantities. So Ive got to say, Alsius is the best for questing, possibly even better than Syrtis.

Cool link Bladnoch. Thanks. In comparison with the Sytis list it would seem quests are a non issue. Box ticked :thumb: Nice resource to have as well.

You also make, I think, the "hit the nail on the head" point. Players as you said are attracted to either good or evil especially for the age range playing. Alsius is just....well......er grey.

It would be fascinating to see the age range for the players on Alsius. :D

How NGD could remedy this without unbalancing the game would indeed be challenging.

[DkySven]

You also make, I think, the "hit the nail on the head" point. Players as you said are attracted to either good or evil especially for the age range playing. Alsius is just....well......er grey.


Well, that's actually one of the reasons because I like Alsius. In my opinion there's no good or evil, so stop acting like there is :p.

[Erikose]

Had a quick nosey at the list provided by Bladnoch. Thought I would chuck this into the mix.

Alsius levels 1 to 10:
No. of quests = 30
Total quest exp = 8865
Total Gold = 11500

Syrtis levels 1 to 10
No. of quests = 33
Total quest exp = 9875
Total gold = 21350

These figures exclude the exp from the MOBS killed in quests and incidental distractions en route.

I don't know how it balances out at later levels and to be perfectly frank I can't be arsed finding out. Makes interesting reading re who has the better head start.

Apologies if my math is off.

Anyway, I'm going back to Alsius now to satisfy my urge to kill something. :viking:

[Bladnoch]

Glad you found my link helpful Erikrose, hope it put aside a few doubts :)
What I realised when questing in Syrtis is that I always got ample amount of money. Although this was before NGD nerfed the money income, there was a very significant amount of money in my pocket at all times.
I think for Alsius the number of early quests used to be a lot less at first, as the last few updates have introduced new Alsius quests (probably to fit in with the new initiation zone they got), but not for any other realms as far as I know. They might yet still be balancing this out in the next update or they might have stopped now. Looking at their potential stafing in next update, I guess questing is being put on the back tale for Alsius now.
Cheers for the figures Erik, very interesting. :D

[Kyrottimus]

I'm still convinced NGD made 3 secret difficulty levels for the game.

You know, like the old-school Nintendo games

Please Select Game Mode:

Easy (Syrtis)
Normal (Ignis)
Hard (Alsius)


So yeah... haha, :horsey: Weeee!

[UmarilsStillHere]

Yes your being sarcastic but id still say Ignis is the hardest realm to level in because of many broken quests, for other reasons see Edge's thread "The leveling system is a scam" and read post one. :)

To be honest in my eyes hours has a decent population, but they are all to lazy to do anything, in "the good ol' days" If your fort was taken you went to get it back over and over and over... even if you died each time each time you got a little closer, and each time you had fun, very very rarely would anyone give up, but (for example) Ignis Samal today gave up after 3 trys and went to Camp shana, I guess because they were scared of an Invasion (yeah like we can invade at 3gmt?)

And this happens a lot, people simply give up and go camp something or take a empty fort, so in my eyes population isnt the problem, its attitude, as those in alsius with the guts to say so will tell you they often have the people, but they are busy grinding alts or trying to get drops. The same goes for other realms, often the syrtis warzone will empty as soon as someone calls "vesper!!" on realm, even if Herbred is packed with enemys.

[Envy]

And this happens a lot, people simply give up and go camp something or take a empty fort, so in my eyes population isnt the problem, its attitude, as those in alsius with the guts to say so will tell you they often have the people, but they are busy grinding alts or trying to get drops. The same goes for other realms, often the syrtis warzone will empty as soon as someone calls "vesper!!" on realm, even if Herbred is packed with enemys.

This is true for many cases, however lately people just use this as some excuse when they are zerging all over =/

One of the things not helping the problem is people leaving and not trying to help the situation. It's like when Horus opened people thought "There won't be much wars, so I'll make a hunter", or the knights dropping auras because they've changed. Just makes the situation worse.

[Paradosa]

Hours Alsius now have +25% xp (it was 10% before) because we are smallest realm. Many players left Alsius :confused:

[Bladnoch]

My clan leaders left Horus Alsius, which was a pain in the backside...everything seems a lot more hopeless. Its sad that its come to the part where so many English will leave their server for a new server and a new hope, when the new server is supposed to be for people who dont have the English language as their primary language...

[Comp]

Over the past two or three days I have notices a nice change in Alsius. We're putting up a fight over our forts....YAY!. We're coordinating more attacks, people are putting alot more thought into attacks. Friday and Saturday made me VERY proud of Alsius EVEN considering how few we had in the fight.

[ArchmagusArcana]

Over the past two or three days I have notices a nice change in Alsius. We're putting up a fight over our forts....YAY!. We're coordinating more attacks, people are putting alot more thought into attacks. Friday and Saturday made me VERY proud of Alsius EVEN considering how few we had in the fight.

Yes, i was there for those, and even today (sunday) we had some very nice fort fights. Still a great deal of work to do in terms of coordination and staying near the damn fort, but people are calling sultars more and we get some fantastic chains going.

I feel after the last two or three months of getting walked on, that we are going somewhere area realm.

[Brother-brian]

Over the past two or three days I have notices a nice change in Alsius. We're putting up a fight over our forts....YAY!. We're coordinating more attacks, people are putting alot more thought into attacks. Friday and Saturday made me VERY proud of Alsius EVEN considering how few we had in the fight.

Large part of this has been due to the odds being more in our favor with guard capts, since weve been keeping forts up to lvl 4 almost all weekend.

[Pendalf]

Thank you very much for money. =) Keep doing this way.

[_Seinvan]

Yeah, BB, you really helped out by donating the monies. That definitely played a role in Horus Alsius' motivation.

[alsian_mage]

Here is strange alsius. Players try kill dragon while realm is getting in danger


Here first picture they starting to kill dragon when already imp is taken and agger too

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt139/alsian_mage/2.png

Second picture they no care even trell taken

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt139/alsian_mage/3.png

Last picture realm danger

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt139/alsian_mage/4.png

How alsius improve if they value mob over protect realm? They give reason we no gems! But what happen to protect inner realm mates from invasion?

Sorry my english bad

[e30G]

Hmm that's sad. I was there at Pinos and Imperia and I decided to log off out of boredom. I thought no one was simply online... now this isn't good to see at all.

[Kyrottimus]

Hmm that's sad. I was there at Pinos and Imperia and I decided to log off out of boredom. I thought no one was simply online... now this isn't good to see at all.

Walk in our shoes for a week before you judge. And I could dig out some screens of some abusive comments alsian mage made to everyone (resulting in mass /ignore commands) but I'm generally not the tattling type unless the offense somehow wrongs me or my friends in a non-superficial manner.

[Klutu]

Alsuis was in the middle of killing the Dragon just because a realm touched our fort we are supose to stop dead in our tracks let them put the gate in danger no gems and we know syrtis would not have enough to do anything

[ArchmagusArcana]

Alsuis was in the middle of killing the Dragon just because a realm touched our fort we are supose to stop dead in our tracks let them put the gate in danger no gems and we know syrtis would not have enough to do anything


That is the advantage of not having a gem, its give you a lot of freedom to take more risks, such as going after other forts, even when others have yours, or yes, finishing off a dragon so that maybe we can get a decent drop or two to help even out the gross realm imbalance. Alisus needs to have SOME sort of edge, and if finishing killing off a dragon when the gates are in danger (when we have no gems to take) is what takes then that is what it takes. It would be different if we had gems, but we didn't. Besides, farming people at a gate isn't a lot of work and rather enjoyable. it gives us an chance to coordinate teamwork and maybe get a bit of a morale boost out of it.


To Alsian Mage. I dont usually directly make negative comments to people on here as i feel its rude and unprofessional, but grow up, seriously. If you dont like the way that we play, go somewhere else, we dont need tattle tales in alsius, especially when its an internal issue and a matter of choice, not cheating, not poor sportsmanship, not glitching. Its a game, not kindergarten.

[DkySven]

Alsius mage, shouldn't you be at the gate, defending, instead of taking screenshots then?

[Comp]

The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done.

Majority of Alsius seems not very interested in helping defend the realm and that is sad. Most would rather grind in hopes to find better equipment or loot the dragon stuff. I'm sorry to say this...that equipment isn't gonig to make you better....playing and fighting will make you better.

I'm sad to say that members of the clan I belong to CONSTANTLY respond to my requests for assistance with "I'm grinding..." Or "I'm looking for higher level armor".

I suppose this is why I'm interested in starting my own clan....defend alsius from invaders.....and actually play this game for what it's meant to be.

[Envy]

The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done.

Syrtis did the exact same thing a while back, no one batted an eyelid about it. In fact a defense for them not trying to retake the forts was "We weren't grinding, but kill Vesper".

Not to say this is right, just that the other realms are no different in this aspect and this isn't something they can take a moral high ground on.

[Paradosa]

I'm really angry and really disappointed about Horus Alsius today.
This supposed to be war game - fight for your realm, lands, forts, pride etc...
But today alsius showed its real face - most Alsius players don't care about realm, just for grind, drops, their rp, which means nothing.... They just found perfect excuse - "we dont have gems"
We don't have those gems for weeks and seems that will not have soon. It's sad that your realm mates don't want to fight in WAR game.

All this thread was about Alsius are few, need bonuses to get better etc etc. I would say - remove bonuses or even give -xp to force those lazy grinders go to war zone. Alsius don't need help in that way, we need to change attitude.

---------
Paradosa

[w_larsen]

there would be nothing wrong with grinding people or pacifists or whatever, but on low populated server like horus is and even lower populated alsius, one or two players can make major difference. and that's where horus dramas originates from. 20% of 100 players is far less important than 20% of 10 players.

judging by spawned guards it seems that luckly for alsius, some syrts had "they have no gems" attitude too, and didn't come to attack gate (few more barbs would make it a success, because there were almost no defenders, when syrtis actually got to gate).

speaking of "no gems" argument... i do believe that this game is about war, not gems and invasions are placed only to give reason for war, because if we think about it - only one option gives any direct advantage in war, and the advantage is only for one player.

of course +xp gives some indirect advantage too, as leveling is bit faster, but it is bit like "in unknown future, when one reaches lvl X, he will come to wz (and not just start an alt)..." it doesn't change situation at hand.

[e30G]

Actually, Syrtis did come to the gate.... But it was a small party (that took both castle and fort) and they had no conjurers. I can tell you there was real intent for them to invade, and harass levelers. I did not join them. I logged out cause I got bored and decided to test in Amun.

[ArchmagusArcana]

there would be nothing wrong with grinding people or pacifists or whatever, but on low populated server like horus is and even lower populated alsius, one or two players can make major difference. and that's where horus dramas originates from. 20% of 100 players is far less important than 20% of 10 players.

judging by spawned guards it seems that luckly for alsius, some syrts had "they have no gems" attitude too, and didn't come to attack gate (few more barbs would make it a success, because there were almost no defenders, when syrtis actually got to gate).

speaking of "no gems" argument... i do believe that this game is about war, not gems and invasions are placed only to give reason for war, because if we think about it - only one option gives any direct advantage in war, and the advantage is only for one player.

of course +xp gives some indirect advantage too, as leveling is bit faster, but it is bit like "in unknown future, when one reaches lvl X, he will come to wz (and not just start an alt)..." it doesn't change situation at hand.

I cannot speak to the amount of guards that were on at that time, or what the situation was, as i was probably sleeping (since almost all invasion attempts seem to take place when im either sleeping or working, which really really sucks), but really, morale is so very low in alsius right now that i dont really blame them for not bothering. Sad but true.

Its hard as hell to get people to try to go take a fort, and its almost always done within clan for me since people would rather hunt or pvp, saying 'we dont have the people'. We never ever had that attitude in RA, even when we are outnumbered, and really, its invasions that have caused this attitude to begin with. People seem to think that if you cannot invade there is no point in taking forts or castles, so if there are not enough people to invade, people wont bother to take a fort, let alone a castle.

I happen to like fort wars, i prefer them to just about anything else (defending realm gate is fun from time to time if its a balanced fight, and hunting is nice too sometimes just to relieve the tedium of a dead warzone), but invasions have all but ruined them. I really dislike taking back a fort, but since alsius never wants to attack, its about all the forting we have left.

That is another 'advantage to not having gems', we can, and should, be far more bold and aggressive with harassing our enemies. As far as game advantages go, we have nothing to lose, and a chance to gain our gems back (let alone be a real pain in the ass to other realms that are trying to invade each other). If i can get even 4 or 5 other people to come with me to go take a fort, ill happily do it....Once we have it in our possession for a while people do seem to slowly trickle in to help defend it; it just seems we need to get that initial push going to take it in the first place.

[ArchmagusArcana]

The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done.

Majority of Alsius seems not very interested in helping defend the realm and that is sad. Most would rather grind in hopes to find better equipment or loot the dragon stuff. I'm sorry to say this...that equipment isn't gonig to make you better....playing and fighting will make you better.

