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Rybba
10-23-2011, 02:10 PM
Hello , i m sure alsius is very happy in this days because they opened the portal 2 times in few hours , but they opened portal because noone from syrtis and ignis in online . All the time when this people from other realms in online they cant move a gem neither the enemy gate . So . .dear alsius show us u can take the gems when European ppl is online no when they sleep :))
i wish you good luck when syrtis and ignis is online !!!! Hahahaha

PT_DaAr_PT
10-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Wrong section.

NotScias
10-23-2011, 02:26 PM
v - Insert flame war below - v

NSer
10-23-2011, 02:36 PM
Hello , i m sure alsius is very happy in this days because they opened the portal 2 times in few hours , but they opened portal because noone from syrtis and ignis in online . All the time when this people from other realms in online they cant move a gem neither the enemy gate . So . .dear alsius show us u can take the gems when European ppl is online no when they sleep :))
i wish you good luck when syrtis and ignis is online !!!! Hahahaha

huh?
*goat answer*:hahahha ignis did the same some time ago so stfu!
*my answer*:wrong section (c) Daar

Mattdoesrock
10-23-2011, 03:00 PM
Mmm.... Tears.

Jippy
10-23-2011, 03:40 PM
Goatttttttttt Powaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :play_ball:

Kitsuni
10-23-2011, 03:44 PM
(I'll answer this seriously, as I assume you're being serious.)

Two times in two hours... ?

I don't know anything about this, we've opened the portal only twice in the last month. We did not invade every night, and of each invasion attempt, only some were successful. It is nothing of comparison to Ignis's nightly invasions (sometimes 2-3 invasions per night) from six months ago...

I don't really understand why reds and greens are getting all bent out of shape because they get invaded by 10-15 people max.

If we were being malignant, and constantly dishing out negative wishes, sure, but as it stands are are just acccomplishing the goal of the game, and now that the devestated state has been removed for the most part it is of absolutely no malus to other realms since we don't make negative wishes.

It doesn't even really matter, at all, the people who are on at those times simply get a hefty fight that they sometimes also win. You lose nothing of value.

We may invade@nite now but we try to be fair with our decisions because we want enemies to fight, not people leaving the game.

Llayne
10-23-2011, 03:53 PM
oh how I missed these threads
u onli infade at nite!

bois
10-23-2011, 04:22 PM
I don't understand why the cries either. I have no clue if they opened portal or not but if they did, it is no different to what Ignis did a while back. It simply is that another realm may have the resource and opportunity to do so now.
And why not, Ignis did it with a crew of roughly the same amount for a while. They did so with equivalent high failure rate and only managed to become dominant (and overbearing somewhat) when many other players from other time zones, in effort to experience invasion, stayed up late or well out of their regular zone to participate.

I don't blame any particular realm for exploiting this in the same light as I defended the 'night crew' of Ignis. I remain consistent.

We get our knocks now, no biggy.

The biggest culprit reamins the same. Not any realm but polarised realm populations to time zone and a generally weak population of the server as a whole. This occurs in some form or fashion to each realm in time zones throughout any 24 h period. Until the population gains critical mass for all time zones in all realms this will always happen.

Remember, a few complaint posts do not speak for the whole realm. This thread certainly does not speak for me. Grats on opening the portal if you did Alsius.

Lekarz
10-23-2011, 04:48 PM
I say only: Congratz Alsius :clapclap:

Finally there is real group , not lots of marxmans , locks. Physical power and conjurers sometimes.

Since NGD improved warriors I was waiting for this day, now you leads. :ohill:

_Nel_
10-23-2011, 04:57 PM
I see nothing wrong with Alsius.

Of course they invaded at night, but it's not a daily raping contest or a succession of negative wishes. I only hope they will not abuse of their new power. But I trust them, they perfectly know what it is to be in the wrong side.

Rybbamma, I see it's your first post, so don't go deeper in this kind of thread, that can end up very easily in a flame war. :)

Carn
10-23-2011, 05:02 PM
goooooooooooaaaaaaattttt powaaaaaaaaaah!!

Carn
10-23-2011, 05:17 PM
No wait .. i'm from Syrtis.

Llayne
10-24-2011, 12:15 AM
I'd like to take this opportunity for people to thank me for playing in alsius. Could probably use it's own thread or even a forum section but I am a humble guy.

Psynocide
10-24-2011, 12:21 AM
The Rage Threads.

Do want.

