current state of warlock (video)

[esp_tupac]

this is a video i want to squeeze in before the new major update which will redefine the way ppl play once again. u know to keep record of things :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-xkx3wk4w&feature=channel_video_title

thank you and merry early christmas hehe

[Torcida]

Awesome job as always mate!

[71175]

hehe, tho it's awesome... but all this DoT spam is sooo boring.

[uncreative]

good video: D you resist a lot

[Torcida]

hehe, tho it's awesome... but all this DoT spam is sooo boring.

Yulocker you are a warlock yourself though you aren't that good I expect you do use DoTs don't you...?

[Archonaut]

Yulocker you are a warlock yourself though you aren't that good I expect you do use DoTs don't you...?

I Think he's a SM warlock, but still. Yulocker, you use MoD in 1 vs1 silence 5 (I thought) pricking 5. How is that any better than hepha?

[Ettig]

I Think he's a SM warlock, but still. Yulocker, you use MoD in 1 vs1 silence 5 (I thought) pricking 5. How is that any better than hepha?

He didn't say hephas style is ineffective, just boring to watch. And that's
maybe why he isn't making vids, because his style isnt more exciting

[Archonaut]

He didn't say hephas style is ineffective, just boring to watch. And that's
maybe why he isn't making vids, because his style isnt more exciting

Did I say he said hepha's style is ineffective xD? Also did I say his style is ineffective? I'm just saying that his style of playing is as 'lame' as hepha's.. But then again, there aren't that many ways to play the warlock class. I'm not saying none, also not saying I play a none-boring way. Still.

[Kitsuni]

Can we, for once, not turn a video thread into "who is the best"?

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Nice video Hepha, it also shows some of the mistakes that can happen in war (like WD going into CD on a target that gets frozen). It is important to remember that not everything goes according to plan (sometimes nothing lol), there are suprises and situations beyond our power to control, and this video showed that alot.

And you still did good despite that, handling the situation in the last few fights the best you could as it continued to evolve.

[Huntrare]

Awesome Vid! One of the best I seen. nice :thumb:

[Aelonderiel]

"Lag is a bitch, but so is Syrtis"

Made me chuckle.

But this was just a 12 minute Meteor/Lightning/Ice Blast spam to be honest. Quite bland in comparison to other lock videos, even your own. Any lock can do that really... I expected more.

[71175]

I Think he's a SM warlock, but still. Yulocker, you use MoD in 1 vs1 silence 5 (I thought) pricking 5. How is that any better than hepha?

1. Yes i use SM, and yes it's not any more exciting than hepha's vids.
2. MoD in 1 vs 1, yes silence which i use only on 4 and only on full mentals/necro setup. so on SM i don't use it but meteor 5. ad ivy on lvl1 xD
3. I've never said i better than heph reread post.
4. And yes vid is great prove of skills (or lack of 'em for opponents). So let's stop holywar at this point.

[Archonaut]

1. Yes i use SM, and yes it's not any more exciting than hepha's vids.
2. MoD in 1 vs 1, yes silence which i use only on 4 and only on full mentals/necro setup. so on SM i don't use it but meteor 5. ad ivy on lvl1 xD
3. I've never said i better than heph reread post.
4. And yes vid is great prove of skills (or lack of 'em for opponents). So let's stop holywar at this point.

1. We know, no need for pointing that out again.
2. Meteor 5 and MoD 5? Lool.
3. You criticized his video as if your style is better, maybe it was just me noticing it I don't know seemed like it.
4. I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, if it is I've never said this vid shows great prove of skills or not. If this isn't sarcasm, nevermind.

[Psynocide]

I don't know what's worse; your ping or my fps.

I would prefer to see some larger scale RvR conflict - much more interesting.

[esp_tupac]

Id like to say thank you to all of you who have watched and comments on this video. I will take all your feedbacks into consideration when I make the next one. sorry about the rather boring contents of this video tho. The purpose was to record the current state of warlock before the new update so that ppl can look at it at a later date and go "so this is what RO looks like 6 months ago". It was a bit rushed so quality is not that good sorry. Thank you again for your comments and feedbacks.

