Balance

[TheMessenger]

New image thread for rage :D

Post your epic (im)balance/fail screenies

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/screenshot2011120723132.jpg

[NotScias]

Pic doesn't show.
Right link for your pic :
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/234/screenshot2011120723132.jpg

Anyways it's more like a luck fail than a balance issue (unless he roared you from the Zimbabwe, which happens quite often...) here else there'd be some 2k normals and a MS at least.

[TheMessenger]

Pic doesn't show.
Right link for your pic :
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/234/screenshot2011120723132.jpg

Anyways it's more like a luck fail than a balance issue (unless he roared you from the Zimbabwe, which happens quite often...) here else there'd be some 2k normals and a MS at least.

Could be argued either way :p

Luck fail for obvious reason but also a balance issue because barbs can get 5-6hits in under kick 5, have the fastest speed, as well as have no drawbacks of using Berserk. lol@-evade.

[_Enio_]

lol noob.
You let urself get caught in raor. Greedy with DF? Why you complain if you get caught in roar, you should be dead anyways.

And, what weird config are you playing there? What lvl?

Dont get me wrong but its hilarious to complain about getting killd when let you get roard early on fight. Resists wouldve saved you there but only cause that barb wasnt quite aware what to do. Kick+normal+fulm+2xnorm+3rd norm while getting up or spiritual lets you drop dead. Its a fact. Not even SoW running xP nothing to blame but you there!

[TheMessenger]

lol noob.
You let urself get caught in raor. Greedy with DF? Why you complain if you get caught in roar, you should be dead anyways.

And, what weird config are you playing there? What lvl?

Dont get me wrong but its hilarious to complain about getting killd when let you get roard early on fight. Resists wouldve saved you there but only cause that barb wasnt quite aware what to do. Kick+normal+fulm+2xnorm+3rd norm while getting up or spiritual lets you drop dead. Its a fact. Not even SoW running xP nothing to blame but you there!

"if you get caught in roar, you should be dead anyways."
yea, nice balance there :facepalm3:

I am lvl 60. Of course the config is weird unless you, or someone you know. uses it as well.

Complain about getting killed? I don't care about getting killed, I care about how I was killed. 2 resists is why I died. Btw, that might not have killed me either, I could have just low profiled on the way up+retaled+WSed.Try again.

For you to always be called such a great marks I would expect you to not give such narrow/close-minded answers.

"Resists wouldve saved you"
"Not even SoW running xP nothing to blame but you there"

Contradicting much? Resists could have saved me from dying, but then you say nothing to blame but myself. So resists aren't to blame at all? Cause that is what you said like 2/3 sentences before telling me I should just blame myself.


Why would I waste SotW when I know other syrtis are probably coming across pb as well since we were killing them at samal? Not only that but I didn't need to use it. I knew I wouldn't die from 1 knock and I already knew I would just CC him when I got up. There was no 100% reason to use SotW, I was trying to save it until I needed it for sure. I never would have had to use it if he didn't resist.

Your post sounds like one a cocky bitch, who thinks he is so good that the way he thinks is the way everyone should think and the way he does things is the best way to do it, would give.

Also, "Greedy with DF", should I be sorry that I would rather not kite a barb because
1. It is boring
2. He will just turn around and run

I'd rather fight and die then play like a bitch. I know most people don't like to play like that though :rolleyes2:



Edit: P.S. this thread was not made for just this image. It is made for any type of image that shows class imbalance or just fail. Lrn2rd

[_Enio_]

"if you get caught in roar, you should be dead anyways."
yea, nice balance there :facepalm3:

I am lvl 60. Of course the config is weird unless you, or someone you know. uses it as well.

Complain about getting killed? I don't care about getting killed, I care about how I was killed. 2 resists is why I died. Btw, that might not have killed me either, I could have just low profiled on the way up+retaled+WSed.Try again.