_Seinvan
10-24-2011, 03:41 AM
goatttttttttt powaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :play_ball:

goooooooooooaaaaaaattttt powaaaaaaaaaah!!

ggggoooooaaaaaaattttttt powaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Ulti19
10-24-2011, 05:57 AM
No wait .. i'm from Syrtis.

HahaxD

Don't worry, we will be invaded at night someday again too:)

Ro mechanics

x(bigger number) -> y(smaller number) = profit
x has bigger number for sometime
x pwns y for abit
x loses numbers eventually and y gets more
y pwns x.
and round we go^^

Kitsuni
10-25-2011, 12:36 AM
For anyone interested, this is our usual invasion forces (attached screenshot). The invasions occur mostly because the fort(s) usually don't get attacked at all. This isn't exactly ideal, but it seems past a certain time Syrtis and especially Ignis just stop fighting for forts, even if they'll get invaded.

I wouldn't say it's a numbers game, we've faced just as much (if not more) resistance from the enemy, but generally only once gate is vulnerable.

Psynocide
10-25-2011, 01:55 AM
For anyone interested, this is our usual invasion forces (attached screenshot). The invasions occur mostly because the fort(s) usually don't get attacked at all. This isn't exactly ideal, but it seems past a certain time Syrtis and especially Ignis just stop fighting for forts, even if they'll get invaded.

I wouldn't say it's a numbers game, we've faced just as much (if not more) resistance from the enemy, but generally only once gate is vulnerable.

This is essentially what anyone means by a numbers advantage.
It was the same case when Ignis used to invade nightly, the defending force would be about.. Six players, seven on a weekend - it's just the general down time for most realms.
It used to be the same for Alsius, I don't quite know where this unusual abundance of insomniacs came from :P

Kitsuni
10-25-2011, 08:01 AM
This is essentially what anyone means by a numbers advantage.
It was the same case when Ignis used to invade nightly, the defending force would be about.. Six players, seven on a weekend - it's just the general down time for most realms.
It used to be the same for Alsius, I don't quite know where this unusual abundance of insomniacs came from :P
I strongly disagree.

Tonight we had to hold Alga GC room for over 17 minutes from a superior force of greens, and each night tends to be similar, just that Alsius uses many things to their advantage and plays a bit smarter in small groups than other realms. We actually ended up defeated there, but two of us came back and suicided to keep GC alive for the last few minutes on the gate timer. Greens also almost killed us before we could finish noble, with us only surviving because of spamming Knight buffs (constant Ao1 for all).

Its just common tactics like:
- Using level four forts, letting door die and camping GC, focusing on keep it alive to buy time
- Switching to alts to guard multiple forts (fully allowed afaik...)
- Shock and awe effect - taking all forts at once and getting timer down before enemy has a chance to react properly
- Using Hunters to scout out noble before our group suicides on any campers, and developing proper tactics beforehand if there are campers.
- If you don't need noble, don't attack it, and those who don't need noble focus on protecting others and tanking all of the guards for the neccessary 30sec
- Knight spam (our favorite :p)
- Of course, only invading when enemies don't attack the fort, meaning they probably don't care to begin with

There is no numbers game going on... I don't see how you could say that after seeing my screenshot with a whole 5-6 people sitting in Samal (which was our entire force that night) just begging or someone to even attack it. It's a simple fact that 90% of the time, none of the forts that we take get attacked in the morning hours, and when they are attacked the defending realm actually tends to do fairly well, with the battle coming down to teamwork and luck. Rarely is it overkill.

I think that enemies have a tendancy to severely overestimate numbers just because they lost, as well as underestimate their own numbers. If a realm can kill a level 4 door within 30 seconds, they have enough to stop an invasion (and usually do). If they don't even try, then they obviously can't. Learn by example.

Anyway, this was not meant to be an antagonistic post, so I hope that it doesn't come off that way.

SirHiss
10-25-2011, 08:02 AM
Gratz goaties!

Anpu
10-25-2011, 08:29 AM
I don't quite know where this unusual abundance of insomniacs came from :P
Johnny Depp is responsible for keeping them awake. Blame him!

Psynocide
10-25-2011, 09:01 AM
I strongly disagree.

Tonight we had to hold Alga GC room for over 17 minutes from a superior force of greens, and each night tends to be similar, just that Alsius uses many things to their advantage and plays a bit smarter in small groups than other realms. We actually ended up defeated there, but two of us came back and suicided to keep GC alive for the last few minutes on the gate timer. Greens also almost killed us before we could finish noble, with us only surviving because of spamming Knight buffs (constant Ao1 for all).

