The Assassin of Ignis 1.0.8

[DemonMonger]

I returned today to test out
1.0.8 petless hunter vs knights,barbs,warlocks,hunters,marksmen.
I am very pleased with this update. Combat stratagey has been revamped 100%. He who thinks last dies first, as it should be. The ninja style playing is still highly effective. Can't wait to see what the december update is going to be! Until then, I will see you all later.

Todays kills 25
Todays deaths 1 (death by drowning) :sifflote:

[_dracus_]

Todays kills 25
Todays deaths 1 (death by drowning) :sifflote:

Forgot your snorkel ?

[Comp]

How many of those were lvl 30 and afk :metal:

[GIO879]

and almost dead, i know very well your style, always go out of your camo after the fight to kill the survivors

[LilithRaddle]

So you earned -500 rps today? ^^ (i hope the punisment for kill at save is -20 rps... if not.... let there be an X, where X belongs to N- and X is the amount of rps you lost for killing at enemys save, then make 25*X and you will get the right number ;) )

[DemonMonger]

and almost dead, i know very well your style, always go out of your camo after the fight to kill the survivors

Most of the time yes this is my style :)

I killed people near herbred save that were training or item hunting.

Not when they were low on hp, but when I was sure they had no mana xD

None were afk :) I used the afk players to escape (escapist skill)

Strategey ;)

[Brother-brian]

ftr, that's not "style". Its MO. And it is quite dishonorable imho.

[DemonMonger]

ftr, that's not "style". Its MO. And it is quite dishonorable imho.

Honorable....

I am one vs many... I will not stand still and attack people that are stronger than myself.

I am one vs many... I will pick targets that will die fast and allow me a simple escape..

It is style... my style of murder...

There is no honor is war... when my enemy chases me 20 vs 1...

[Topogigio_BR]

This is a kind of excuse?????????

[Acknor]

Archers:
Hunters should be able to move faster, get and provide tactical information and offer support during wars. Pets still need to be useful. <br>

ADDED after feedback:

- Hunter never meant assassins, they are not meant to hunt other players. They are called hunters because they have special tracking skills and can hunt and tame creatures.



But you're not playing a hunter the way NGD intended...stop right now!

[UmarilsStillHere]

Yeah, go level that most usefull of spells, Tack Monster, and track the monster locations that most players already know anyway, its NGD's Vision after all!

Just think of the standing ovation you will get when as Syrtis moves for samal you can tell your realm mates the number of orcs at OC :)

[DemonMonger]

But you're not playing a hunter the way NGD intended...stop right now!

I can't stop.. I am addicted to the bloodlust

1.0.8 is great for pet users also because people must stop to attack... This gives pet more chances to hit the enemy. It is also easier to escape with 1.0.8 since if the enemy wants to attack you they also must stop :)

[GIO879]

1.0.8 is great for pet users also because people must stop to attack... This gives pet more chances to hit the enemy. It is also easier to escape with 1.0.8 since if the enemy wants to attack you they also must stop

Everything is said in this sentance, the hunters are still gods and the other a little peace of s**t

Sorry but i realy don't agree this vision, everybody could have his chance in a fight all class confused...

And i repeat again NGd will not see my money anymore as long the things will stay like this ( and i'm not the only one to think that)

[UmarilsStillHere]

Give hunters more fighting spells, less running away spells, simple, its not logical that one class should be both very effective fighting one on one and more capable of escape than any other class.

[DemonMonger]

Give hunters more fighting spells, less running away spells, simple, its not logical that one class should be both very effective fighting one on one and more capable of escape than any other class.

We only have 1 fighting skill from the hunter tree... Ensnare..
So take that away?

The other skills hunters use, all archers can use....

What do you want from us? Stop using basic archery when we become hunters? Even if we don't use pet?

The only person that escaped me was hunter... why?
Because each time i went to shoot ensnare I paused too long and he was out of range. Hunters can catch other hunters but it's difficult :) I caught a few... It won't matter if we have less attack spells we only need 1.

The only time you will catch a hunter is in rvr combat with a smart team, or inside a fort once hes trapped, or if you sneak up on him while he's killing noobs.