For you to always be called such a great marks I would expect you to not give such narrow/close-minded answers.

"Resists wouldve saved you"
"Not even SoW running xP nothing to blame but you there"

Contradicting much? Resists could have saved me from dying, but then you say nothing to blame but myself. So resists aren't to blame at all? Cause that is what you said like 2/3 sentences before telling me I should just blame myself.


Why would I waste SotW when I know other syrtis are probably coming across pb as well since we were killing them at samal? Not only that but I didn't need to use it. I knew I wouldn't die from 1 knock and I already knew I would just CC him when I got up. There was no 100% reason to use SotW, I was trying to save it until I needed it for sure. I never would have had to use it if he didn't resist.

Your post sounds like one a cocky bitch, who thinks he is so good that the way he thinks is the way everyone should think and the way he does things is the best way to do it, would give.

Also, "Greedy with DF", should I be sorry that I would rather not kite a barb because
1. It is boring
2. He will just turn around and run

I'd rather fight and die then play like a bitch. I know most people don't like to play like that though :rolleyes2:



Edit: P.S. this thread was not made for just this image. It is made for any type of image that shows class imbalance or just fail. Lrn2rd
Lol well you show that youre a dick. Anyways, listen:

First: When you get roar in, you should expect to die. If it is kick 5 + buffed + fulm or if you eat the 90% chance of ROTE(5) doesnt really matter. Just eat it, roar = death to be expected. Balanced or not - its what we have today, and you should know that if you consider yourself as somewhat familiar with ro. So really, stfu on that one.

2nd: Those resists are annoying, yes. My point was that its hilarious to complain about resists leading to death when previously allowing to get caught in a roar. It just Is funny.

3rd: SoW running to prevent roar. Why "waste" it? To not die to roar. If SoW wouldve failed you couldve done all right and still get caught. That wouldve been a far better reason to get pissd on the forums and post a screen about it. Here you just ran into range 10, got roar, luckily survived it and cry about followup resists. Totally fine to do so, but be ready to get laughd at when you present it to public like this.

Lastly: "For you to always be called such a great marks I would expect you to not give such narrow/close-minded answers."

Well, at least i can pinpoint your failure, which you failed at.
You couldve made that a "lol hilarious resists makin my day"-thread, but you had to take it to a serious level by labelling it "(im)balance. In effect just made you look noobish. o/

[Kitsuni]

I think you should both calm down a bit.

Both of you have made valid points, recognize that instead of arguing with each other.

P.S. I probably would not have kited the barb either. As a warrior too I hate kiting and thus on my marks I would rather go for the thrill rather than the kill. Besides, its that much better when you win by not relying on a (imo broken) game mechanic.

Besides, we all know about the effectiveness of barb CC by this point... (suddenly this explodes into a barb whine thread).

[jesus2]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/screenshot2011120623360.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/screenshot2011102817542.jpg/
1)Barbs imbalance

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/screenshot2011103017470.jpg/
2)Hunter (or better personal hunter) suckness to defeat a skilled barb ;)

Got a few more pics with barb imbalances but I dont want to become boring and obsessed bout it.I'm sure all of u have experienced smt like that hehe

P.S:Wb Raely and whoever came back latelly in game, always a pleasure seeing old farts playin the game ;)

[Narzoul]

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9500/screenshot2011120723243.jpg

Just a regular day playing a knight.

[Tigerious]

--> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7332/screenshot2011021900103.jpg

[Psynocide]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.

Luck is a BiTcH.

[Southbound]

P.S:Wb Raely and whoever came back latelly in game, always a pleasure seeing old farts playin the game ;)

+1
And Raely was always a favourite/hate enemy of mine! A really good barb who was almost impossible to win against!!


Edit: Nvm...

[Mashu]

--> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7332/screenshot2011021900103.jpg

--> Tigerious your 60lvl fail (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8400/screenshot2011120920280.jpg)

[Tigerious]

--> Tigerious your 60lvl fail (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8400/screenshot2011120920280.jpg)

Nice fake screenshot, never got that many damages from anyone :] try again !