[Ptitours]

Hi hepha you are one the best locks i know ;)but in my opinion that wasnt a fair fights because you was fighting no experimented players edmark,miluna,sexy,total night.... no challenge no surprise , it think would be great if we saw some old names like : Gondu , jesus , ieti , mjollinir , Tigerious , jakob , jaud ..... :p

[Raindance]

like : Gondu , jesus , ieti , mjollinir , Tigerious , jakob , jaud ..... :p

Hmm, yeah, would be nice to find those people alone in the WZ before they even run away. +1

[esp_tupac]

Hi hepha you are one the best locks i know ;)but in my opinion that wasnt a fair fights because you was fighting no experimented players edmark,miluna,sexy,total night.... no challenge no surprise , it think would be great if we saw some old names like : Gondu , jesus , ieti , mjollinir , Tigerious , jakob , jaud ..... :p

that's so true man :)but my timezone is different from most of these players. I hardly see them when im online, not to mention having a fight with them alone in wz :) the video clips were taken in a random night during and after a particular gelf invasion (2 days ago i think). generally the video was a bit rushed but ur suggestion is noted :)

[Tigerious]

This video just show how ngd made the actual gameplay status of the game...
I wonder if you could run that much time if enemy was two marksmen level 60 with horn skill. This first sentence on video was uneeded.

[Zas_]

Hmm, yeah, would be nice to find those people alone in the WZ before they even run away. +1

What a lame comment. -1

[Raindance]

What a lame comment. -1

Need a tissue? :')

It's an internet game forum with a bunch of hypocrites, learn to not take shit from people.

[Archonaut]

What a lame comment. -1

Indeed so lame, he/she forgot your name.. Seriously stop running away all the time.. Try confronting without Confuse 5 ambush, little noob barb and camo.

[Torcida]

This video just show how ngd made the actual gameplay status of the game...

marksmen level 60 with horn skill

Please just please...

[Torcida]

What a lame comment. -1

Your playstyle is extremely lame, Most annoying hunter in Syrtis annoying but yet not effective haha.

[Tigerious]

Please just please...

Any other useless reply you wana do?
What is wrong in what I said, I see no arguments there.

[Archonaut]

Any other useless reply you wana do?
What is wrong in what I said, I see no arguments there.

I think Torc is trying to point out the irony of your post. You say lock is OP and it is easy for them to kill a barb (or something like that) yet however you talk about an even more OP class(marks) with an even more OP skill(HotW). Is it just me, or is that some 1st class irony.
No... I'm almost sure.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LZ92yTgKeAQ/SxcF-XUNEII/AAAAAAAAJcY/nutFWYJ6_2Y/s400/thumbsUp.jpg

[Zas_]

Your playstyle is extremely lame, Most annoying hunter in Syrtis annoying but yet not effective haha.

I yet to see you play at any war. Then you can write anything about being effective.

Or just try to play a hunter.

[Zas_]

Indeed so lame, he/she forgot your name.. Seriously stop running away all the time.. Try confronting without Confuse 5 ambush, little noob barb and camo.

Lol. Learn to play.

[Tigerious]

I think Torc is trying to point out the irony of your post. You say lock is OP and it is easy for them to kill a barb (or something like that) yet however you talk about an even more OP class(marks) with an even more OP skill(HotW). Is it just me, or is that some 1st class irony.
No... I'm almost sure.

I didn't say warlock is OP, I've just said that the current gameplay encourage people to kiting (eg horn etc) but you seems not enough smart to understand it. It's not like it was the first video like this on forum hm?

[_Emin_]

Let's not go off-topic people.

Hepha, I remember when you just transfered RA > Horus and showed you rocked and probably still do :)

You should make a fortwar vid, or a small fight ( like 8 vs 8 ).