[UmarilsStillHere]

oh my god do you even read, I said give Hunters MORE not take away the one you have :P

[Topogigio_BR]

Just want two things from hunters:
1. When hunters run away too fast they simply lost the pets, the same way as conjus to summons.
2. Give pets a penalty in damage for hunters don't have 2x they're lvl damage (hunter +pet).
This is 2 simple solutions that can make a big difference in the game.

[kamax]

Remove the ability to shoot under sotw and the mob stop attack, a escape spell is a escape spell !
And something must be done with the hunter pet, i get 2x more damage from him now that the hunter. Count with this that the pet hit me while i run wihtout stopping...

NDG don't want the hunter be as assasins but that's what they are now.

[DemonMonger]

oh my god do you even read, I said give Hunters MORE not take away the one you have :P

I read it... and at the same time I remembered the words of NGD saying that hunters were not made to kill people quickly. Thus, my comments came out the way they did... you said... we should not be able to attack + own , and be able to escape. I am saying even with 1 attack skill we will be able to attack and escape. We can escape more so because of the global cooldown. People must stop and wait to cast... we keep running.. global cooldown ends and the same thing happens... Even hunters fall prey to the pause in combat allowing other hunters to escape.

Hunters cannot get more attack skills.... this would make them kill everything like gods.

Even if hunters had just escape skills and basic attack they would be lethal.

Sorry about the randomness I am watching Maury :) YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER.

If hunters only had passive speed and many attacks... they would still escape the same.

If hunters did not have passive speed... they would escape the same....

[UmarilsStillHere]

Many times people in realm chat when the class's are described to them have said how strange it is to have hunters (A totaly independant class) mixed with 5 class's that need to work together to be realy effective, Ofc NGD wont do anything drastic at this point like making hunters more team based and less independant, and as such hunters will be annoying grinders by popping out of camo just as they sit to rest, running away on 1hp, taking forts solo once everyone else has left thanks to stupid guard AI and so on...

[DemonMonger]

Many times people in realm chat when the class's are described to them have said how strange it is to have hunters (A totaly independant class) mixed with 5 class's that need to work together to be realy effective, Ofc NGD wont do anything drastic at this point like making hunters more team based and less independant, and as such hunters will be annoying grinders by popping out of camo just as they sit to rest, running away on 1hp, taking forts solo once everyone else has left thanks to stupid guard AI and so on...

I used to roam solo with my warlock as well... before my hunter was even thought of being created. Now though every realm has so many hunters it's hard to sneak up on people unless you are a hunter.

todays kills 20
deaths 1

p.s. 1vs1 darkmurcury + his giant tol tar + magna bow? (eliminated by a petless hunter)
Maybe next time you won't stalk me up the mountain xD

Shout outs: TWINKLE INKSTER CHALO!!! Nice to see you guys in game :)

[Inkster]

was nice to see you as well :)

[_Enio_]

I returned today to test out
1.0.8 petless hunter vs knights,barbs,warlocks,hunters,marksmen.
I am very pleased with this update. Combat stratagey has been revamped 100%. He who thinks last dies first, as it should be. The ninja style playing is still highly effective. Can't wait to see what the december update is going to be! Until then, I will see you all later.

Todays kills 25
Todays deaths 1 (death by drowning) :sifflote:

Can you explain me why your Brag-talk about killing grinders does belong into General discussion?

[King_Of_Angmar]

Remove the ability to shoot under sotw and the mob stop attack, a escape spell is a escape spell !

Not all hunters use this as an escape spell, just the ones who are too wimpy to fight. I will only use it as an escape spell outnumbered 3-1. SOTW is an offensive spell used to resist other offensive spells.

[DemonMonger]

Can you explain me why your Brag-talk about killing grinders does belong into General discussion?

There is more in the content than mere braggage(tm).
I like the update and can see where this style of playing can bring regnum in the future. You know what I would like to see? I would like to see warriors armor give them a % change to deflect basic shot of arrows while moving.
Skills however should not be effected by this. It will allow warriors more of a chance in battle and a bit of realism.

My question to you is why you post on my braggage(tm) without adding info about 1.0.8? The people that died were not all grinders only mmm about 7 or so. The remainder of the kills obtained were people running to or from save, across pb, or to or from herbred, algaros fort.

My post is to give hope to all the assassins in regnum!
diego de syrtis + giant tol tar (assassinated as he hunted me form pb)

Not all hunters use this as an escape spell, just the ones who are too wimpy to fight. I will only use it as an escape spell outnumbered 3-1. SOTW is an offensive spell used to resist other offensive spells.

