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_Enio_
09-03-2011, 06:02 PM
Remind you, nothing fixed, just a hint on the plans for the near future.

However i dont want to hold back this nice little gem of information.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6505/screenshot2011090319421.jpg

Please refrain from negative comments in this thread. Wait for details for criticism if you have some.

Thank you!

The_Krome_Dragon
09-03-2011, 06:07 PM
Nice Thx for the info

Latan
09-03-2011, 06:08 PM
i really don't know how ngd could balance dual welding with double bonus (attack speed, str or damage), CGD, magnifications, different trees and so on if they couldn't even balance confuse in 3 years.

i'm a bit pessimistic about that

isgandarli
09-03-2011, 06:32 PM
Remind you, nothing fixed, just a hint on the plans for the near future.

However i dont want to hold back this nice little gem of information.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6505/screenshot2011090319421.jpg

Please refrain from negative comments in this thread. Wait for details for criticism if you have some.

Thank you!

lol i was keep looking for dual wield on char, then i've found that all info is in chat log ))))

UmarilsStillHere
09-03-2011, 06:36 PM
i really don't know how ngd could balance dual welding with double bonus (attack speed, str or damage), CGD, magnifications, different trees and so on if they couldn't even balance confuse in 3 years.


I kinda doubt it will be as complex as you think, dual wield is already mentioned in the description of the 2h tree, has been for years, as well as staff like weapons if I remember correctly, so it'll likely fall under that tree.

I'd be surprised if there is a new tree of many new spells brought in with Dual Wield, most likely it'll be new animations + new weapon graphics, and probably with a large chunk of those weapon sets borrowing from existing weapons.

I predict you'll buy them in pairs fitting into the existing trees, eg. Dual rapiers, rual hammers etc. Not buying a 1h spear (with its set of stats/bonuses) to use in one hand and a hammer (with its set of stats/bonuses) in the other.

They'll probably be faster than 2h weapons, and maybe with more mixed damage types, that's all.

Lots of possibly maybes here, but I reckon this is what we'll get :)

Latan
09-03-2011, 07:02 PM
I predict you'll buy them in pairs fitting into the existing trees, eg. Dual rapiers, rual hammers etc. Not buying a 1h spear (with its set of stats/bonuses) to use in one hand and a hammer (with its set of stats/bonuses) in the other.

i think this could be the easyest way, but ngd is telling from AGES to barbarians that many 1handed weapon (knight's ones) have "warrior" as class requirement to make barbarian use them in the future dual welding update.
i remind you that barbarians can still obtain 1h weapon from platinum boxes.

and i still can't see how to balance a magnanite sword (fast, maybe with 2 attack speed gems) with a slow hammer/spear. i'm pessimisthic about that 2 weapon cycles that can't fit together in my mind

HidraA
09-03-2011, 07:12 PM
i think this could be the easyest way, but ngd is telling from AGES to barbarians that many 1handed weapon (knight's ones) have "warrior" as class requirement to make barbarian use them in the future dual welding update.
i remind you that barbarians can still obtain 1h weapon from platinum boxes.

and i still can't see how to balance a magnanite sword (fast, maybe with 2 attack speed gems) with a slow hammer/spear. i'm pessimisthic about that 2 weapon cycles that can't fit together in my mind

chains of nerfs....Chilko told ,balance maybe even at 2 weeks.

Psynocide
09-03-2011, 07:44 PM
It'd be nice if knights can dual wield as well.
That way we can knarb true to the name.

UmarilsStillHere
09-03-2011, 07:46 PM
...

It'll certainly be interesting to see how they do it, and if that old excuse about barbarians being able to use one handed weapons from boxes in the far future actually comes to anything.

chains of nerfs....Chilko told ,balance maybe even at 2 weeks.

Don't be a pessimist, with more frequent balance updates we won't have to live with any of the glaring imbalances overlooked by the previous balance round for six months, instead hopefully they'll be fixed in a matter of weeks :)

It'd be nice if knights can dual wield as well.
That way we can knarb true to the name.

And render the shield tree null and void? I doubt they'll go for it, in fact I think they said that knights defiantly won't have dual wield somewhere ...

Castingbeast
09-03-2011, 08:33 PM
Remind you, nothing fixed, just a hint on the plans for the near future.

However i dont want to hold back this nice little gem of information.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6505/screenshot2011090319421.jpg

Please refrain from negative comments in this thread. Wait for details for criticism if you have some.

Thank you!

Just a little something to add, guess enio couldnt screen it yet but i think its important and many many waiting for it to happen:

Saves will be reverted in the third week of september!!!! xD :clapclap:

New castles will come at the same time with the same update.

Nice news indeed, just dont understand why NGD cant make an announcement about these things, really :crying1:.

Thx for the post btw enio :D.

bois
09-03-2011, 08:51 PM
Thanks for the info. However I will not get ahead of my self. I look forward to any advances in the GUI. If they do come this year, great.

Twin weapons will be the easiest way but it will not be possible if they intend to keep the promise of barbs being able to use 'warrior' weapons. They would have to employ the main hand and off hand system if they want to do that.

That system and equations behind it are not easy to formulate by any means. I have researched how that is done in other games and to be honest , I don't envy their task if they intend to go that way.

Regards

Dee-luxX
09-05-2011, 02:27 PM
June 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIelm-j70k&feature=related