Knights and their shields

[Recoil]

This was ridiculous...

[UmarilsStillHere]

Its rare for that to happen, thus its fine as it is,

[Pendalf]

Knights are overpowered! NGD please nerf knights! :D

[DkySven]

I guess I won't hear you talking when you're the one having luck. :tsk_tsk:

[Dannboy]

This was ridiculous...

Probably Precise (5), Block (5) and....did he have a bubble around him? In that case Protector(5).

And this is luck, the blocking of Knights has already been nerfed (I havent seen it in any log, but I went from blocking 6/10 strikes to 2/10)

[UmarilsStillHere]

It could well have just been luck, hell remember I got 4 blocks in a row with a level 8 sheild, yet I havent blocked 4 in a row on my level 43 knight in ages :P

[RegnumIrae]

OMG yes!

Knights are OP! Take out our armors! Take us our weapons and give us some sticks (something like this (http://cajademagia.es/catalog/images/APPOLE8FT%20caja%20de%20magia.jpg))! Shields? OMG THATS TOO MUCH FOR US! We should just use our left arm to block!!!1! And we should be slower! We can run away from every hunter!!!!!!

[defcul]

While the block has this randomness, post like this are inevitable. The people that never played with a knight will always have more trend to see only the times that a knight block several hits followed, and not that now, with the neferd of block, is more often that knight block few.

After the nefering was more frequent these bouts of good luck, so the complaints against the block of knights was too. Nobody saw then the bouts of bad luck, only people that played with a knight.

Is human to see the things only when it hurm you, so irae, you must no get ungry ;).

[Znurre]

Is human to see the things only when it hurm you, so irae, you must no get ungry ;).Are you the new Ghandi?

[RegnumIrae]

Is human to see the things only when it hurm you, so irae, you must no get ungry ;).

I'm not angry, defcul. I'm just being "ironic" :p

[DkySven]

While the block has this randomness, post like this are inevitable. The people that never played with a knight will always have more trend to see only the times that a knight block several hits followed, and not that now, with the neferd of block, is more often that knight block few.

After the nefering was more frequent these bouts of good luck, so the complaints against the block of knights was too. Nobody saw then the bouts of bad luck, only people that played with a knight.

Is human to see the things only when it hurm you, so irae, you must no get ungry ;).

At a certain moment there's more than you can take. For a year now people have been posting that the knight is overpowered, without a single clue about the class. This whining might contributed in the current state of the knight and that pisses me off.

[defcul]

At a certain moment there's more than you can take. For a year now people have been posting that the knight is overpowered, without a single clue about the class. This whining might contributed in the current state of the knight and that pisses me off.

xD.

I was more that one year in spanish forum trying to show everybody with photos of logs, statistical calculations, etc. that the bouts of bad luck necessarily must to coexist with the bouts of good luck, but this only could be seen for people that played with a knight (like irae xd). So i perfectly know what are you talking about ;), and this is the reason that post like Lumi_Alsius´ve writen even after nefering of blocks dont surprise me.

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

This was ridiculous...

I knew it! I knew that these would be useful. This is how it looks from opposite point of view.

[Recoil]

Knights are OP!
I disagree, and this was not my point. Knights are fine (compared to barbs anyway).

[KnuckOne]

I disagree, and this was not my point. Knights are fine (compared to barbs anyway).

You're talking to (at least) 2 people having played knight and are leveling barb. Something to meditate...

[RegnumIrae]

I disagree, and this was not my point. Knights are fine (compared to barbs anyway).

Yeah, knights are really fine.

We have no range.
We have no attack.
We have no speed.
We have no defense.

We are soooooooooooo fiiine!

I do enjoy much more playing my barb (42) than my knight (50). With the barb I dont last too much, but at least I do really nice hits by myself.

[Mattdoesrock]

Knights are completely 100% not fine. To think so is just silly.

[Ryzen]

Knights have no real >defense< spells that are native to them. Army of one, sure for 50 seconds out of the every 3 minutes, but you shouldn't have to use it to have a defense spell. Deflect Proyectiles (awesome spelling btw) only reduces piercing damage and Arcane Constitution only reduces magical damage, which isn't heavily used throughout the game given that only two classes have trees that deal elemental and only one class exclusively.

Everything else knights have for defense is shared with barbarians, even the crowd control spells are shared, actually all of them are aside from Shield Bash.

