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HuntShot
06-05-2010, 01:37 PM
I was wondering,
Whats the best Race in Ignis for a Barb.

Like at Alsius if you have a dwarf, he does more damage then an Uthgar and Nordo, but then again an Uthgar has more Mana.

I prefer Damage, could someone help me with telling me if Dark Elf or Molok or Esquelio, is better.

UmarilsStillHere
06-05-2010, 01:40 PM
High Str/Const is proabably the best combo on warrior, though some prefer a good Int for more mana.

I dont know much of the stats in Ignis but I think I heard Molock has high starting Str/Const?

HuntShot
06-05-2010, 01:43 PM
as I see you have a lvl 50 Barb uma, could you tell me what you would prefer? what do you think would be more useful? Mana,Hp or damage I think HP falls off cuss well ima barb not a knight.... should I choose molok with +5 Strength or Molok with +2 const abd +3 strength or....

UmarilsStillHere
06-05-2010, 01:56 PM
Honestly I dont think those starting 5 points make a whole world of differance, but I use Const.

In its nerfed state 5 Str isnt all that much, neither is 5 Const but I prefer a certainty to my stats.

5 Const gives me the same ammount of HP every time I log in.

5 Str on the other hand gives 15~ damage per hit on a very slow wep, when your dealing several hundred damage which varies heavily based on target armour/buffs you wont notice +5 Str at all.

Mattdoesrock
06-05-2010, 02:24 PM
Esquelio, definatly.

More HP, more mana.

Moloks have 5 more Str, but that counts for NOTHING these days.

Goudico
06-05-2010, 02:31 PM
the best on str is dark elf if i remember, and looks cool :P
molok is more balanced on str/const and esq is the best choise if you wanna play klutu style barb.... he have a lot of hp ( around 4200-4300 on lvl 50 ) but less dmg so you will need good sword to spamimg sc for good dmg, my molok have 3780 hp i think but 1k isnt problem for him by normals ( with avarage equip, no over power .... ).
For highest str is dark elf the best choise he have +5 more then molok on start...

Mattdoesrock
06-05-2010, 02:39 PM
What? I have 83 Strength at level 50, and I do 1k+ normals easy as pie, all you need is your buffs for that.

I'd much rather have my current 4305 hp + 1555 mana than 100+ Str.

Goudico
06-05-2010, 02:44 PM
if you deal 1k dmg to buffed barb ( caution 4 and frenzy 5 ) you must have nice weapon....
Grats

Mattdoesrock
06-05-2010, 03:06 PM
My main weapon is only special, without any gems.

Seriously, all you need is TFB 5, Magni 5 and Beserk 5 to do serious damage to anything.

lala110593
06-05-2010, 03:18 PM
My main weapon is only special, without any gems.

Seriously, all you need is TFB 5, Magni 5 and Beserk 5 to do serious damage to anything.

This is true, i made a dark elf barb because of the mana/str but since the str nerf, it has become useless and const is the only stat that matters. I only use 90 str on my barb and i get 1.4k+ normals with my hammer (its a good wep but still, low str). I regret not having an esquilo barb and sometimes i wana go back and start a new one, but i used stat scroll and changed to +5 const and have over 4k hp, which i cannot tell you how many times i have survived thnx to that extra 112 hp, and how many times i've managed to kill that extra person because of the hp, go for esquilo and chose const, it might be a little harder to grind at the beginning but the end result will be much better.

-glulose

Goudico
06-05-2010, 03:19 PM
well this thread isnt about teach me how play as barb ( my first char )....

solution is in my first trhead :

start stats ( no use 5 points )

skelic ( esquelino ) : str 25, const 30, conc 20, int 25, dex 20
molok : str 30, const 25, conc 20, int 20, dex 25
dark elf : str 30, const 25, conc 25, int 20, dex 20

Best choise for ME! is dark elf with 5 points in const....


For Matt:
Its only my opinion, dont comment it and make yours if you want....

HuntShot
06-05-2010, 03:31 PM
Wow! thanks guys, you really helped me alot!!

I made my decission now, ill continue my Uthgar Barb which has +3 strength and +2 constitution which I regreth now, why didnt I just do +5 const well maybe ill change it on a later level.

Again thanks all! =D I gave Uma and Matt +1 ill now wait till tomorrow to give lala and goudic +1 too you only can give karma twice a day :)

Pwnography
06-05-2010, 06:01 PM
4305 hp + 1555 mana

YEAH 4451 HP BITCH!....and..erm..1315 mana >.>

Mattdoesrock
06-05-2010, 08:42 PM
You have a dragon Ammy, you don't count. :P

With it I'd have 4555 hp. ;)

Minorian
06-06-2010, 12:07 AM
Whithout buffs my lvl 42 knights health is something like 3800 :)

Arafails
06-06-2010, 01:55 AM
Yeah, well. 1600 mana!!!

...and 3732 health....

In all seriousness though, go for const. So many fights I could've won if I'd survived for just one more hit....

UmarilsStillHere
06-06-2010, 11:34 AM
Since we're comparing.

4062 hp/1420 mana here with Medal of Courage and Vesper Helm.

85 const, 94 Str, and 50 Int, Half Elf with points in Const and Eve Hammer/Vesp Pauldrons.

Pwnography
06-06-2010, 12:55 PM
Since we're comparing.

4062 hp/1420 mana here with Medal of Courage and Vesper Helm.

85 const, 94 Str, and 50 Int, Half Elf with points in Const and Eve Hammer/Vesp Pauldrons.

95 const :S

and matt u must have lots of hp items? :P

UmarilsStillHere
06-06-2010, 01:09 PM
Yeah I have no Hp/Const armour >.<

Though Half-Elf is the highest const starter race for warriors in Syrtis.

Mattdoesrock
06-06-2010, 02:00 PM
96 const - 4 const helmet, 7 const pauldrons, 145hp BP = 4305 hp or 4615 if I was Syrtian. Realm balance ftw.

All my armour is "pre" special, I have no magic or epic anything. ^^

Goudico
06-06-2010, 03:46 PM
100 constitution = 4250 HP for warrior ( well i think knight and barb have same hp per const )
so its 42.5 per one point in const ....

Mattdoesrock
06-06-2010, 03:54 PM
LOL.

No. 1 point of Const = 22.5 hp.

This is how it works.

Warriors have an absolute BASE hp of 2000 at level 50. This does not change. Ever.

Then they have their const added on. As 1 point of const = 22.5hp (we'll use my barb in this example) I have 85 base const, so; 85 x 22.5 = 1912.5

1912.5 + 2000 = 3912.5 <-- This is now my BASE hp.

Now add (from my armour) 90 hp (4 const) + 145 hp + 157.5 hp (7 const) = 392.5

3912.5 + 392.5 = 4305 <-- My total hp.



This lesson was brought to you by MattdoesMaths industries. (c)


P.S. Note how I do not add in any hp from jewellery... Ignis FTW. ¬¬

Goudico
06-06-2010, 04:00 PM
ok i only see my hp :P and my const....
Its logical..... what you was said

I dont care about this counts i only play game for fun...

Ty I will know that next time....

But still works with 100 const you will have 4250 HP! Because I see it in HP bar :P

Klutu
06-06-2010, 10:42 PM
4135(?) hp 1630mana

90 const 83 str 55 int

Mikan
06-07-2010, 10:25 AM
Constitution for me, giving me 4269 HP - it would be 4381 HP but I chose the wrong race. :smile:

But who plays a Barbarian these days, anyway?

Pwnography
06-07-2010, 12:47 PM
Constitution for me, giving me 4269 HP - it would be 4381 HP but I chose the wrong race. :smile:

But who plays a Barbarian these days, anyway?

Badasses...

Shwish
06-07-2010, 01:06 PM
Badasses...

People who'se asses are bad?

Saltor
06-07-2010, 02:43 PM
People who'se asses are bad?

Have you SEEN Klutu's donkey? A very naughty thing it is too.

;)

Shwish
06-07-2010, 02:46 PM
Have you SEEN Klutu's donkey? A very naughty thing it is too.

;)

lol, that explains why alasthor's so desperate to eat him up