I'm sad to say that members of the clan I belong to CONSTANTLY respond to my requests for assistance with "I'm grinding..." Or "I'm looking for higher level armor".

I suppose this is why I'm interested in starting my own clan....defend alsius from invaders.....and actually play this game for what it's meant to be.

The reason that a lot of people do this is because its not even a little bit fun to try to take back a for with 5 or 6 people (usually the same 5 or 6 when im there) versus 15-20. Its pointless and demoralizing. And sadly, yes better equipment does give you and edge. The old days in Ra, you could tell a good player from bad very easily as there was no special or epic items to give a bad player an advantage and the poor player, unless very lucky tended to die very fast.

As to grinding. Not all of us have level 50 characters, grinding is boring as hell and if you get in a good party and its going fast, i see no reason why you should have to stop just because someone else needs your help. Grinding is part of the game too and if thats what people want to do, its their right to do it. On my knight (first char) i spent a lot of time at lower levels in the wz, same as on my barb (second char). When i got to my lock, my grind setup was incompatible with war, so if i had to war id switch to barb. Not all players have this luxury. That being said, i do agree that it does get frustrating when all you need are one or two people and out of the 10 you ask, all of them are busy doing other things.

Ask me if you need help taking a fort or defending a fort, unless ive made prior commitments to help someone with a quest ill help you almost every single time. Nothing better than stirring up a little war zone action. We did it together in Ra and I would love nothing more than to do it here in Horus with you as well.

[Paradosa]

I go to enemies forts only occasionally because of that "no gems" attitude.
When we loose enemy fort i usually find myself alone or just few players defending our forts. Usually force we had in enemy fort goes grinding and not defending our forts.
When i started playing in Alsius war zone it was different. Alsius loved fort wars, we were going to enemies forts to have fun, but players did defend our forts.

So, if players with that "no gems" attitude asking me join to fort wars, i choose to not go with them....

[ArchmagusArcana]

You know what, never mind what i just said. Im pissed off and disgusted now. Just spent the last half hour or so trying to take back an empty fort with 3 low levels since thats all that would answer the call if duty. Complete silence in main when we asked for help. Syrtis came and pissed on our gate and were camping noobs, no one comes. Im just one character, i cannot kill an army. Get off your lazy ass for 5 goddamn minutes and defend your gate FFS. Makes me very glad that i still have a character in RA that i can play with to escape this kind of frustration.

Lazy grinders are killing this realm jsut as invasion is killing fort wars.


-Disgusted.

[alsian_mage]

ArchmagusArcana,

You ask me to grow up. But I think your clan leader need grow up. I tell why.

Dragon will be till you kill.

Realm in Danger not reversible. It 2 hour of headpain. In alternate if your clan leader had taken agger and imp in 1 hour max (it possible with number at dragon, see picture again)

It would have keep all grinders grinding for 1 more hour and you also kill dragon.

But by his stupid action 2 hour idle standing at gate

Why I not go someone ask. I lvl 32 mage alone cannot take anything. No use go. It not Ra where some grinders make no difference.

[ArchmagusArcana]

The problem isn't people that want to spend a little time killing a dragon, the problem is people that wont <ever> stop grinding when there is war to be done. The problem is people like you that have more time to waste taking screens of someone killing a dragon than going to agg or wherever to help with the effort.

You have a problem with Kyro, whatever, thats your issue, and that, obviously is the issue since his the one you targeted in your screens, and hes the one that you mentioned by name, not the other people who were there as well. Man up and hash it out with him instead of tattling on him in a forum. 32 is NOT a hard level to attain, you can easily do it in a weekend, i did on two of my three chars.

Like i said, i dont usually target people by name in a forum type environment, but your attitude stinks, you make very thinly veiled attacks against a friend of mine, and act like you care about the welfare of the realm you play for, when you were too busy playing spymaster to bother helping in the war yourself. How many invasions have you helped defend against, how many forts have you taken? Get to level 50, play around in the warzone for a while, have fun always being outnumbered and having all the grinders tell you that they are too busy grinding to help out in the war effort, then maybe for a change of pace, you will want to go kill a dragon too.

[Kyrottimus]

Anyone who knows me can attest: 9 times out of 10 I am there fighting (or was there) for battles on Alsius WZ.

