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Klutu
09-03-2011, 08:31 PM
I'm just wondering if it would be possible to make Regnum Online onto the Console machines (Ps3/360)

Also would people be interested in this?

Znurre
09-03-2011, 08:41 PM
When I first read the title, I thought "console" as in a terminal.
I had a hard time imagining playing Regnum as CLI.

On topic, I voted no.
I don't own a console, and even if I did my opinion is that console games and computer games are different things.
When you try to mix them, you end up making compromises that can hurt the other platform, as is the case with many console ports.

UmarilsStillHere
09-03-2011, 08:48 PM
They'd have to play around with the whole GUI, chat would be a problem unless you get everyone on headsets, and porting to a mac has been enough of a pain to get kinda-sort of working. It would be a big job to get it working on an xbox, let alone a ps3, and I think someone at NGD said the ps3 processor is incompatible anyway or something, was a while back.

Its hard enough to push a MMO specially developed for consoles and get it working, let alone port one over from here, and make all the necessary changes, they'd essentially end up with two game versions to maintain.

And with those consoles coming to the end of their cycles by the time the one dev they can spare is half way done with the port they'll be outdated :p

I'd like to see a MMO really succeed on a console one day, but Regnum isn't the one to do it :)

isgandarli
09-03-2011, 09:51 PM
NGD even can't fix bugs and implement correctly working new features. Don't give them such idea for now :)

LucianDeathshield
09-04-2011, 08:46 AM
You mean like this? xD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIxlcZQ3CY0

-Logan-
09-04-2011, 09:42 AM
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=29654

No chance whatsoever now anyway though since OtherOS has been (officially) removed on the PS3.

As for MMO's on consoles, it doesn't work because it isn't a success financially. The console market follows a completely different genre. There are other lesser reasons like how even IF the MMO is successful the platform holders will demand a share of the already minuscule profits. If it's an MMO with Regnum's quality... then don't make me laugh.

Voice chat has been taking over the last few years, but keyboard text chat is still there, and it's problematic to implement a normal working text chat system. Another problem is development cycles, consoles are scrapped and new ones enter the market every few years, by the time a team would finish porting an MMO to a console they would already be behind in time, and an MMO is a BIG project because a (good) MMO is the size of a couple games in one. So the cost is big, and the commitment for console gamers is different. I could go on and on, but I'm sure you see why this is a waste of money and resources.

If it was worth it Blizzard would have done it by now.

tl;dr fuck consoles and stick with the glorious PC master race.

HidraA
09-04-2011, 11:32 AM
Hehe i wonder if it's posible on Android and IOS(ipad/iphone) :P :D
Will be cool to play on IPad and Android tablets :P
OpenGL ES engine...duno if it's hard to port from OpenGL or even it's posible :P :D but i wish...about console it's a by far more dificult.Totaly diferent engine arhitecture.

standistortion
09-04-2011, 11:52 AM
Hehe i wonder if it's posible on Android and IOS(ipad/iphone) :P
Would be a killer app if an android port was possible, there is a big hole in the market for decent games on android just wating to be filled. Cant see it working for a lot of the same reasons as a PS3/XBox port though.

HidraA
09-04-2011, 01:19 PM
Would be a killer app if an android port was possible, there is a big hole in the market for decent games on android just wating to be filled. Cant see it working for a lot of the same reasons as a PS3/XBox port though.

Heheh i bet NGD can doit...even wee blame them for lots of bugs and thinks.
The main issue is time,money and too much work for this small team.
But wee forget a think...they are very skilled.
Even huge companys dose not have 3 platforms game(with native clients) even they have over 200 employers and bug testers teams.
For a small company with a few programers doing a great job..this means skills....for tons of details they need numbers...it's that what dose not have.

Mattdoesrock
09-04-2011, 05:33 PM
No. Why? This (www.kbmod.com).

Minorian
09-04-2011, 06:31 PM
PC Gaming>Console Gaming.

No exceptions.

UmarilsStillHere
09-04-2011, 08:33 PM
PC Gaming>Console Gaming.
No exceptions.


Fanboy :p

No doubt the PC can keep with the times better with regards to the hardware you have access to.

But some games, particularly 3rd person action like Devil May Cry, Uncharted, Batman: Arkham Asylum etc. I just couldn't see working with a PC unless you buy a console-style controller, in which case you pretty much negate your own argument by using console elements.

Just as an RTS doesn't really work without a keyboard and mouse, some things don't work well without a dual sticks.

Minorian
09-04-2011, 11:47 PM
Fanboy :p

No doubt the PC can keep with the times better with regards to the hardware you have access to.

But some games, particularly 3rd person action like Devil May Cry, Uncharted, Batman: Arkham Asylum etc. I just couldn't see working with a PC unless you buy a console-style controller, in which case you pretty much negate your own argument by using console elements.

Just as an RTS doesn't really work without a keyboard and mouse, some things don't work well without a dual sticks.

Fanboy :p

But seriously, maybe I just havent played enough games on both platforms, but so far I always chose PC>console.

I cant say I enjoyed Devil May Cry, although Arkham Asylum was quite good on my friends ps3.

On Topic, I can see that for many people playing on a console is more desirable for aspects such as less money, but in the end I can't see it paying off for NGD.

I'm not even going to start on how much of an advantage PC users would have over the Console players :p

NSer
09-05-2011, 04:48 AM
I'm not even going to start on how much of an advantage PC users would have over the Console players :p

*Startring* Chat,Normal Hotkey system,lesss pain with choosing target etc etc etc

UmarilsStillHere
09-05-2011, 12:01 PM
I'm not even going to start on how much of an advantage PC users would have over the Console players :p

Yeah the tech is years ahead x)

But its like comparing F1 and Rally Cars, both are still cars, they're just better at different things :)

HidraA
09-05-2011, 01:04 PM
Wuahahaha i love to seee this fight :D...

This fight PC vs Console is like Linux vs Mac vs Windows infinite arguments for all sides :D

There are secondary fights Consoles:PS3 vs XboX vs Nintendo
And PC:Windows vs Linux vs Mac....

Each player love to play some kind of games.Some of them are more easy for some ppl to be played on joystick and some of them are more easy to play for some of them to be played on PC.

Also some games are worst to be played on console and some of them are better.

For example i prefer(it's jut my opinion not general can be revers):
-FPS(first person shooters)-PC..just because hard to target someone with joystick
-Regnum where you need to click i prefer him on PC but there is mouse and keyboard for PS3 too.
-Some RPG as Tomb RidersTenchu etc.. ,Cars games,Football games,Fight Games(street fighter and mortal combat) i prefer them to play on PS3 with joystick.

If you watch from tehnology point of view,consoles are more balanced price/performances than a PC...why?... sample.
While a console costs around 300 USD(in my country XBOX)..my PC with medium performances cost around 300 USD.
But the think in PC if i want to keep the step with new games i need to upgrade him with new GPU and CPU(extra cash) while for a console at least 1-2 years games are designed for same hardware.
It's like a MAC,even better each game is designed for certain hardware.Bugs numbers are reduced a lots.And as a prove you can see tech support on forum whats means multi hardwares troble.

Also from graphical performances a console it's by far more advanced than a PC...the best VGA(crosfire ATi)or Nvidia dual VGA/GPU it's at 60% performances of a console.

Don't forget a PC it's designed for multi task and multi function...a console is dedicated for gaming/graphical performances.

Maybe i see from many points because i use all of them console/pc for gaming..and even OS mac/linux/windows...simbyan/android/IOS i don't say one is better than other..just some of them ore better at some thinks and others at others thinks.

But as general review i think the best think it's that one what each persone like to use and what can satisfie you necesities.

And i think people must stop to fight and apreciate any company that comes with inovation of technolgy and dose not matter if it's Apple,Microsoft,Intel,AMD,Nvidia,Sony etc etc...

