Petition for Lowing Arrow Cost

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ARCHERS....TO THE READY!!

More and more things in this game are costing gold yet we spend GOBS of money on arrows. NGD needs to do one of two things (IMO).

1) Lower cost of arrows significantly; or
2) Increase MOB drops of arrows

Join in and sign the petition....perhaps they'll listen.

Compost - broke arse archer

[Saltor]

Seconded!

Fixing the arrow cost bug (50 = X, 100 = X*3, etc) wouldn't hurt either :P

[UmarilsStillHere]

Arrow costs are stupidly High, I can only just keep Kailas in profit when grinding with level 33 arrows and if I get enough drops to sell.

[frank1216]

Yes, please change this!

[tikinho]

Why you care about fucking arrows so many things suck about this game and need instant fix......

[Mattdoesrock]

Because no money = no arrows = no game for archers.




(Hey perhaps this is a good way to stem the flow of Syrtis? :sifflote: )

[tikinho]

Grind more ;)

[Immune]

(Hey perhaps this is a good way to stem the flow of Syrtis? :sifflote: )

/me inflates arrow prices in syrtis x100

Anyways... yes, lower arrow costs/more arrow drops. Or lower repair costs would definitely help too.
... on second thought, let's just make everything free! :sifflote:

[Mattdoesrock]

Grind more ;)

Great suggestion for an RvR game! :thumb_up:

[Gytha_Ogg]

Grind more ;)

Yeah, and, um, try not to use arrows when you're grinding, cuz really, that just makes the problem worse. :sifflote:

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

i dont play my marx nearly ever anymore but this is one of the main reasons i quit him. i couldnt pay for the fcking arrows!!! HUGE +1

[Southern_Filly]

great idea, drop more arrows with higher lever mobs and/or lower the price. I already use repair hammers to save my gold for arrows and fort upgrades. Please consider this NGD :-)

[tikinho]

Make another char for money grind more this is why RO is about GRINDING.....

[Nhuzgul]

Yes....Arrows are costing me more in the long run than repairs.

[makarios68]

My vote is for lower arrow costs.

Been asking for it since 2007 :rolleyes:

[_Enio_]

+123456789

[Zas_]

Even worse since attack speed was increased.... fix it.

[DemonMonger]

unless we get an increase in weapons drops to sell, we need the price to drop for arrow prices. Even if we grind, unless we get drops to sell we will go broke.

[linearguild]

+1

I have to regularly mug my mages to pay for arrows and repairs.

[Wes_]

Just give warjus passive speed and camo abilities. Problem solved.

[mute]

+1

My Marksman is already a beggar in Altaruk city...

[wosuhecy]

i am going to be goldless soon :/
because of insane repair cost and arrow price.
i guess soon or later, streets of cities will be full of beggar marks.

[Laeloth_Claireplaine]

Don't worry, Woswos, I can lend you a bit of cash for an advantageous interest rate. (mwahahaha, I love my job ! :D)

Lowering a bit the arrows cost would ease archers life. Repairing costs are already tremendous.

[Gabburtjuh]

yeah, for grinding 100k u need lots of arrows, even with slow bow and boost, and with wars etc going on to, u need to pay around 60k to arrows every
100k xp, not a problem if u wouldnt need repairs or when u get good loot, but when u war some more, or have med/fast bow, u get a problem really fast,

lower arrows +1:metal:

[Anpu]

I totally agree.

[Pnarpa]

I agree. +1

[Greyman_tle]

+1 goes without saying really...shld have been done ages ago.

[Kasp1]

I like the first option more :P

[Mbwana]

yes! yes! and yes!

(it's ridiculous; I have to go around shooting initiation arrows :S might as well throw flowers)

[NetBlaster]

+1 from me ntblstr had to raid money from my marks... and now my marks is abandoned for the moment :(

[Bladnoch]

I agree to this. But an official petition needs 10,000 signatures for any effect, more than probably all the active players on every server.

Besides, I doubt we will sort this situation out with a petition. NGD will learn sooner than later that arrow costs (along with other deeper, underlying problems) will take their toll on the game...

/pessimism

You can do it guys! :)

[Flightcap]

+1 And I don't even have an archer character.

[wosuhecy]

i have to admit. reaching a lvl 50 marks was paintfull. i did it on the 2008 year.
since that time may thing changed.
actually, i saw my gold decreased drasticly, mostly from repair cost (weapon cost repair mostly ....) not armor.
i can handle armor over xim's repair but not weapon ....
This is why i am going broked...., can you NGD (as a return of user if some follow me this way), lesser damage our favorite weapon like our armor do suffer.
i mean, i will be really HAPPY to see my weapon durability following my armor durability in the same order of point

[Gawyn_Trakkand]

+1 from me my hunter is only lvl 45 and 3k arrows (not a lot) cost 60k gold so at lvl 50 you are talking 120k for approxamatly 5k arrows when most grind sessions sell for 200k this is barely going to keep me with arrows and my repair costs.

[Nahbi]

+1 agree with every fiber of my being

[makarios68]

+1 agree with every fiber of my being

WOW, you want it bad! xD

[monktbd]

+1
Overall all classes should be balanced with their expenses (e.g. have repair costs for knights and warriors be toned down, make arrows cheaper and make repairs for mages more expensive).

[bois]

You all have my 'yes' vote on this even though I don't really play archer much.

Artec

[Silent_Shadow]

My vote is "yes" a billion times. I get around 10k arrows for my 45 marks, it costs a lot. The only reason I have not gone broke yet is because of drops and selling magna lol.

[DemonMonger]

If you want to grind and not use 1 gold coin at all.... do the following

1) take off your armor
2) begin combat at max range
3) use only attack skills
4) press and hold S to walk back out of enemy range
5) conserve mana by pressing <ctrl> as soon as skill is cast
6) move on to next target
7) If you use shortbow and dual shot you can basically have infinate mana
8) work in groups with this method for fast high GRP xp.

Goodluck

p.s. Arrows and darts on other games I play no matter what level they are are 1 gold per arrow, but you cant buy or use arrows that are higher than your level

[bois]

If you want to grind and not use 1 gold coin at all.... do the following

1) take off your armor
2) begin combat at max range
3) use only attack skills
4) press and hold S to walk back out of enemy range
5) conserve mana by pressing <ctrl> as soon as skill is cast
6) move on to next target
7) If you use shortbow and dual shot you can basically have infinate mana
8) work in groups with this method for fast high GRP xp.

Goodluck

p.s. Arrows and darts on other games I play no matter what level they are are 1 gold per arrow, but you cant buy or use arrows that are higher than your level

I don't play archer much but would you not still need a bow and arrows? Last time I checked the arrows still cost money and a bow wears out. Maybe you should say 'reduce your upkeep' rather than say 'not use 1 gold coin'. Also I thought this was an arrow cost discussion not a mana conservation one. I could be wrong though.

Artec

[linearguild]

Spells don't consume arrows. I'm not sure if they wear down the bow though.

[Radian]

+all that can be +'ed

I don't have time to grind. I barely have time to play.

I ran out of arrows in the middle of a big fight at imp the other day. I only had enough dough to buy 1500 arrows, and couldn't repair.

Robbed my conj and lock again, but that's not going to work for long.

Might be nice to not have to run all the way to Birka to get the good ones too. FFS What are lvl 48 arrows doing in birka anyway?

linearguild: I think repair costs are calculated by damage done (not received) to other players or mobs.

[DemonMonger]

I don't play archer much but would you not still need a bow and arrows? Last time I checked the arrows still cost money and a bow wears out. Maybe you should say 'reduce your upkeep' rather than say 'not use 1 gold coin'. Also I thought this was an arrow cost discussion not a mana conservation one. I could be wrong though.

Artec

Spells dont wear down arrows or consume the bow....
They are magical not physical, they only take mana

Spells don't consume arrows. I'm not sure if they wear down the bow though.

You are right.. and they don't lower bow...

+1

People attacking me for trying to assist them... pffft

[Kittypretty]

i dont think they were attacking..but the bottom line is, how many people know this other than people who havent been playing a fair time? granted i have to do the same when grinding for money on my hunter (or actually grabbing a pet, which is odd since i do not normally use one)

and people shouldnt have to go thru such a tedious process to make a profit, or to save money in this game (not your fault obviously, and i know your intention was to help)

so really ngd needs to change a few key areas so everyone can grind and level, and make an income instead of barely making even, or actually losing money.