[Raindance]

Nice fake screenshot, never got that many damages from anyone :] try again !

Ahhhh right... constant MW's n' FS's... mkay.

[Psynocide]

Tiger, what have I told you about giving out free hatorade? You're riling up the kids.

[Gabburtjuh]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/screenshot2011121016195.jpg/
jaja balance

[TheMessenger]

Epic balance

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/screenshot2011121010473.jpg/

(I am fully buffed btw, I have 374 base AP all armor good/v good vs pierce/slash)

[71175]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/screenshot2011121016195.jpg/
jaja balance

Yea give Dutch moar damage plz... 1300 normal is sooooo low for barb :P
P. S. he said me that he hadn't seen you hitting him with SC->fail :P

[lunedor]

One more with barbs

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/screenshot2011120817172.jpg/

He just came outdoor at herb

[_Emin_]

One more with barbs

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/screenshot2011120817172.jpg/

He just came outdoor at herb

I'm wondering why you skill Sudden Strike lv 4 oO

[Gabburtjuh]

Yea give Dutch moar damage plz... 1300 normal is sooooo low for barb :P
P. S. he said me that he hadn't seen you hitting him with SC->fail :P

Screenie was kinda bad, didn't have enough time to take, fulm already ran out cuz you were frozen and 1 hit down there was a 1,9k crit on some mage, without fulm to.

[lunedor]

I'm wondering why you skill Sudden Strike lv 4 oO

because I found more useful to put 4 points here than in some other skills last time I changed my build :D

[Kitsuni]

I'm wondering why you skill Sudden Strike lv 4 oO
I used to think pointing up Sudden strike was noobish, but with all the insane damage reductions these days you need debuffs to last as long as possible to ensure that you get the kill, especially during wars where it can force a person to ask for a dispel (thus wasting its CD for something more useful).

Although I've all but dropped Tricks on my Marks. Too much DI and beacons everywhere now.

[_Emin_]

I used to think pointing up Sudden strike was noobish, but with all the insane damage reductions these days you need debuffs to last as long as possible to ensure that you get the kill, especially during wars where it can force a person to ask for a dispel (thus wasting its CD for something more useful).

Although I've all but dropped Tricks on my Marks. Too much DI and beacons everywhere now.

20 sec is enough. Well 35 sec duration with 40 CD sounds good but don't see the point to put it higher while 20/40 is nice on lv 1.
I didn't mean lv 4 was noobish, but it's waste of points, imo

[trulyem]

Epic balance

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/screenshot2011121010473.jpg/

(I am fully buffed btw, I have 374 base AP all armor good/v good vs pierce/slash)

That is not fully buffed, no escapist. And your screenshots are all with fulminating. Anything else?

P.S. sometimes you gotta stop acting like your god and use the range. The god mode of archer era is over now. Just letting you know

[Archonaut]

That is not fully buffed, no escapist. And your screenshots are all with fulminating. Anything else?


It's as far as I know, escapist is counted as an immunity skill not a buff. Maybe that's just me..

[71175]

It's as far as I know, escapist is counted as an immunity skill not a buff. Maybe that's just me..

escapist is evasion buff. Your cap.
low profile is sanctuary. Same cap.

[ayexeyen_]

Nice fake screenshot, never got that many damages from anyone :] try again !

It seem not a fake:
http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/6134b5c/

The method make appear brighter the manipulations, but in this case also the borders of some written.
Looking carefully at the part where there is the 3k damage it is possible to see that it's blue (not red bright), this is a
proof of "not manipulation". For the part with the name instead it is possible to see that the background match.
Moreover all the "not yellow" written are red in the analyzed image.

No, it has not been manipulated.

Maybe that hit make you lost your memory.

[bgeorgalas]

didn't see that coming....