Alsius(horus) is screwed

[ufkn]

Hi,

Will try to keep this informal and less of a rant. The current state of update has ruined Alsius and its morale to the extreme.

1. With the new warmaster dragon wish, the game has put all emphasis on invasions. You open the portal, you get rewarded which is an apt result I suppose. But Alsius can never invade, that's a fact. We simply don't have the people, resources and organization to pull off an invasion even in supposedly other realm's downtime because that would be our downtime as well. So I fear no more warmasters in Alsius for a while.

2. The daily 30/30 quests for being a warmaster is more or less the only hope for potential warmaster wannabes now, and this heavily relies on fort wars. But the current save system has ruined that too. It is a known years old fact that Alsius spends most of its time taking back forts than going on the offensive, simply for the lack of resources to be on the offensive all throughout the day. When the handful of warmasters that we have are on, we can tele to forts to fight, twice or thrice from the gate, but after that most Alsius give up. The old altar gave us an option to repeatedly die but still fight for our quests and the fort in the process. That option is gone now.

3. The new invasion boat system while intended to work or not when a gate goes vulnerable, further has degraded Alsius' morale. We got camped at our own Mont noble yesterday by a zerg of Syrtis and always incoming Ignis, using this boat. Them had a bunch of warmasters and we had 'one'. Many players quit the game seeing no end to it.

As it all stands out now, I see Alsius' morale tumbling down the gutter day after day. I fear the day if and when our handful of warmasters get frustrated and quit RO, that would be the final nail in our coffin.

Lastly, a screenshot for being the favorite punching bags on Horus, gems or no gems.

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/6278/screenshot2011052703142.jpg

Sad to see you like this Alsius :(

-ugly

[v0rt3x]

The invasion boat system is to kill the players of a underpopulated realm inside his own realm, because there can´t fight back at the forts or the castle. So why should the other realms do his Daily Quest without action in the wz? They must go inside the other realm.

The only places, where you can feel safe, during the wz gate is vulnerable, are:

1. Initi. Zone (Enemies can´t go to this)
2. Leave Regnum and log off

Nice work, NGD!

[HuntShot]

The invasion boat system is to kill the players of a underpopulated realm inside his own realm, because there can´t fight back at the forts or the castle. So why should the other realms do his Daily Quest without action in the wz? They must go inside the other realm.
What the F*ck? That's totally not the reason? Stop making this bullshit up please..

The only places, where you can feel safe, during the wz gate is vulnerable, are:

1. Initi. Zone (Enemies can´t go to this)
2. Leave Regnum and log off
Are you serious? Or are you trying to be funny.. either way stop saying useless things.
Nice work, NGD!
Really? Really...?

[Pimousse]

I don't want to troll or something, i know Alsius have hard time ...
But I don't understand you, players of Alsius.

Yesterday, after the update, Ignis took Eferia and Algaros for 20 min. And what did Alsius players ? They captured an empty samal ...
Why ? I can't understand this. You could have tried to take Herb, then their was an opportunity for you to take a gem or 2. At least you could have use the boats to sneaky and easily killed the noble. But you went for an empty fort...

Don't be angry with me please, maybe yo could explain this ?

[Pakos]

I wont speak for all iggies but i was there only to see new boat and it's awesome :P

[standistortion]

But Alsius can never invade, that's a fact. We simply don't have the people, resources and organization to pull off an invasion

No, we cant and this kind of comment is one of the reasons why. It also states the main reason why we cant invade, we aren't organized.

Look at ignis, they where underpopulated too but by planning, organization and good communication managed to best both alsius and the then all conquering syrtis zerg and are now the dominant realm.

Some will point a finger at folks grouping up for a chat in sight of a taken fort and others grinding inner when the gates are in danger, this is frustrating and causes some folks to quit in rage but its not the reason we cant invade.

We don't communicate. The other realms have mumble working for them, they group up for attacks, buff up and prepare as a group and charge as a group. How can a string of goats running back one by one from resurrection defeat that?

Having less players is a problem but having half those players stood at various forts and saves saying 'anyone know whats happening?' is the real issue. Thats a second group. Thats a second fortification. Thats an invasion. We only have a few warmasters but how many do we need to bring backup to the fort the ememy are focusing on?