[Archonaut]

I didn't say warlock is OP, I've just said that the current gameplay encourage people to kiting (eg horn etc) but you seems not enough smart to understand it. It's not like it was the first video like this on forum hm?

*Looking on my, looking on my right* ... ''Is Tigerious' translater in the room? Anyone?

Lol. Learn to play.

I will, as soon as you drop lvl 5 conf naab.



Anyway emin is right, we shouldn't go off-topic for lvl 5 confuse noobs. My bad hepha, once again nice vid :)

[Psynocide]

Congratulations, your Thread Post evolved into.. Oh dear, not again..

[Torcida]

I yet to see you play at any war. Then you can write anything about being effective.



Look at my signature, thats kinda how I think about you in my eyes you have become a #2 Tigerious, And that Sir is Not possitive

Kinda funny you share the same nationality ; French.

[Psynocide]

Look at my signature, thats kinda how I think about you in my eyes you have become a #2 Tigerious, And that Sir is Not possitive

Kinda funny you share the same nationality ; French.

She chooses not to PvP for the same reasons you choose not to RvR.

Personally mate, I just find it funny that you play a RvR oriented MMO and do not partake in any RvR activities :hat:

[Zas_]

She chooses not to PvP for the same reasons you choose not to RvR.

Personally mate, I just find it funny that you play a RvR oriented MMO and do not partake in any RvR activities :hat:

First, i have to say i like Hepha's video, but as i already said to him, i would like to see him more at war.

There's nothing wrong about kiting in this game, and he's pretty good at it.

Second, well, PvP is a pretty stupid thing in this game, because of the complete imbalance between classes, and also between stuff.
A hunter does much more "PvP" you think, since we fight 1vs1 very often (imho much more than any class), many hunters are far better than me at 1vs1 fights.

Warlock's players like to think they are great players because they are winning PvP fights with their deadly chains, good for them.

They are training in arena to find the perfect sequence in a defined situation.
This is why they are bad at RvR, situation is always changing.

Still, i know good Pvpers which are also good at war, one is in the list of people "you cannot find alone in warzone": Jakob, i guess he will always accept to pvp anyone (this is why the comment was pretty lame, most of characters listed are played by good and nice players).

PS: i cannot write here what i think about attacks concerning people's nationality.
PS2: who think i'm using confuse(5) don't know me. Who is asking a hunter to not use confuse should try to play one.
PS3: who is judging someone after the way he's playing a character forgot the RPG part of MMORPG.

[uncreative]

First, i have to say i like Hepha's video, but as i already said to him, i would like to see him more at war.

There's nothing wrong about kiting in this game, and he's pretty good at it.

Second, well, PvP is a pretty stupid thing in this game, because of the complete imbalance between classes, and also between stuff.
A hunter does much more "PvP" you think, since we fight 1vs1 very often (imho much more than any class), many hunters are far better than me at 1vs1 fights.

Warlock's players like to think they are great players because they are winning PvP fights with their deadly chains, good for them.

They are training in arena to find the perfect sequence in a defined situation.
This is why they are bad at RvR, situation is always changing.

Still, i know good Pvpers which are also good at war, one is in the list of people "you cannot find alone in warzone": Jakob, i guess he will always accept to pvp anyone (this is why the comment was pretty lame, most of characters listed are played by good and nice players).

PS: i cannot write here what i think about attacks concerning people's nationality.
PS2: who think i'm using confuse(5) don't know me. Who is asking a hunter to not use confuse should try to play one.
PS3: who is judging someone after the way he's playing a character forgot the RPG part of MMORPG.
WOOW +1 xD

[Torcida]

many hunters are far better than me at 1vs1 fights.

I know

This is why they are bad at RvR, situation is always changing.

Bad at RvR? You really think that someone who is good in PvP is bad in RvR? We both know which kind of battles recuire more skill; PvP thats a solid fact and if you really want to discuss about that prepare too see your arguments shut down.

PS: i cannot write here what i think about attacks concerning people's nationality.


