Something strange with armor defence..

[DemonMonger]

I noticed that I have more attack power and more defence then some players, but when we fight (hunter vs hunter) they hit me 200+ damage and I hit them for 15 - 20 damage. We are both lvl 60 as well.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Armor specifications

They wear some tenax and lvl 50 armors - very good vs peirce.

I wear elite armor and 1 part lvl 50 armor - very good vs peirce.

????? I've seen this vs other players in the realm also.


due to this I have been using tear apart and break apart as main attacks.
HELP!

[_Enio_]

Screen your armors and you character stats and post it here?
Or alternatively experiment with this (http://kit.snuggly1.com)
(click on basic mode to toggle advanced mode for more options)

[Gabburtjuh]

Could you post both the bows to?

[PT_DaAr_PT]

The problem comes from the unadjusted protrection bonus of Evasive Tactis + only item level 60 bows for hunters can do decent damage + the enemy could be wearing a dragon ammy or other OP stuff.

[DemonMonger]

Screen your armors and you character stats and post it here?
Or alternatively experiment with this (http://kit.snuggly1.com)
(click on basic mode to toggle advanced mode for more options)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7483/regnumu.jpg

armor stats currently......

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1864/screenshot2011041000270.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2011041000270.jpg/)

bow 1

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8420/screenshot2011041000271.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2011041000271.jpg/)


bow 2

[_Enio_]

armor stats currently......


This looks all fine, you should not get hit by 200s normal hits by other hunters when you use evasive tactics 5 and acrobatics 5 unless they are using cold blood or have cast Sudden Strike on you.

Do you have a recent combat log of such occurrence?

[PT_DaAr_PT]

I completely forgot about this: http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66717

Since at level 60 you have much more armor, it seems to be more noticeable.

[tarashunter]

Mmmmh may be you were testing at samal yesterday....but i was hitting you for 350 normal hit without use cooldblood....
And while i was hitting you for 350 dmg(with magna bow),i was thinking i never hitted so hard.

In my experience,with all gear lvl 49/50 acro4 + evasive 4 on,i have 50/70 dmg from hunters,and 170/250 from marks (in some case i get hitted from some marksman for 300 + dmg even if i'm full buffed,but they are equipped with dragon amulet + magna/daen rha bow together).

[survive]

i had a strange occurance like this, yesterday. I hit a mid 50s archer, who was unbuffed.... same as I, .... he hit me twice for 58 and 56 consecutively, to my unbuffed 52 barb.... i then hit him with a Beast Attack(5), for all of 71 damage.... that is right, ... 71 damage... now i am in no means the hardest hitting barb out there... but with me unbuffed against a buffed target, i seldom if ever, hit a BA(5) below 600 .... maybe in the low 500s occasionally, but NEVER 71 .... i was completely astounded.... thought possiblly Retal(5), but i got no returned damage... all i took was the 58, and 56 damage... and my health was only down ~100 health..... so i have no clue.... maybe relevant.... maybe not.... later and gl out there fkrs xD

[DemonMonger]

i had a strange occurance like this, yesterday. I hit a mid 50s archer, who was unbuffed.... same as I, .... he hit me twice for 58 and 56 consecutively, to my unbuffed 52 barb.... i then hit him with a Beast Attack(5), for all of 71 damage.... that is right, ... 71 damage... now i am in no means the hardest hitting barb out there... but with me unbuffed against a buffed target, i seldom if ever, hit a BA(5) below 600 .... maybe in the low 500s occasionally, but NEVER 71 .... i was completely astounded.... thought possiblly Retal(5), but i got no returned damage... all i took was the 58, and 56 damage... and my health was only down ~100 health..... so i have no clue.... maybe relevant.... maybe not.... later and gl out there fkrs xD

yes.

I have seen this....

I remember when the damage calculation was changed.
It did make all combined damages less than singular damages

example:

80 blunt + 80 peirce + 80 slash would do 20-30 damage total... per tick
but if you cast any kind of armor reduction spell (infuriate, sudden attack)
then the damages raise substantially.

This said, as an archer with
18-22 lightning damage
21-21 slash damage
90-114 peircing damage

my lightning damage becomes an average of
4.32-5.28
my slash becomes an average of
5.04-5.04
and my peircing becomes an average of
21.6-27.36
total damage becomes
30.96-37.68 before damage armor bonus reduction or addition
basic arrow damage added into the calculation should boost the damage by about 15-20 points max

This gives me a sad base damage of less than 45.96-57.68 damage per hit on people my level! wearing armor with an average total of 220 of all combined parts. The damages will be alot less (yes 15 - 30) on people that have high resistance to arrows/lightning/slash.


WEAK!!!!!!!!

Thus said... I will look for all peircing bonus points.

If I had all peircing bonus or less scattered damages my attacks would do.
347.2 on the same person.

:facepalm3: jack of all damages ... master of none...

[-Logan-]

This gives me a sad base damage of less than 45.96-57.68 damage per hit on people my level! wearing armor with an average total of 220 of all combined parts. The damages will be alot less (yes 15 - 30) on people that have high resistance to arrows/lightning/slash.

Use a slow bow. When they increased the protection bonus awhile ago it made quite an impact on low damage weapons from what I saw. Imo, it's better to use a slower weapon with more damage now over a faster weapon with less damage. Less damage gets nullified on heavy weapons. On most of the new armors you will have resistances cut your attacks drastically, this is really noticeable on archers from my observations.

[DemonMonger]

Use a slow bow. When they increased the protection bonus awhile ago it made quite an impact on low damage weapons from what I saw. Imo, it's better to use a slower weapon with more damage now over a faster weapon with less damage. Less damage gets nullified on heavy weapons. On most of the new armors you will have resistances cut your attacks drastically, this is really noticeable on archers from my observations.

we tested the bows....

fast bow vs slow bow same damage.... :play_ball: