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chilko
12-26-2011, 09:39 PM
Dear Community,

As you may know these have been some troubled days at NGD Studios
Besides any issues arising from the GUI update, we unwillingly introduced some issues within the ximerin code that allowed people to exploit the system and buy a lot of premium items without spending their ximerin.

This forced us to take drastic measures as introducing around 50 thousand USD worth of free premium items in the game could really unbalance the economy, breaking our business model in the process.

To make things worse, it’s the holiday season and most of our staff is out on vacations.

We are aware of all of the issues that the community is bringing up... so please bare with us until while we work them out.


Firstly, we want to make the game playable, so we are removing the falling damage until we find the issue causing damage when walking.
Most of the issues you guys have with the UI (resizable combat log, map zoom, HP bars, etc.) will be fixed shortly, please be patient.
If you are a premium customer we are very sorry for the inconvenience these past few days. Most of the illegally obtained items have been deleted and the ximerin restored.


To those who took advantage of the situation I’d like to tell you that you put not only Regnum’s but our company’s future in jeopardy. We can’t penalize you because this was our mistake and we have to own up to it, and because some of you have been great customers in the past.

To these users I say, you have forfeited any rights to complain about the current situation. As we have owned up to our mistake, reflect and do the same about your abuse.

BR,

- Chilko

PS: On a personal note and to make this the worst week of my life, my apartment was broken into on Christmas eve.

pauluzz
12-26-2011, 10:04 PM
Chilko, i wish you and the whole NGD staff, but especiallly you lots of love, luck and succes after this awefull news!

Great that you are working on the problems and i hope it will be all good soon. :)

_Enio_
12-26-2011, 10:20 PM
That sucks. Wish you a smooth recovery.

Regnum_Online
12-26-2011, 10:20 PM
Thanks for the update, chilko. Good luck getting everything back on track! ;)

Sorry to hear about your house being broken into. Was anything stolen?

Kitsuni
12-26-2011, 10:28 PM
Well, as I complained in another post, this update was horribly rushed and you guys have paid for it. I know you were trying to get it out, but this is the classic NGD mistake; it is time that you guys recognise that and fix it, it should never have lead to something like this. All of that money that has been lost could've been spent on a proper QA and testing team and prevented this. In my years of playing the game, I have never seen an update so terribly botched.

But I am not here to gripe at you. My frustration is because these actions result in a loss of players, of friends, of allies and enemies. It is very hard to watch the next big update come around with the same problems as before, and see my chats filled with nothing but players complaining and quitting because of the game no longer runs of their system, or they get too low of FPS, or the new GUI is too big to fit on their laptop screen, or their character keeps falling to their death every few meters.

I have been playing this game for four years and will continue to do so. I will also continue to purchase Xim when you guys do a good job and withhold any purchases when you do not. I am neither here to support NGD nor to degrade them; and I will always be either on your side or the customer's side depending on which side I believe is more correct.

I am sorry for your loss sand I hope that this can be a learning experience for all, that the future of the game really won't be in question and that it can not only recover from this but prosper under a refined development process; combined with the new engine, new forts, new UI and eventually (I hope) new cities which will spread it to newer users and eventually hold an even larger population of players than now, across the entire world.

When things are their worst, they can only go up. Take the lemons and make lemonade, or whatever you prefer.

ieti
12-26-2011, 11:08 PM
I'm one of the forum "whiners", but i do it because i really really like RO. For me it is the game that makes me relax and blow steam after the hard work day.

Hope you guys have a really nice vacation this days. Thumbs up things will get better one after another. ;)

VeterKh
12-26-2011, 11:15 PM
there is a Russian proverb: Better later, than never.
punish all the not honest players, if you can.

PT_DaAr_PT
12-26-2011, 11:28 PM
Ouch...
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7611/screenshot2011122623261.png

Not to mention the 30 minutes of footage that I have of all this...


On a side note: It's not possible to delete these falsely obtained premium items. More work for you... :/

Archonaut
12-26-2011, 11:57 PM
Yeah I just was there.. Damn had some really nice fun, but I didn't know it was duped.(at imp) If they even were.. I don't even know for sure if the trees were bought with fake xim. It could be a xmas present ;p ?


Anyway, all the best Chilko.. Im really sorry for your appartment, just think of it as this. it can't get anyway worse ;p Only better.

Kitsuni
12-27-2011, 12:01 AM
Yeah I just was there.. Damn had some really nice fun, but I didn't know it was duped.(at imp) If they even were.. I don't even know for sure if the trees were bought with fake xim. It could be a xmas present ;p ?
I thought it was legit at first, but its been happening for a few fights, and they just keep making more and more trees. Unfortunately I think most people from all three realms already used these trees before realizing they were being mass produced by a xim dupper for a combat gain (blocking fort doors).

Good thing they only give perishable items (aside from the masks, which aren't tradeable).

Seher
12-27-2011, 12:36 AM
Wait, so there is a ximerin bug? (And how could I even not notice this earlier, lol, seems it was pretty devastating) That's pretty much the worst case scenario, besides getting your whole office building burnt down (which actually happened to a company while I bought my speakers from them), right at Christmas, wow. Best of luck to you!

PS: On a personal note and to make this the worst week of my life, my apartment was broken into on Christmas eve.

Ouch, that really sucks. (You should hope that it stays the worst weak of your life, though, there are far worse ways to have a worst week ever :/)

Good luck, and always think optimistically. It can just get better now.

84victor
12-27-2011, 12:37 AM
combat gain (blocking fort doors).

:lol: on combat gain... xD ppl just had fun... tho it was little combat :swordfight:

thanks for all fun at imp :dance:

Chilko take care and i wish you and all regnum crew all best :drinks:

Merry Christmas to all :bananajoy:

84victor
12-27-2011, 12:38 AM
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1112/a1/850d8b47f03a.jpg

http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/1112/5f/c94690b0918a.jpg

http://s15.radikal.ru/i188/1112/83/8fb767064808.jpg

http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1112/de/dcaa278405a4.jpg

tjanex
12-27-2011, 12:42 AM
And I was wondering how Midgets could invade the reds...

Torcida
12-27-2011, 01:03 AM
Damn Chilko really sorry to hear.. Imma go buy ximerin as soon as possible to help you guys abit (I usually don't buy alot of xim)

Well thats life you have ups and downs but the most important thing is to keep on fighting..

On a side note; I heard from a pretty reliable source who caused these problems im not going to tell his name in public but Chilko if it helps I can tell you his character name.

Archonaut
12-27-2011, 01:29 AM
And I was wondering how Midgets could invade the reds...

Lol wtf it wasnt us you smartass, it was Cnekmep or something like that. He named him self Cnekmep Aka the bad Santa. Something like that, I don't know.. sounds pretty suspicious to me ;)

Torcida
12-27-2011, 01:39 AM
Lol wtf it wasnt us you smartass, it was Cnekmep or something like that. He named him self Cnekmep Aka the bad Santa. Something like that, I don't know.. sounds pretty suspicious to me ;)

Leave Tjan alone! hehe

No but I indeed think Cnekmp was the guy who did this, He quitted lately because he thought that the game sucked or something his goodbye thread must be somewhere arround here I guess and this probabbly is his way of taking some kind of revenge on NGD for ''ruining'' the game, Idk im just saying, if NGD could track that character search for his IP look if it is the same IP Cnekmp has and if that is the case perma ban his 60 marks. I mean you can say yeah it was our mistake and stuff but I think you guys should show some backbone now and send out a clear message to the Regnum world.

TheMessenger
12-27-2011, 02:06 AM
No but I indeed think Cnekmp was the guy who did this, He quitted lately because he thought that the game sucked or something his goodbye thread must be somewhere arround here I guess and this probabbly is his way of taking some kind of revenge on NGD for ''ruining'' the game.


Funny cause I see him on his Alsius/Raven char all the time

Eyfura
12-27-2011, 07:51 AM
No but I indeed think Cnekmp was the guy who did this, He quitted lately because he thought that the game sucked or something his goodbye thread must be somewhere arround here I guess and this probabbly is his way of taking some kind of revenge on NGD for ''ruining'' the game, Idk im just saying

All I can just say that was very stupid behavior from him. If you dont like the game anymore, that doesn't mean other players don't like it either. Don't ruin the fun from other players. Instead of doing stupid stuff like that, report issues to NGD, please! I personally love this game because it's the best mmorpg with linux client around and I guess im not the only one.

I hope NGD can recover from this and we can play regnum in future too! If there is anything how I or community can help you, let us know. Im willing to help, and i guess so are many other players too who like this game!

VeterKh
12-27-2011, 08:40 AM
i got only Masks from XMAS trees on my 60 lvl barb and 4 +50% xp boost (which in principle do not need at 60 lvl xD).

ye! the name was Cnekmp Aka Bad Santa... I think that this name is not the only one who took advantage of this bug.

masks are not suitable to trade because, I hope, that NGD has OFF trade all premium stuff.

demand satisfaction! dishonest players should be punished, even if they acted on behalf of others players (unless of course the mask, and 50% boosts can be called BLESSING).

trulyem
12-27-2011, 09:02 AM
I feel sorry for NGD but after getting harassed by an admin last night. I dont. Karma bites.

Zas_
12-27-2011, 09:18 AM
Dear Community,

As you may know these have been some troubled days at NGD Studios
Besides any issues arising from the GUI update, we unwillingly introduced some issues within the ximerin code that allowed people to exploit the system and buy a lot of premium items without spending their ximerin.

This forced us to take drastic measures as introducing around 50 thousand USD worth of free premium items in the game could really unbalance the economy, breaking our business model in the process.


A damn serious issue :(
Since i don't play atm, i wasn't aware of it.
Very bad news.


To make things worse, it’s the holiday season and most of our staff is out on vacations.


Don't do major updates just before holidays. I was worried about that, hence this post (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=84409).
Now let's hope you can sort it out.




We are aware of all of the issues that the community is bringing up... so please bare with us until while we work them out.


Firstly, we want to make the game playable, so we are removing the falling damage until we find the issue causing damage when walking.
Most of the issues you guys have with the UI (resizable combat log, map zoom, HP bars, etc.) will be fixed shortly, please be patient.
If you are a premium customer we are very sorry for the inconvenience these past few days. Most of the illegally obtained items have been deleted and the ximerin restored.



Thanks.


To those who took advantage of the situation I’d like to tell you that you put not only Regnum’s but our company’s future in jeopardy. We can’t penalize you because this was our mistake and we have to own up to it, and because some of you have been great customers in the past.

To these users I say, you have forfeited any rights to complain about the current situation. As we have owned up to our mistake, reflect and do the same about your abuse.


Let's hope this will soon behind us, as a bad souvenir.



BR,

- Chilko

PS: On a personal note and to make this the worst week of my life, my apartment was broken into on Christmas eve.

The only true rule: Murphy's law.
At least, you can do a realistic wish for 2012: "never like 2011's Christmas again!"

I wish all issues you are facing at the moment will be old stories soon.
Keep us informed.

VeterKh
12-27-2011, 09:34 AM
Funny cause I see him on his Alsius/Raven char all the time

why so funny? he said bye on Horus server

NotScias
12-27-2011, 09:37 AM
why so funny? he said bye on Horus server

Yes, I'm leaving RO...
[...]
Maybe some day I will be back to this game, but who knows... :wish:

You said ?

VeterKh
12-27-2011, 09:46 AM
You said ?

what the server? horus... not GS forum?
rrrrrrr ....and stop xD
no matter who left, who still in game - this is really impotant !!!!!

NotScias
12-27-2011, 10:16 AM
what the server? horus... not GS forum?
rrrrrrr ....and stop xD
no matter who left, who still in game - this is really impotant !!!!!

RO stands for Regnum Online (and Realms Online) as far as I know :P.

Anyways on topic, I'd like to say thanks to NGD for their awesome work. This new UI and update is great in general and for everyone, but like it has been said, you pushed it too fast without making deep tests and resolving the most obvious bugs.

We don't mind waiting a few more weeks or months to get a stable and working update rather than getting immediately a half-backed update. Take care of the biggest number of bugs you can, take time to test deeply every update and so on. Your problem isn't the quality of your work, but the fact that you are sometimes very unprofessional by first not announcing important updates in advance and by releasing non-completely finished and tested updates.

Anyways you can only learn from your mistakes and I hope the next times and releases will be better and successful. Don't get down because of this, you are doing a very nice job, you just need to chill and not rush.

About the broken into appartement it really sucks. I hope everything will soon get better for you Chilko. Shit happens :confused2:. Hang on!

Huntrare
12-27-2011, 10:25 AM
I'm sorry about your apartment, especially on Christmas Eve, I hope nobody was harmed.


A tip from me is: See threads posts by players that reported many times the same bug and those who suggestted some good ideas. But before implementing these ideas, check the current status of the game. When you have completed the major issues(not minor, major). Post the new update you have in mind to make on the forum and get the feedback from players. Don't rush the update.

Archonaut
12-27-2011, 11:09 AM
All I can just say that was very stupid behavior from him. If you dont like the game anymore, that doesn't mean other players don't like it either. Don't ruin the fun from other players. Instead of doing stupid stuff like that, report issues to NGD, please! I personally love this game because it's the best mmorpg with linux client around and I guess im not the only one.


Yes totally agreed, I also heard from an Ignian friend of mine he had seen he complete the Achievement: Vegas Baby (Open 100 lucky boxes) after the 'epic' treefight at imp. This also sounds very suspicious to me..


Again, I feel really really sorry for the whole NGD staff and especially with Chilko.. I mean, what sick bastard would try to break in to an appartment on christmas eve? Unleash your rage on the people who have duped Xim. That's just my advice, I just can't sit back while knowing some sick f***'s are ruining the game for all the other players who have actually payed a lot and still enjoy the game.

VeterKh
12-27-2011, 11:34 AM
Yes totally agreed, I also heard from an Ignian friend of mine he had seen he complete the Achievement: Vegas Baby (Open 100 lucky boxes) after the 'epic' treefight at imp. This also sounds very suspicious to me..

damn xD he spend around 1 mil ximerin ... maybe more xD
Interestingly, who got from Cnekmp aka bad samba (or from another chars) premium items ( i dont count masks and XP boost)???????
Who ???? :clapclap:

Edited: rofl Santa of course

bois
12-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Truly unfortunate. However, I do agree with Kitsunie and Scias. The Universe sends out subliminal messages and when we do not listen those messages get bigger. This is just another message. The message is:
Don't rush updates.
NGD has recently changed its model to a system of release and fix on the fly. I was truly fearful of this approach as it brings so much risk.
Such fears have been realized with this update. It is terrible moment and I do sympathize but the company has been flirting with trouble.
I often wonder if these rushed things are due to invisible hands making unreasonable demands on the staff at NGD.

In any case, I am one who stupidly thought (in the early stages) that this was legit as well and kept asking the player in question , and others, if they got money for Christmas. Of course nobody answered me. I had no clue of any exploits. So I clicked the trees. At Imperia I found that it was becoming ridiculous and started counting them and calculating the Xim costs. At that point I knew it was an exploit. At that point I simply left.

Of course I was a bit drunk through all this but when is stupidity not magnified by alcohol :facepalm3:. I got masks and 50% XP boosters. ON principle I will NOT be using any of these and if I can't delete them I will send a ticket in the New Year to have them removed. Other honest players realizing the error should do the same.
If NGD makes a patch allowing me to drop these items, even better. I can save them the trouble of another ticket.

On the last note . I am very sorry to hear about the break in at your apartment. Hopefully nobody was hurt and hopefully nothing of real value was stolen. Remember, life is the most precious gift, and you still have that and the lives of your family. Once you are all alive all things remain possible. Look at your family members, hug them, tell them you love them and happy they are there. The best gift of all.

Regards
Artec

makarios68
12-27-2011, 02:12 PM
Sorry to hear about these unfortunate events.
Hope the new year brings better things.

Psynocide
12-27-2011, 03:00 PM
If you intend to remove the fall damage temporarily, also remove the ability to jump - otherwise we will have players jumping from fort towers with impunity to attack opponents below.

Bite the bullet and hope you don't break any teeth, good luck.

standistortion
12-27-2011, 03:17 PM
PS: On a personal note and to make this the worst week of my life, my apartment was broken into on Christmas eve.
Very sorry to hear that, hope the lowlife scum get what they deserve.

Kyrottimus
12-27-2011, 06:17 PM
I detest thieves with a rage beyond measure. I hope they catch those responsible and return your property Chilko.

I also hope those responsible resist arrest and lose some teeth in the process. Nothing like a gaping void in the mouth as a constant reminder for mistakes of the past.

If it sounds a bit harsh, did I mention I hated thieves? I originally started writhing this with some more... choice... words but decided against it...

Tigerious
12-27-2011, 06:27 PM
Could you understand that your story is really hard to believe Chilko ?

It's not like end users didn't warn you about anything, and without any surprises bad things happened.

You made great work on castles and new areas, but why breaking everything every time when things are almost stable ?

You have a test server, and everyone doing his best to give you feedbacks that you keep not reading/listening.

Bah.... another post that wont be readed...

One day you'll see a fucking critical bug that you ignored in the past and will break the core layout if you keep ignoring all like this.

Torcida
12-27-2011, 06:41 PM
Servers are down? Is there a connection between the Xmas problem and this? Or is it just a unfortunate qoincedence?

71175
12-27-2011, 07:09 PM
Servers are down? Is there a connection between the Xmas problem and this? Or is it just a unfortunate qoincedence?

Emergency hotfix maybe?

Torcida
12-27-2011, 07:11 PM
Emergency hotfix maybe?

Thats what I am asking ;p

Jack_Dragonkiller
12-27-2011, 07:25 PM
The german servers are online now and NGD hasn't fixed anything.

Castingbeast
12-27-2011, 08:00 PM
The german servers are online now and NGD hasn't fixed anything.

Same with Horus IMO.....

At least i dont see anything being changed. I saw an option on amun that allowed to have map all time zoomed out (even after closing/re opening it yay!! :D), but i didnt see that being added on horus, so..... what was the "hotfix" for? o_O

roonwick
12-27-2011, 08:03 PM
on horus, keybinding for linux clients was fixed.

I want to thank NGD and staff, and especially surak, for taking the time to fix things on their day off.

OpperVaagheid
12-27-2011, 10:09 PM
Could you understand that your story is really hard to believe Chilko ?

It's not like end users didn't warn you about anything, and without any surprises bad things happened.

You made great work on castles and new areas, but why breaking everything every time when things are almost stable ?

You have a test server, and everyone doing his best to give you feedbacks that you keep not reading/listening.

Bah.... another post that wont be readed...

One day you'll see a fucking critical bug that you ignored in the past and will break the core layout if you keep ignoring all like this.

A huge big +1 for this reply tiger! Totally agree.

chilko
12-27-2011, 10:19 PM
Hi guys,

to those concerned about the robbery let me tell you what happened.

I have a building in construction right next to my apartment.
I left to spend Xmas with my family and left my window open.
Someone jumped from the construction to my balcony and entered my apartment and the one on the same floor on the next building.

They where looking for money. Turned my apartment up side down and as I don't have any they left with something they could carry: My PS3.

So, All in all, I was lucky.
They didn't take my 360 neither my games.
I finished Uncharted 3 last week so I won't miss any critical save games :)

thanks for your support guys!

regards,

-Chilko

chilko
12-27-2011, 10:27 PM
Could you understand that your story is really hard to believe Chilko ?

It's not like end users didn't warn you about anything, and without any surprises bad things happened.

You made great work on castles and new areas, but why breaking everything every time when things are almost stable ?

You have a test server, and everyone doing his best to give you feedbacks that you keep not reading/listening.

Bah.... another post that wont be readed...

One day you'll see a fucking critical bug that you ignored in the past and will break the core layout if you keep ignoring all like this.

We had to release this before Xmas, we had a commitment to the community, to our partners and to ourselves.

We decided to go live with some bugs, that we considered minor at the time and could be fixed a couple of weeks later.
We just thought that the GUI was such a major improvement that the update was going to be percieved as a step forward regardless.

The ximerin bug was not reported by anyone (as you don't actualy spend ximerin when buying premium items in Amun)

it is obvious that our development process is broken, we are working hard to come up with a better ways to continue developing Regnum during the course of next year.

Mattdoesrock
12-27-2011, 11:09 PM
...

Consolololol! Keyboard + Mouse or Die! PC Master race! xD xD

VeterKh
12-28-2011, 12:41 AM
[B]


Who blame you here? TheMes? Scias? dont think so...
honestly did not think that nick Cnekmp aka bad Santa that you and I personally did not commit you to this nick.
Well, if this is something you want to tell you a few words. I did not think that you are can do this (I do not mean what can you do, namely, your deed).
you marked in the history of this game, good boy, but Robin Hood ends badly.
or you think you're the only one in the world? then others will follow ... no one players want it.

NGD does a great job ... but you .... who the fucking are you ? (sry NGD) say you don't broke the game for everyone else? yes you did it without knowing it. We are ordinary people who come from work and want a little fun.
Of course if you can understand it.
remember one truth: breaking - not to build.

Thank you very much.

Archonaut
12-28-2011, 12:47 AM
........

If this is true... Which I actually doubt tbh, I'm screenshotting it before it gets delete by any admin. But again, if this is true.. You're actually an Online RO Hero, really had no idea that you did it for 'us' as in gamers.. You really did a good job..


Again, IF this is true I will here by withdraw my insulting comments to you.

Who blame you here? TheMes? Scias? dont think so...
honestly did not think that nick Cnekmp aka bad Santa that you and I personally did not commit you to this nick.
Well, if this is something you want to tell you a few words. I did not think that you are can do this (I do not mean what can you do, namely, your deed).
you marked in the history of this game, good boy, but Robin Hood ends badly.
or you think you're the only one in the world? then others will follow ... no one players want it.

NGD does a great job ... but you .... who the fucking are you ? (sry NGD) say you don't broke the game for everyone else? yes you did it without knowing it. We are ordinary people who come from work and want a little fun.
Of course if you can understand it.
remember one truth: breaking - not to build.

Thank you very much.

Even though I agree with you on some parts, he could've done it better. But if he really did it for the sake of NGD and their weak bug recovering system then he is doing us a favor... But only IF he is not lying which we can't know for sure anyway. In my eyes, at this point his intentions were really good.. Just the way he did it..

Seher
12-28-2011, 12:49 AM
...

Hehe it's official now, PS3>360.