Its just common tactics like:
- Using level four forts, letting door die and camping GC, focusing on keep it alive to buy time
- Switching to alts to guard multiple forts (fully allowed afaik...)
- Shock and awe effect - taking all forts at once and getting timer down before enemy has a chance to react properly
- Using Hunters to scout out noble before our group suicides on any campers, and developing proper tactics beforehand if there are campers.
- If you don't need noble, don't attack it, and those who don't need noble focus on protecting others and tanking all of the guards for the neccessary 30sec
- Knight spam (our favorite :p)
- Of course, only invading when enemies don't attack the fort, meaning they probably don't care to begin with

There is no numbers game going on... I don't see how you could say that after seeing my screenshot with a whole 5-6 people sitting in Samal (which was our entire force that night) just begging or someone to even attack it. It's a simple fact that 90% of the time, none of the forts that we take get attacked in the morning hours, and when they are attacked the defending realm actually tends to do fairly well, with the battle coming down to teamwork and luck. Rarely is it overkill.

I think that enemies have a tendancy to severely overestimate numbers just because they lost, as well as underestimate their own numbers. If a realm can kill a level 4 door within 30 seconds, they have enough to stop an invasion (and usually do). If they don't even try, then they obviously can't. Learn by example.

Anyway, this was not meant to be an antagonistic post, so I hope that it doesn't come off that way.


No no no.. That was a one off.
Half the time you've invaded I've been afk at the cs, only this time I was asked(kicked) to come.
Usually we have so few, we don't actually try as you stated previously in a post about how you usually have no opposition.
It's a count of players and motivation I should say rather.
Regardless, one instance does not refute my point that this was the case hundreds of times previously.
We only tried Algaros, we did not even know how many were at Eferias but I'm sure a few stayed behind to keep watch, it's the logical conclusion.
If you want to be meticulous and scrutinize over this instance, half of those in Syrtis who came where below level 45 - I counted about four 60s and several 50+ in your number.
Going by level add up, you outnumbered us - but who's to say without looking into the whole ordeal in too much depth than it warrants.

It was the same for Alsius as well during Ignis' high-time, I remember well as we tried to help you in that dire scenario.

blood-raven
10-25-2011, 09:39 AM
Half the time you've invaded I've been afk at the cs, only this time I was asked(kicked) to come.


THIS^ is what i don't get, why you waist bandwidth on a game if you just stand afk at cs?
And it's not only you, i saw some others saying "yo, going afk at cs", half a day later "yo i'm back but i can't stay much longer".
What's is the bloody point?

Psynocide
10-25-2011, 10:23 AM
What's is the bloody point?

Direct that question as to why we play.

blood-raven
10-25-2011, 10:50 AM
Direct that question as to why we play.

One plays to have fun for a while, perhaps forget his problems a bit.

Psynocide
10-25-2011, 12:29 PM
One plays to have fun for a while, perhaps forget his problems a bit.

And perhaps if said problems require immediate attention yet are not so dire as to warrant dropping your current activity you _._._ .

_Nel_
10-25-2011, 01:20 PM
...

I smell the same arrogance as Ignis in that post.
What a shame you've reached that stage. :/

blood-raven
10-25-2011, 01:48 PM
And perhaps if said problems require immediate attention yet are not so dire as to warrant dropping your current activity you _._._ .

Waist bandwidth on something you won't be doing in the next hour(s)?
Good idea.

bois
10-25-2011, 01:57 PM
As I said before, a realm get invaded because of 2 main reasons.
1. Disorganised and poor communication.
2. They don't have sufficient resources to resist.

Optionally, there can be a lack of motivation.

In the old days, it was quite common for Ignis (with its organisation and communication) to hold Algaros for quite some time with any class configuration. Indeed I have been in situations there where 3 or even 5 of us hold off versus up to 11 players for up to 30 minutes .Keep in perspective Syrtis normally did not send full compliment of level 50s to take Algaros back. It normally has been and still continue to be a mix of levels.
With the beacons and new levels, it is not as easy. With the dulling of CC via beacons you would need DPS classes to have required effect. As such, the classes you have in a war group become ever more important in battles now. With Alsius having a good complement of warriors or classes which deliver heavy DPS, they will have an advantage versus say, mage heavy armies.
Old Ignis was quite good but relied heavily on CC and debuffs (via mages) to have an effect. Indeed it was a good equaliser vs other armies. These days, with that effect dulled, many players have to change over tactics. Ignis is still in this transition phase. Added to this, our organisation level is much less due to our demilitarisation of the Realm for over 1 year now.