All alsius needs to do is communicate, then we can plan. As things stand we are in exactly the same situation as tribes trying to defend against the roman empire. Don't forget that the Celts invaded rome.


Well done to whoever brought the red gem to alsius last night.

[HidraA]

I don't want to troll or something, i know Alsius have hard time ...
But I don't understand you, players of Alsius.


You will never be able to understand Alsius..wile you play from years in favorite NGD's realm....i don't want to keep argue that i told..all frustration gone when i quit playng.It's stupid from your side to argue with one situation for a general balance FAIL.

This game gone for real in 2 extremes....lots of fun for OP realms...and lots of frustrations for weakers realms....and when NGD himself accelerate this process ...

Look at ignis, they where underpopulated too but by planning, organization and good communication managed to best both alsius and the then all conquering syrtis zerg and are now the dominant realm.

They was never underpopulated..maybe you don't play from enaugh time this game....

And again about organisation....alrady it's too hard to do something when NGD himself gave a huge bonus advantage to a realm as W coins ...wtv.

If before balance of realms:was limited at numbers/time/organisatio...now have new feature...alternative invasions mechanics and warmasters....

[Pakos]

You will never be able to understand Alsius..wile you play from years in favorite NGD's realm...


Dude since when ignis is fav ngds realm? :facepalm3:

[UmarilsStillHere]

d..all frustration gone when i quit playng.It's stupid from your side to argue with one situation for a general balance FAIL


Two points:

1, If you quit playing why are you still here posting on the forum?
2, For someone who's not at all frustrated with the game you make a lot of rage posts about the game...

[VandaMan]

Maybe if 20 something high level Alsius hadn't all switched to Alsius Raven so they could buy 500% boosters and zerg a server full of newbies... xD You may be getting your asses beat on Horus, but your buddies that left you behind have opened the portal on Raven like 6 times and never lost a gem yet ^^

[kasper10]

Hmm horus ignis is never underpopulated WHAT DID YOU SAY?
Take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYWINvhrl0

Make some reseach before you say stupid things...

[Jippy]

"Maybe if 20 something high level Alsius hadn't all switched to Alsius Raven"

20 lol - that would be the whole realm on Horus xD My guess would be about 8-12 ppl left and actually some went back to Horus because they couldn't handle the loss of there OP gear :rolleyes2:

"opened the portal on Raven like 6 times"

We actually could open the portal more, BUT WE ONLY DO IT FOR THE REALM EXP BONUS unlike some other realms :play_ball:

[VandaMan]

20 lol - that would be the whole realm on Horus xD My guess would be about 8-12 ppl left

I just gave it 2 minutes thought and came up with 15 quite easily.

[Pimousse]

...
We don't communicate. The other realms have mumble working for them, they group up for attacks, buff up and prepare as a group and charge as a group. How can a string of goats running back one by one from resurrection defeat that?

Having less players is a problem but having half those players stood at various forts and saves saying 'anyone know whats happening?' is the real issue. Thats a second group. Thats a second fortification. Thats an invasion. We only have a few warmasters but how many do we need to bring backup to the fort the ememy are focusing on?

All alsius needs to do is communicate, then we can plan. As things stand we are in exactly the same situation as tribes trying to defend against the roman empire. Don't forget that the Celts invaded rome.


Well done to whoever brought the red gem to alsius last night.

You are the lonely "Active horus alsius player" posting something i undersdand since my previous post. Others are retired or escaped, only trolling :rale:

Use banners to communicate ! (well i say that but i have none as example, hopefully someothers use it).

[standistortion]

Use banners to communicate
That works, and I'm sure NGD will love you for posting it :)

It's a plan, cool, maybe the first we've had in months. If we can stay in groups and make sure someone in them has banners then we have a lot more chance than we did yesterday, banners have worked well for us in the past.

[ufkn]

No, we cant and this kind of comment is one of the reasons why. It also states the main reason why we cant invade, we aren't organized.

Look at ignis, they where underpopulated too but by planning, organization and good communication managed to best both alsius and the then all conquering syrtis zerg and are now the dominant realm.