Chilko, you just live in the wrong country. You don't forget to close your windows here at this time of the year. xD

Torcida
12-28-2011, 12:55 AM
When will you stop hiding the truth? You knew about existence of critical issues from October 2011. I was reading all these posts and the blames against me. But your words placed the end point and I want to share with others what happened in reality:


After Chilko's post (http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=1440469&postcount=13) I've spent a lot of time for researches of how people could make duplicate items. I began my investigation and I've found how it's done and a lot more critical issues has been found too. Then I've sent you private message in RO forum. You asked me to create a private YouTube video how it has been done and I've wrote to you in such content of mind: "I've done a lot of work and used my professional skills for these bug research. I'm just a player and a customer of NGD, it's not my duty to do a work that NGD's Developers have to do. If you want to get help, my services should be paid"

You can sell us items for real money but why I should offer my services for free? I could explain and give solution for all the critical bugs that I've found and could be exploited, but after that you knew that I ask money for my skills, you pretended like a little boy with such content "I don't really understand what you say... <etc>"

Remember, bugs, available exploits and solutions for them should be in your interest the way much more than players do. You earn money from it! After that I didn't tried to reply even. Then somehow you "forgot" our conversation.

Then I began posting and creating threads with criticism at forums against NGD's Development and Management. But unfortunately all my posts and threads containing criticism has been deleted, without any explanation. (You're not respecting and taking care of your customers and what they do think about you even even?). Just FYI, I've spent around 1000-2000 euros in RO at first 6 months of my gameplay...

After some time, my forum account gets banned too (no cause was ban has been reported to me). I was NOT using non-normative words even to be banned for...

So, I've left alone with all the critical security issues that I had. My threads are deleted, my reports got ignored, my forum and game account has been banned.
I cannot post here screenshots of our private conversation with you Chilko as a proof (my forum account has been banned...).

So I've left game, just logged in sometimes to talk my mates.

After being "invisibly pressed" and ignored by your side, I tried to show you how these issues are critical (Remember Christmas trees?).

Although I've never revealed the exploit to PUBLIC and I will never do (because I DON'T WANT other players to loose Regnum Online as a game). If I did, can you imagine what it will be?

I hope that next time you'll be more serious and will listen carefully to the people who points to your security flaws that you have. And please, stop pretending yourselves as a victims in this situation.

I've lost money and my RO account and everything that I had, you've lost nothing (I didn't revealed exploit to public) and you have still enough time to fix these damn bugs in Regnum Online until someone else besides me will find them. And please don't forget to fix all the bugs that players report you already 3 years.

P.S. One player from Ignis has an Alsius main and he told me after X-Mas trees show: "Please give me Xims for less cost, I will pay you using PayPal." I refused. He told me that he'll blame me on forums if i will not reveal exploit to him. Now I see that he's doing his job good in this thread.

Damn Seems like you got NGD by the balls... Sorry for the misplaced attacks from me on you.

DemonMonger
12-28-2011, 01:25 AM
When will you stop hiding the truth? You knew about existence of critical issues from October 2011. I was reading all these posts and the blames against me. But your words placed the end point and I want to share with others what happened in reality:


After Chilko's post (http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=1440469&postcount=13) I've spent a lot of time for researches of how people could make duplicate items. I began my investigation and I've found how it's done and a lot more critical issues has been found too. Then I've sent you private message in RO forum. You asked me to create a private YouTube video how it has been done and I've wrote to you in such content of mind: "I've done a lot of work and used my professional skills for these bug research. I'm just a player and a customer of NGD, it's not my duty to do a work that NGD's Developers have to do. If you want to get help, my services should be paid"

You can sell us items for real money but why I should offer my services for free? I could explain and give solution for all the critical bugs that I've found and could be exploited, but after that you knew that I ask money for my skills, you pretended like a little boy with such content "I don't really understand what you say... <etc>"

Remember, bugs, available exploits and solutions for them should be in your interest the way much more than players do. You earn money from it! After that I didn't tried to reply even. Then somehow you "forgot" our conversation.

Then I began posting and creating threads with criticism at forums against NGD's Development and Management. But unfortunately all my posts and threads containing criticism has been deleted, without any explanation. (You're not respecting and taking care of your customers and what they do think about you even even?). Just FYI, I've spent around 1000-2000 euros in RO at first 6 months of my gameplay...

After some time, my forum account gets banned too (no cause was ban has been reported to me). I was NOT using non-normative words even to be banned for...

So, I've left alone with all the critical security issues that I had. My threads are deleted, my reports got ignored, my forum and game account has been banned.
I cannot post here screenshots of our private conversation with you Chilko as a proof (my forum account has been banned...).

So I've left game, just logged in sometimes to talk my mates.

After being "invisibly pressed" and ignored by your side, I tried to show you how these issues are critical (Remember Christmas trees?).

Although I've never revealed the exploit to PUBLIC and I will never do (because I DON'T WANT other players to loose Regnum Online as a game). If I did, can you imagine what it will be?

I hope that next time you'll be more serious and will listen carefully to the people who points to your security flaws that you have. And please, stop pretending yourselves as a victims in this situation.

I've lost money and my RO account and everything that I had, you've lost nothing (I didn't revealed exploit to public) and you have still enough time to fix these damn bugs in Regnum Online until someone else besides me will find them. And please don't forget to fix all the bugs that players report you already 3 years.

P.S. One player from Ignis has an Alsius main and he told me after X-Mas trees show: "Please give me Xims for less cost, I will pay you using PayPal." I refused. He told me that he'll blame me on forums if i will not reveal exploit to him. Now I see that he's doing his job good in this thread.


I understand you ...

I was the same way... (but i never demanded anything for my discoveries other than fix them)

I told NGD about critical bugs and exploits...

I also went and made it obvious to all that it was possible but did not say how...

I was banned for climbing walls (the only thing I should have possibly been banned for, it was a test on the real server to see if the issue I told ngd about a year ago was fixed... and it was not. So I ran around and people took screen shots of me = banned)

Second time I was banned for not having a clan name (I didnt know this was bannable, and to me .. on my screen no one had clan names.)

Then I was told by admins, "one more thing and you are banned forever"
(yes they didn't care that I didn't know not having a clan name was wrong and they refused to remove the strike against me - I even gave them pictures as proof of my story showing everyone ignis realm without clan names)

Imagine how I feel. I like you spent tons of time trying to make this game awesome. I personally made thousands of copies of the game and thousands of documents and told thousands of people to play this game. Battle Angel Alita is proof of this. I met Battle Angel Alita "Terry" when I was with my sister helping her to find an apartment. Terry was in charge of the office there. We spoke as we walked around looking at houses, and I left him with a slip of paper saying. www.regnumonlinegame.com ignis server - demonmonger.

We can do our best to bring people to this game, and our best to warn about potential problems; in the end it is us who looks like the bad guy and us who gets banned. The people of regnum can't even begin to understand how we feel about this game. If we didn't care we wouldnt be here. The purpose is not to destroy the game, but to make it the best game online.

The thing that bothered me most was the inventing of a balance team with players that didnt even know what all the skills in game did....

I remember the days when devs would speak to us in person to get problems fixed. Megrim Niclam did... I remember the days when an exploit was reported and the admins would log in beside you to watch how it was done and thank you for your support.

I wish you the best!
---------------------------------------
Chilko,

Unfortunate about your xmas break in. Happened to me before....

Thanks for removing fall damage. (I hope fall damage never comes back, and I hope dual shot becomes casting time .5 seconds)

-Logan-
12-28-2011, 03:34 AM
...
I understand where you're coming from, but I still find that hilariously sad. You're in no position to harass or demand money from NGD. Even more pathetic though are the posts above calling you a HERO OF REGNUM... sorry errr what? This is called blackmail. If you wanted to help your game you would have told them what you know regardless of whether you get rewarded or not, you only wanted to help yourself by keeping it to yourself.

Seriously what the fuck kind of logic is that, exploit the problem to make a show and get attention on it?

trulyem
12-28-2011, 03:55 AM
I understand where you're coming from, but I still find that hilariously sad. You're in no position to harass or demand money from NGD. Even more pathetic though are the posts above calling you a HERO OF REGNUM... sorry errr what? This is called blackmail. If you wanted to help your game you would have told them what you know regardless of whether you get rewarded or not, you only wanted to help yourself by keeping it to yourself.

Seriously what the fuck kind of logic is that, exploit the problem to make a show and get attention on it?

He has the right to gain money for exploiting bugs. Some guys make viruses for a living and sell them to Anti-virus companies, its called a specialist. It just shows how little your mind is.

You seriously need to step out of the house if you don't understand that logic. Getting paid for services rendered.

Sad part is, NGD are people full of crap egos. Learn to be humble to your players since we are the ones making your game alive.

Regnum_Online
12-28-2011, 05:43 AM
Get off your high horse and admit you fucked up. Your first account wasn't banned for fun, NGD had good reason for doing so. Also in your post above, you said your posts contained "criticism at forums against NGD's Development and Management". To criticize something something is to analyze and point out flaws. Do you even remember what you posted? Most was borderline hate-mail directed at NGD.

Who cares if NGD has known about the bug since October? What right does that give you to use it? And to demand money for finding it? Do you work for NGD; are you one of their employees? Report the bug and move along. But no, you went out of your way to find and exploit it for monetary gain. You can come here saying "oh, i didn't spread how to do it", but the moment you asked for money, you crossed the line. That's blackmail. And to top it all off, you exploited the hell out of it the other day. NGD lost a lot of money because some prick was butthurt he wasn't getting paid; money they won't get back either. I don't see how you can come here acting all self-righteous, when you're the only one who's done anything wrong.

Sw4ggerPrince
12-28-2011, 06:20 AM
So,if you discovered some buggs or issuses "using your proffesional skills" you should just to report them simply.So you wanted a monetary reward for reporting a bug?
And for others who said "hero of regnum" ,why is he a hero? Becouse of abussing of some bugg that he must pay for?I don't see here any wish to help the game ,only yourself.
I think u can do more money finding something else.I just don't think those things make him a hero.Just think a little bit,without any bug or anything else,if you want a tree,you must pay for it.He had about 100 from what i heard.So he must pay for every tree he obtained illegaly.
That's only my opinion.

ieti
12-28-2011, 07:39 AM
Спектр having the skills and time to research bugs is great. Then just report, so they can be fixed and we all have a better game. Asking for money...erm we live in consumer society, but if you really like RO i see no purpose to put this stuff here.

NGD is not a big company like Google for example who pay money to ppl to research. Cases like this one can make things even worse for them. Argentina is a country pretty much like mine and yours. Not so rich and i know how much time and courage is needed to make company like this going.

I do not say asking for money is bad. Time is money. For me in current situation it is highly unneeded to do so. Even more things you do next as putting trees getting items etc etc etc are things you crossed the line.

Well let this be a good lesson and let this never happen again. After all we are all here because we love what we do - no matter playing or making this game.

Let next year be better than this one.

yeah-baby
12-28-2011, 07:40 AM
dang sorry to hear about the break in,that sucks!

Could you understand that your story is really hard to believe Chilko ?

It's not like end users didn't warn you about anything, and without any surprises bad things happened.

You made great work on castles and new areas, but why breaking everything every time when things are almost stable ?

You have a test server, and everyone doing his best to give you feedbacks that you keep not reading/listening.

Bah.... another post that wont be readed...

One day you'll see a fucking critical bug that you ignored in the past and will break the core layout if you keep ignoring all like this.

As tigerous said here.Regnum bugs are just like snowballs running down a mountain side.if they are left to run too long,they just get bigger and bigger.

I suspect the rushed update was forced upon NGD by 3rd parties,if so maybe some of the blame should fall upon those who let this project fall behind schedule.

better testing,and more transparency between customers and ngd staff is the answer.Great work just poorly implimented.

Good luck NGD!

VeterKh
12-28-2011, 08:28 AM
NGD is not a big company like Google for example who pay money to ppl to research. Cases like this one can make things even worse for them. Argentina is a country pretty much like mine and yours. Not so rich and i know how much time and courage is needed to make company like this going.

Let next year be better than this one.

golden words xD

i think what this amazing game could only make people ideologically. NGD team like that. I don't think that from RO they get a lot of money, considering that you can safely play without paying money.

NGD good luck to you, and pls, нear what say players.

Lekarz
12-28-2011, 10:09 AM
Good to see there are still people like Спектр. He made great show, but only few ppl understood it. If he would destroy game like aggresive hacker he would give away items from boxes and kill ingame market. NGD fixed nothing only tuninged more unstable game. In płace of minor bugs we have MAJOR ones.

Horse teleport back bug, herbred and much more transparent walls, savior on dead people.
Crappy hp bars which made me leave support conjurer, Ignis Great wall can be used to carry out gems, you can kill yourself if you start casting Sacrifice and get less than 450hp before you end.
If you get dots on you and teleport you die, if you are under water and click boats teleport you die.
Magnanites duplications still not fixed ( blocked trade ).

And many more.

Hackers and ppl who want to help need motivation. Nobody will lose time to work for free and give his boss money profits.


I leave this game for a month with hope of better. You made good work but not that what we need, NGD. Sorry.

ieti
12-28-2011, 10:17 AM
Motivation...

Is enough motivation to see a better game? Is enough motivation to make something good and prevent some sh*te?

Well it is for me. Still people are different and think different. Getting money from this cases is better indeed, but i do not think NGD can afford this like big companies do.

Still i salute Спектр for not doing hardcore mayhem. On other side bugs are not told even to NGD staff which can lead to another discovery and future abuse. This better not happen. Money or not this better be fixed.

Regnum_Online
12-28-2011, 11:38 AM
Still i salute Спектр for not doing hardcore mayhem. On other side bugs are not told even to NGD staff which can lead to another discovery and future abuse. This better not happen. Money or not this better be fixed.

He doesn't deserve praise. He still attempted to blackmail NGD.

They still lost a lot of money. There were mass amounts of boosts and horses introduced into the game because of the trees. IMO, NGD should first patch the glitch, and then ban cnekmp so when he gets butthurt again, there's nothing for him to try and mess up.

Raindance
12-28-2011, 11:43 AM
Still I salute Спектр for not doing hardcore mayhem.

If Спектр would destroy game like aggresive hacker Спектр would give away items from boxes and kill ingame market.

Pssh yeah t'was just a couple o' dem trees anyways, nothing to worry about. Well Спектр I'll be waiting for more goodies in the future.

Salute <o/

Raghn
12-28-2011, 12:24 PM
IDK ....

I'm discouraged every game update, the lack of NGD professionalism, to use the main server as alpha release (ngd has a checklist before update?), introducing many new bugs, not fixed old bugs, trying to improve one or two things and worse 5 or 6 things that were good...

I see total lack of quality, bugs happens, nobody's perfect, but I as a consumer, I see the lack of preparation by the person who leads the way things go in the NGD...

I'm sad, cause RO is a really good "product", and by the way, I presume the CEO doesn't see the real potential of the RO...

IDK how complex is the RO source code, but one thing is clear, the problems add up with the current stance...

NGD know that Horus is like a ghost server today, the factor isn't the new servers, is the low quality, players tired of seeing this attitude, thinking whether should be or not spend money in the RO...

Open mind, lots of good players, they know what they say, use what they say for the benefit of the game. I could mention many names of players impartial in their analysis, just thinking in a better game to play. for eg: beacons, offensive beacon broke the game, and other things are not reviewed before new updates. Bonus exp is not the way, the way is fix the bugs to keep your customers, be honest...

I hope that the NGD see this post and take constructive criticism, and really think "what we're doing wrong", and I hope it becomes playable again... I'm sure it ngd didn't follow the 'slow science way' before implementing the WM expansion...

thks

Thanus
12-28-2011, 01:11 PM
From Realms Online Forum :

For those having combat log problem
Please try this procedures:

1. Make sure your combat log is on the same window with realm,commerce,clan and general window.
2. Re-log (go back to char selection page)
3. You should be able to have a scrolling combat log after you re-log, you can also press "L" in game to put the combat log in new window for easy access but make sure to always follow step number 1 before you exit the game.

chilko
12-28-2011, 01:20 PM
When will you stop hiding the truth? You knew about existence of critical issues from October 2011. I was reading all these posts and the blames against me. But your words placed the end point and I want to share with others what happened in reality:


the Ximerin exploit was a bug and was abused by many users, I never accused you of being responsible for this (although apparently you where one of the people who abused it the most). People didn't have to be hackers to abuse this. it was an obvious bug.

We do registered some hacking attempts a month or so ago, according to our logs those where not successful. we did not relate those attempts to you either (we didn't connect the dots)

when you approached me a couple of months ago, you demanded payment after supposedly finding exploits in the game (which is ilegal) and sounds too much like a threat.

finally, you sent us a support ticket, demanding your ban to be lifted before 31st of december, or else...

ok, that's the REAL story so far.

tjanex
12-28-2011, 01:26 PM
the Ximerin exploit was a bug and was abused by many users, I never accused you of being responsible for this (although apparently you where one of the people who abused it the most). People didn't have to be hackers to abuse this. it was an obvious bug.

We do registered some hacking attempts a month or so ago, according to our logs those where not successful. we did not relate those attempts to you either (we didn't connect the dots)

when you approached me a couple of months ago, you demanded payment after supposedly finding exploits in the game (which is ilegal) and sounds too much like a threat.

finally, you sent us a support ticket, demanding your ban to be lifted before 31st of december, or else...

ok, that's the REAL story so far.

Nice that you tell us the truth :)

Archonaut
12-28-2011, 01:29 PM
the Ximerin exploit was a bug and was abused by many users, I never accused you of being responsible for this (although apparently you where one of the people who abused it the most). People didn't have to be hackers to abuse this. it was an obvious bug.

