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Rob_the_knight
10-06-2011, 07:53 PM
Why does REALMS online exist? Are they a knockoff of Regnum? Are they an official ngdstudios game? If so, why are they supporting gamesamba too?

Tell us the story of how realms online came about. Please. Tell us everything. Regnum was plenty good enough for everyone to enjoy. Was ping an issue?

Mattdoesrock
10-06-2011, 07:56 PM
Realms Online IS Regnum Online. It's an American server published by GameSamba; much in the same way that the German servers are published by Gamigo.

I heard it was called Realms because it was easier to understand or some rubbish. Anyway, it's not a rip off, it's the actual game, just an American server.

Rob_the_knight
10-06-2011, 08:03 PM
Ok so, beings the server support is shitty and the GMs are spamming the world chat with stupid notices, wouldn't that make regnum look worse? Hopefully Realms can get rid of gamesamba and go out on their own and do their own thing like regnum. I played regnum for ages and I like the classic feel of it, but hate that not many people play on horus anymore... because they all went to raven. I'm still waiting for my Xim to be converted from sambas. Been waiting a month.

Southbound
10-06-2011, 09:02 PM
Ok so, beings the server support is shitty and the GMs are spamming the world chat with stupid notices, wouldn't that make regnum look worse? Hopefully Realms can get rid of gamesamba and go out on their own and do their own thing like regnum. I played regnum for ages and I like the classic feel of it, but hate that not many people play on horus anymore... because they all went to raven. I'm still waiting for my Xim to be converted from sambas. Been waiting a month.

Realms online wouldnt exist if it wasnt for Game Samba.

NGD took a decission to let Game Samba to publish their game. And why? For money and exposure of the game!

Game Samba have the resources and money to advertise the game to a larger portion of North America then NGD ever will.

Sure, for those thats "left" on Horus have seen some decline in population. But looking at the big picture, and the future of Regnum I think NGD made the right choice...
More or less free advertising to a target group that NGD hasnt been able to reach with any kind success themselves, the north americans.

UmarilsStillHere
10-06-2011, 09:18 PM
Way to jump to uninformed conclusions :P

In the USA 'Harry Potter and the philosophers stone' is called 'Harry Potter and the sorcerers stone' because a big word like philosophers is scary and confusing to Americans or something ... Same story here Regnum is a strange word, Realms is nice and familiar. Gotta look out for those Americans, what with it being an American server founded by an American publisher.

Kittypretty
10-07-2011, 12:21 AM
definitely..Just try to take an unbiased view :) No one told you to switch. I for one never had issues with their server performance pretty much like Regnums.

I would rather be informed of upcoming events/notices/promotions. Unless you mean the whole notice spam that is in Regnum
when forst captures...and now achievement spam. The GMS there I think do a great Job and NGD should moderate the chat here too, (yeah everyone says no, we can behave, but no one can) Least they actively moderate and answer questions, help players with stuck locations, and generally give players a sense of at least an official involved staff, even if its not NGD. I wish NGD would do the same, but guess they can't afford it or who knows. I know many would volunteer their time just as well, even with no real benefits.
Just like seeing a game that is basically unmoderated completely, have a problem? send a ticket? wait months, maybe something will happen, by then its too late.

TBH and this has nothing against NGD as a company and for their work making a great game. I would switch in a second, because I like the support, the moderation and the helpful community, instead of feeling like a dwindling playerbase of USA playrs who were sold was back when on the promise Horus was going to be the answer for our dwindling english population on RA..

I would love to join a time zone and server that is more fitting for me, however I'm done making characters again and again. We got an iffy "if horus dies cuz of it, then yeah we may let transfers happen" I still think thats unfair, having to stick with a server with no new players from my Country coming in, with no alternative other than..start again. Why should I have to wait till the worst (if ever) when NGD has already clear cut the line between english, and "american" I speak english, I speak spanish, I speak japanese, but I'm still..american. wasn't it enough to just keep a server with a common language instead of giving it to GS to advertise/support, and leave players like me stranded? (again) like I was on RA *least you offered transfers, 2 years too later but still, Nothing against any speaker from anywhere outside USA, my only issue is, timezone, and segregation but leaving those caught between it, with no recourse.
If I am american I should belong on Raven by your own agreement with GS, so why am I not given a way to move there? Wasn't anything ever talked about existing players on horus already, or just the usual "they were silly enough to grind on horus after they left ra..well I dont want to.

Sorry for the Rant. I just hate knowing that I will never meet any new USA players in game, and watch my time zone issues become more and more apparent, with "too bad'' because halfway through, you changed what the server catered to. If RA was suddenly excluding Argentina, one of the biggest spanish speaking countries in the world, you'd be thinking..what the hell? when seeing it still listed as a spanish server...

