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cokolwiek
04-17-2010, 09:54 AM
ok we all Know whats the problem with Mind Squasher
i works always or never and ist not fair that some ppl heve a 100%
whit it and some 25% or 0%

so here is my suggestion

make ms a 100% success spell
but only for one radom buff
and increase cd to 25

i think its better to have a 100% chance
debuff one spell then 75% to fail
and lose 200 mana

and pls dont say things like:

"if ms gone by changed warriors will go for
swords"

thats not true blunt tree has far more to offer then just ms

Crushing
Strong blow that breaks bones.
Type: Constant
Duration: 30.0 secs
Cost: 206 mana
Cooldown: 60.0 secs
Attack damage +100%
Constitution -15

Jaw Breaker
A blow to the jaw makes the opponent dizzy.
Type: Constant
Duration: 15.0 secs
Cost: 320 mana
Cooldown: 25.0 secs
Casting: 1.0 secs
Attack damage +100%
Dizzy

Thunder Strike
The warrior strikes the floor with his weapon, making it tremble and affecting the surrounding area.
Type: Constant
Duration: 12.0 secs
Area: 6.0
Cost: 500 mana
Cooldown: 180.0 secs
Casting: 2.5 secs
Stun
Weapon damage +100%

+ blut weapons do the most normal dam especaly if you play barbar

-ltl-
04-17-2010, 10:07 AM
The other skills are too expensive and their effect isn't as good as the MS one

UmarilsStillHere
04-17-2010, 10:59 AM
Crushing is decent but not all that great

Jaw breaker costs far to much and has casting time

Thunderstrike isnt as good as Typhoon (slashing area)

Other than MS, slash tree's powers are better in pretty much every way.

Although blunt hits tend to be higher than slashing hits they also tend to be slower and Beast attack (the only %% attack for blunt users ;_; ) Is more costly, generaly lower hitting, and with a far longer CD, than South Cross, as well as being in a whole other tree.

MS is fine as it is. When you use it you flip a coin on 200 mana, sure you get +100% wep damage anyway but thats almost always less than a normal hit for whatever reasons ... yesterday my MS worked I think once in 7 trys, and a level 3 MS worked on me, somedays MS works nearly every time, I still think its fine.

ncvr
04-17-2010, 12:18 PM
+ blut weapons do the most normal dam especaly if you play barbar
The lvl 50 spear does 25 more dmg than the lvl 50 hammer, both storebought, both v.slow. This is a big difference. Plus, no class relies on just one buff. All classes rely on multiple buffs, particularly other barbs.

Also, I have a better idea. Why don't NGD just fix the damn spell?

Klutu
04-17-2010, 12:30 PM
MS is fine

though i personally think MS should be popped into the tactics tree :p

Blunt Users just tend to Spam MS - buffed or unbuffed

UmarilsStillHere
04-17-2010, 01:25 PM
Blunters Spam MS, Slashers spam SC :p If nothing else it shows our lack of other spells worth using ^^

Anyway, someone needs to deal with Ao1, SS, Over-buffed barbs etc. And since most knights use warlord axes nowadays it seems to fall to barbs to do it more often than not :)

Klutu
04-17-2010, 01:51 PM
Blunters Spam MS, Slashers spam SC :p If nothing else it shows our lack of other spells worth using ^^

Anyway, someone needs to deal with Ao1, SS, Over-buffed barbs etc. And since most knights use warlord axes nowadays it seems to fall to barbs to do it more often than not :)

im trying blunt atm :P nice normals and ofc ms :p but i can't stand the very slow phantom swings are more visible with blunt

cokolwiek
04-17-2010, 02:02 PM
Blunters Spam MS, Slashers spam SC :p If nothing else it shows our lack of other spells worth using ^^

Anyway, someone needs to deal with Ao1, SS, Over-buffed barbs etc. And since most knights use warlord axes nowadays it seems to fall to barbs to do it more often than not :)

Knights are NOT ment to be easy to kill
and Barbars ARE ment to do super dam

if a babar is uneble to kill a knight befor he casts ao1 its his problem
barbar have enough tools to do that

MS is fine

though i personally think MS should be popped into the tactics tree :p

Blunt Users just tend to Spam MS - buffed or unbuffed

pls no more reasons for babars to use tatcticks

Klutu
04-17-2010, 02:12 PM
pls no more reasons for babars to use tatcticks

why?

more a barb uses tactics the less damage he does meaning good news for you :p

UmarilsStillHere
04-17-2010, 02:16 PM
if a babar is uneble to kill a knight befor he casts ao1 its his problem barbar have enough tools to do that

Sorry whats this tool barbs have to stop a knight casting army when hes 40m away, I seem to have missed that one ^^

I do win vs knights one to one more often than not, simply because its easier for a barb to kill a knight than a knight to kill a barb, the knight must land a lot more hits.

cokolwiek
04-18-2010, 07:10 AM
only noobs use their strongest spell right before a barbar can even hit them
so dont put all knights at the same lvl

why?

more a barb uses tactics the less damage he does meaning good news for you :p

yeah i shoud be...
surprise im NOT!

becose i know the reason.
barbars use tacticks not becose they want
its becose they simply must
becose ist so FUCKING hard to hit a target when plaing a mele class
and thats not how things shoud be

NotScias
04-18-2010, 10:27 AM
becose ist so FUCKING hard to hit a target when plaing a mele class

Is it also "FUCKING hard" for you to write correctly ?
Looks like...

On topic :
Even being a very very very annoying spell, MS is fine for me.

UmarilsStillHere
04-18-2010, 03:13 PM
Is it also "FUCKING hard" for you to write correctly ?


+1

MS is fine, get over it.

cokolwiek
04-18-2010, 03:44 PM
+1

MS is fine, get over it.

ok same as warjuners, hunters, phantom hits, posicion bags ,save gang bang,
and all other game play problems

VandaMan
04-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Yeah man, I hate those posicion bags.

UmarilsStillHere
04-18-2010, 04:17 PM
ok same as warjuners, hunters, phantom hits, posicion bags ,save gang bang,
and all other game play problems

A change to MS which isnt needed (or wanted by pretty much anyone but you it would seem) vs all other game problems? Yeah that works out about the same...

Your Idea is a dud, forget about it and move on.

(Why is this in the Inn? xD)