The rules of RO?

[Archonaut]

Does anyone have a link of the Big RO Rule Book, I wan't to see if you actually can get perma ban after first time of trying to sell account. Can anyone link me the rules? Or where I can find them.

[Darcyeti]

3.- User registration
[...]
Once registered, the user will have a username and access password that will authorize the access to his user account. The participation in REGNUM ONLINE and/or the Site is exclusively personal for each user, therefore said person may only use his/hers username and password, and no other person may use it. The registered user will assume the obligations to keep and custody his/her username and password, and must immediately inform NGD STUDIOS should the same have lost their confidentiality condition, and/or in case it was used by a third party. In case the password should be forgotten or lost, NGD STUDIOS will reserve the right to request real identity verification of the requesting user, as requirement for the generation of a new password.
It will also be the responsibility of each user to keep the personal information stated in the registration updated as may be necessary, and must communicate each time changes in the relation thereto may take place.
NGD STUDIOS may reject any registration request, or cancel a previously accepted registration, without having to justify said decision, and this will not generate any right whatsoever for the user.

[Cuchulainn]

Point 14 "Termination of the service" second paragraph is also important.

You should see the rules, when you open your client. If you open the client the usual way, you have to accept these rules.

NGD STUDIOS may[...]temporarily suspend or definitely deactivate the account of a user, without any prior notice to him/her[...]

[Archonaut]

3.- User registration
[...]
Once registered, the user will have a username and access password that will authorize the access to his user account. The participation in REGNUM ONLINE and/or the Site is exclusively personal for each user, therefore said person may only use his/hers username and password, and no other person may use it. The registered user will assume the obligations to keep and custody his/her username and password, and must immediately inform NGD STUDIOS should the same have lost their confidentiality condition, and/or in case it was used by a third party. In case the password should be forgotten or lost, NGD STUDIOS will reserve the right to request real identity verification of the requesting user, as requirement for the generation of a new password.
It will also be the responsibility of each user to keep the personal information stated in the registration updated as may be necessary, and must communicate each time changes in the relation thereto may take place.
NGD STUDIOS may reject any registration request, or cancel a previously accepted registration, without having to justify said decision, and this will not generate any right whatsoever for the user.

Yes it says sharing, I'm talking about trading and can I ask you where you got this from lol?

[Darcyeti]

if you are not allowed to share an account, you can't trade him either, it's just another kind of sharing.

You accept it everytime you log in, it's all written in the launcher.

[Archonaut]

if you are not allowed to share an account, you can't trade him either, it's just another kind of sharing.

You accept it everytime you log in, it's all written in the launcher.

Its defenitely not the same, trading a character means giving one your account of one's other.. Totally different from sharing, when you share an account you both use the same account..

[Darcyeti]

If you sell an account, there are (maybe for a short time but still) 2 persons who have access to that account, so they share it until pw is changed.

btw:

5.2 REGNUM ONLINE software client
[...]
d) Personal use
The commercial use of REGNUM ONLINE software is prohibited. The user may only use the software for his/her own entertainment. The user agrees that he/she is the only responsible for the use of the REGNUM ONLINE software through his user name and password.

Just read through the Terms and stop complaining about being punished for something forbidden.

[_Kharbon_]

I think it's quite obvious from the launcher eula. Accounts cannot be sold. Players have been banned for this before.

[Torcida]

Why is selling a account Forbidden in the first place if I may ask?

[Kitsuni]

Account selling is a personal transaction... just don't get NGD involved and you won't get banned, simple as that. Its not like they sit in an office all day looking for reasons to ban people and reduce their income. But if you say "hey guys, I sold my acct"...

Well, think about that for a minute. :p

[Arafails]

Isn't this point moot? I mean... If you've sold your account, which is your only account, because you're a rule abiding person and only have one account, then what are they banning?

[Kitsuni]

Isn't this point moot? I mean... If you've sold your account, which is your only account, because you're a rule abiding person and only have one account, then what are they banning?
The stuff about only having one account was removed completely from the new EULA.

They ban for account sharing because it creates too many support issues that waste NGD's time. Personally, I would never share my account with anyone except my wife, not even friends because you don't know how much you can trust them.

Technically selling an account is an extension of sharing, because NGD can't know for sure you won't try to log into it again.

[Archonaut]

Just read through the Terms and stop complaining about being punished for something forbidden.

Lol? Or you could just not click on this thread? Really that hard?

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The stuff about only having one account was removed completely from the new EULA.

They ban for account sharing because it creates too many support issues that waste NGD's time. Personally, I would never share my account with anyone except my wife, not even friends because you don't know how much you can trust them.

Technically selling an account is an extension of sharing, because NGD can't know for sure you won't try to log into it again.

Well this makes kind of sence.. I still don't fully agree but well, what can I do about. I guess I have to kiss my 12k xim and my pretty Hunter farewell.

[Torcida]

This is complete nonsense, Why ban people for selling their account? Horus already doesn't have that many players and instead of focussing on important business you perma-ban active users for this nonsense? Why does it bother NGD so much that people sometimes sell their account? In what way does this damage their company? If you take a close look at it it has only positive results also for NGD 1 unhappy player sells his account for a character that he wants very badly, what will this player do with the character he just bought? Lvl it, (boosters) the same counts for the other player. If NGD could only give a solid reason why selling accounts should be illegal.

[Darcyeti]

Why may it be forbidden to sell something you don't own?

Just think about it, maybe you'll get the answer by yourself.

[Archonaut]

Why may it be forbidden to sell something you don't own?

Just think about it, maybe you'll get the answer by yourself.

Something that is not yours? For the hours you've spend leveling that character and all the money you've paid for it? How can it NOT be yours??

[Regnum_Online]

Soemthing that is not yours? For the hours you've spend leveling that character and all the money you've paid for it? How can it NOT be yours??

In the end, it's all data stored on NGD's server. If NGD somehow shut down, you don't get to keep your character. There's nothing you own in this game.

The terms of service were pointed out in the first post of this thread. There's nothing to argue here, you broke the rules and got banned. Even if you didn't read them, common sense says selling accounts will get you banned in pretty much any game.

And here it is again in the ToS:

The commercial use of REGNUM ONLINE software is prohibited. The user may only use the software for his/her own entertainment. The user agrees that he/she is the only responsible for the use of the REGNUM ONLINE software through his user name and password.

[Torcida]

common sense says selling accounts will get you banned in pretty much any game.

And here it is again in the ToS:

Seems that you haven't played many games, I have and I can declare your statement nonsense.

[Archonaut]

The terms of service were pointed out in the first post of this thread. There's nothing to argue here, you broke the rules and got banned. Even if you didn't read them, common sense says selling accounts will get you banned in pretty much any game.

And here it is again in the ToS:

Then again, he wasn't trying to sell it for money.. He wanted to TRADE the account for one of his chars. In my opinion those are 2 completely different things..

[Regnum_Online]

Seems that you haven't played many games, I have and I can declare your statement nonsense.

Name a game where the developer ALLOWS you to sell your account.

Regardless of whether you were selling or trading the account, it was exchanging hands to another person, and that's against the Terms of Service. You were banned for breaking the rules. It all boils down to the same thing.

[Eyfura]

I know someone who got his accounts banned because he bought someone else's account. Tho that was some time ago, before they released new EULA. Still, I'm all against account selling.
This is god damn MMORPG game. You create your character, you chose your gender, race and how you look, you chose your name. You grind, get lvl60 and wm, get rp from wars. When you are high you can proudly say you did it all by yourself. It's your virtual identity, no matter how much you actually role play, but it is still you behind the screen.

Some of you might now think I'm fanatic, but after all that's your opinion and this is mine.

And BTW, I know at least 3 cases where account sharing led to get robbed. It might be hard to believe your the best and trusted real life friend could do that but it's always possible.

[Torcida]

Name a game where the developer ALLOWS you to sell your account.

Regardless of whether you were selling or trading the account, it was exchanging hands to another person, and that's against the Terms of Service. You were banned for breaking the rules. It all boils down to the same thing.

First of all im not the person banned, Second if we are talking about Selling accounts in the way of I give you my 50 hunter for your 50 warlock then almost every game allows that.

[Regnum_Online]

First of all im not the person banned, Second if we are talking about Selling accounts in the way of I give you my 50 hunter for your 50 warlock then almost every game allows that.

Then name one. No reputable game developers will allow you to sell or trade your account; and even on the offchance you find some small irrelevant game that does, NGD does not, which is the point of this thread. Archonaut was banned because he broke NGD's Terms of Service, and was punished for it.

[Frosk]

I don't think that there's much left to argue here, considering the previous answers and the content of the thread itself.

I'll close this.

Regards! :thumb: