Why Ignis not have three Wizards?

[Milena757]

You know the story of why the birth of our beloved kingdom, Ignis ...
Supposedly our elves began to play with the magic of negromancia, and we kicked him in the tuje ...
The imbalance arises from the start.

As everybody says, Alsius, fearful and ruthless warriors, Syrtis, successful and talented archers, Ignis ... Ignis, well ... stayed there, because our advantage should be magic, but it is not. NGD thought so, but agreed that it did not devote some time to think.

The problem is that we are at a disadvantage.
You see in these images that the benefits of Alsius and Syrtis are correct, but not those of Ignis.

Alsius
Warriors
http://img713.imageshack.us/i/guerreroa.jpg/
Wizards
http://img64.imageshack.us/f/magoah.jpg/
Archers
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/arqueroa.jpg/



Syrtis
Archers
http://img827.imageshack.us/i/arqueros.jpg/
Wizards
http://img826.imageshack.us/i/magos.jpg/
Warriors
http://img810.imageshack.us/i/guerreros.jpg/



Ignis
Wizards
http://img409.imageshack.us/i/magoi.jpg/
Warriors
http://img707.imageshack.us/i/guerreroi.jpg/
Archers
http://img266.imageshack.us/i/arqueroi.jpg/

WTF?! Do we also warriors instead of three possibilities for magicians?

[Minorian]

We're gimped, and its because NGD hates Ignis :biggrin: Just look, we have the worst leveling quests, worst quest gear (try finding stuff for a conju/hunter/knight/lock) our cities are quite spaced apart, we have those freaking sandstorms, daen rhas dropping seems to be bugged, and when Ignis is under populated, they slow down on the realm balancing efforts. And, our races are the worst (good thing attributes dont really mean anything xD)

Yup, Ignis has it all :superpusso:

[AntibioTsu]

And, our races are the worst (good thing attributes dont really mean anything xD)

Yup, Ignis has it all :superpusso:

Excuse me?

You have the best mages --> Esquelios, 30 Int, 25 const;

You have the best barbarians --> Moloks or Dark Elves 30 str, 25 const both;

You have the best knights --> Esquelios, 30 const, 25 Int and str;

You have acceptable archers --> Esquelios if you dont give a crap about Dex or Moloks if you dont mind the screwed points on Str.

I'm sorry, but Syrtis owns 1st place on the "crappy race stats" ranking.

The only thing I agree with are Dark Elf mage, which is utterly bs. Maybe NGD will fix Concentration on next balance issue.

[Minorian]

Excuse me?

You have the best mages --> Esquelios, 30 Int, 25 const;
Id take the Alsius human mage, 30 int 30 conc (supposedly effects spell chance)
You have the best barbarians --> Moloks or Dark Elves 30 str, 25 const both;
Id take dwarf at 30 str 30 const
You have the best knights --> Esquelios, 30 const, 25 Int and str;
Ugthars are the same, but id go for dwarf again
You have acceptable archers --> Esquelios if you dont give a crap about Dex or Moloks if you dont mind the screwed points on Str.
acceptable I guess, but still not great
I'm sorry, but Syrtis owns 1st place on the "crappy race stats" ranking.

The only thing I agree with are Dark Elf mage, which is utterly bs. Maybe NGD will fix Concentration on next balance issue.

Im not actually sure about all of Syrtis' starting stats, But I heard that Wood elves make great archers, half elf make acceptable warriors, and humans make good mages. Maybe Im wrong.

[Signatus]

The first one suggesting to make Moloks magicians will get my spear stuck up their f?!%ing ar$#$...

MOLOK PRIDE!!!

[VandaMan]

You should allow moloks to choose the mage class.

[Gawyn_Trakkand]

Im not actually sure about all of Syrtis' starting stats, But I heard that Wood elves make great archers, half elf make acceptable warriors, and humans make good mages. Maybe Im wrong.

you just listed that alsius has better mages (i disagree with this only utghars are as good as dark elves) and warriors not that Ignis has the worst.

[LupeFiasco]

er dude tsu lol look @ als mages utghar 30 int, 25 const, 25 concentration sounds better than esquil. mages to me :P

also we don't have the best warriors either, alsius does the dwarfs are 30 str, 30 const

i still don't really get this topic though xD

[Milena757]

It is an imbalance at the kingdom.
Ignis should be able to choose the three magi.

The game was designed well. What Syrtis are experts in Arqueros, Alsius warriors specialists and specialists Ignis Magi ...
The Alturian, Esquelios and Nord are who should be more distributed (and balanced) with points, or 25 25 25 25 and 20, but not ... Why?

The game's story says that, that each kingdom has its "advantage" for that kind of characters.
I think this is wrong.
If they try to balance the game so there is no imbalance between the subclasses, the error is before.
The imbalance is the kingdom.
The story of Regnum said that the dark elves are in contact with the magic, then why would a Nord has 30 intelligence and 30 concentration? It is better magician who should have the advantage to being wizards, dark elves.

Is that clear?

Humans were thought as the kingdoms aid .. and should not be possible for a character "Nord" is better and with more capacity to the magic that the Dark Elf (who were vested with the privilege of magic)

[mariqri]

You should allow moloks to choose the mage class.


haha how do you think it would look
just imagine an uthgar (the goat) with bow
its the same thing like molok with staff

[IgnisGlomp]

Humans were thought as the kingdoms aid .. and should not be possible for a character "Nord" is better and with more capacity to the magic that the Dark Elf (who were vested with the privilege of magic)

I agree. Humans shouldn't really be 'the best' at anything.

[Mattdoesrock]

We're gimped, and its because NGD hates Ignis :biggrin: Just look, we have the worst leveling quests, worst quest gear (try finding stuff for a conju/hunter/knight/lock) our cities are quite spaced apart, we have those freaking sandstorms, daen rhas dropping seems to be bugged, and when Ignis is under populated, they slow down on the realm balancing efforts. And, our races are the worst (good thing attributes dont really mean anything xD)

Yup, Ignis has it all :superpusso:

You really have no idea how boring it is to listen you bitch and moan about poor, poor Ignis in every single topic.

[AntibioTsu]

er dude tsu lol look @ als mages utghar 30 int, 25 const, 25 concentration sounds better than esquil. mages to me :P


hmm dude fiasco ^^. Esquelio mages start with 30 Int, 25 Const, 25 Conc, 20 Dex and 20 Str --> exactly the same as Utghars just smaller, therefore harder to click ;). http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Esquelios

Syrtis has "the best" archers because either Elf or Half-Elf have 30 Dex (25 Int for Eves, 25 Const for Half-Elves).

Our mages suck: Alturians are just like Dark Elves and Wood Elves have 30 Int, 25 Conc, 25 Dex (oh so great evade chance), 5 wasted points;

Our warriors can choose Alturian, 30 Str, 25 Const or Half-Elf, 30 Const, 25 Str, 25 Dex (again, wasted points on Dex).

So yeah, our archer heritage sucks... Legolas FTL :p

[Signatus]

You should allow moloks to choose the mage class.

Van, we'll talk later... you need lube? :devil:


The game's story says that, that each kingdom has its "advantage" for that kind of characters.

It also says that Moloks are the original inhabitants of the sand sea, that they fought the evil magic of the Igneos since the dawn of ages, and that they despise it for the pain and loss it has caused them (or at least that's what it should say :superpusso:).

Why the hell do we need a 3rd mage race? Honestly, what kind of balance would it be, and storywise, what kind of plot would explain that a fearless barbaric culture would adopt such petty tricks?

The Ignis side is renown for their mages because Sultar invented his "Sultar Terror", but the Syrtis hunters stole it and the Alsius Uthgars asked a loan from the Dwarves and bought that knowledge on the black market! Everyone knows that!

[UmarilsStillHere]

Do you really need another one? Is it really a big balance issue? I mean come on, sure Syrtis has 3 archers, but Alturians are pretty sucky at it, do you need a sucky 3rd one?

Anyway, +/-5 points here on 1 or 2 stats isnt going to sway a war.

[ieti]

Uma is right me and many more choosed race not by points, because when you start a game you do not know what stat really do, but by looks. That way i ended on a conju with Alturian which is not the best choice, but had no pointy ears. I really love my conju and do not care of initial stats. You can cope that differences by getting good gear anyway - now my conju have 3.2k HP and 1.9k Mana(Pool level 1) which is pretty good for a mage. Yes my warlock is better with better stats, but i hate the pointy ears. In fact Alturians are smaller than gelfs too which is a nice plus.

IF Alsius get a dwarf mage i will make one instantly. It will be cute and stelt in the melee what more you want. :bangin:

[ncvr]

Technically speaking, Alsius have the best warriors, Syrtis have the best archers and Ignis have the best mages which is appropriate.

But who the fuck cares? It's a 5 point difference. That's, what, 10 dmg? 45 mana?

Play the race and realm you enjoy more, for the looks or for whatever. If you have to min/max every aspect of your gameplay and end up with a race you don't enjoy, grinding is going to be more boring and slower and you won't have the same amount of motivation when you RvR.

[bois]

I play Molok Knight. Challenging to play and I like it so. The 5 points went in Constitution which did not help too much. Does not matter. I am still irritating in fort wars.

I look forward to the ability to have access to all the jewellery in the game.
I think everyone should look forward to that with relish. It will give you the opportunity to fiddle with your respective builds.

As for Ignis being tough. It is a desert folks, you don't expect it to be a walk in the park do you? I have to walk with a tin of WD-40 every time I go out there.

Artec

[Pwnography]

This thread makes me want to bang my head off the wall.........

[VandaMan]

Van, we'll talk later... you need lube? :devil:

No sir! I'm very experienced in this regard.

[Llayne]

I miss my ring if lightings.

Poor Ignis? Really?

I only lose to other barbs when they use those rings, that and when i been hacked. Facts.

[Topogigio_BR]

I saw ppl blaming the race of other realms but no1 here says nothing about alsians archers.
Unlike all other races in all realms are the ones that cant have 30 points in your base attributes.

Ignis and syrtis has at least a race that has 30 in base attribute, warrior, mage or archer, only alsians archers dont have 30 in dex, this is what i call an imbalance.
The thread was started to have more options of mages for ignis, i just want one option of archer with 30 dex in base attribute.

[tjanex]

I want mage dwarf... It would just be cool be a dwarf no-one can see you and suddenly you do sultar :P

[Creror]

I want mage dwarf... It would just be cool be a dwarf no-one can see you and suddenly you do sultar :P

Oh noez, please no "Dimitri" in Regnum ...

http://www.wowszene.de/files/dimitri_small.jpg

It enough that he's haunting Allimania. :D

[Emnesty]

Moloks wizards... Great :p

The races are ok, i thought about this, and it doesn't matters. (I think)

[ncvr]

Oh noez, please no "Dimitri" in Regnum ...

http://www.wowszene.de/files/dimitri_small.jpg

It enough that he's haunting Allimania. :D
That's a gnome.

[Yogi]

We're gimped, and its because NGD hates Ignis :biggrin: Just look, we have the worst leveling quests, worst quest gear (try finding stuff for a conju/hunter/knight/lock) our cities are quite spaced apart, we have those freaking sandstorms, daen rhas dropping seems to be bugged, and when Ignis is under populated, they slow down on the realm balancing efforts. And, our races are the worst (good thing attributes dont really mean anything xD)

Yup, Ignis has it all :superpusso:

And that's why Ignis has ring of lightning and can have +10% attack speed passive bonus ... And it will help a lot when NGD already killed the normal attack speed on all class ...

No comment ...

I want to turn my nordo mage dwarf mage too :P

[Minorian]

And that's why Ignis has ring of lightning and can have +10% attack speed passive bonus ... And it will help a lot when NGD already killed the normal attack speed on all class ...

No comment ...

I want to turn my nordo mage dwarf mage too :P

First I believe DS rings are 25-35 damage? Please let me know if this is not the case. But for this Ill run on the assumption im correct there.

So, RoL's are 5% as 9-11 damage each. DS rings are 25-35 damage each. So, for the AS on a RoL to catch up to the superior damage of a DS ring, you need to make up 16-24 damage. So, you essentially have a 5% DPS increase from the RoL, which needs to push above the DS ring. to make up the bottom end damage, you would need over 300 damage to make up the min (300*.05=15) and just under 500 damage to make up the max (500*.05=25). So, really, the only people that should chose RoL over DS rings are the barbs and knarbs(I dont know many marksmen/hunters/mages with over 300 damage), otherwise your overall DPS is not increased, but decreased. So that covers the RoL vs. DS misconception (most people think oooooo pretty AS!)

When it comes to alsius with rings, Ignis has you beat. RoL definitely beats the Blacksmith ring, I cant argue against that. So, there Ignis has a upperhand.

Now, amulets. Ignis' best damage amu is a 3(Im pretty sure) fire damage amu. I know Alsius has at least a 8 damage amu. I assume theres something of the same in Syrtis.

Now, what do knights/conjus/real hunters/warlocks that arent interested in normal hit DPS get? For ammus, they get a +30 health ammu, or a +100 mana ammu which is ok, but both other realms have the same. For rings, we have a +1 consti or +1% protect ring. Pathetic. Now, other realms have a +100 health +45 mana ammu, which all my classes would kill for. Also, I heard a rumor (dont hate me if its wrong) that Syrtis has a +145 health +100 mana ammu, but I cant see NGD making that big of a balance blunder. For rings, I understand both realms have a +2(3?) consti ring, another thing I would love.

So, after all that, you can see Syrtis (except barbs) best Ignis in every way in quest jewelry, and Alsius wins on everything but DPS rings.

Although, am I correct in thinking the increased AS of a RoL would decrease your GCD allowing you to buff/cast spells faster? If so, thats another thing going for Ignis, but only a huge deal for barbs, although nice for everyone.

Just had to clear up the RoL misconception, and ranted on from there. I know I bored you ;) So Im sorry :p

Oh, and dont get me going on boss items ^^

[ieti]

Most used in Syrtis are:
- Medal of Courage. 150HP, 5% Resist Blunt. Nearly everyone use this.
- Royal Amulet. 100HP, 45 Mana. Not widely used.
- DS rings. Not so widely used.
- Right of Health. 80HP. Widely used.
- Elite Mage Ring. Not widely used.

Some use Evendim rings, amulets or dragon amulets, but they are pretty rare and very hard to get.

[Pwnography]

First I believe DS rings are 25-35 damage? Please let me know if this is not the case. But for this Ill run on the assumption im correct there.

So, RoL's are 5% as 9-11 damage each. DS rings are 25-35 damage each. So, for the AS on a RoL to catch up to the superior damage of a DS ring, you need to make up 16-24 damage. So, you essentially have a 5% DPS increase from the RoL, which needs to push above the DS ring. to make up the bottom end damage, you would need over 300 damage to make up the min (300*.05=15) and just under 500 damage to make up the max (500*.05=25). So, really, the only people that should chose RoL over DS rings are the barbs and knarbs(I dont know many marksmen/hunters/mages with over 300 damage), otherwise your overall DPS is not increased, but decreased. So that covers the RoL vs. DS misconception (most people think oooooo pretty AS!)

When it comes to alsius with rings, Ignis has you beat. RoL definitely beats the Blacksmith ring, I cant argue against that. So, there Ignis has a upperhand.

Now, amulets. Ignis' best damage amu is a 3(Im pretty sure) fire damage amu. I know Alsius has at least a 8 damage amu. I assume theres something of the same in Syrtis.

Now, what do knights/conjus/real hunters/warlocks that arent interested in normal hit DPS get? For ammus, they get a +30 health ammu, or a +100 mana ammu which is ok, but both other realms have the same. For rings, we have a +1 consti or +1% protect ring. Pathetic. Now, other realms have a +100 health +45 mana ammu, which all my classes would kill for. Also, I heard a rumor (dont hate me if its wrong) that Syrtis has a +145 health +100 mana ammu, but I cant see NGD making that big of a balance blunder. For rings, I understand both realms have a +2(3?) consti ring, another thing I would love.

So, after all that, you can see Syrtis (except barbs) best Ignis in every way in quest jewelry, and Alsius wins on everything but DPS rings.

Although, am I correct in thinking the increased AS of a RoL would decrease your GCD allowing you to buff/cast spells faster? If so, thats another thing going for Ignis, but only a huge deal for barbs, although nice for everyone.

Just had to clear up the RoL misconception, and ranted on from there. I know I bored you ;) So Im sorry :p

Oh, and dont get me going on boss items ^^

DS rings are 15-25 each.