Some will point a finger at folks grouping up for a chat in sight of a taken fort and others grinding inner when the gates are in danger, this is frustrating and causes some folks to quit in rage but its not the reason we cant invade.

We don't communicate. The other realms have mumble working for them, they group up for attacks, buff up and prepare as a group and charge as a group. How can a string of goats running back one by one from resurrection defeat that?

Having less players is a problem but having half those players stood at various forts and saves saying 'anyone know whats happening?' is the real issue. Thats a second group. Thats a second fortification. Thats an invasion. We only have a few warmasters but how many do we need to bring backup to the fort the ememy are focusing on?

All alsius needs to do is communicate, then we can plan. As things stand we are in exactly the same situation as tribes trying to defend against the roman empire. Don't forget that the Celts invaded rome.


Well done to whoever brought the red gem to alsius last night.

Don't know what side of the rosy bush you live on mate, but all this tribe and Celts and invade Rome things, are only good for books and stories. Doesn't happen in a game like RO. People play where and when they can have fun and log when not. It's a game, don't think more than that of it.

And banners, they cost money you know...

[_Seinvan]

Wow, I guess my realm really does like to whine about every update.

I don't want to troll or something, i know Alsius have hard time ...
But I don't understand you, players of Alsius.

Yesterday, after the update, Ignis took Eferia and Algaros for 20 min. And what did Alsius players ? They captured an empty samal ...
Why ? I can't understand this. You could have tried to take Herb, then their was an opportunity for you to take a gem or 2. At least you could have use the boats to sneaky and easily killed the noble. But you went for an empty fort...

Don't be angry with me please, maybe yo could explain this ?

While this was happening (I guess we wanted to invade Ignis simultaneously? not sure myself) there were many of us who were just standing by at boats to get into Syrtis :p


Maybe if 20 something high level Alsius hadn't all switched to Alsius Raven so they could buy 500% boosters and zerg a server full of newbies... xD You may be getting your asses beat on Horus, but your buddies that left you behind have opened the portal on Raven like 6 times and never lost a gem yet ^^
I only play on Raven in times of low population/activity/Ignis night crew rape on Horus :)

As for this entire update:
If invasions are going to happen as frequently as they have been (update hype) I think this game is going downhill. I prefer a good old fashioned fort fight instead of that lag fest/area spam at the realm gate. Plus with the new saves, I either become too reliant on warmaster teleports or I have to walk back to a fort, which quite frankly both are a pain in the ass.

[tjanex]

Originally Posted by v0rt3x
Nice work, NGD!
Really? Really...?


Ever heard about sarcasm Fear =.='

[VandaMan]

I only play on Raven in times of low population/activity/Ignis night crew rape :)

I didn't know you played on Raven at all O:

[standistortion]

Don't know what side of the rosy bush you live on mate, but all this tribe and Celts and invade Rome things, are only good for books and stories. Doesn't happen in a game like RO. People play where and when they can have fun and log when not. It's a game, don't think more than that of it.

It did for ignis, why not us? And yes, its a game and I'm a player, are you?

And banners, they cost money you know...

Mumble doesnt, do you use it?

[ufkn]

You can't compare Ignis' one time population dip to our constant crisis, certainly not after Warmasters. It's just disheartening to see update after update pushing the game into more zergism and less about tactics and teamplay.

I'm thankful we have atleast some warmasters who are good humble people and keep fighting against the odds day after day without complaining.

As for mumble, many have tried if before, but it doesn't work on a large scale basis, a little group, clan or party is ok but to bring a whole realm into one communication channel is just next to impossible.

[standistortion]

Both syrtis and ignis rely on it for realm wide comunication and ignis population dip would have been a constant decline if they hadnt fought so well, which kind of reminds me of some other realm....

[DemonMonger]

The Alsius situation is a tough one, but there are people that enjoy a challenge. I have seen so many fantastic tactics come out of alsius that other realms are still failing to duplicate.

There are several ways to never lose be invaded even when outnumbered.

Just remember, that we all have seen if you show that a tactic works to well, people will cry and the tactic will get nerfed.

I feel a major problem with more players joining alsius is not only the threat of getting killing by random realmers while just learning the game, but also the fact that raven server will pull a large population away that could possibly play in the US timezones. So a decline is inevitable. Compare Alsius to a sink full of water, someone corks up the tap and opens the drain. Even if the waster goes down slow, it cannot be replenished by the original source.. end of story.

[standistortion]

I feel a major problem with more players joining alsius is not only the threat of getting killing by random realmers while just learning the game, but also the fact that raven server will pull a large population away that could possibly play in the US timezones. So a decline is inevitable.
But that applies to all realms. Alsius main problem is happening as i type this from aggs, there are several groups running around with no idea whats going on and unable to support each other.

[Ulti19]

"Maybe if 20 something high level Alsius hadn't all switched to Alsius Raven"

20 lol - that would be the whole realm on Horus xD My guess would be about 8-12 ppl left and actually some went back to Horus because they couldn't handle the loss of there OP gear :rolleyes2:

"opened the portal on Raven like 6 times"

We actually could open the portal more, BUT WE ONLY DO IT FOR THE REALM EXP BONUS unlike some other realms :play_ball:

Jippy!!! get ur butt back to alsius horus! xD miss you bro.

[HuntShot]

Jippy!!! get ur butt back to alsius horus! xD miss you bro.

I swear I love Ulti.



As for mumble, many have tried if before, but it doesn't work on a large scale basis, a little group, clan or party is ok but to bring a whole realm into one communication channel is just next to impossible.

It does, bring the clan leaders and some more experienced players on the server.. let them talk to eachother and they will coordinate their Clanmembers/Friends to do what you want to accomplish. I got the Alsius Mumble server from standistortion and I'll tell my clanmembers to use it.

[HidraA]

Hmm horus ignis is never underpopulated WHAT DID YOU SAY?
Take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYWINvhrl0

Make some reseach before you say stupid things...

All troble in your post is:very rare situation due of timezone got recordet....but you never see general situation of ignis in 24 hours.
It's human too see only bad situations but when you own WZ for 90% of time it's not counted.

And about Umaril:
When i was defending in old days 2 barbs and one conj "Dian-a-Ling" vs 20-30 ignis Syrtis's gates you neighter play this game,you just spamm forum.Please look at yourself before judge others.
When i was left Syrtis for Alsius was because all clases had a RPG in game..and each person from the games had influence on war results,and ofc i love chalenge.Now with new upgrade, RPG desapear and massive war with random results come.

-Number of players/warmasters has too much impact on war results.
-Also ,how i told before W coins bonuses gave a huge chance for overpopulated realms to boost like 400% to make WM.
-W coins had very bad implementation that in short time alowed to unbalance faster with 400% realm balance.

[uncreative]

Hmm horus ignis is never underpopulated WHAT DID YOU SAY?
Take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYWINvhrl0

Make some reseach before you say stupid things...

When was this? 10 years ago?
xD

[Llayne]

Hi,

...most Alsius give up...

'nuff said

[Pwnography]

When was this? 10 years ago?
xD

"Join date: May 2011"

Believe it or not alsius wasnt always underpopulated and they will gain numbers again.There is a cycle in this game.

[lunedor]

"Join date: May 2011"

Believe it or not alsius wasnt always underpopulated and they will gain numbers again.There is a cycle in this game.

+1 . The server is actually ruined bye a bunch of nolife players from a specific realm. It will probably be possible to have some nice moments again in the game when these people will leave or play less, and when the new "inner realm camping system" will be changed

[HuntShot]

"Join date: May 2011"


Lol, I play for 3 years and 1 month now... look at my forum registration date :).
That doesn't say anything.

[fred1011010110]

+1 . The server is actually ruined bye a bunch of nolife players from a specific realm.