I use son of wind because spell elude is broken...
For me son of winds purpose is to first assault on mages, or to give an added boost after mobility to escape. I do not use son of wind vs warriors or archers for assault purposes period. Son of the wind takes too much mana to be an effective assault skill for most people. (timing is everything)

[kamax]

Sotw is a god mod spell vs mages(of course not for warriors...). Into the hand of someone who can come out from camo in your back and ambush you, remove you a lot of hp while on the groud, it's just 0 chance for every warlock(except if the hunter play very very bad).

A god mod spell must not exist, specially if while the time of the god mod you can shoot.

[DemonMonger]

Sotw is a god mod spell vs mages(of course not for warriors...). Into the hand of someone who can come out from camo in your back and ambush you, remove you a lot of hp while on the groud, it's just 0 chance for every warlock(except if the hunter play very very bad).

A god mod spell must not exist, specially if while the time of the god mod you can shoot.

It's not a god spell vs mages...
1v1 option SOTW is semi godly but flawed...

SOTW is 15 seconds max... and it takes 30 - 45 seconds for petless hunter to kill a pre barrier buffed mage.
(Good luck trying this with a staff mastery mage)
(Good luck trying this vs a Mage with a Zarkit)

SOTW is 15 seconds max... and it takes 12 - 25 seconds for a pet weilding hunter to kill a mage thats confused.
(but if the mage kills the pet this wont happen)
(Good luck trying this vs a warlock with a Zarkit)
vs conji they can barrier + steel skin + heal and live....
(if confuse fails)

vs warlock they can barrier + soulkeep + vamp drain the pet = pets dead (even if confused pets dead)

There have been many times I died vs a warlock because I had no mana left + soulkeeper + vampire both hit me after my sotw ended.
(timing is everything)

Warlock is the only class I shit my pants over in regnum... scary...

[kamax]

Barrier go away in 2s with normal hit+pet, soulkeeper+vampirism only works if you are not under Sotw. If you are afraid to fight with a lock you should change your timing.

Some hunters can kill me in far less that 30s and let me dizzy/knock down all the fight = i do him 0 damages. If you count normal hit ~250 + pet normal hit ~250 too= 500 damages every hmmm what ? 1,5s ? maybe 2s ? 3000(my hp)/500=6 round (normal+pet). 6x2=12s ! Sotw 15s.
Of course i have a shield(750) but you have dual shot ~400 and ensarning ~400/500. So you can kill me in less that 15s with the good timing.

Hunters don't need a god mod vs warlock even it's only 15s.

[DemonMonger]

Barrier go away in 2s with normal hit+pet, soulkeeper+vampirism only works if you are not under Sotw. If you are afraid to fight with a lock you should change your timing.

Some hunters can kill me in far less that 30s and let me dizzy/knock down all the fight = i do him 0 damages. If you count normal hit ~250 + pet normal hit ~250 too= 500 damages every hmmm what ? 1,5s ? maybe 2s ? 3000(my hp)/500=6 round (normal+pet). 6x2=12s ! Sotw 15s.
Of course i have a shield(750) but you have dual shot ~400 and ensarning ~400/500. So you can kill me in less that 15s with the good timing.

Hunters don't need a god mod vs warlock even it's only 15s.

lol I refuse to use confusion...
I don't use distracting shot...

warlocks can drain all hp back from pet and kill the hunter....

[_Enio_]

My question to you is why you post on my braggage(tm) without adding info about 1.0.8? The people that died were not all grinders only mmm about 7 or so. The remainder of the kills obtained were people running to or from save, across pb, or to or from herbred, algaros fort.

My post is to give hope to all the assassins in regnum!
diego de syrtis + giant tol tar (assassinated as he hunted me form pb)


Well your initial post doesnt encourage adding information on others opinions and experiences with 1.0.8.
Anyway, my experiences are good so far and i look forward to minor issues being fixed in the next updates. Still i believe this sort of topics belongs into the Inn ;)

[Inkster]

Sotw is a god mod spell vs mages

I totally disagree, even after the latest update im able to take out an archer using it

You just have to work out how to do it yourself.

Imho for every skill or spell any class has, there is a skill you can use to negate it (IE: still win the fight)

Assuming your not outnumbered of course

[kamax]

I totally disagree, even after the latest update im able to take out an archer using it

You just have to work out how to do it yourself.

Imho for every skill or spell any class has, there is a skill you can use to negate it (IE: still win the fight)

Assuming your not outnumbered of course
I don't say it's impossible to win but with a special chain spell and Sotw a hunter can win with very few damages on him.

Sotw block every spell(except if you are very very lucky, bug ?), if this time you can kill the pet it's not an excuse, the hunter has a 15s god mod. I hardly see how you can disagree with that.

[DemonMonger]

I totally disagree, even after the latest update im able to take out an archer using it

You just have to work out how to do it yourself.

Imho for every skill or spell any class has, there is a skill you can use to negate it (IE: still win the fight)

Assuming your not outnumbered of course

+ 1 Amen :angel1:
I think it's easier for warlocks to kill archers in 1.0.8 because of the "delay factor"

I don't say it's impossible to win but with a special chain spell and Sotw a hunter can win with very few damages on him.

Sotw block every spell(except if you are very very lucky, bug ?), if this time you can kill the pet it's not an excuse, the hunter has a 15s god mod. I hardly see how you can disagree with that.

In the past before global cooldown archers could use a fast bow and spam multi skills.. as could warlocks. This is not possible anymore, so the knocks attack + confuse combo is now a knock + confuse combo and by the time they cast confuse you are standing again giving you time to kill the pet and then punish the hunter for attacking you. Without a pet it will take the hunter longer than the duration of confuse to kill you allowing you to rebarrier an even use vampire drain twice.

I disagree with it being a god mode... basic attack from a staff mastery mage rape us, barbs basics, marks basics, knights can aoo and outlast it. Maybe you are not lvl 50 yet?

[kamax]

+ 1 Amen :angel1:
I think it's easier for warlocks to kill archers in 1.0.8 because of the "delay factor"
In your previous post you say it's easyer for you to kill someone because the other have to stay to shoot while the pet still shoot on the other...
Warlocks have delay too...a so long delay that you have no more difference between staffs speed. It's like i play with a slow staff and a hunter pet more glued to me if i compare with pre 1.0.8.
In the past before global cooldown archers could use a fast bow and spam multi skills.. as could warlocks. This is not possible anymore, so the knocks attack + confuse combo is now a knock + confuse combo and by the time they cast confuse you are standing again giving you time to kill the pet and then punish the hunter for attacking you. Without a pet it will take the hunter longer than the duration of confuse to kill you allowing you to rebarrier an even use vampire drain twice.
And ? You don't use confuse well, this spell don't avoid me to shoot on you. Confuse is not a big problem for me if i already have my shield+devotion on.

[DemonMonger]

In your previous post you say it's easyer for you to kill someone because the other have to stay to shoot while the pet still shoot on the other...
Warlocks have delay too...a so long delay that you have no more difference between staffs speed. It's like i play with a slow staff and a hunter pet more glued to me if i compare with pre 1.0.8.

And ? You don't use confuse well, this spell don't avoid me to shoot on you. Confuse is not a big problem for me if i already have my shield+devotion on.

You don't use mental? Ivy, Will domain, Mind push?
Elementals? Freeze ?

Try some of these spells... and use a new staff.

[kamax]

You don't use mental? Ivy, Will domain, Mind push?
Elementals? Freeze ?

Try some of these spells... and use a new staff.
Nooo, i'm a great noob who just use unbuffed normal hit with a defective staff lvl10 mouahahaha....bye

[_Enio_]

Nooo, i'm a great noob who just use unbuffed normal hit with a defective staff lvl10 mouahahaha....bye

Well, mages GCD is around the speed you had before with a fast staff, So check your delays, it must be buggy for you - me and others experience very nice delays between casts, just a precast would be nice.

SoW is godmode ina way - but only when you use it right, mental chain is godmode in another way but only when you use it right.

ofc you have a problem when you Eat a SoW+stunfist+ambush(whatever combination you like,still theres 1 that is most secure win) when a pet is pounding on you - a efficiently skilled smart hunter without resists will most likely kill you in an open field without giving you much chance to do anything - but thats a design decision, and 1 small error on hunters side allows you to totally change the odds.