So, basically times change personnel change, status quo changes. We were #1 in terms of invasions and 3 hours in 24 but seriously that was all. Now the rebuilding process continues. Population is not bad but organisation and communication will need work. New leadership needs to come through. Nothing to be concerned about really.
As for claims of self destruction or in fighting, that is far , far from reality. Ignis is more free spirited than ever before. Ignis is more friendly and less trollish now than in its entire history on this server. I know. I came in when Ignis was at its worst. It is nothing like that now. The reason we struggle is that we are so free spirited and allow players to experience 'their Regnum" their way without excessive abuse about it. No longer are players generally abused for not defending or grinding etc. Free spirit sometime lead to disorganisation. I think other realms can relate to this.
One unfortunate and eventually stupid thread (Elarinya one) does not mean a realm is self destructing or in civil war. Anybody who thinks that is a stranger to the truth. Players leave players come, this is natural in any MMO. Realms rise and fall. Also natural.

Funnily enough, I can't wait to see more posts which will "instruct" Ignis (Syrtis) how to improve and become a force again even though when we Igneans did so, often with good intent, it was often perceived by others that we were Elitist, know it all, arrogant pricks. I actually got a red Karma stating this but in much more colourful language and I consider myself someone who at least tries to be balanced. Maybe others will avoid this pitfall. Kitsunie seems to be falling prey to it though. Again I respectfully suggest to temper the 'tone' of the text. Else you will fall prey the the same thing that caused you distress the last time on the forums. If you don't care then you will reap the whirlwind. Just because something happened to you on the forums does not mean that you should become the same . Take high ground if you have the strength for it. It builds character.

Maybe we should just play the game and see how it all works out this time. I am still not distressed that Alsius got themselves together. Actually I am quite pleased. Ignis will make its comeback in due course too. No hurry.

HidraA
10-25-2011, 02:10 PM
As I said before, a realm get invaded because of 2 main reasons.
1. Disorganised and poor communication.
2. They don't have sufficient resources to resist.

Optionally, there can be a lack of motivation.

In the old days, it was quite common for Ignis (with its organisation and communication) to hold Algaros for quite some time with any class configuration. Indeed I have been in situations there where 3 or even 5 of us hold off versus up to 11 players for up to 30 minutes .Keep in perspective Syrtis normally did not send full compliment of level 50s to take Algaros back. It normally has been and still continue to be a mix of levels.
With the beacons and new levels, it is not as easy.

This was because classes was by far better balanced somehow.

I remember the day when i played barbarian and 2 barbs and a conj wee was able too keep a fort vs 10 ignis.
Somehow even barbarians dmg was better balanced.I was able to make with my areas up to 1500 dmg(using a very slow weapon),and around 1200 dmg with sc.And like this dmg was kinda fair balanced,slow weapons very good dmg and slow weapons less dmg etc.That 1500 dmg from area gaveit me the option to be a massive murderer but dmg for PvP to not be so powerful.
So if you compare today.Very slow weapons and slow weapons have ~ similar dmg.And a sc is 2k dmg + and a area is that joke of 30-50 dmg ,up to 1200 dmg on mages.
Now that reverting of dmg from pvp to rvr seems somehow weird,because by far advantage pvp gameplay and not rvr gameplay.
That's happening for other classes too.Archers lots Repetion shot,that is joke,warlock lost tons of areas with massive dmg and dots spell took the place.
For warlock was the same.I remeber when Pluder killed 5 of us that was tryng to breack Samal's door,was very funny

Gabburtjuh
10-25-2011, 03:18 PM
This was because classes was by far better balanced somehow.

I remember the day when i played barbarian and 2 barbs and a conj wee was able too keep a fort vs 10 ignis.
Somehow even barbarians dmg was better balanced.I was able to make with my areas up to 1500 dmg(using a very slow weapon),and around 1200 dmg with sc.And like this dmg was kinda fair balanced,slow weapons very good dmg and slow weapons less dmg etc.That 1500 dmg from area gaveit me the option to be a massive murderer but dmg for PvP to not be so powerful.
So if you compare today.Very slow weapons and slow weapons have ~ similar dmg.And a sc is 2k dmg + and a area is that joke of 30-50 dmg ,up to 1200 dmg on mages.
Now that reverting of dmg from pvp to rvr seems somehow weird,because by far advantage pvp gameplay and not rvr gameplay.
That's happening for other classes too.Archers lots Repetion shot,that is joke,warlock lost tons of areas with massive dmg and dots spell took the place.
For warlock was the same.I remeber when Pluder killed 5 of us that was tryng to breack Samal's door,was very funny