2st of: ur whole post is irelevent to the +1 u postd to fi
2nd of: inb4 mud trowin contesd
3rd of: u r srzly a little kid,,, every1 but syrtis is evil bug glichers unfair no lifers.... i understnd realm pride and bein patriotic but u bring disgrace gurl

fred1011010110,

[ice_zero_cool]

2st of: ur whole post is irelevent to the +1 u postd to fi
2nd of: inb4 mud trowin contesd
3rd of: u r srzly a little kid,,, every1 but syrtis is evil bug glichers unfair no lifers.... i understnd realm pride and bein patriotic but u bring disgrace gurl

fred1011010110,
1st: its not
2nd: uncommented
3rd: i wud srzly think about whos a little kid. just check ur way of spelling'n'u will understnd.

off-topic, but i couldnt stop myself from writing this :P

[standistortion]

off-topic, I'd just like to know how you managed to translate it

[HidraA]

+1 . The server is actually ruined bye a bunch of nolife players from a specific realm. It will probably be possible to have some nice moments again in the game when these people will leave or play less, and when the new "inner realm camping system" will be changed

-1 Only moment when Alsius had enaugh players was when NGD merged Tyr with Horus...but after a short time like 2-3 weeks allrady lots of them left Alsius .....
The only cycle was between syrtis and ignis.

1 year of play:
-Daily night invasion from ignis
2 year of play:
-Syrtis daily farm at Thamal
3 year of play:
-Some kind of equilibrium daily farm of ignis and syrtis at Aggers...
Present days:
-back in the past...daily night invasions of ignis

Was a wile when lets say even players try to balance theyself this game and come to alsius,over 40% of alsius was made from ex syrtis ppl like :

-Jippy was Gage the Decapitor in syrtis
-Klutu was Slayer of Light
-Rhanya was Aylin(not sure the name) was in syrtis
-Gawyn Trakand
-Hidra(The End) was Blue Angel in syrtis(me)
-Irsh was Srikant in syrtis
-Tenel Ka -forgot her nick from syrtis
-Karma was Ski in syrtis
etc lots more of them.....

That why i blame NGD in last update for bad implementation of Warmasters... made lots of them to quit game and all process of "natural" balance was crewed....

[Kyrottimus]

After seeing how Warmasters ruined warfare tactics and turned fights into mindless hack-and-slash slugfests (with basically people just fully buffing and running at each other spamming attacks with no tactics or thought whatsoever), I log in, swing my sword a bit, log out.

If I get wm coins, cool. If not, cool too. Whatever.

[HidraA]

After seeing how Warmasters ruined warfare tactics and turned fights into mindless hack-and-slash slugfests (with basically people just fully buffing and running at each other spamming attacks with no tactics or thought whatsoever), I log in, swing my sword a bit, log out.

If I get wm coins, cool. If not, cool too. Whatever.

+1 yes this i try to say about WM..no more tactics ,no more fun...just random zergs runing around

[standistortion]

After seeing how Warmasters ruined warfare tactics and turned fights into mindless hack-and-slash slugfests (with basically people just fully buffing and running at each other spamming attacks with no tactics or thought whatsoever), I log in, swing my sword a bit, log out.

An attitude that is crippling alsius, but I cant blame you for feeling that way. I'm feel kind of the same now, we are just a farm for the other realms to get their 30 kills.

Communications is one of the most important parts of any army along with chain of command, Alsius has neither. The first is easy, its there for us to use but for some bloody stupid reason I cant understand we dont use it. The second can only work when the first is in place.

Until aslius gets its shit together and sorts this out I'll be on inner beach with my alts. Not that it will make much difference, it just make it a little harder for the other realms to get those 30 kills.

[ice_zero_cool]

off-topic, I'd just like to know how you managed to translate it
google translate? :sifflote: :D xD

[standistortion]

google translate?Tried that, it brought down the server

[KlosPl]

Cheers :D plox

[uncreative]

"Join date: May 2011"

Believe it or not alsius wasnt always underpopulated and they will gain numbers again.There is a cycle in this game.

May 11 hahaha big lie:clapclap:

[Sw4ggerPrince]

I think alsius bigger problem is organization.

I want so say,when ignis has no gems and syrtis 4 gems,what we do? We go take MENI? WTF?? Why,I don't know.
Another example is friday when ignis had efe and alga,and we took SAMAL?ARE YOU SERIOUS? Why,i still don't know! We have only 4-5 WM i think,but there are only 2 or 3 who really have an idea about this game

And another Alsius problem is under population.I don't know why is underpopulated,we have +20% xp i guess.

[roonwick]

I think there's an easy solution: create a warzone channel so there's more ingame communication instead of forcing people to use out of game communication channels like irc, mumble or even just a telephone.