-Logan-
09-05-2011, 06:07 PM
Also from graphical performances a console it's by far more advanced than a PC...the best VGA(crosfire ATi)or Nvidia dual VGA/GPU it's at 60% performances of a console.

Don't forget a PC it's designed for multi task and multi function...a console is dedicated for gaming/graphical performances.
Orly? Care to share a source on that info?

Because I can't see how this can be applied when most games are designed from the ground up for the PC first and then ported to consoles. For that same reason the graphics are higher on a PC game when compared to a console game. (Example #1: A PC can render at a native 1080p resolution, while console games only go up to 720p, the 1080p era is just beginning for them.) Consoles are still weaker in terms of hardware, they are only "built" for gaming because every console has the same hardware inside. So there are no unique problems, whereas on a PC one person might get lag, another can get this error, and so on, because the hardware is different. It's kind of obvious.

I'd rather say a PC is for a custom experience, while a console is for an experience built solely for that machine. In the end isn't that what console games are designed for? To run on that machine? Run an emulator off your PC and then again everyone gets different performance. If your computer fails at emulating a PS2 ROM that doesn't mean your PC is weaker then a PS2.

Perberus
09-05-2011, 06:35 PM
I should like to play Regnum in my Caanoo, but it only support Quake I.
Caanoo uses linux and had touchscreen.

When I first read the title, I thought "console" as in a terminal.
I had a hard time imagining playing Regnum as CLI.

Like rogue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_%28video_game%29)

HidraA
09-05-2011, 06:37 PM
.....

I will quote from my post again ..you flame for nothing...useless fight too :D

When you will learn to like features and not the company/os/think ..you can come and flame again ...

Wuahahaha i love to seee this fight ...

This fight PC vs Console is like Linux vs Mac vs Windows infinite arguments for all sides..

-Logan-
09-05-2011, 06:42 PM
I will quote from my post again ..you flame for nothing...
I'm not flaming :confused:, and thank you but I can read. It seems everytime someone disagrees with you you get all defensive and jumpy and throw in your misconceived judgement's. I just asked you for a source on where you get your info from, but oh well please forgive me if that's asking for too much :what:

UmarilsStillHere
09-05-2011, 07:36 PM
I did read somewhere that hardware on a console will run a game better that hardware on a PC (if the hardware is the same, as much as possible, gpu ram etc)

Because as Hydra mentioned, the console is optimized to run games, that's all it does, or at least that's all they used to do, they do branch into mutimedia more now. But the core is the same, its hardware/software is all built specifically with gaming in mind.

With most PC's gaming is not the focus. Even if you build your own from the ground up, unless you are some kind of programming wizz it won't be as specialised as a console. It'll always have a load of stuff running in the background that's not needed for the game you're running.

Of course, I have no idea where I got this from, or any clue about its validity or reliability, but this is what I've heard :)

And even if there is a answer on what actually runs what better in a comparative way looking only at hardware, with all the games around you're still back where you started. What does a game developed for both PC and Console run better on? How about comparable PC exclusives vs PS3 exclusives? Does Starcraft run better than Uncharted3? How about past the mere technical? Which puts out the most variety of fun games? Which genres are weak spots on each system?

And then! What about the individual persons skill set? For example I was a console gamer long before I started pc gaming, so though people may prefer keyboard+mouse precision in a shooter, when I played Mass Effect 1 on my pc I found it awkward to balance my keyboard use of cover, constant movement, skills etc. with shooting with the mouse, I never really got comfortable with it, where as I never had such problems with Mass Effect 2 on my PS3, I've even gone and beaten it on insanity. Now while this may apply to me, I don't doubt the total opposite would be true for other people.

Its a huge mess of questions that honestly aren't worth the time it would take to work out a meaningful answer for, I'm just writing this because I'm a bit bored x)

Klutu
09-06-2011, 04:03 AM
Whatever I love my PS3 and id love to be able to Play Regnum Online on it so i wouldn't have to buy a new pc just for the sake of playing this game xD