Several times a day this would happen, styrtis takes forts, we retake them, or try to for a few hours as it would sometimes take that long to rally enough of us to do any good.

I was in fact logging not long thereafter and did not feel obligated in defending a realm that would not step up to defend itself. I am not Alsius, I'm just one guy. I cannot be everywhere at once, and frankly, I believe I've earned the right not to drop what I'm doing and rush off to retake forts.

Alsian mage: I've been at so many fort wars in alsius I cannot count. Ask anyone in Alsius and they'll tell you I am (was) a regular defender of the realm. I started at level 24 fighting in fort wars so your "I'm only 32" excuse is hogwash. Quit being a hypocrite and earn your right to judge by doing what you espouse.

In fairness, without calling anyone out in particular, I know several here who keep the refrain "But this is a war game!" but many times in the past when we are fighting at fort wars without ANY conjurers whatsoever those with conjurer characters either show up as their lower-alts or don't show up at all because they themselves are hunting/grinding elsewhere.

I never made a stink about it, this IS a game after all and people are allowed their free will. At that point my disgust for Alsius' inability to listen/coordinate/work together I figured maybe if the Syrties' did at least get the gate in danger it'd wake up those in realm....

Due MOSTLY to personal RL reasons not at all related to RO, I've killed off Kyrottimus for good, doled out all his gear to close friends, and am no longer a regular player and will allocate my time to playing on an alt at most 2-3 times a week. Don't ever expect to see me as "Kyrottimus" in game, ever.


I never ran off to Ra to make war (since I have no Ra chars) when I got bored on Horus... I never pestered other players to show up at fort wars since it's their prerogative on how they want to play. I just wanted to play the game with my friends and have fun.

It's hard when you get no-name hypocrites trying to stir the sh*t without themselves stepping forward to do the deed.


If Alsius is going to rally they're going to do it without me. God knows I tried so many times and in so many ways to do it while I was there and I guess I just finally gave up. Never thought I'd say that because I don't give up lightly, but yeah dozens if not hundreds of fort wars after-the-fact, I don't need some shill lambasting me when he/she doesn't know a g*****mn thing about me. Any regular horus Alsian knows I showed up to re-take forts more often than not when I was online. And EVERY time the gate was in danger, and I was online, I was there.

Yes, even in that incident. I got some RP even off the Syrts by Onsing/OWTH'ing gate guards. I was too tired and going to log soon anyway to get into a protracted gate battle. Impromptu reverse-rp farming I guess you could call it, but I didn't want them to get what they wanted (my 18rps) since that's the only reason they were harassing us anyway... because they were bored and wanted our rps (and usually, as one of the few 50's at fort wars, I often got singled out first....either that or just because I was a barb).

It gets very tiresome to constantly defend a gem-less, underpopulated realm from a bunch of RP-farmers who only attack us because they're too afraid to take on ignis. When I realized that all syrtis wanted was for us to fight them so they could cream us, again, I felt deep down inside I no longer wanted to oblige them.

I am tired of trying to retake forts without conjurers. I am tired of trying to take back forts with players who won't regroup and try to coordinate. I am tired of trying to drive some direction behind Alsius when so few are receptive. We have several great players in Alsius, and the only real problem I see with them is they are not all online at the same time. But I suspect it's futile for now. I'm washing my hands of the whole thing.

I really don't care anymore as I have much bigger hurdles to now jump. I'll keep in contact with the friends I've made, but I'm nothing more than a casual player now.

Good luck with the espionage alsian mage. I hope you find whatever acceptance/acknowledgment you're looking for: but you're not going to find it that way. Constantly insulting people in realm chat (even before this incident) is not a good way to attain respect from realmmates.

It was fun people, but I'm out.

http://members.shaw.ca/brycon/davidusher/littlesongs/littlesongs2.jpg
--Kyrottimus
Later

[DkySven]

Sad to read such a post, Kyrottimus. If you ever decide to return to Regnum and have time for a bit of grinding, we can always use players like you in Valhalla at Ra(I've a support conjurer who could help you). Until then, take care.

[AntibioTsu]

The problem isn't people that want to spend a little time killing a dragon, the problem is people that wont <ever> stop grinding when there is war to be done. The problem is people like you that have more time to waste taking screens of someone killing a dragon than going to agg or wherever to help with the effort.


Do you remember that bitch named "Fatigue"? May be hard to admit, but at least it made players go to war when you couldnt grind anymore.