[Mbwana]

hmm, I noticed this little fact: when grinding I always make a point to stay out of mobs' range (I actually use some of DM's suggestion when grinding), but even though I kill them without them reaching me my bow still gets damaged :/

how'd that happen?

[Gytha_Ogg]

hmm, I noticed this little fact: when grinding I always make a point to stay out of mobs' range (I actually use some of DM's suggestion when grinding), but even though I kill them without them reaching me my bow still gets damaged :/

how'd that happen?

The constant flexing of the bow takes its toll, plus the strings wear out...I guess.

I have to repair my staff, even though I don't actually bonk anyone with it - probably needs the mana spark plug re-gapped, at least that's what the guy at the repair shop keeps telling me.

[DemonMonger]

hmm, I noticed this little fact: when grinding I always make a point to stay out of mobs' range (I actually use some of DM's suggestion when grinding), but even though I kill them without them reaching me my bow still gets damaged :/

how'd that happen?

Tested for hours... bow only takes damage when you shoot basic shot... So when you are fighting you must be using normal shot from time to time.

If you want to prevent any use of normal shots you can remove arrows all together and use long bow shield peirce (since it is all skill based damage) and also break apart. You can still use short bow and if you are a hunter ensnare tear apart and dual shot without arrows... Dual shot and ensnare are effected by what arrows you hold, but tear apart is pure damage (also tear apart is great to use on higher level monsters)

If you are focused only on xp and killing while saving money... use a level 1 long bow and a level 1 shortbow. Start by casting break apart, switch to shortbow and cast tear apart. This will kill most monsters.

Goodluck...

[Malik2]

I agree arrow prices should be lower...this tread is still about that right?

[DemonMonger]

I agree arrow prices should be lower...this tread is still about that right?

Yes

This poll is still about NGD lowering the price of arrows.

1 gold coin per arrow is fine with me since we cannot use arrows that are higher than our level already.

I think this problem effects marksmen far more than it does hunters.

[KlosPl]

Yes

This poll is still about NGD lowering the price of arrows.

1 gold coin per arrow is fine with me since we cannot use arrows that are higher than our level already.

I think this problem effects marksmen far more than it does hunters.
I believe that the cost of purchasing the shot should be less ... At current prices I spend 60 to 120k a day on the shots ... If I have to add such a repair drew only a few days

[Linuxmage]

I must be unique...

I have 2 level 30 marks in the field, both with (just) bordering on 1 million gold.

I buy probably 1000 arrows a day when grinding, all at level, and they cost me about 10k gold a day at present. Thing is, when I'm done grinding, and sell all the loot from the mobs, I probably raise 10-15k or more, especially if there are good weapons from other classes dropped.

Recently, I have gained a bow that seems to need a lot of repairing. I have a theory that a bow can only take a certain number of repairs before its broken completely, and the periods between repairs get shorter, as each repair is just patching up.

So, you need to purchase new equipment from time to time. Stick with Common level weapons, and you will save money on them.

Also, remember, if it comes to it, stop hoarding the magna and sell it.

[linearguild]

No, you just haven't reached the level when repairs and arrow costs become a pain. Level 30 marksmen do make profits from grinding besides getting extra gold from quests. As you gain levels though, equipment costs increase while the amount of gold you get from selling loot stays the same.

[DemonMonger]

time to grind naked with a pet.....
running low on coins from all the mini wars...

[KlosPl]

time to grind naked with a pet.....
running low on coins from all the mini wars...
But on 50 lvl you geting not much drops to sell or trade ... its realy hard... i made ~1.5 mln xp and got only 3 drops for sell

[DemonMonger]

But on 50 lvl you geting not much drops to sell or trade ... its realy hard... i made ~1.5 mln xp and got only 3 drops for sell

kill ghosts and snakes.. they drop more

[KlosPl]

Im killing evrything what is yellow + and nada .. just NGD should change drops system
I thing 1-5 mln xp 5% chance to get drop
5-10 7% chance
10-15 10%
something like that

[DemonMonger]

haha today because I am low on cash.... I went to war naked without arrows in my quiver.

results


I would only use camo + repetition to assist terrors + warrior areas then retreat and use ensnare with a longbow.

Total cost of war = 0 gold
Total gained from 2 hours war 8570 gold

Small profit.... but war was fun all the way :)


It can be done!!!! NO ARMOR NOR ARROWS!!!

[Revolverxxx]

no money
no food
no arrows
wife and 3 kids to feed
plz help
:rale:

arrow cost hasnt really been a problem for me below lvl50 because of the constant income recieved from grinding... but the problem comes when you stop grinding for exp. i mean 50 lvls is enough, why do we need to grind furthur just for money.

i suggest maybe having some kind of unemployment or retirement funds for players above lvl50. <-- was orignally intended to be a joke but it could work

another suggestion is having some kind of repeatable quest that gives a high amount of gold and maybe magnanites. something similar to those lvl30 and 40 quests where you have to kill realm enemies but on a higher scale.
eg. killing 100 alsius enemies would give you 150k and 5 magnanites (more or less). this would also promote more people participating in wars too.

oh and drop prices of arrows too. that would be nice. it would be cool if we could chop down trees and carve our own arrows, something similar to a game that im sure all of us have played sometime in our lives but are too embarresed to admit in public

[Anpu]

It can be done!!!! NO ARMOR NOR ARROWS!!!
It can be done, but its not how it supposed to be.

[Nhuzgul]

It can be done, but its not how it supposed to be.

Exactly....you shouldn't have to go to extremes like that in order to have enough money to by arrows.

[frank1216]

No, so please let us not grind more but lower arrow cost.

[AariEv]

I vote for lowering arrow costs. I'm relatively a new player (one lvl 29 marksman char), but I've seen the costs of arrows for higher level archers. It's rediculous. In order to support the cost, I'm going to have to start a business where I sell all the good equipment I get from mobs instead of donating them to new players and my clan. I already have to work in real life. Why should I have to work in the game that I love? Please lower the costs NGD.

+1

[Minorian]

I have a marx, its starting to get ridiculous, Ive had to take 1m from my conj. Arrow Costs need to go down.

[Dark_Barbarian]

yes arrows costs need yo be lowerd i payed 160k for 10000 composite dragon arrows (the best kind in the game) its stupid really and yes NGD should of done this ages ago.

[Kyrottimus]

We all agree that arrows cost too much. That, plus weapon/armor repairs, the prospect of continuing to play an archer is an expensive one.

At least as a warrior one can strip out of their armor and grind for drops to cover repair costs. But for archers you still have to use arrows to grind, which cuts into your bottom line.

To fix the arrow situation, I propose the following:

Reduce arrow weight by 70%
Reduce arrow cost by 80%
Increase arrow drop count from 500 to 1000 a batch
Reduce mob resist/evade rates so less arrows are consumed while grinding

I think this is a good start to reducing the annoyances in one aspect (archers) of RO.

[Cod]

ok i know that could sound stupid but have u tried to buy 50 arrows at time? i noticed that if u buy the arrows all togheter the cost increase a lot while if u buy one "dose" at time the cost will stay not too much high... (at least for me that im 27 :P )

[frank1216]

ok i know that could sound stupid but have u tried to buy 50 arrows at time? i noticed that if u buy the arrows all togheter the cost increase a lot while if u buy one "dose" at time the cost will stay not too much high... (at least for me that im 27 :P )

That is a bug (known I guess...) but you really pay as much as you buy 500 at once or 50 arrows 10 times.

[EppicTrackage]

/me inflates arrow prices in syrtis x100

Anyways... yes, lower arrow costs/more arrow drops. Or lower repair costs would definitely help too.
... on second thought, let's just make everything free! :sifflote:

arrows are the only thing allowed to be under 9000 xD

[Revolverxxx]

ok i know that could sound stupid but have u tried to buy 50 arrows at time? i noticed that if u buy the arrows all togheter the cost increase a lot while if u buy one "dose" at time the cost will stay not too much high... (at least for me that im 27 :P )

ive always done this. had no idea it was a visual bug tho. it doesnt take too long to double click and hit enter so its all good

[traverse]

Initiation arrows are dirt cheap and sufficient for grinding and fort doors... A clan bank can easily hold a few million of them so you don't have to keep running back to the initiation zone.

Just remember to switch back to good ones when you're shooting players.

[RaPiDz]

Initiation arrows are dirt cheap and sufficient for grinding and fort doors... A clan bank can easily hold a few million of them so you don't have to keep running back to the initiation zone.

Just remember to switch back to good ones when you're shooting players.

Why should Marks have to use low lvl arrows to grind when all other classes have an alternate method of dealing damage with equopment equivelent to their lvls. You dont see a barb runing around with a lvl 12 weapon beacuse he cant afford to use his great claym or ect. I think init arrows are a sad excuse not to fix this problem.
+1 to lowering costs or uping mob drops :ignis:

[Mellion]

+1 i am running out of gold soon with both archers.

[Angel_de_Combate]

+1 aswell. Its bad enough we have to pay for repair costs and to pay for arrows on top makes the total cost, well it is adding insult to injury. Most high lvl archers i know have to grind for drops, to sell for gold...to pay for arrows.:rale:

[Pizdzius]

If you want to grind and not use 1 gold coin at all.... do the following

1) take off your armor
2) begin combat at max range
3) use only attack skills
4) press and hold S to walk back out of enemy range
5) conserve mana by pressing <ctrl> as soon as skill is cast
6) move on to next target
7) If you use shortbow and dual shot you can basically have infinate mana
8) work in groups with this method for fast high GRP xp.

Goodluck

p.s. Arrows and darts on other games I play no matter what level they are are 1 gold per arrow, but you cant buy or use arrows that are higher than your level


It's kinda ruining the FUN in the game.

+1 from me, arrow cost is srs business.

[j4np0l]

+1
Arrow cost should be lower/Mobs should drop MUCH more arrows (kinda like Diablo 2 ;))

Or....:lighten:

Grind a conj, they get rich (or die trying? xD) in no time. I use my conj as my personal bank :D

[Jacque_Phrost]

I'm in! Lower the cost of arrows! Mages are rich, and archers are dirt poor!

[TehCurt]

grinding the whole way to 50 i used same lvl arrows and when i reached 50 i had 2 mill + on my char... i dont understand the whole lower arrow cost.... tho there should be lvl 50 arrows that are free XD... cuz well who wants to grind after grinsing for almost 6 mill xp....

[alienthree3]

Arrow cost is ridiculously high and add repair costs for high level gear. Yes, please lower the cost.

[metsie]

arrows + repairs costs too much indeed. I had about 2.2millions when I got my marks to lvl50, now I have 1.1m left after about 2-3months.

I spend gold only to repairs/arrows.

And because droprate sucks, I will be broke eventually :P

I grind maybe 30min -2½ hours / day but cant get gold with that because I get maybe 5 drops/week :O

I really dont understand how drop system works, once I got 40+ nonspecs drops in 2-3hours with my lock, but after that weird drop episode it's 1 drop / day if im lucky :play_ball:

[Myxir]

NGD said they wanted to lower arrow costs after the combat system update. Double attack speed = double arrow costs.

I can't play my hunter without a mage grinding for gold.

[Topogigio_BR]

Please lower arrows cost.

[Inkster]

Either lower the cost of arrows or increase the amount of gold obtained from mobs

[Anyriand]

+1 :clapclap:

Arrows are just too expensive, either lower the cost or make mobs drop them more often.

[Revolverxxx]

grinding the whole way to 50 i used same lvl arrows and when i reached 50 i had 2 mill + on my char... i dont understand the whole lower arrow cost.... tho there should be lvl 50 arrows that are free XD... cuz well who wants to grind after grinsing for almost 6 mill xp....

Hey thats actually an awesome idea. most lvl 50's dont grind (i cant grind in my war setup -.-) therefore they dont have a steady income so why not make those arrows free. its not like the npc's have families to feed or anything. it can be sort of a reward for reaching lvl50.

if not make a premium item like repair hammers that gives you unlimited arrows for a certain amount of time (eg, 30 days, 2 weeks, 1 week etc).