View Full Version : Does this qualify as abuse or not? NGD SHOULD care if you ask me
Macedoniax
10-03-2009, 07:13 PM
http://cid-5873010373bcbe11.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/P.Pictures/abuse%202.jpg.jpg
This conversation took place on Alsius chat on the 2nd of October. I wanted to report it right away but vultureman told me NGD don't care and nothing would happen. On that day, he had said nothing to mithrillia before that, the screenshot shows ALL of the conversation, nothing is missing from the beginning and the end. The reason i'm uploading this now, is that v-man asked me to, apparently mithrillia is bugging him again.
If NGD don't care about this then I'm very disappointed
Klutu
10-03-2009, 07:28 PM
Pfft there Both in the wrong.. i don't know that mith pretty well..
But Vult Starts Holy Wars on the Dam Realm Chat Daily.. so i don't feel bad for either 1 of them.
Vulture@Victorious
10-03-2009, 07:29 PM
Thanks Epicurus for uploading this, i didnt have the screenshot myself ... I don't want this dude reported, what's the use anyway? he will be absent for 48 hours and will be back soon enough
But it's nice enough that people can now know what kind of "person" he is
+ What happens "generally" on alsius chat is irrelevant. The thing that matters is that I never had a history with this individual "mithrillia" ... so if you simply hate me, so be it; but it has nothing to do with this conversation and mithrillia being a jerk and saying things about my mum.
PT_DaAr_PT
10-03-2009, 07:46 PM
http://s4lubq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p4ISy4JNDYIqg45GGgnwN0QGhtG3zVN1wqSxARqaFf28Pvon UpseSoQ53oddwHm2q6qXiFWgsWQuF70hS1jc6kA/abuse%202.jpg.jpg (http://s4lubq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p4ISy4JNDYIqg45GGgnwN0QGhtG3zVN1wqSxARqaFf28Pvon UpseSoQ53oddwHm2q6qXiFWgsWQuF70hS1jc6kA/abuse%202.jpg.jpg)
Link fixed for those that have [img] code on
and ngd does care about that
Hi,
I remind you that anyone that is disrespectful in the game should be reported to abuse@ngdstudios.com.ar (abuse@ngdstudios.com.ar)
We are delaying some days to reply but we need you to report them. The in-game atmosphere is very important and the ones that ruin it will have their warnings and/or measures applied.
Regards,
_Enio_
10-03-2009, 07:49 PM
Look at yourself before pointing on others.
I got enough screens of you (vultureman) insulting out of nothing too. But i kept it on those who got insulted to report it or not in those cases.
Generally keep discussions free of insults and evryone will be fine. ANd if someone insults you try to answer in constructive way or stop it. Its childish and shows a bad look on newcomers.
Vulture@Victorious
10-03-2009, 07:58 PM
Look at yourself before pointing on others.
I got enough screens of you (vultureman) insulting out of nothing too. But i kept it on those who got insulted to report it or not in those cases.
The issue at hand here, is that mithrillia's words are abusive and offensive.
Anything you say about what I have done before this is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT (unless of course, it relates to mithrillia, which as i explained above is unprecedented)
If there have been instances when I myself have mal-behaved, (and I'm sure there have been) I apologize. (I have apologized to many people, I'm adult enough to realize my mistakes once I make them. Ask Rhanya and Falcorn bosso. BUT THE POINT AT HAND is something else.
my friend enio ^ is using the TU QUOQUE fallacy: "vultureman is rude at times himself, so basically it is ok for others to be rude" < wrong way of arguing
Macedoniax
10-03-2009, 08:09 PM
"vultureman has been rude before, so It is ok for "mithrilia" to be a jacka$$ too? "
What method of talking is that enio? you need serious education mater.
I says, Vman needs to email ngd and report this mithrillia pal. whether ngd cares or not, that's for us to see later.
+ vman is a jerk too sometimes ;) but i think he's improving fast
-Sorry V! I'm impartial! (u know i like u)
Altara
10-03-2009, 08:15 PM
This is silly xD
some words were said, who cares?
If you cant see properly then I guess you cant see that Vulture was provoking him.
"Im Iran so say something about my race"
I think I would laugh at any pathetic fool who provokes someone then expects people to feel sorry for them.