I can't say i blame those people for leaving..but they have likely more incentive to grind again, money, fellow friends moving with them etc, but the bottom line is, it feels like they want to exclude gradually that portion of Horus' playerbase in an effort to equalize time zone issues. Just sucks for us who didn't want nor ask to be separated. I wan't to play with people I can understand, and I dealt with the time zone issues as best as possible but now it seems even less hopeful that they will be solved at least for me. but what now? sit and keep coping with even less and less staying and zero new players from USA? not fair at all to pick between dead hours, or losing all my work here because no plan/deal was ever made to provide a means for us to join them if we chose.



meh so thats my unintended long whiny/ranty post..but I like Raven, shame I cant play on it with characters I devoted alot of time to.

So i guess id just want to know, without hearing anything from either side, whether its even discussed, dropped, no go, so I can move on if Horus for me will just become even more sparse in my time zone, as I i don't have the desire to start again on raven as much as I love the game, if starting over, may as well try a new game and new learning curve, etc, as I dont wanna learn to ride a bike 3-4 times :P So hope it wasn't too harsh, just being in the dark and left hanging sucks. I'd rather just have an answer and look forward to something, or move on. I had some good years so its not exactly out of boredom, just left alot of players alienated with basically barring players I know, can tell regnum about, and being on a server which technically doesn't cater or support where I play from, so it leaves a bad impression to be honest, "sure I can keep playing" sure I could, but that doesn't make people magically appear online during my time zone and when I am on.

Like I said somewhere else..not so fun playing a ORPG without the MM part :S

_Seinvan
10-07-2011, 04:44 AM
Realms Online is just Regnum Online, but with better customer service xD

The_Krome_Dragon
10-07-2011, 04:45 AM
Way to jump to uninformed conclusions :P

In the USA 'Harry Potter and the philosophers stone' is called 'Harry Potter and the sorcerers stone' because a big word like philosophers is scary and confusing to Americans or something ... Same story here Regnum is a strange word, Realms is nice and familiar. Gotta look out for those Americans, what with it being an American server founded by an American publisher.

are u serious bout the the harry potter title?? If so ROLF.

As for kitty what timezone u play in and what part of NA u in(which state if u live in the greastest country on earthxD)

UmarilsStillHere
10-07-2011, 04:59 PM
are u serious bout the the harry potter title?? If so ROLF.

Yup :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Philosopher's_Stone

It is a son of a bitch position for American players who already leveled to 50, and quite likely paid to do so, on Horus. As well as being asked to leave friends, characters, items etc behind just so you can start all over again is hard. Who wants to grind the same class to levelcap twice? Or even 3 times if you played Ra as well.

_Nel_
10-07-2011, 05:02 PM
are u serious bout the the harry potter title?? If so ROLF.

Sure it is.

Blame Edward Bernays for his book: Propaganda.

lilrestraint16
10-07-2011, 07:27 PM
Ok so, beings the server support is shitty and the GMs are spamming the world chat with stupid notices, wouldn't that make regnum look worse? Hopefully Realms can get rid of gamesamba and go out on their own and do their own thing like regnum. I played regnum for ages and I like the classic feel of it, but hate that not many people play on horus anymore... because they all went to raven. I'm still waiting for my Xim to be converted from sambas. Been waiting a month.

you have to convert your own sambas into xim, if you press x, click web page it will give you the option to convert there. confusing yes I know but, that is how it is done.

Rob_the_knight
10-07-2011, 09:52 PM
See I didnt know that. Thanks for the help. I'm a happy customer now.

Kittypretty
10-08-2011, 06:18 AM
Reno, Nevada here,

Soon to be back home in Oahu, so depending, i'll be 2-3 hours even more behind my usual hours (as Hawaii don't give a damn about dst :D)

Kitsuni
10-08-2011, 09:32 AM
See I didnt know that. Thanks for the help. I'm a happy customer now.
Asking any GM about the issue in game (or even players) nets a reply within a few minutes.......

Rob_the_knight
10-08-2011, 03:41 PM
i said that i bought sambas a month ago and they made me file a ticket rather than tell me that it can be converted via webshop

PT_DaAr_PT
10-08-2011, 04:54 PM
i said that i bought sambas a month ago and they made me file a ticket rather than tell me that it can be converted via webshop

Hahahaha I was about to make a joke like that. xD

Merry123
10-08-2011, 11:26 PM
Cause god wants it

_Enio_
10-09-2011, 01:22 AM
i said that i bought sambas a month ago and they made me file a ticket rather than tell me that it can be converted via webshop

lol. big fail.

Kittypretty
10-09-2011, 01:36 AM
I like how you can least earn them for free though..even if its just the typical boring survey stuff.

Wish NGD provided alternate ways to earn xim, as my CC never gets accepted on paypal, everywhere else fine, but PP nope. So i cant even unsocket gems.