[Minorian]

Another example is friday when ignis had efe and alga,and we took SAMAL?ARE YOU SERIOUS? Why,i still don't know!

Very common occurrence.

[Psynocide]

Speaking as a Syrtian of Horus I can empathize with your sense of demoralization.
Not personally though, but my fellow Syrtians do love to complain about the Ignis horde and many have quit because of it.
We are a little better off than yourselves in Alsius and I do hold a small amount of sympathy for you (Not to be patronizing).
Every so often we can pull off a great invasion with a small force - usually around 8am GMT - but for the most part we're quite down trodden the rest of the time.

Many of our realm are quite negative and it's not helping in the slightest.
The first to complain are often the problem I say.
I have a problem with the overall attitude of my own Realm, misinterpreted orders, bad judgements, loss of communication and selfish motivation are often just more fuel for the fire and I've seen many a time where a player will ragequit due to feeling overwhelmed when trying to actually make a difference.
I won't deny there have been times where I have felt frustrated myself at the lack of communication but I know that brooding over the issue is not going to help.

Personally I like to remain resolutely optimistic, I can see the issue but I'm not going to address it there and then on the spot when someone else loses it, throws their metaphorical hands in the air and question what is wrong with our realm - because usually said person is not exactly going to listen - nor do I feel like telling someone like that (Yes I harbor strong contempt for the pessimists of Syrtis).

Ignis bear far greater numbers over the other two realms.
I'm not going to ridicule them though - I have nothing personally against them but they do have superior numbers thus when a team mate complains about our own supposed lack of order and planning I get frustrated.
Just because one realm is represented by a different colour does not mean they do not have their fair share of breaks in communication and undesirable players (putting it mildly).
I'm sure if someone from Alsius where to ask a player from Ignis if they feel their Realm is just an unruly mob at times they'd say yes.
Numbers give a huge advantage to a Realm's gameplay and at times I have seen - during a time of day when less Ignis are online - Alsius absolutely swamp them, it's rare compared with how often it works the other way round but it does happen.

Essentially, this is all speculative banter and nothing will change as a consequence.
So my advise is this:
If you're the type that is easily frustrated and known to loose their countenance I suggest you play during your Realms high time and if you feel like playing at any other time you could always grind if you're not already level 60.
If you don't really mind what the situation is - whether your team mates are cussing up a storm while your gems are stolen for the third time in a day or you're trouncing another Realm by pure force - you'll play anyway then obviously jump on whenever you feel like (You also get a cookie from myself for bearing such an attitude).
If you like a challenge and are completely resilient to being demoralized by large numbers and hopeless odds then play during your Realms downtime.

Just remember it's a game and games are for entertainment - if you're not entertained then don't play.
Also try checking out that famous Monty Python song while you're at it..

[Torcida]

I think the new invasions mechanics kinda Fucked the imbalance on Horus :clapclap: because every realm has a chance to invade now realms can work together and even if there aren´t many people in your realm online you can go sightseeing in the invaded realm which is very fun too so I do think we have to give NGD a BIG thumbs of for this Invasion used to occur 1 or 2 times in a month now realms are being invaded all the time!

Great work NGD!:thumb:

[Torcida]

I think there's an easy solution: create a warzone channel so there's more ingame communication instead of forcing people to use out of game communication channels like irc, mumble or even just a telephone.

A telephone!! Really?:clapclap:

[Nils_Dacke]

"Join date: May 2011"

Believe it or not alsius wasnt always underpopulated and they will gain numbers again.There is a cycle in this game.

Actually, I can't remember when. Was that long before invasions were introduced?

The idea with the dragon's wish is fundamentally flawed. The idea with the noble's assassination quests is fundamentally flawed. They are flawed for the one and same reason:

Compare to other games, like golf for instance. There you have a 'handicap' system where new/less skilled players are given a little head start just to make the contests more interesting. The more points you score in constests, the lower your handicap gets. Top players have zero handicap. This is called negative feedback in control theory, and is a necessary component in a self-regulating (self-stabilising) system.