Yeah it was Such a vicious attack from my side, Poor you.

[-Aniara-]

Lock is a good chosie if u want to pvp, prolly second best after mark :)

Killing grinders with a high lvl lock under horn? eh that was really no challange, dident do that much. :clapclap:

Good lock RVR now thats another thing, u will soon be badly targeted and u need really good timing to turn the tide of the zergs, wich i still think is the locks main value.

Nice vid, keep it up xD

/Ani

[esp_tupac]

Warlock's players like to think they are great players because they are winning PvP fights with their deadly chains, good for them.

They are training in arena to find the perfect sequence in a defined situation.
This is why they are bad at RvR, situation is always changing.

Still, i know good Pvpers which are also good at war, one is in the list of people "you cannot find alone in warzone": Jakob, i guess he will always accept to pvp anyone (this is why the comment was pretty lame, most of characters listed are played by good and nice players).


warlocks like to think they are great players because they do everything by spell and so their performance is directly related to how fast they can click the number pad and how fast they can switch quickbars compared to other classes who use normals hits as part of attack sequence. warlocks are the most versitile in that they have the most spells and that makes them the most difficult class to play in terms of hand techniques. for warlock, there can't be a mistake in your casting in combat since they are weak in defense and they don't have the luxury to be touched by any melee class or any other class and get away with it unlike ppl with mindblank, sotw, sanc etc. warlocks require toughest training and highest spell precision to play.

Every class has their own deadly chains. if you want to play your class well, first step, you have to know the timing of each spells and how they chain together to form a deadly attack sequence at ANY point in time. people go to arena to get to know their spells and timings as well as their unique spell chains as a first step, not just "PvPers" but EVERYONE. These are like textbook stuff, predefined stuff but you have to learn them first before u can utilize them freely and be able to improvise in a real combat situation. Since you dont know if any one of the spells will get resisted, ur reaction time, reflex and your ability to fluently switch in between quickbars play a major role too. All of which can be practised and trained in arena. but the function that arena serves is very limited because it is NOT real like it is in the warzone where ppl can strafe, dispell, treehugging, play RvR and all sorts of things.

ppl tend to think that "pvpers" don't know how to war because they don't have the situational awareness, concept of supporting ally, or in a nutshell the mindframe to play as a team because "pvpers" are trained only to deal with 1 target with a predefined chain? Nothing is predefined in wz. nothing is certain in the wz. things always change, even when you run into a pvp situation ppl can be popping out of nowhere during the fight. you have to be aware of your surroundings at all times. you have to provide necessary cover, support and dispell, horn to the ppl around you at the right time. it's not like the "pvpers" don't have such quality in mind. it's that certain ppl prefer a more challenging way of life by going solo against multiple targets in the wz and try their best to survive and make the best fight out of it. also keep in mind that in the warzone most of situations that "pvpers" encounter are pvR, 2vsR, or 3vsR, not 1vs1.

RvRers and PvPers are bascially seperated by class differences. As melee warriors and conjurers they serve best in RvR. as hunters, marksman and warlock, the offensive disciplines however have the options to go either RvR oriented or PvP oriented. killing a player in pvp doesn't make one better than the other in the warzone because of the class imbalance. for me what really matters is try your very best in every fight that you encounter in the wz no matter how strong or overnumbered the enemy is as long as you have tried ur best you are a winner already. "pvpers" in the warzone do not go ask for pvps. if they meet 1 person they will fight 1 person. if they meet multiples they will fight multiples. if they are with a group they will fight with the group. They are the true alpha dogs that fears nothing. warlocks in particular have the spell versitility to take on any class at will in single or multiple forms and with the help of the terrains, they are invincible. NGD made them like that way and it's only natural for warlock to go solo and be categorized as "pvpers".

jakob is a knight. He is a great pvper as I have said many many times on the forum but the true strength of the knight class lies within the group and that's the reason why "you can't find him alone" in the warzone. I guess jakob chooce to go to a more favorable/suitable way for his class(RvR), whereas I picked the pvp way of life simply cuz it serves warlock better. Hunters can go both ways but the trend is more toward RvRs with the simple "camo, confuse/distract/caltrop" sequence. As you have seen, that the players are looking for the easiest and most appealing way to play each class based on the changes made on each update. back on topic tho, my point is pvp sets the basis for RvR action. to be good at a class you gotta learn to pvp well first and then go larger scale. for ppl that claims that they are good in RvR but not pvp, it's sort of saying you have skipped a step and jumped right into RvR and your foundation is weak (hand techniques).