Players asked for it to go because they couldnt grind with too many wars, well now there are no wars at all, and thats the major problem.

[Comp]

Sad to hear Kyro....you were always one I could count on for help when asked...

GL in RL.

[backe]

You pretty much summed up how I feel about the situation in Alsius/Horus, Kyro.

[Arafails]

Wow. And I thought we had too much vitriole in Ignis.

So I might suggest we finally make a move for real on Syrtis and get those last two gems, open the portal, and give Alsius -ve XP. It would really be for your own good.

Or would that just cause your players to ragequit?

[Klutu]

Kyro :(

Sad to have you go you were one of the unique players that made a difference also sad to see you go considering i just joined Alsuis

[Kyrottimus]

Wow. And I thought we had too much vitriole in Ignis.

So I might suggest we finally make a move for real on Syrtis and get those last two gems, open the portal, and give Alsius -ve XP. It would really be for your own good.

Or would that just cause your players to ragequit?

Yeah, morale is so low there right now you'd probably tank out the realm for a week and then no more punching bag for the other two realms to enjoy.

......

...meh

[Kyrottimus]

Kyro :(

Sad to have you go you were one of the unique players that made a difference also sad to see you go considering i just joined Alsuis

Thanks man.

In honesty, it was you Klutu, Archmagus, Eloot, Brian, archangel and Magical Star (and other new clanmates), and other regular players who gave me reason to stay way longer than I would have otherwise.

I felt obligated to you guys to help you out (and I still plan on doing so when I'm online) when it comes to quests, npc's, etc. But again, only on my alts and far less frequently than before.

[Kyrottimus]

Sad to hear Kyro....you were always one I could count on for help when asked...

GL in RL.

Thanks, it was fun playing (and hunting) with you Compost, you are one of the great ones. Maybe I'll make a hunter level up over the months since at least they can still move fast (for now). I just hope I log in when you're there.

Take it easy until then.

[ArchmagusArcana]

I told you this in chat the day Kyro died, and i emailed you as well, but ill tell you here again; Good luck in life, i know well keep in contact, and whatever you need, just ask and ill do what i can to help.

You were one of the very few people i know that i could always count on 100% when there was war to be made or a fort to defend, you and a small group of a few others, and if for nothing else (and there are so many 'nothing elses' ;) ) I will dearly miss you. Hell, we spent pretty much 35-50+ together on our barbs, thats a lot of mobs and a lot of war, and a lot of fantastic times.

You will be missed, dont be a stranger





And yeah, you pretty much sum up my thoughts on Alsius Horus as well.

[Akooo]

This are really sad news :(

Take care and have a look from time to time ;)

[Saryad]

I only leave a fort war if:
1. I need to sleep and its past 2am
2. I need to eat
3. If i dont go im gonna smash my computer im so frustrated.
4. Because i cant see any way we can win it because we have aproxx 8 players lvl 40+ online and half are grinding anyway.

[Saryad]

On a much more important note:
Never fear Kyro, your soul and spirit will live on for all of eternity in the hearts of your battle brothers!

[Comp]

I must say - alsius is doing significantly better lately....keep up the motivation.

Oh...and those of you who cry out in main chat "This is hopeless...blah blah blah."

GO TO A DIFFERENT REALM !! :)

[Kyrottimus]

I must say - alsius is doing significantly better lately....keep up the motivation.

Oh...and those of you who cry out in main chat "This is hopeless...blah blah blah."

GO TO A DIFFERENT REALM !! :)

+1 There are glimmers of hope there, but still plenty of progress in Alsius is required.

I brought back Kyro to "Semi-Active" status, as a test, and playing as a barb is still nothing but frustration to me.

It's amazing how I can have so much fun in wars with a 35 Knight and get nothing but angry on a 50 barb. I actually think positioning is WORSE on the barb, if that's possible.

Example: I can feint down an enemy on the knight and my char has no problem attacking. I can feint down an enemy on my barb and my char will just stand there and not attack and get "you are out of range" or "you are not facing your enemy" when I am clearly both facing and within range of my enemy (Obviously, if I feinted or kicked them down they would be in range since they're no longer moving).

It's this kind of maddening BS that made me set aside the barb to begin with. I don't know, maybe I'm the only one experiencing this or I'm delusional. But until playing a barb is fun for me I'll only play mine on occaison when Alsius needs it. Until then, I'm stuck on Rykor as at least HE is FUN to play.

[Henri_Freundlich]

For Alsius/Horus:

0) Remove background noise/chatter
1) Get High-lvlers online
2) Prep for <insert task here> beforehand
3) Work on <insert task here>
4) Profit.

[Kianoni]

I never did plan or mean to leave regnum but it just happened, I noticed I hadn't been online for months.. I did spend a hundred euros or so and thousands of hours of training (not only grinding but training all aspects of pvp/rvr too) only to see my work flushed down the toilet in a few or more updates - maybe I should only blame myself for picking ninja-hunter-assassin for Horus main after Ra experiences as I should have known better that the character I wanted was not in the roadmap and plans NGD had. nor it was not inteded to play in such way. I should have foreseen that pfft.

enjoy the sarcasm so far but I still do play occasionally (and hope for a better future for the game) I have noticed it's not only Alsius's spirit of not fighting back that creates the situation described in this and many other threads - many times the other realms attack the weakest one because they do not dare go after each other because there might an equal opposing force and winning is not granted. this is natural for us humans and there's no one to blaim but what? human spirit of wanting to win no matter how undertaker the opponent is as long as you can ensure you can not loose?

[DkySven]

Trust me, Kyrottimus, also knights have their fair share of position lag :p

[Klutu]

Thrust me, Kyrottimus,

Should i leave you 2 alone? :sifflote:

[lala110593]

enjoy the sarcasm so far but I still do play occasionally (and hope for a better future for the game) I have noticed it's not only Alsius's spirit of not fighting back that creates the situation described in this and many other threads - many times the other realms attack the weakest one because they do not dare go after each other because there might an equal opposing force and winning is not granted. this is natural for us humans and there's no one to blaim but what? human spirit of wanting to win no matter how undertaker the opponent is as long as you can ensure you can not loose?

whatr you talking about, syrtis and ignis go at it like dogs, all we do is fight each other, i mean its not like this game is about a 3 way battle right? your too new to horus to know the history of fighting b/w syrtis and ignis, after alsius lost tyr, and basically went extinct, it was basically ignis vs. syrtis for a couple of months, and we (at least me) got sick of fighting just one realm, and now that alsius is active, its only natural to fight something new...

-glulose

[Kyrottimus]

Trust me, Kyrottimus, also knights have their fair share of position lag :p

(fixed your quote because I'll "trust", but won't even go near the other one. xD

Having leveled one barb to 50 and 2 knights to upper 30's (and having used both in war) I can attest that they BOTH suffer from terrible positional lag, but somehow it seems more frequent for me while playing barb.

Just an observation.

[Kyrottimus]

whatr you talking about, syrtis and ignis go at it like dogs, all we do is fight each other, i mean its not like this game is about a 3 way battle right? your too new to horus to know the history of fighting b/w syrtis and ignis, after alsius lost tyr, and basically went extinct, it was basically ignis vs. syrtis for a couple of months, and we (at least me) got sick of fighting just one realm, and now that alsius is active, its only natural to fight something new...

-glulose

I don't think the problem is Ignis, per se. Igins is not attacking us any more or any less than usual. If anything, they are attacking us less than I recall when I first started playing. The problem, at least when I am playing, is during the past few weeks Syrtis has been spending an awful lot of time camping central save and rp-farming forts/the gate in Alsius.

Having not played in Ignis I don't know if the frequency if annoyance there is the same, since Syrtis seems to have an insanely huge population it wouldn't surprise me if both were the case, but lately it seems that they absolutely love trelleborg and the also frequent "time-share" at aggersborg.

[Znurre]

lately it seems that they absolutely love trelleborgDon't worry. That's evolution :p
It's been like this forever on RA.

Soon you will start playing ping/pong between Trelle and Algaros the little time you don't camp Algaros save as revenge for their former usual slaughter.
I can predict it will happen in about 6 months :D

[Kianoni]

whatr you talking about, syrtis and ignis go at it like dogs, all we do is fight each other, i mean its not like this game is about a 3 way battle right? your too new to horus to know the history of fighting b/w syrtis and ignis, after alsius lost tyr, and basically went extinct, it was basically ignis vs. syrtis for a couple of months, and we (at least me) got sick of fighting just one realm, and now that alsius is active, its only natural to fight something new...