Really the only thing knights have are shields, high life, broken auras and a destroyed block chance. After that... we're just barbarians with half the damage and half the attack spells.

[Myxir]

Knights are far away from being fine. The class just sucks. I think this facts gets mirrored by the laaaaaaarge amount of knights you see ingame.

[DkySven]

Knights are far away from being fine. The class just sucks. I think this facts gets mirrored by the laaaaaaarge amount of knights you see ingame.

People who only dare to get in range 30 of an enemy when they have Army of One on don't count.

[Signatus]

Knights have no real >defense< spells that are native to them. Army of one, sure for 50 seconds out of the every 3 minutes, but you shouldn't have to use it to have a defense spell. Deflect Proyectiles (awesome spelling btw) only reduces piercing damage and Arcane Constitution only reduces magical damage, which isn't heavily used throughout the game given that only two classes have trees that deal elemental and only one class exclusively.

Everything else knights have for defense is shared with barbarians, even the crowd control spells are shared, actually all of them are aside from Shield Bash.

Really the only thing knights have are shields, high life, broken auras and a destroyed block chance. After that... we're just barbarians with half the damage and half the attack spells.

:drinks:

Still... we are good looking!

[Ryzen]

:drinks:

Still... we are good looking!

:drinks:

Best looking out of all of em.

[Recoil]

We are soooooooooooo fiiine!

Yep.

RA: (link (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/ranking/index.php?l=1&realm=0&opt=2&world=ra))

#1 andino Ignis Molok Knight 50 330.214
#2 L E O N I D A S Ignis Skelics Knight 50 330.117

[DkySven]

Yep.

RA: (link (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/ranking/index.php?l=1&realm=0&opt=2&world=ra))

#1 andino Ignis Molok Knight 50 330.214
#2 L E O N I D A S Ignis Skelics Knight 50 330.117

RP doesn't say a damm thing.
(and those people are aura and area leechers)

[Ryzen]

RP doesn't say a damm thing.
(and those people are aura and area leechers)

And have been playing for a couple years.

[RegnumIrae]

Yep.

RA: (link (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/ranking/index.php?l=1&realm=0&opt=2&world=ra))

#1 andino Ignis Molok Knight 50 330.214
#2 L E O N I D A S Ignis Skelics Knight 50 330.117

Wow, cool.

Knights have too many RPs cos they've been using auras!

As we said, we're soooooooo fine ^^

[UmarilsStillHere]

Yep.

RA: (link (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/ranking/index.php?l=1&realm=0&opt=2&world=ra))

#1 andino Ignis Molok Knight 50 330.214
#2 L E O N I D A S Ignis Skelics Knight 50 330.117

Rp means nothing at all about how well the class plays, and dosnt consider the players playstyle or how long they have palyed (and no time played does not = skill)

Your barb has 4k~ RP, Efrendi for example has over 100k do you think that means he plays his barb 20+ times better than you? :P Or that these knights with 300k+ Rp are 60+* more effective than you in war? :P

[Ryzen]

Rp means nothing at all about how well the class plays, and dosnt consider the players playstyle or how long they have palyed (and no time played does not = skill)

Your barb has 4k~ RP, Efrendi for example has over 100k do you think that means he plays his barb 20+ times better than you? :P Or that these knights with 300k+ Rp are 60+* more effective than you in war? :P

Thats a good example. Another would be to simply look at the difference between the Horus knight ranking and the Ra knight rankings. There are more people on Ra so aura leeching gives you considerably more rp.

Btw, top knight Rp holder on Horus has 43.016. compare that to every other class ranking on Horus.

[RegnumIrae]

Yeah, we're OP.

Caution (4) + Deflect Proyectiles (4) + AoO (5) against a barb using a spear.. wow! What a so great defense!

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6043/screenshot2009072712312.jpg

[Dannboy]

Knight might look cool when they are high lv, but when they get higher, they just suck.

Heres a Knight that is unchallenging to my lv 47 Knight.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/dannyboy123321/screenshot2009-07-2600_47_38.jpg


And heres me, I ran around a little while my allies bashed me to death. I blocked ONCE before I died. I had Passive Block(4) +25% Block chance.
And I had Precise Block (4) +30% block chance for 25 secs(30 Sec CD)
If the quality is low, I can put it on Youtube instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-hLq2FHjCU
EDIT:
Yesh, youtube is bettah!

[-Andresco-]

We are slow
NO defense
NO range
and NO damage