I've always trained and played in the WARZONE as "pvper" cuz I like the adredaline each encounter gives me :) You don't often see me in fort wars doesn't mean I don't play fort wars and doesn't mean I'm not good at fort wars. I might not be as effective in the fort war compared to other warlock because I don't have area spells like twister, summon lightning and terror. but that doesn't mean i don't know how/when to use them in RvR. "pvpers" are not neccessarily bad in RvR. only their setup is not optimal for RvR but set for both RvR and PvP and that they find hunting more appealing than farming/zerging? There is no fair pvp or RvR fights in the warzone. The side with more numbers or with a better composition of classes win. and thx to beacons, there is even less tactics involved in RvR....

Sorry about this 1000 word essay i put up in front of you. if you don't want to read it, skip it and save yourself from the upcoming endless and pointless flame war. so sorry...i just felt the absolute need to express myself again. btw i make videos to show other warlocks how to be an effective killer in the warzone, not to make up new playing styles eveytime to entertain ppl. for me playing warlock is serious business.

[The_Krome_Dragon]

Nice video heph, always fun fightin ya even tho i'm not the best barbxD. Hope to see ya in wz more often. Too bad 2v2 fights and other even encounters dont happen more often. Anyway to all flame war participants: Its just a game!!! Ppl will do whatever they find most entertaining in war.

[Zas_]

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I agree. I always respect you as a good player, and i don't feel bad about the way you like to play. Everyone is free to play as he want.

I know you are now participating in war more you used to, which i appreciate.

[Lekarz]

After watching it I would make my own , support conjuer video... You recommend to use Fraps ?

Great video! If you have skill you don't need overpowered class ;]

[Psynocide]

Still, i know good Pvpers which are also good at war, one is in the list of people "you cannot find alone in warzone": Jakob, i guess he will always accept to pvp anyone (this is why the comment was pretty lame, most of characters listed are played by good and nice players).


Don't I know it.
Jakob loves a good PvP but he's not shy of getting involved in RvR activities - I'd prefer it if he didn't bug me to PvP one guy or another or even himself half the time lol.


We both know which kind of battles recuire more skill; PvP thats a solid fact


Don't go confusing opinion with fact, just because you convince yourself you're right, does not make it so.
I'll give you an example of the two just to clarify things for you.

The sky is blue.
This is a fact.

Light is invisible.
This is a fact.

Regnum lags like a bitch.
This is a fact.


The basics of PvP are to unleash spells in certain orders that you would have predetermined based on experience, this has less to do with skill and more to do with muscle memory, of course you may argue this is a form of skill but I digress.
Once the spells have been cast, the main factor that dictates the outcome of a PvP is luck - whether a certain spell cast resisted or not.
The only true skill that is noticeable is situational, even this is only a small fragment of gameplay.
By situational I mean to say, the environment you happen to find yourself in - objects that may provide cover, positioning in relation to the opponent and even utilizing nearby aggressive mobs.
Since the situation varies each and every time, this is not something that can be premeditated.
Very little of the latter part of PvP can be discerned, however, situational factors play a much more significant role in RvR.
Positioning in such an instance requires you to take into account your own position in relation to not one or two opponents but a whole group and usually since RvR activities happen around large structures, environmental positioning is far more important.
This is an opinion.

Make of it what you will.

[ieti]

I like hepha as a warlock. His videos are good and the way he handles multiple opponents is amazing. I have warlock and i never was good in it. Warlock is just not my class. It requires too much patience, timing and luck.