-glulose
Too new to Horus :biggrin: that's the best joke I've heard for a long time. Supposedly you didn't know I was one the first ones in Horus and was one of the most active players too. Maybe you're too new to know that. I didn't mean to quit playing but it just happened as the changes to game mechanics and all the nerfs just killed much of the fun for me, right now I'm back but who knows for how long.
Back on topic, I was just pointing out that winning is fun and all realms have used the same tactic and spirit I pointed out in my post - and that is human, nothing to do whit realms/classes/whatever.

I still don't get why everyone on this forum thinks every post about some kind of tactic/gameplay is targeted against them or their realm. Try to look things on a broader scale instead of always thinking everyone has something against you and your gameplay.

[Wodin]

I started to play less as well...

I payed way more than 100 euros, lol... thats life...

Maybe some day the game will have a nice balance...

Regards

[Klutu]

Don't worry. That's evolution :p
It's been like this forever on RA.

Soon you will start playing ping/pong between Trelle and Algaros the little time you don't camp Algaros save as revenge for their former usual slaughter.
I can predict it will happen in about 6 months :D

its actually already happend :) lately its just alga trelle ping pong then after a while ignis will join in on aggers or herb and the realm goes fight them then goes back to the alga trelle war

its very nice though can get anoying from time to time :)

[Znurre]

its actually already happend :) lately its just alga trelle ping pong then after a while ignis will join in on aggers or herb and the realm goes fight them then goes back to the alga trelle war

its very nice though can get anoying from time to time :)That sounds exactly how it became on RA too...
Really interesting.

So, afterall it's the poor game dynamics creating this scenario - or atleast promoting it, not only the players.

[_Enio_]

That sounds exactly how it became on RA too...
Really interesting.

So, afterall it's the poor game dynamics creating this scenario - or atleast promoting it, not only the players.


Well it would happen between shana&efe too if it wasnt such big distance in between. PPl want to fight and when they are gathered at a fort from recapturing they of course go to the next nearest fort.

[Knekelvoeste]

Thats the thing with Alsius..
CONSTANT GRINDERS i wont say any names but really 33% of Alsius always grinds and never comes to war i mean whats the point of getting 10 million exp?? Go and help us at Aggers when help is needed and leave those wretched cats alone for the people who aren't 50 yet..

In my experience in Horus/Alsius i saw few people who just cant play.
It makes us just look like all unorganised and half of the people just wont listen. For example: A fort war at Herbred i just cant stand the fact that people like to run to CS to kill Syrtis there its just BC use the advantages we got and don't follow them to their save. PLZ ALSIUS LISTEN!!

[ArchmagusArcana]

Thats the thing with Alsius..
CONSTANT GRINDERS i wont say any names but really 33% of Alsius always grinds and never comes to war i mean whats the point of getting 10 million exp?? Go and help us at Aggers when help is needed and leave those wretched cats alone for the people who aren't 50 yet..

In my experience in Horus/Alsius i saw few people who just cant play.
It makes us just look like all unorganised and half of the people just wont listen. For example: A fort war at Herbred i just cant stand the fact that people like to run to CS to kill Syrtis there its just BC use the advantages we got and don't follow them to their save. PLZ ALSIUS LISTEN!!

+1 Ive been saying that for a long long time. Ill grind when there is no action at all in the hopes that some stupid hunter will try to kill my poor defenseless warlock :D. I guess its better than logging off or getting sucked into realm chat drama, but im at (or at least on the way to) almost every single fort war in alsius war zone when im online...I may miss out on a few going to foreign lands that i dont hear about, but i always pass grinders; its the ones that grind close to the fort in question and dont help that REALLY REALLY piss me off.

Yeah about going to syrtis CS. its just stupid, almost as stupid as them coming to pinos save when they are at aggers, its a recipe for disaster....though if there are far more invaders than defenders, its sometimes nice to at least get a bit of a fight out of them.

[Henri_Freundlich]

I really don't get why people would want to *grind* 24/7.

If you come online frequently (4-5 times a week, or more) and have at least one 'high level' character, you should really be focusing on playing the game (wars, invasions, hunting etc) rather than grinding all the time.

If I had to grind every session, I'd get bored very quickly.

[Mbwana]

I really don't get why people would want to *grind* 24/7.

If you come online frequently (4-5 times a week, or more) and have at least one 'high level' character, you should really be focusing on playing the game (wars, invasions, hunting etc) rather than grinding all the time.

If I had to grind every session, I'd get bored very quickly.

I agree completely, but I don't have a high lvl char (ie: 40-ish) so I have to get bored very, very quickly :P