In Regnum Online, they have done the exact opposite. The more points you score, the higher your handicap becomes. You accumulate advantages (xp, rlm bonus, gear, wm's etc) the more you invade or kill superbosses, making it easier to invade and kill superbosses each next time. This is called positive feedback and yields a system that is notoriously unstable. It swings over to one extreme and stays there until something else, outside of the system itself, changes. Players of the high handicap realm may get bored and leave for a while, opening up for another realm to build up assets and swing the system over to another extreme. Or, which happens here quite often, the developers sees that the patient looks ill and introduce new odd rules which only treats the specific symtom:
Balance:
-New: System that deactivate the realm Gems during times of low population in the game world. The system doesn’t allow capturing the gems in predefined time schedules. During this time, the gems will be blocked by a visual effect.
The above is a good example of treating the symtoms rather than the disease. That players of a certain timezone/realm are absent, is the symtom. The disease is that the game is unstable. Why are they absent in the first place?

Treat the disease:
What they should do, for starters, is to drop the dragon wish. Give the realm gem collectors silly hats and keep a scoreboard or whatever that doesn't affect gameplay. But preferably, and to make the game more interesting, there ought to be some form of negative feedback that makes it harder to invade for each consecutive successful invasion of the enemy realms. Then we might have a self-regulating game system here, and the developers don't have to hand patch in kludgy peculiar rules from time to time.

The 'kill their nobles' quests should also not be awarded with a raised handicap, if kept at all. On top of generating positive feedback, it is also a quest that seems to encourage multirealming. How are we single-realmers even supposed to know where to find these targets or recon for the mission? First time I saw that quest, I had no idea what I was supposed to do: 'kill who?, go where?' I actually cancelled it.

Imbalance: bad
Balance: good

Unstable game system: bad
Self-stabilising game system: good

Positive feedback: bad
Negative feedback: good

Hoping the coin drops eventually.

Yours truly,

[blood-raven]

maybe alsius should just go to war?

i mean when we crossed alsius oc a couple of days ago there where like 20 goats zerging us oO and still they din't take forts, wth man, stop complaining and start playing.

[HidraA]

maybe alsius should just go to war?

i mean when we crossed alsius oc a couple of days ago there where like 20 goats zerging us oO and still they din't take forts, wth man, stop complaining and start playing.

:facepalm3: other exagerating argument.....seems make everything x3 times...
:)

[Topogigio_BR]

The Alsius situation is a tough one, but there are people that enjoy a challenge. I have seen so many fantastic tactics come out of alsius that other realms are still failing to duplicate.

There are several ways to never lose be invaded even when outnumbered.

Just remember, that we all have seen if you show that a tactic works to well, people will cry and the tactic will get nerfed.

I feel a major problem with more players joining alsius is not only the threat of getting killing by random realmers while just learning the game, but also the fact that raven server will pull a large population away that could possibly play in the US timezones. So a decline is inevitable. Compare Alsius to a sink full of water, someone corks up the tap and opens the drain. Even if the waster goes down slow, it cannot be replenished by the original source.. end of story.

The situation is not basically alsius fault, or even Ignis glory, it is a pre-fabricated situation due to lack of vision of NGD.
Invasions at night are happening not cos alsius lacks communication ( it does, but this is not the major problem), the simple fact is Ignis has more Warmasters than any other realm. NGD didnt thought at this unbalancing when they introduced nobles guest and gave Ignis a large number of WM.
During this invasion whoever you kill will be back in the fort in a matter of seconds, cos they have to much WM's to have free teletransport every time.

Even so Ignis still have to wait till all syrtis logoff to try to invade, also a pre-fabricated for NGD, cos even so syrtis still have lot of ppl and lot of warmasters.

[Alzaroth_]

Ignis don't have many more players than others realm. We are probably less than syrtians.

If we succeed in invasions and stuff, it's because we can have organization. And I say "can" because it's not always... Sometimes I see few high level in my friend list we are ALL a t war and we do a lot of good things. Sometimes I see a lot of high level but we split everywhere on the map and we are just zerged by Syrtis and Alsius.

I have a problem with the overall attitude of my own Realm, misinterpreted orders, bad judgements, loss of communication and selfish motivation are often just more fuel for the fire and I've seen many a time where a player will ragequit due to feeling overwhelmed when trying to actually make a difference.

It's the same in Ignis. Sometimes we have the same issues and we do crap. But thanks to some awesome players who lead us at war we don't suffer this to much. That's maybe why you think we are more. We are just more at the same place, at the same moment.

[bois]

Once again Karl has produced a gem of a post here. It is by far the best I have seen in ages.

He simply describes the disease which has plagued the game since the inception of Invasion expansion. I do hope that NGD and the community at large reads his post very carefully.

I agree thoroughly with it and he is dead on the money. I have never been a big fan of the dragon wishes (as most know) and the noble quest either.
However, I do notice a trend at NGD Studios and decided that I make suggestions that adjust what is already in place because they almost never turn back the clock (unless the RA community is in riot mode).
This company sometimes reminds me of the politicians in my little country. A poor decision is made but, rather than retract, the idea is pushed forward hard because it is their idea and they know what they are doing. The citizens are clueless .It will work out somehow. Give it time. This is the mantra.
In politics, people get voted out, in business market forces rule. NGD is lucky in this respect. it has managed to secure a niche market and a bit of a cult following. It is this that sustains it yet handicaps it. We shall see if time can break the shackles.

Karl is right. How can a game boost the invaders and or punish the invaded with game quality changing features? How can this be allowed to stack? +/- XP stacks, warmasters stack, malus stack. Why? This positive feedback loop is what is driving the imbalances and polarity.

This might be harsh to say but they should have never implemented Invasions (the way it is now) in the first place. They could have shrunk the Inner realm zones and expanded the landmass of the war zone. Add supplementary structures. They could have made capturing islands instead of inner realm.
You are telling me that they could not simply make 3 islands captureable if you use the same mechanics for invasions? Make 1 supplementary island for -40 level players to capture.

Push lower level players into the warzone to grind gradually. The game would have been enjoyable and exciting without the pressure. You could log off , secure in the knowledge that sleep would not be your undoing. even if your realm was mauled overnight at least you were no worse off through no fault of your own next morning.
Dragon wishes are terrible, all of them.
The warmaster expansion was partially a symptom fixer too.
Run away CC effects which grew exponentially the bigger your army became had to be handled somehow.
=Enter the beacons. It only served to open the gulf wider because it treated the symptom and not the disease.
Nothing of interest between forts and half the time spent running between objectives. Game is slow and pedestrian = Enter portals. Enter horn of wind.

Speed does not always equal fun.

NGD decided the pace of the game was too slow so they brought changes to increase the pace. One of those that broke many things was that increase in base speed.

There are many conceptual things that need addressing in this game. Obviously they are not simple to address. Equally obvious is that if you keep building on the sand, one day it is going to collapse under the weight of its patches. It would not be seen on Ra because populations are going to mask obvious problems. Horus should be the test bed. If it does not work here it is not a solid implementation. All must scale to variable populations. If you don't want that then each server must have separate implementations.

Regards

[Psynocide]

Ignis don't have many more players than others realm. We are probably less than syrtians.

I'm afraid not, if you didn't outnumber us prior to the warmaster update then you do now.
Due to so many of our own players just quitting because of it.
You also have about four times the warmasters, we're lucky to have three online at the same time.

There has been many a time (up until the "gem lock" hotfix) where it would be myself and about six others defending one fort or another at roughly 5am GMT from constant attack due to your warmaster teleports.
After about an hour of struggling, Ignis usually succeed in making our gates
vulnerable so the six or seven same players would have to dash to the Realm wall in order to defend there or try and take Algaros or Herbred while you concern yourself with the gate.
Even then though, while a zerg of about ten - twenty are reported to be closing in on the gate or inside our noble's residence we still find another fairly large group guarding the forts - those who do not need the noble I'm assuming.

During your high time, you outnumber us by about 3:1 and our lack of communication once in a while doesn't help.

[Alzaroth_]

Once again, I'm not sure of this. I can't say how many you are in you realm, but sometimes I see a lot of Ignis online but we are outnumbered because we split or people just don't care of war.

And since few days, your night crew is very nice too...

The problem of Alsius remains the same... But there is no solution. They just have to don't quit the game, keep their recruit and get more organization...

[VeterKh]

I see a lot of Ignis online but we are outnumbered because we split or people just don't care of war.


it was with me when i need to grind :facepalm3: sry!