Its stupid, its just a game forget it and move on.
Gawyn_Trakkand
10-03-2009, 08:25 PM
+ vman is a jerk too sometimes ;) but i think he's improving fast
-Sorry V! I'm impartial! (u know i like u)
then your not impartial unless i'm mistaken :P
I thought Syrtis had it bad we just have to deal with noobs. from my impartial view (not actually being alsian) they are both as bad as each other the shouty one for what he says and vult for goading the noob yes it is reportable but dont expect it to come back on vult too.
+1 to dalmasca for putting it very well
ArchmagusArcana
10-04-2009, 01:50 AM
Must.....not......troll......Must......be......nic e......
Awww screw it.
Vulture, you spout a lot of crap a lot of the time about a lot of people. I have some very mean-hearted screens of you involving certain racial taunts directed at a friend of mine. As Klutu said, you try to start holy wars every chance you get on realm chat.
If you wanted to report this, you should have done so, not posted here like a little kid, which is EXPRESSLY against rules. All abuse matters should be brought to NGD so it can be handled internally, not by starting a giant flame war here.
You perhaps are related to someone with the initials of D.B. ? ? ? ?
Edit: Also, how do you figure you didnt have the SS, thats your name on the left, the spot that is reserved for 'your' characters name. Sure looks liek you are the one that took the SS. Just curious.
makarios68
10-04-2009, 02:06 AM
Sadly, this looks to me like the sort of thing i'd expect to see in a Horus chat log.
Every time i have played there i've seen this kind of crap.
xiheartyoux
10-04-2009, 02:07 AM
I agree with Arcana xD Even if you're not sure if it's considered abuse or not you should still send it to NGD instead of posting it here, just be sure to let them know when sending it to them that you're not sure if it's abuse in their regards. Posting about abuse here is not allowed and the post will prolly be locked and/or deleted once a dev sees it ^^
Adena
<3
King_Of_Angmar
10-04-2009, 04:40 AM
This is silly xD . . . Its stupid, its just a game forget it and move on.
This is the most intelligent post in the thread, take some good advice and just play the game.
-Edge-
10-04-2009, 07:17 AM
You are both very childish, like was said. You should look at yourself first, and be the better man and ignore something. This isn't the first time, and I doubt it will be the last time realm chat is filled with your petty arguments.
Vulture, seriously, just ignore it if you really stick to your side. Be the better man and just take it. Mith only replies knowing that you will respond, so please stop ruining the realm chat for not only yourselves, but for others. If you seriously have a problem with him you should just chat him up ingame FFS. No one cares about seeing your public duels.
Freduardo
10-04-2009, 07:58 AM
The issue at hand here, is that mithrillia's words are abusive and offensive.
Anything you say about what I have done before this is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT (unless of course, it relates to mithrillia, which as i explained above is unprecedented)
If there have been instances when I myself have mal-behaved, (and I'm sure there have been) I apologize. (I have apologized to many people, I'm adult enough to realize my mistakes once I make them. Ask Rhanya and Falcorn bosso. BUT THE POINT AT HAND is something else.
Not really.
If you look at the screenshot 'your friend took' (xD) you'll see Mith at the start says "WHEN WILL YOU FINALLY ...". That's a clear indication that, even though Mith has never adressed you personally about it, things you said or have done before ARE RELEVANT. It's what triggered him/her into insulting you.
But it's nice enough that people can now know what kind of "person" he is
So every time you misbehave on realm chat, I should take a ss, post it here with some added whining too? And is this, or should this be, retro-active too? Because there seem to be some people with some ss from the past (me included, mostly because I think they're funny).
You know, just so people would know what kind of "person" you are.
(just keeping the thread alive here :P)
Inkster
10-04-2009, 10:25 AM
Dear Mr NGD person
Does this qualify as abuse ^^
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r33/Inkie_04/humor/screenshot2007-08-1622_41_54.jpg
Mr bear is smiling after all
UmarilsStillHere
10-04-2009, 10:47 AM
If you think its report worthy send it diretly to NGD, putting it here is just opening the door for flames.
Arafails
10-04-2009, 11:32 AM
Damnit, the other day I had to stage some drama on Ignis chat to make it interesting....
Pizdzius
10-04-2009, 12:07 PM
That's why I stayed on Ra.
Crowbane
10-04-2009, 12:55 PM
This is one reason I stopped playing altogether. Ra because I was tired of being screamed at by Holas to talk spanish or gtfo the game and Horus because of this kind of c***.Do grow up.
Shame really that the few spoil a server for the majority and make some of the best decide not to go there. For the most part Horus is fun and there is always the ignore option guys :)
UmarilsStillHere
10-04-2009, 01:17 PM
That's why I stayed on Ra.
Ra has a higher population, so likely a lot more Idiots, you just cant understand them which is a nice +1 for Ra.
King_Of_Angmar
10-04-2009, 01:54 PM
This is one reason I stopped playing altogether. Ra because I was tired of being screamed at by Holas to talk spanish or gtfo the game
Thats a new one, can't say i've ever gotten that :O
Inkster
10-04-2009, 03:45 PM
ive not had that one either
Dannboy
10-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Damnit, the other day I had to stage some drama on Ignis chat to make it interesting....
When I logg on its always so quiet, then after 10 mins the whole chat is filled =D
(Mostly by me but who cares xD)
About this.
Its normal Horus drama.
This is whats keeping the old timers at Ra away from Horus.
Unless NGD gets strict like hell, this will go on forever.
Recoil
10-05-2009, 11:48 AM
/ignore vulturex
/ignore mithrillia
Problem solved.
backe
10-06-2009, 05:45 AM
This is one reason I stopped playing altogether. Ra because I was tired of being screamed at by Holas to talk spanish or gtfo the game and Horus because of this kind of c***.Do grow up.
I never once had this problem, and all of the holas I knew and attempted to communicate with were totally stand up and on the level. The only reason I left Ra was that 90% of the people I knew removed themselves from the server.
Ontopic, I guess....
Vulture is a troll, pure and simple. All parties involved should be using the goddamn ignore function.
LOCK TIME, KAILER!!!!!!
_dracus_
10-06-2009, 06:03 AM
Ra has a higher population, so likely a lot more Idiots, you just cant understand them which is a nice +1 for Ra.
Well in fact the problem is not about not understanding them, it's just they are more sparse than on horus with Realm chat. Really it's not hard to catch insults in spanish. But you may be right, there are certainly more idiots, we just see them less.
This doesn't have only advantages, on the other hand Ra feels really lonely when no one of your buddy list is only :(
Winds
10-06-2009, 06:15 AM
Because I'm too lazy to start a thread in suggestions, I'll use this to post my idea.
We should have player moderators ingame and on forums.
This would take part of the work bargain off NGD members, as they wouldn't have to deal with this kind of ****. This would allow them to concentrate more on making the game better, which is probably something we all would like.
Having stricter moderation especially ingame would make the game more attractive for new comers when they wouldn't need to read the flamewars and insults in realm chat nor wouldn't have to ignore spammers themselves. (Which all may not even know how to use /ignore.) I've seen this work in other games and the volunteers do it just for the love of the game and usually don't get even paid or get bit of premium for their efforts.
Other option to clean the chats would be easier means to report abuse. I mean I'm pretty sure not that many bother sending an email, because of few chat lines. Instead the game could have a functionality to report offensive behaviour. Making abuse reports easy would probably lead to a considerable increase in their number. This would mean more work for NGD so probably not such a good idea unless combined with the first.
Ulti19
10-06-2009, 07:10 AM
This kind of stuff shouldn't prevent people from playing on horus. Of course you will always get some people that you find are insulting but as a player in horus alsius, i can vouch that the majority are nice and respectful. So don't judge horus by some random individuals, and join up to make things more fun:D
UmarilsStillHere
10-06-2009, 07:29 AM
Player Mods can work in some games, or just be bad in others, eg corrupt mods, no one wanting to speak near a mod for fear of ban, people harrasing Mods in the dilusion they can give them insta level 50 and good gear...
However if it was done Id suggest placing ++ name ++ markers (one less + than the devs sofc :P) and giving the player Mute/Ban buttons, Mute muting a player for an hour or so and sending a few screens of the last 30 sec to devs and a Ban sending a few screens of last 30 sec to Devs so they can decide what to do.
I quite like Regnum w/o Mods in game though, we are free to say what we want to who we want and police our selfs, (dont like someone? /Ignore em)
Mattdoesrock
10-06-2009, 07:37 AM
I quite like Regnum w/o Mods in game though, we are free to say what we want to who we want and police our selfs, (dont like someone? /Ignore em)
This........
Winds
10-06-2009, 08:05 AM
Player Mods can work in some games, or just be bad in others, eg corrupt mods, no one wanting to speak near a mod for fear of ban, people harrasing Mods in the dilusion they can give them insta level 50 and good gear...
There ofcourse needs to be a way to control mods and they need to have evidence to justify their action in case of complaints.
Anyways this was just an suggestion for me the game works fine as it is. Spammers can be ignored and verbal fights are easy to stay away of by just being polite yourself. I also must admit, that my online gaming experience is very limited, so I haven't seen user moderators in games like this one.
Case closed from my part...
Angelwinged_Devil
10-07-2009, 07:24 AM
Player Mods can work in some games, or just be bad in others, eg corrupt mods, no one wanting to speak near a mod for fear of ban, people harrasing Mods in the dilusion they can give them insta level 50 and good gear...
However if it was done Id suggest placing ++ name ++ markers (one less + than the devs sofc :P) and giving the player Mute/Ban buttons, Mute muting a player for an hour or so and sending a few screens of the last 30 sec to devs and a Ban sending a few screens of last 30 sec to Devs so they can decide what to do.
I quite like Regnum w/o Mods in game though, we are free to say what we want to who we want and police our selfs, (dont like someone? /Ignore em)
there are although some people who keep being rude to everyone they meet, I won't mention any names... I'm not talking about personal problems between some users, it cannot be avoided.
But yes, I like the freedom to a degree.
and about ra, you don't have a realm chat in the wz and you don't understand it as already mentioned ^^.
Orimae
10-07-2009, 03:02 PM
When I logg on its always so quiet, then after 10 mins the whole chat is filled =D
(Mostly by me but who cares xD)
About this.
Its normal Horus drama.
This is whats keeping the old timers at Ra away from Horus.
Unless NGD gets strict like hell, this will go on forever.
Spam you say?... xD and it doesnt take ten mins for this to happen either...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6963/spamchat.jpg
Dannboy
10-07-2009, 04:08 PM
Spam you say?... xD and it doesnt take ten mins for this to happen either...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6963/spamchat.jpg
I posted even more after that, just to beat FI again XD lol
UmarilsStillHere
10-07-2009, 04:18 PM
I remember this back on Ra realm chat
Brad
Braaad
Braaaaad
Braaaaaaaaaad
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
And so on for about half an hour, Dont see to much pointless spam on Syrtis Horus realm chat though, more spam with a point, like 3 hour long arguments about the best sort of Pie.
DkySven
10-07-2009, 05:50 PM
Ooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg gggggggggggggggg!
backe
10-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I remember this back on Ra realm chat
Brad
Braaad
Braaaaad
Braaaaaaaaaad
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
Hehehe!
Oops, I think I may have contributed to that spam fest. :p
You forgot the ever-popular (at least for me)
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB-rad!!!
Dannboy
10-07-2009, 07:03 PM
more spam with a point, like 3 hour long arguments about the best sort of Pie.
Oh, I love those! They can keep me away from grinding hour...yeah hours :3
I loved the times when I, Edge and Dunmer were together talking about how much Edge enjoyed cows, how much Dun loved anime pron or how much I thought Knights sucked.
Aw, good times.
Now I have Ori tho, with her I can talk about Anything!!!!
And more than for 3 hours >.<
Btw Uma, that is called Passive Spamming.
I talked about what it was on Realm chat for almost 40 mins.
-Edge-
10-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Why have sex with one cow?... when you can have sex with MANY cows!
Can haz sp@m convention pl0x?
UmarilsStillHere
10-07-2009, 07:22 PM
We can get an armored anime cow then you call all be happy ^^
-Edge-
10-07-2009, 07:42 PM
Is everyone happy now? Fuuck, it's missing the udders and I forgot to color a spot of green xD
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo238/100PercentRatedR/Umooril.jpg
If NGD made that a boss I would get a haircut.
...
Create-a-boss contest. Do it. Nao.
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