Ehm, so you try to say that two barbs with a conj should be able to kill a full war force in 10 seconds with area's? And that that would be more balanced as it is now? Dude, what are you smoking >.>

HidraA
10-25-2011, 03:44 PM
Ehm, so you try to say that two barbs with a conj should be able to kill a full war force in 10 seconds with area's? And that that would be more balanced as it is now? Dude, what are you smoking >.>

Nope i told that the game fall from a extreme to other,if before extreme dmg was in areas ,now is in pvp and lots of areas are useless ....your extrated from text that you wanted to extract or you are brainless.

Gabburtjuh
10-25-2011, 04:41 PM
You said it was by far better balanced, so what about me asking if you thought that was a better balance as now did I extract from what I wanted to think and not what I read?

HidraA
10-25-2011, 04:46 PM
I wanted to think and not what I read?
Yes you wanted to think,unfortunaly you were not capable....
Maybe you go back to aggers to afk dancing at aggers?anyway it's the only skill that you have.

Gabburtjuh
10-25-2011, 04:58 PM
Yes you wanted to think,unfortunaly you were not capable....
Maybe you go back to aggers to afk dancing at aggers?anyway it's the only skill that you have.

Stop misquoting me and talking bs and explain your posts plz, you never made much sense but now you're not even trying to, you just misquote my posts and try to talk yourself a way out of a stupid post

ieti
10-25-2011, 05:44 PM
Grats goats! :clapclap:

P.S. Please stop upgrading forts to level 4. You are strong enough to fight without this. Please come to Herbred more often too.

Tigerious
10-25-2011, 09:32 PM
Alsians got tons of robots too !
Do they pay enough ximerins to satisfy NGD ?

Anyway, enjoy your force while you can goats !
As far as I know each Realms have its turn.

trulyem
10-26-2011, 12:52 AM
Hello , i m sure alsius is very happy in this days because they opened the portal 2 times in few hours , but they opened portal because noone from syrtis and ignis in online . All the time when this people from other realms in online they cant move a gem neither the enemy gate . So . .dear alsius show us u can take the gems when European ppl is online no when they sleep :))
i wish you good luck when syrtis and ignis is online !!!! Hahahaha

RA? If yes, LOL!.

Psynocide
10-26-2011, 01:46 AM
Waist bandwidth on something you won't be doing in the next hour(s)?
Good idea.

Now let me tell you what I don't get.
Why does it annoy you so much?
I've never understood why people get so much rage over afkers.
Is it the illusion of having less in numbers than you genuinely do? Would you feel better if we just logged out? Because the scenario wouldn't change, we're playing or we're not regardless of being logged in and my waste of bandwidth isn't exactly inhibiting your ability to play so I'm afraid I don't see the problem.

Beaker
10-26-2011, 03:53 AM
Alsians got tons of robots too !
Do they pay enough ximerins to satisfy NGD ?

:facepalm3:

mute
10-26-2011, 07:19 AM
I've never understood why people get so much rage over afkers.


Just because standing AFK at the save sucks.

For example, I hate it if I die at Samal, ressurect and see many people AFK at the save. They should either log out or fight with us...

And more I hate the people who are always complaining that Ignis is too weak... For example yesterday we had about 25 gelfs at Samal. Many Ignis people complained we don't have enough people to fight against the gelfs. But then after I motivated some people we went into the battle and after the first gelfs died we managed to get our fort back quickly.

Psynocide
10-26-2011, 07:30 AM
Just because standing AFK at the save sucks.

For example, I hate it if I die at Samal, ressurect and see many people AFK at the save. They should either log out or fight with us...

Is there a difference between being genuinely afk and logged off?
Short answer is no.
So essentially you're getting irritated because other players are doing something other than playing at certain times.
I don't like to pull the life card but..

Mattdoesrock
10-26-2011, 10:35 AM
Just because standing AFK at the save sucks.

For example, I hate it if I die at Samal, ressurect and see many people AFK at the save. They should either log out or fight with us...

I couldn't agree more. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6071VMHRbu8)

blood-raven
10-26-2011, 11:15 AM
Now let me tell you what I don't get.
Why does it annoy you so much?


Let's get it very clear for ya.

Location: cs, population: 30 players
Player A yells "hey, let's take a fort and kill ignis/goats and have fun \o/".
Player B-C-D-E-F-...: not responding.

Location: cs, population: 30 players
Player A yells:"hey, come help at herb, we're getting farmed".
Player B-C-D-E-F-...: not responding.

I hope you see how much "fun" it is for those who actually want to do something in game to see a whole bunch of ppl being useless.

And for the record: if you think you're the only one with a life, when i'm bussy with living, i don't play (din't think of that din't ya?).

Nekudotayim
10-26-2011, 11:16 AM
I couldn't agree more. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6071VMHRbu8)

The evil Ignis rock is with you.

Psynocide
10-27-2011, 02:21 AM
Let's get it very clear for ya.

Location: cs, population: 30 players
Player A yells "hey, let's take a fort and kill ignis/goats and have fun \o/".
Player B-C-D-E-F-...: not responding.

Location: cs, population: 30 players
Player A yells:"hey, come help at herb, we're getting farmed".
Player B-C-D-E-F-...: not responding.

I hope you see how much "fun" it is for those who actually want to do something in game to see a whole bunch of ppl being useless.

And for the record: if you think you're the only one with a life, when i'm bussy with living, i don't play (din't think of that din't ya?).

No.. What I didn't think of was that you'd miss the point entirely, instead choosing to focus on a potential implication that you have no life. :facepalm:
Could you please pay attention to the subject at hand instead of a suggested aspersion? (Oh the humanity..)

I'll put it in simple terms for you.
If one needs to afk, you can do one of two things.
A: Log off.
B: Afk.

There is no difference between a genuinely afk player and one that is logged off.
Either way if a player is afk and doing something else you have no reason to get irritated solely for the fact that they didn't deign to log off.
Personally I afk instead of logging off because I know I'll return at some point and would rather not have to go through the rigmarole of logging back in again unnecessarily.
I can understand why you would get angry but it's still unreasonable.

I'll give you a hypothetical example.
You just log in at the central save and it is only you and I, except I happen to be afk having needed to either: Post a letter, walk my dog, get a drink or take a shit.
You ask me if I would like to hunt with you and I of course fail to respond.
Now, are you getting angry because I'm taking a shit instead of playing or is it that there is no confirmation that I am actually afk?

I remember a certain other MMO where if a player were to remain inactive for more than 10 minutes, a sign would appear above their head informing other players that this person is afk - would you like a system like this?
Or does it annoy you due to the minority that only partially afk, for instance aren't able to play reliably incase they have to drop the activity suddenly but are still able to monitor the screen incase anyone asks them a question?

Ulti19
10-27-2011, 04:33 AM
Why get mad at an afk player? sometimes gotta pick a phonecall, or answer door, or check food if ur playing and doing something irl and instead of logging and relogging u afk.

Yelling at cs afk players heeeelpppppp!!!! and getting mad at them is the same as they aren't there to fight to begin with. Better afk and come back whenever you want or can than log in and out imo:p

Funny topic actually, why ppl care if someone afk, it's jus as if they aren't playing at the moment, who cares xD

blood-raven
10-27-2011, 03:33 PM
when u just got ganked by grind killers or got zerged somewhere near and you want revenge, you can't cause an entire zerg is being useless, frustration is the answer to your question.

Psynocide
10-27-2011, 03:39 PM
it's jus as if they aren't playing at the moment, who cares xD

Case and point :)

when u just got ganked by grind killers or got zerged somewhere near and you want revenge, you can't cause an entire zerg is being useless, frustration is the answer to your question.

I thought so.
Frustration would come under unreasonable motivation.
Also, revenge is petty.

Rybba
10-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Hello , yes its a first post because i m not a "fighter in words" , and my english isnt very good, so just i want to exprime a idea because i was online when that happening, i mean in 2h alsius have both gem from ignis and if u can imaginate what i will tell you , u will see why i posted that , so : Alsius capture Trelle and Shanna, gate vulnerable , .... gate down , alsius have first gem ( appare on the map ) and after that .... a whole course whit gem all the map until alsius altar. No fight , no enemy to stop .... nothing. Ok, that was first gem , the story with second .... read again :) .
That was my idea , i dont wanna fight or speaking ... just for speaking . I want to present this idea , in that invasion , alsius didnt fight ... ok , ignis fault because isnt online .... diffrence hours from Europe . No matter , we dont win nothing its just a game.
Anyway developers want make Regnum Online a barbarian world ... Then i will stop to play ...Now barbarien have 2 weapon .... missing a sniper and some trick to fly and ... that will be NO 1 :)) Have a nice day

Rybba
10-28-2011, 09:51 AM
huh?
*goat answer*:hahahha ignis did the same some time ago so stfu!
*my answer*:wrong section (c) Daar
And if ignis did the same ... let s play without enemy ....
"green answer"

Rybba
10-28-2011, 10:11 AM
Ehm, so you try to say that two barbs with a conj should be able to kill a full war force in 10 seconds with area's? And that that would be more balanced as it is now? Dude, what are you smoking >.>

hahahhaha ... like i say : a world for barbarian , just for they :)))
Dude, what are you smoking , - good question

Rybba
10-28-2011, 10:14 AM
Just because standing AFK at the save sucks.

For example, I hate it if I die at Samal, ressurect and see many people AFK at the save. They should either log out or fight with us...

And more I hate the people who are always complaining that Ignis is too weak... For example yesterday we had about 25 gelfs at Samal. Many Ignis people complained we don't have enough people to fight against the gelfs. But then after I motivated some people we went into the battle and after the first gelfs died we managed to get our fort back quickly.

You have right with this AFK ppl , they stay looged just for make lag :)

Psynocide
10-28-2011, 10:19 AM
Hello , yes its a first post because i m not a "fighter in words" , and my english isnt very good, so just i want to exprime a idea because i was online when that happening, i mean in 2h alsius have both gem from ignis and if u can imaginate what i will tell you , u will see why i posted that , so : Alsius capture Trelle and Shanna, gate vulnerable , .... gate down , alsius have first gem ( appare on the map ) and after that .... a whole course whit gem all the map until alsius altar. No fight , no enemy to stop .... nothing. Ok, that was first gem , the story with second .... read again :) .
That was my idea , i dont wanna fight or speaking ... just for speaking . I want to present this idea , in that invasion , alsius didnt fight ... ok , ignis fault because isnt online .... diffrence hours from Europe . No matter , we dont win nothing its just a game.
Anyway developers want make Regnum Online a barbarian world ... Then i will stop to play ...Now barbarien have 2 weapon .... missing a sniper and some trick to fly and ... that will be NO 1 :)) Have a nice day

I'm making an effort to break this down into understandable structured sentences and I won't lie, it's quite difficult but you do see to have one valid point.
Firstly, this is usually how invasions work - it's common sense to invade a realm when its trousers are down so to speak, it happens and every realm is guilty of exploiting this tactic but it's not something to be ashamed of.
Secondly, it's not worth getting worked up over this, if you really can't stand being outnumbered I suggest you play at a different time if possible.
You have a slight point on the barbarian issue though, they do seem to be getting a lot of unnecessary positive attention - other classes such as hunters and warlocks are in definite need of some TLC, I'm going to assume NGD intend to work on them at some time after which things won't seem quite so unbalanced.

On a side note, your English is alright - certainly better than my appalling knowledge of any other language besides my first and only xD - the more you use it the more you'll learn.

standistortion
10-28-2011, 10:29 AM
Imho, when ignis where carrying out nightly invasions they where exploiting a weakness and using the wishes to impose penalties on other realms was insulting. Many in ignis complained about this unsporting conduct and many players quit the game on account of it, if alsius behaves in the same way I will be forced to quit until its over, I wont be part of a realm that behaves without honor.

As things stand this is my only option, I would suggest the members of a realm should be able to ban a player from the realm if the majority wish it. There would be little penalty in having outcasts attackable by all and (exept for invasions) restricted to the wz. If this where implemented there should also be a system to allow the realm to recruit them if the majority wish, either to any realm or only to their original realm.

Rybba
10-28-2011, 10:38 AM
I'm making an effort to break this down into understandable structured sentences and I won't lie, it's quite difficult but you do see to have one valid point.
Firstly, this is usually how invasions work - it's common sense to invade a realm when its trousers are down so to speak, it happens and every realm is guilty of exploiting this tactic but it's not something to be ashamed of.
Secondly, it's not worth getting worked up over this, if you really can't stand being outnumbered I suggest you play at a different time if possible.
You have a slight point on the barbarian issue though, they do seem to be getting a lot of unnecessary positive attention - other classes such as hunters and warlocks are in definite need of some TLC, I'm going to assume NGD intend to work on them at some time after which things won't seem quite so unbalanced.

On a side note, your English is alright - certainly better than my appalling knowledge of any other language besides my first and only xD - the more you use it the more you'll learn.

Thank you for your good words, i try to learn more but i dont like to type wrong and that s the reason for no use forum. I have many to say but im not sure on my english gramatich so ... i try to do my best. Now i learn spanish :)
I suggest you play at a different time if possible - i wish but activity in RO is when i must go to sleep and then is very very late for me ( i mean 01-02 night) and i work in the morning :)
About hunter char ..... NGD killed us, i play 99% from my time on this char ... Someone told me if i want to not be killed by barbar to stay far away from him :)) how can i do that if one conju give me preaking ivy and barbarian come with horn of the wind and he hit 2346 dmg ?? My HP is 2960 ... ONE STEP KILL !! because conju do it some dmg with his stopping spell. All i can say is : THANK YOU NGD FOR " BALLANCE GAME" .
One of my arrow with cold blood can do it max 800 dmg , and this on a low lvl . My dmg in barbarian lvl 60 ( like me ) is ... - 300.

bois
10-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Imho, when ignis where carrying out nightly invasions they where exploiting a weakness and using the wishes to impose penalties on other realms was insulting. Many in ignis complained about this unsporting conduct and many players quit the game on account of it, if alsius behaves in the same way I will be forced to quit until its over, I wont be part of a realm that behaves without honor.

As things stand this is my only option, I would suggest the members of a realm should be able to ban a player from the realm if the majority wish it. There would be little penalty in having outcasts attackable by all and (exept for invasions) restricted to the wz. If this where implemented there should also be a system to allow the realm to recruit them if the majority wish, either to any realm or only to their original realm.

Unfortunately, Ignis also had another issue from Invading every night, they broke the system of the few wishes. In the very early days of invasions, you could choose the same wish over and over and as such Ignis gave itself +XP every time. The problem was that Ignis would have XP boost stacked on XP boost. This was not in the best interest of the game or NGD pockets.
So, NGD changed it. No longer could you choose the same reward every time. However, Ignis still continued to invade regularly and as such ran out of wishes quickly. In many cases Ignis was almost forced to go for -XP or - gold justs to get the positive wishes to become available again. This was not the case every time as I have witnessed Igneans choosing to give -XP to a specific realm rather than -gold. Note that this was only done after Ignis positive wishes was not available.
If Ignis really wanted to punish the other realms you think it could not be much much worse ? The opposing realms could have been permanently on -XP and -gold the way Ignis was invading. The formula was this generally :
1. +XP Ignis
2. + gold Ignis
3. either negative gold to a realm or go for draconic gem. Because of the issues around it , draconic gem was not really a popular choice.
4. -XP for opposing realm.

So a matter of honour or despotism does not arise. The system simply was not designed for repeated and excessive invasions/ portal openings. The only issue was that Ignis could have chosen not to invade and just farm the forts at times. Unfortunately, at those hours, the under manned realms could not give a shit to come to a fort and fight unless the realm was vulnerable. I can't count how many times a regular fort war type thing turned into an invasion because of no resistance.
This is just my perspective as a player that has seen the variation of Ignean invasions from the inception to the present day. You can feel free to disagree.
Keep in mind this is no excuse as I have opted out of many invasions or even entering portal to vote because of my personal position on some of the events, both internal to Ignis and external. This is just my take on invasions as a whole that I have seen or participated in. Both sides should be ventilated in a balanced way.

blood-raven
10-30-2011, 10:51 AM
I thought so.
Frustration would come under unreasonable motivation.
Also, revenge is petty.

Don't talk such bs, lags and crashes only cause frustration aswell, but let's not fix them cause "frustration is an unreasonable motivation".
And the revenge is about sportsmanship, don't play games if you don't get that or dont like sportsmanship.

magic_gandalf_007
11-02-2011, 07:01 PM
Real funny to read this thread.
Quite cool all people cheering for their mates in RA.

... want to see the alsius invasions or attempts .... every saturday and sunday (mornings european time) when Alsius outnumbers the other realms by far ..... although quite funny to see 20 extra completely useless lazy guards doing nothing at a gate that is being attacked. :D
... bummer is the number of buggers

Psynocide
11-02-2011, 07:04 PM
And the revenge is about sportsmanship

Firstly this is a game not a sport.
Secondly you've got that ALL fucked up mate lmfao.

To act on revenge is to retaliate, retaliation is for children that don't know any better.

Kyrottimus
11-02-2011, 08:16 PM
Revenge is a dish best served with Cajun spices xD

EMIN
11-15-2011, 05:04 PM
I can believe that ignis say that when they did planned midnight invansions(gay) when noone was on........So stfu and think before you post something......................................... .................................................. ............................................

My grats to Daar and lekarz bcuz they play face-to-face and not like sissies.Horus needs more ppl than this for real fights
regards
Reble