View Full Version : WM noble quest causes huge imbalance.
tjanex
04-19-2011, 05:27 AM
We've already noticed the Ignis night crew is able to invade over and over and over again and so they can do the noble quest over and over again. Syrtis and Alsius don't have that ability because Ignis still has many during the day.
Imagine every Ignis night crew becoming Warmaster in no-time, that would cause a HUGE imbalance. Every night 10k Warmaster coins, and Syrtis and Alsius keep getting Warmasters, but on a much slower way.
I really think that the Noble quest should be once a month for example, because if you could do it everyday, it would be Warmasters: Ignis, 100; Alsius, 10; Syrtis 13; something like that, please change this NGD, maybe it works fine in Ra, but you have other servers to take care for. :facepalm3:
Pimousse
04-19-2011, 07:14 AM
Don't you know that Syrtis Horus have at least one WarMaster at the present time, when Ignis none ? (don't know for Alsius).
Your theory seem's biased and wrong ;)
nisse
04-19-2011, 07:33 AM
One thing that should be changed and quite easily changed, is to stop all quests targeting an gemless realm. I'm tired of wanting to invade X when people constantly want to go to gemless Y to finish their quests. That would be proper immunity, plus would increase the invasions a lot and thereby reduce the time a realm stays gemless.
We Ignians are even underpopulated at the moment by the way, or so the exp bonus tells us. Which has been a lot of fun by the way :D since we are now attacked quite regularly instead of having to walk and walk and walk for some action. Not been playing the game for that long. But i have always been so envious of Alsius for getting attacked so much ever since i could participate in the wz, and would have switched to them if i could have.
tjanex
04-19-2011, 10:45 AM
Don't you know that Syrtis Horus have at least one WarMaster at the present time, when Ignis none ? (don't know for Alsius).
Your theory seem's biased and wrong ;)
Maybe because 1). You don't grind enough 2). You just don't know about it?
Pimousse
04-19-2011, 10:57 AM
I was just answering at your wrong assertion, i'm not worried about our warmasters ;)
The assertion of the OP could be correct in theory but is simply not reality.
As said before, Syrtis has at least one warmaster already( or so I have been told). The time has arrived that any fanatic player who fills their 2 quest quota plus the fabric transport quest every day since inception would be a warmaster or very close. This means all realms should be on par at this time.
Ignis, generally does not invade with the sole intention to gain warmaster points via noble quest. Quite often a small assault crew is sent in for the gem. The rest of us care take the battlements. In fact, despite the assertion, only very few Igneans have completed that quest and fewer still completed it twice.
Despite this, we still have no warmasters and only a hand full are very close. These players are close by simply completing the regular quest and not the noble one.
1, not grinding enough. Players have lives and choose to live in the real world other than gaining virtual accolades. This comment is unwarranted.
2, Don't know about it. We all do. Another unwarranted and needless comment.
Both comments attempt to derail your own thread with pointless retorts.
Lastly, Alsius was immune for a very long time. This means that the quest was impossible for a very long time. Syrtis can simply take a gem to make the Alsius immune or raise a counter every time Ignis tries something so they can complete the warmaster quests too. Alsius and Syrtis can even combine to break the Ignis gates. If it closes behind you no problem. Just kill the general and balance things out.
Instead of just complaining of imbalance, formulate counters and offensive strategies so that even if you lose, you win. Think outside the box. So what if you fail multiple times? At least you gain experience to do it better next time.
It is this attitude that has made Ignis taskmasters at invading. We have failed so many times we are veterans and know numerous strategies to make it work.
If I were you, I would concentrate my worry on the imbalances the warmaster spells themselves might pose to general gameplay and class balance rather than the quantum of every realm. But for that, I would wait to see just how this all plays out on the field of play.
Regards
tjanex
04-19-2011, 03:01 PM
1, not grinding enough. Players have lives and choose to live in the real world other than gaining virtual accolades. This comment is unwarranted.
2, Don't know about it. We all do. Another unwarranted and needless comment.
Both comments attempt to derail your own thread with pointless retorts.
That 1st one was not mention to say you have to be ''no-life'', so not quite ''unwarranted'' as you like to say it, and the 2nd was maybe there ARE ignean warmasters but he don't know them/didn't see them yet.
My English isn't as good as yours so just ask what I mean instead of attack me immidiately.
tjanex
04-19-2011, 03:09 PM
Lastly, Alsius was immune for a very long time. This means that the quest was impossible for a very long time. Syrtis can simply take a gem to make the Alsius immune or raise a counter every time Ignis tries something so they can complete the warmaster quests too. Alsius and Syrtis can even combine to break the Ignis gates. If it closes behind you no problem. Just kill the general and balance things out.
Instead of just complaining of imbalance, formulate counters and offensive strategies so that even if you lose, you win. Think outside the box. So what if you fail multiple times? At least you gain experience to do it better next time.
It is this attitude that has made Ignis taskmasters at invading. We have failed so many times we are veterans and know numerous strategies to make it work.
If I were you, I would concentrate my worry on the imbalances the warmaster spells themselves might pose to general gameplay and class balance rather than the quantum of every realm. But for that, I would wait to see just how this all plays out on the field of play.
Regards
I'm not complaining I just plead for this to change and hope NGD does something with this what you say ''complaintement'' and also I don't really think how it is for us to invade you, in the morning there are a lot of Igneans online as well, in the evening even more, in Syrtis in the evening I don't see lots of lvl 50+ in my friendlist. And yes, I also want WM spells to be changed or even removed, Hunters almost lose their mobility to track every zerg down, normally I like hunting and when a big zerg came I called my mates to defend herb, now they just teleport to our forts, how can a Hunter even be senseful now!? I've played my Hunter for 2 almost 2 years, now I give up.
Also the invasion system should be changed in my opinion...
SirHiss
04-21-2011, 04:16 PM
From what ive heard ignis has 5 WM's
esp_tupac
04-22-2011, 02:56 AM
From what ive heard ignis has 5 WM's
yes 4 are in the video below and another one is mitsaras :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnfnBO7eWk
Ignis rulez !
tjanex
04-22-2011, 05:13 AM
Nice to have some prove :D
I hereby invite all Alsius in Fisgael to come kill our noble.
No Ignis allowed.
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