Thats a part of the deal, your a warlock with the most powerful and funny spells (single target aswell as areas) aviable.. go figure.

And yes, your statement explains why you dont fear confuse once you got barrier and arcdev :P

[DemonMonger]

I heard a rumor that we will have visible arrows in the future!!!! Regnum is getting better and better!!!

Nice try today Valinor :) It was a pleasure fighting with you :lightsabre:

3vs1 Knight lvl 48, Barb lvl 50, Archer lvl 45 vs petless hunter ninja
Ninja wins!

Enio, I am afraid to test my warlock... Don't know what to expect from them now.

[Inkster]

I am afraid to test my warlock... Don't know what to expect from them now.

Lets just say, it 'different' for warlocks now ;)

[max127]

Yeah, go level that most usefull of spells, Tack Monster, and track the monster locations that most players already know anyway, its NGD's Vision after all!

Just think of the standing ovation you will get when as Syrtis moves for samal you can tell your realm mates the number of orcs at OC :)


i don't think track monster is so 'useless' spell,

new players can use it to find mobs to kill around. espacially in alsius(kheled valley) .....very hard to find 'tiny ferrets' and other mobs......they r just spread out. that's why grinding for lvl10-13 for alsius noobs is a bit painful

[SPARTISH]

nice tactics xD
but for me letting ur pet deal the damage while u just run in circles with ambush, stunning fist and retaliation never gets old xD

just for my own use DMC how often do u own hunters with pets and how often do hunters with pets own you?

[DemonMonger]

nice tactics xD
but for me letting ur pet deal the damage while u just run in circles with ambush, stunning fist and retaliation never gets old xD

just for my own use DMC how often do u own hunters with pets and how often do hunters with pets own you?

1vs1in an open area 80% of the time I will win vs pet hunters

my last battle was 1 barb 1 knight 1 hunter..
first i killed the hunter
then the barb
then the knight... and I have no pet...

if a pet hunter surprises me and casts confuse I can still escape 60% of the time or even kill their pet plus them as they get over confident. (repetition works magic)

[SPARTISH]

1vs1in an open area 80% of the time I will win vs pet hunters

my last battle was 1 barb 1 knight 1 hunter..
first i killed the hunter
then the barb
then the knight... and I have no pet...

if a pet hunter surprises me and casts confuse I can still escape 60% of the time or even kill their pet plus them as they get over confident. (repetition works magic)

wth how did u even find the time to shoot back with 2 warriors chasing u and every shot u hit u would get hit 4 times (assuming the hunter has a pet), and a archer casting amushes, ensares and confuse, plus knights ambush/kick u every chance they get... nevermind kill them O_o


mm how much of them were afk?

[_Enio_]

wth how did u even find the time to shoot back with 2 warriors chasing u and every shot u hit u would get hit 4 times (assuming the hunter has a pet), and a archer casting amushes, ensares and confuse, plus knights ambush/kick u every chance they get... nevermind kill them O_o


mm how much of them were afk?

Just run a bit and you have the hunter separated a bit to the warriors, enough time to attack the hunter before the warriors are in range, SoW makes sure you dont get knockd. once the hunters dead you can run again and kill the melee from range..
Sure youll need to use your skills nicely but its doable when the ppl you fight arent that carefully.. And majority of Hunters isnt very careful anyway, too much used to easy fights and/or fleeing and watching more on the track then on whats actually goin on around xD

[SPARTISH]

Just run a bit and you have the hunter separated a bit to the warriors, enough time to attack the hunter before the warriors are in range, SoW makes sure you dont get knockd. once the hunters dead you can run again and kill the melee from range..
Sure youll need to use your skills nicely but its doable when the ppl you fight arent that carefully.. And majority of Hunters isnt very careful anyway, too much used to easy fights and/or fleeing and watching more on the track then on whats actually goin on around xD

pfft if they were experianced warriors they would have knocked him straight away and he woul dhave never got up...when u SOtW u get hit 4 normal shots of the warriors, hunter n pet...

used the speed boost spells to keep away from the warriors =o?

mmm there must have been a tree involved in which he used to take cover from the hunter and aviod being hit by the warriors by running laps around. or he got stuck in a buged place that the warriors couldnt reach him and he just ranged them out? xD or he did the drown the noobs at aggers==>herb bridge xD

[_Enio_]

You cannot knock "right away" when ur chasing a hunter with maxspeed. It was prolly a 3man group who chased DMC and he killed first the hunter, then ran a bit, then the barb with some ranged kiting and cc and in the end the knight.. it wasnt like 3 ppl hitting on him and he killd em all on once..