JainFarstrider
10-10-2011, 11:30 AM
Though it may seem like NGD is not doing as well in moderating Regnum as GameSamba, keep in mind that NGD has been churning out updates recently that have revamped a lot of the gameplay, and also have been releasing new premium and non-premium features and items. Though it is the opinion of some that their evidence of work is lacking, they HAVE introduced a major graphical overhaul not too long ago, and the new forts, castles, and walls are great in presentation (some like them, some don't). They have also produced balance updates that are very fitting to the game. There are many who insist that a certain subclass is too overpowered, but much of it depends on HOW you play, not necessarily your level of skill or experience (though both do contribute greatly). GameSamba is not the one producing the updates that make Regnum the game it is today. NGD is the one hard at work. Sorry if I am veering off topic, but I am finding the posts here moving a bit into the angry side now.

In answer to the question: NGD is a company. I find myself sometimes frustrated with them too in regards to moderating the game, but they are not our servants vying to please our every gaming whim. They extended the game to North America quickly through GameSamba possibly to get more resources in the long run. I share many of the other Horus players' disappointment in the dying state of Horus. It is denied, but the fact is that the overall action rate in the server is decreasing. There needs to be a balance between the server populations. But since contributed ideal solutions from players to achieve and maintain this balance are few, it is my opinion that we should just let NGD try to sort this out.

Rob_the_knight
10-10-2011, 12:40 PM
Nice post jain. I agree with just about all of it.

Kittypretty
10-10-2011, 01:45 PM
Gamesamba recruited players as in game moderators, among other things, why NGD doesn't, i dont know. it was nice before, but they never stayed long enough, and people resumed fighting the moment they left.

That is a source anyways, but unused.

JainFarstrider
10-11-2011, 12:55 PM
Gamesamba recruited players as in game moderators, among other things, why NGD doesn't, i dont know. it was nice before, but they never stayed long enough, and people resumed fighting the moment they left.

That is a source anyways, but unused.

I never knew that Gamesamba recruited players. There was a time when you could tell when moderators came online. But the last mod I saw was 1 year ago and when reported to him this lvl 20 that kept saying he was the son of an NGD studios engineer, he told me to write it in the forums. NGD is lacking in this area. Perhaps if we presented the problem to them in the forums and take a poll we could get them to recruit some members known for their experience and responsibility. Perhaps Realms Online exists to be a standard for NGD to bulk up the moderation of the game. (Actually, nah, that's just stupid) :facepalm3:

_Seinvan
10-11-2011, 02:51 PM
Gamesamba recruited players as in game moderators, among other things, why NGD doesn't, i dont know. it was nice before, but they never stayed long enough, and people resumed fighting the moment they left.

That is a source anyways, but unused.

While these players do get forum mod privileges, their in-game powers are severely limited. They're intended to help people who have questions/concerns about the game. They aren't necessarily "moderators" :p

Plus, you get paid a minor amount of ximerin, and you "work" maybe 3 hours, 5 days a week xD

Kitsuni
10-11-2011, 03:05 PM
More moderation is not a good idea in my opinion. NGD isn't always fair enough for the task, they tend to be a little trigger-happy on the bans... I'd rather deal with cheaters and liars in the game rather than always worrying I might make one mistake and get a ban, perhaps even permanently.

Even now, this is already a risk due to bugs like the invisibility bug, even when players do absolutely nothing wrong.

If this game didn't require rediculous amounts of time, effort and money to get to level 60, it wouldn't be so bad. But there's just too much to lose in it atm.

Kittypretty
10-15-2011, 05:43 PM
true they have no real power, but they have a means to get a GM in game via communication channel, and that is enough for most issues i think.

I guess i just want some semblance of moderation in game, and first hand if possible to be able to view these bugs/abuse as they happen, and decide if its a bug or intentional, rather than a ticket sent to someone who likely has no clue, or cares about your side of the story.

meh i dont care about xim or being paid..i actually did sign up, but i had to leave for some months suddenlt so never was able to. I guess im just at a point id rather just enjoy the community than constantly play.

IF that ever happened, i doubt i'd nominate myself anyways lol. TBH i think the most likely choices in Syrtis who are decent and helpful, would be Lady of Light, and Ieti. I could prolly name a few more, but i have to think :P

_Seinvan
10-16-2011, 03:11 PM
true they have no real power, but they have a means to get a GM in game via communication channel, and that is enough for most issues i think.

I guess i just want some semblance of moderation in game, and first hand if possible to be able to view these bugs/abuse as they happen, and decide if its a bug or intentional, rather than a ticket sent to someone who likely has no clue, or cares about your side of the story.

meh i dont care about xim or being paid..i actually did sign up, but i had to leave for some months suddenlt so never was able to. I guess im just at a point id rather just enjoy the community than constantly play.

IF that ever happened, i doubt i'd nominate myself anyways lol. TBH i think the most likely choices in Syrtis who are decent and helpful, would be Lady of Light, and Ieti. I could prolly name a few more, but i have to think :P

Even with active GMs, GCs, and even video proof its still very much a pain in the ass to get someone who deserves to be banned, a ban xD

Kittypretty
10-16-2011, 07:19 PM
Yes..but currently..its too EASY to get innocent players banned..