Sadly i never managed to learn new controls which gives me a disadvantage against strafers. If someone wants to be against me - go to fort fights, open fights, bridge fights. Conju is just not as productive alone. Well on warju yes but again not as fun as support. It is nearly impossible to survive after Confuse or Darkness. Especially against lock. The need of DI is unplsant.

I like to run from lost forts to see how long i can survive. We started this with Syrtisa as a fun challenge and it still gives adrenaline.

Good or bad - important is to have fun. Go go make MOAR videos! :D

[jakob]

I like to pvp soo much yeah:)
And still i lost my spring ability i keep fighting all of you, a pvp and a forced pvp is different, if you are forced to fight a ranged (and you are knight) then nothing to do, fight or die, but if its a agreed pvp, then there is no reason of long minutes of running after the target, so it can be stopped.
I accept all you pvp challenges, but i would fight fair, so bring warrior class please :D

thanks to put on my name at this topic.

[bois]

I liked the video. I do like most videos that are pretty clean and lack the distracting effects.

PvP , RvR the crusade goes on. I have no issue with PvP players. They are entertaining to watch. As for skill? well I said before it is what you define as skill. Everyone's definition of that is different and there will probably never be any consensus on it.
I play RvR exclusively and as such I know I am heavily biased towards it and as such, I will refrain from trying to discuss extensively it in a balanced way. My bias prevents that.

However, the game is open ended and players can skill and enjoy the game the best way they see fit. If a player likes PvP then that's fine. Like RvR, hunting , fort war, bridge war , open field? All good too. The game provides for all this.

Will certain classes have an advantage over others? Yes. because the game is not balanced exclusively for PvP it will always be so. Will skill setups be a factor? Certainly. Will player mindset towards their preferred play style be a factor . I think so.

Personally, I got tired of the threads of who is best and the PvP vs RvR debate. You know why? Too much variables to calculate. The disciplines are simply different mindset based. Nobody can convince me otherwise. As for PvP leading to RvR and missing a step well I don't think that is always the case depending on your mindset.

I have never trained my knight in PvP. Ever. Trained in arena? If I have been there 20 times in 3+ years that is plenty. Don't skill for PvP build. In fact I never developed a PvP build. Hunts ? Hardly and only if allies twist my arm. Yet I never felt I missed any step because RvR is why I play, and it is the only thing that appeals to me. Maybe I am a terrible Knight, I have no clue but I think I do okay in RvR and never had the 'benefit" of PvP training. Likewise for every other class I play. I never felt the need for PvP training to get better. RvR was enough. But Then I play for fun and don't consider game beta tester or drone pilot a future career choice. As such, dexterity I could care less about. I use my left hand for 95% of the game and I am cool with that.
I am not best or even average? Hey I have fun and give fun and that is all that is important to me. It is after work entertainment for me and nothing more.

I know that some players are young and such but it is just kinda difficult (prolly because I am biased as well ) to gather the concept of such seriousness behind a game and the fundamentalist need to support their chosen path in the game. If you are having fun isn't that enough? I suppose such passion is probably a need for others to 'understand" their position.
Personally , I feel players shouldn't have to defend their play style(unless such includes illegal exploits).

Anyway, Regnum provides for all (except PvE specialists) and this is a good thing. Entertainment and fun comes in all forms in this game. For me this overrides all other considerations. Best is not important at all.

Regards

[_Emin_]

I liked the video...Best is not important at all.

Regards

^
Really nice post, +1 to you sir.

Sometimes people forget it's just a game...

[TheMessenger]

^
Really nice post, +1 to you sir.

Sometimes people forget it's just a game...


And some people forget to play the game

Especially on Raven >.>

:p

[_Enio_]

And some people forget to play the game

Especially on Earth >.>

:p
Fixed!! Merry Christmas btw!

[NotScias]

Best is not important at all.

Amen.

"You must spread..." :rale: