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icemagus
02-07-2010, 02:41 PM
hi its icemagus i need a few tips on how to defeat alsius and syrtis hunters on my level 41 conj any one have any ideas? :swordfight::viking::punk::what:

HuntShot
02-07-2010, 06:53 PM
a Conj killing a hunter?

Do you mean fully supported setup or?
cuss I think it's pretty hard to defeat a hunter if your setup isn't warju(That doesn't means that I love warju's , I hate them!:D)

Linuxmage
02-09-2010, 09:14 AM
I think you'll find it very difficult.

See, your not just fighting the hunter, your fighting his pet as well. If he's a level 50, with a Giant Troll pet, you're as good as dead. He can uncamo behind you, then throw his pet into attack you, whilst firing on you from behind the pet. The chances of you getting a single good hit in? virtually none.

Nylanne
02-09-2010, 08:21 PM
hi its icemagus i need a few tips on how to defeat alsius and syrtis hunters on my level 41 conj any one have any ideas? :swordfight::viking::punk::what:

The answer to your question is simple. A Conju with a support setup should never be alone (a Conju with a war setup shouldn't be in wz, period).
Suck life from the pet, give that life to your friends. In the case you are being targetted, spawn sanctuary and sit down to recover mana. Let hunter grab another target.

Other than that, being killed by a grossly overpowered Hunter class is nothing new. They run around with:

1. Confuse - by far the most potent skill of its type in the game. It basicly spells certain death to anything it hits, specially a Conju.
2. 3 speed-enhancing skills
3. camo that can barely be cancelled, ngd never fixed that - camo should cancel upon any successful hit
4. range
5. a grossly overpowered pet that gets whatever spells the hunter buffs himself with
6. ambush that can't be blocked
7. detects enemy at great distances
8. Son of the Wind (a Godspell, super speed + sanctuary)

Even an idiot can win with a hunter.
Its been that way for ages and NGD has repeatedly nurfed other classes. Basicly, a hunter 50 is God, nothing less. Some hunters suggest they were nurfed too, well, thats hogwash crap. Hunters were superior then - they are Gods now.
Still have doubt? Which one of the top 8 items in that list would you like to have on you? Hunter has them ALL and then some.

So do as many do, make a hunter along your Conju. Know your enemy.

Nylann

Inkster
02-09-2010, 08:41 PM
ummmm

No, i play in alsius (besides you play a supporting role NOT a fighting role)

monktbd
02-10-2010, 03:18 PM
The answer to your question is simple. A Conju with a support setup should never be alone (a Conju with a war setup shouldn't be in wz, period).
Suck life from the pet, give that life to your friends.
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8. Son of the Wind (a Godspell, super speed + sanctuary)


A conju can suck life and give that then to allies?
Oh wait maybe you meant a lock can suck life and give that then to allies?

SOTW is a sanctuary?

man that last update must have really changed things... xD

edit: i agree though that hunters have too many good tools in a 1vs1.

Hamster_of_sorrow
02-10-2010, 03:24 PM
a conju killing a hunter? ooohh, thats a tough one, you will need to be in a warju setup for sure. my conju is only lvl 19 so i cant help as far as spells go, but for a conju, killing anything is gonna be tough without a fill warju setup.

quick side note, dont be hating on warjus, just because they choose to play a class differently thatn you would like doesnt mean that they are bad.

n4gh4sh
02-14-2010, 07:44 PM
A good playing hunter can always kill a conju 1vs1, but a good playing warju/mixju is able to kill an average playing hunter.

Gawyn_Trakkand
02-14-2010, 08:38 PM
hmm... this is a toughie. If a hunter puts confuse on you, you're pretty much dead.

however if you are in a grind setup and havent been confused there is a few things you can do. SS 5 massive reduction on dmg to the point the hunter will hit you for 20 dmg ensnare about 100 and the pet doing little over that. DI your pet this will stop your zarkitt being Dist shot, ambush and thus made useless for a period of time. if using mental DO NOT waste mana on spells if the hunter is under sotw wait for it to run out then debuff the hell out of him. If using SM then just keep letting your norms get him if the hunter is of average playing skill you'll see him off in no time. use sanct as a last resort as it will remove your kitt all your buffs everything.

If you are a full support conj you shouldn't be on your own in that case SS and buff/heal/DI the crap out of your partner.

I hope these tips help ^^

Revolverxxx
02-22-2010, 10:09 AM
a conjurer in a fighting setup can really own a hunter no prob and im speaking from experience as a hunter and our magic defence really sucks. ive seen zarkits hit +450 on me. combine that with the ivy and whatever cc's and damage skills mages have and they deadly. even when confused and knocked down, zarkit is taking huge chunks of hp away and sotw doesnt help. my advice is, if you not in war setup or in a party, dont run around the wz. support conjurers are useless if they dont have anyone to support.

King_Of_Angmar
02-23-2010, 02:22 AM
a conjurer in a fighting setup can really own a hunter no prob and im speaking from experience as a hunter and our magic defence really sucks. ive seen zarkits hit +450 on me. combine that with the ivy and whatever cc's and damage skills mages have and they deadly. even when confused and knocked down, zarkit is taking huge chunks of hp away and sotw doesnt help. my advice is, if you not in war setup or in a party, dont run around the wz. support conjurers are useless if they dont have anyone to support.

That is why you kill their zarkit.


For tips on killing hunters as a conj/warj ask immune :P i don't think i've ever won a solo encounter with him, even out of camo.

blood-raven
02-23-2010, 07:41 PM
well as a conj, always put ur energy barrier on at all times in the warzone, also use pricky ivi and beetle swarm, zarkit and self heal spels that kind of stuff, btw a hunter needs confuse cause they realy suck at fort battles so let them have there own game in pvp.

grtz

Revolverxxx
02-24-2010, 07:41 AM
well as a conj, always put ur energy barrier on at all times in the warzone, also use pricky ivi and beetle swarm, zarkit and self heal spels that kind of stuff, btw a hunter needs confuse cause they realy suck at fort battles so let them have there own game in pvp.

grtz

confuse is more for hunting, theres more likely to be more than one conjurer at a fort war so i dont bother including confuse in my setup.

DemonMonger
02-25-2010, 04:21 PM
confuse is more for hunting, theres more likely to be more than one conjurer at a fort war so i dont bother including confuse in my setup.

I dont use confuse with my huner either...

Back to topic... If you want to kill a hunter with your lvl 41 conjurer you will need the following..

summons 19 , healing 19, mana control 15 (at least) + another conjurer to havedivine intervention on you...

When the hunter first begins his attack make your zarkit attack his pet and (run) .. (if you were pre buffed and about the same level as the hunter you will survive) (if you run to a bridge at the corner his pet will fall through the bridge and drown +1)

next find the nearest tree and recover your life... all hunter skills take ages to cast now and you can side sstep them from behind the tree (regenerate life and mana) most likely the hunter will run away.... the same is true about hunter basic shots... if you move behind an object as the hunter begins to target you he will pull the bow and not be able to fire...

Send your zarkit after him and laugh..... (ivy skill and will domain are also useful vs hunter if you can time the skills properly in between his son of wind and lowprofile)