[VandaMan]

You cannot knock "right away" when ur chasing a hunter with maxspeed. It was prolly a 3man group who chased DMC and he killed first the hunter, then ran a bit, then the barb with some ranged kiting and cc and in the end the knight.. it wasnt like 3 ppl hitting on him and he killd em all on once..

That's reasonable, but I think it's more likely that it was a three man grinding party, and he just didn't wanna say that. So what really happened: he uncamoes and kills the grinding hunter when he's at low hp, casts SOTW and runs and hides. Waits for camo to cool, comes back and kills the grinding barb at low hp, and then CCs and kites the knight easily (since he's a knight).

xD

[Pwnography]

ehem..
petless hunters FTW!!

[_Enio_]

ehem..
amu FTW!!

:sifflote: *hides*

[Pwnography]

:sifflote: *hides*
lol i was so happy when i saw "you have defeated Enio" in my log last night :metal:

[_Enio_]

lol i was so happy when i saw "you have defeated Enio" in my log last night :metal:
Hehe damn you hunters XD At least you didnt get me 1 vs 1 with full hp yet. Always nice to have excuses for a death <.<

[UmarilsStillHere]

Hehe damn you hunters XD At least you didnt get me 1 vs 1 with full hp yet. Always nice to have excuses for a death <.<

Well I can blame every death in the past 2 years on my crap Pc, an excuse I will be losing soon :sifflote:

I cant count the number if times my Fps has froze mid war leaving me standing like a tard for 20 seconds :}

[_Enio_]

Ill hopefully lose my bad-net excuse soon too.. will be hard times :P

[Pwnography]

Hehe damn you hunters XD At least you didnt get me 1 vs 1 with full hp yet. Always nice to have excuses for a death <.<
yeah even though it wasnt 1on1 i still got 13 rp for it so i did the majority of the damage,but you and that rock......running around it like a mad man thinking he has a tail to chase....atleast i got you in the end :sifflote::cuac:

[Pwnography]

yet
so i have a chance? ;):cuac:

[Aries202]

I have not yet to test this update, though i have seen some nice features from my time away. I'm still not used to the new walking system, i have no time to practice. Though it does look promising, while others envy it.

It seems your style play never changes DM :wub2:

It also seems it still botheres people that you show your records of your cruel hunts.

PS: I still liked you better as a warlock.(Learning from you of course.)xD

[DemonMonger]

I have not yet to test this update, though i have seen some nice features from my time away. I'm still not used to the new walking system, i have no time to practice. Though it does look promising, while others envy it.

It seems your style play never changes DM :wub2:

It also seems it still botheres people that you show your records of your cruel hunts.

PS: I still liked you better as a warlock.(Learning from you of course.)xD

Long live regnum!:metal:

[_Enio_]

It also seems it still botheres people that you show your records of your cruel hunts.


Seems i've overseen that, as its directed to me too ill answer on it.

Those "records of cruel hunts" bother me because the reason to show off kills like in this thread mainly serves egocentrism and to prove superiority. Especially since its posted into General Discussion (flag for important issues - the inn is for fun stuff).

Im contemptuous on such behaviour.

When you are boasting about achievements which are quite usual occurrances for many players you dont have to wonder about being mocked.
You dont have to wonder about not been taken serious for other content either.

Enio

[_dracus_]

Those "records of cruel hunts" bother me because the reason to show off kills like in this thread mainly serves egocentrism and to prove superiority. Especially since its posted into General Discussion (flag for important issues - the inn is for fun stuff).


Well, we hunters are superiors to others. We at least chose the best class in the game xD

[_Enio_]

Well, we hunters are superiors to others. We at least chose the best class in the game xD

Best class? Because its so much fun to play hunter these days? XD

[_dracus_]

Best class? Because its so much fun to play hunter these days? XD

yes if you ambush people in rivers, otherwise no :-D

[_Enio_]

Hunter - ambush, distshot, caltrops, Hinder
Marks - ambush, distshot, caltrops, Hinder, Winter stroke, Lightning arrow.

Pwnd XD