We do registered some hacking attempts a month or so ago, according to our logs those where not successful. we did not relate those attempts to you either (we didn't connect the dots)

when you approached me a couple of months ago, you demanded payment after supposedly finding exploits in the game (which is ilegal) and sounds too much like a threat.

finally, you sent us a support ticket, demanding your ban to be lifted before 31st of december, or else...

ok, that's the REAL story so far.

Lol I knew he wasn't telling the truth, like I though..

ieti
12-28-2011, 02:12 PM
Guys report all you find, fix - case closed.

As far as i know whole RO protocol is unencrypted. Everyone can get Wire Shark and start to sniff and see what happens. You just need time and coffee to convert all this into something.

Authentication to server is made by MD5 hash which is easy to crack using modern crackers(hashkill and others) and GPU's.

There is no ideal software and every devel makes mistakes no matter how good he is. There are many factors - deadlines, stress, IRL issues... If you like the product you can be grateful by helping devels with finding in fixing critical issues.

@Спектр if you do not let it go - someone will find too sooner or later. (И пошли все нахуй. :D)

71175
12-28-2011, 02:23 PM
@Спектр if you do not let it go - someone will find too sooner or later. (И пошли все нахуй. :D)
+1
Sweet Russian.

OpperVaagheid
12-28-2011, 02:32 PM
Mmmm maybe the solution is much easier.

Cne.. you wanted money probably. You got free xim by using the bug. Why not tell NGD now whats wrong.

YOu tell them whats wrong, ngd don't ban you for that and let you keep the stuff you got from it.

You have your payment and NGD can solve there problem? :)

Warthog
12-28-2011, 02:51 PM
For the sake of the game which I have spent years with (though not so much recently) an still love to play given the time. I hope what was done can be safely undone without too much harm to the companies employee's. Some of us seem to forget that while this game might be your guys dream but it is not your life. For it to be destroyed through people trying to cheat or prove a point or whatever they want to call it would not only take away a stress release and enjoyment for us players but would put you guys an your families in jeapordy.

I am also glad to hear you will be rethinking how you work your updates. For the past year or so it seems many things have been rushed. Probably do to multiple reasons, whiners constantly on forum/PMs/ticket system saying you need this or that done, outside influences from Gamgio/gamesamba, and even a want on your end to try to keep the game up to par with competition. Try to find some time to put some serious look into many of the major and minor bug issues there are an get them fixed before pushing forward with content.

An please don't let this horrible set of circumstances let it take this game away from us. Personally, I still have the fear that cause of all this and your current success with other projects that RO might just up an vanish after your current contracts/agreements with Gamigo and Gamesamba end. This would be a true shame if it ever did happen.

Most of us do understand that due to the size and lack of funding compared to most of the other major game producing studios things will not be able to change over-night. In terms of manpower hours alone I am sure other studios can prolly in a day put in the collective amount of man power hours it takes you guys weeks to put into this game. So try to find a happy medium to use your time more wisely. For now IMO most focus should go to bug fixing, something that has been done only in the backround for too long while other content was brought along. Hopefully your outside influences will agree to this and give you the time needed to correct many things that need corrected and an update can come that is just fixes to issues that will show the community in plain sight you are trying. No new added prem even if it is ready, no new eye candy even if it is ready...ect. I think most of the player base would appreciate an update as such more then anything. Not the current type updates where it seems the focus of the update lies only in new content an the fixes that are done are barely spotlighted.

Cordially,
Ding

kmdk
12-28-2011, 03:08 PM
Guys report all you find, fix - case closed.

As far as i know whole RO protocol is unencrypted. Everyone can get Wire Shark and start to sniff and see what happens. You just need time and coffee to convert all this into something.

Authentication to server is made by MD5 hash which is easy to crack using modern crackers(hashkill and others) and GPU's.

There is no ideal software and every devel makes mistakes no matter how good he is. There are many factors - deadlines, stress, IRL issues... If you like the product you can be grateful by helping devels with finding in fixing critical issues.


Agree with this ,allrady told this long time a go.

Any linux user have network security tools that alow you to capture /edit/forward packages.

Encrypting them and using a HTTPS service will slow a bit your server but at least by far secure.(not perfect but better)

I don't know in Argentina but in Europe wee are daily under siege all time.
Here wee play mouse&cat with hackers and exploit fixers.
Europe use massive Linux and love to play with exploits .

http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/dataviz1.html (click attacks dot)

Because RO it is a World Wide Game and cross platform ,i high recommend you to pass to HTTPS and encrypted network code.

Take this as a suggestion and make a priority to keep up your bussiness.

tjanex
12-28-2011, 03:57 PM
Forgive me if I don't understand fully

As far as I am concerned Cknemp shouldn't get anything. Why would you get something from reporting a bug. If you like this game and the people who play this game, you would do this for free to help the game improve.

Be happy we can play this game for free instead of having to pay 20 euro's for it or something.

ufkn
12-28-2011, 05:23 PM
This guy cnek needs to get his fucking teeth kicked in and nailed by some cyber law, that is.

This is nothing more than blackmail and extortion.

Kitsuni
12-28-2011, 05:42 PM
I think NGD has suffered enough from this. Its time to let things be and see where they go from here.

Jack_Dragonkiller
12-28-2011, 07:13 PM
Thank you very much NGD for this excellent hotfix. :clapclap:

71175
12-28-2011, 07:17 PM
Link on changelog, anyone? Ima kinda far away from RO..

Jack_Dragonkiller
12-28-2011, 07:21 PM
I love this Hotfix. :D

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=27&subsec=2

Version: 1.9.0 (Hotfix) (Date: 2011/12/28)

Description:

Client | Interface:
-Fixed: The combat log now shows over 5 lines of text.
-Modified: The combat log can be expanded horizontally.
-Fixed: All party members are now correctly displayed in the Quick Access list.
-Fixed: Toggling/untoggling the GUI using TAB no longer activates the Quest Quick Access list.

Client | Gameplay:
-New: The "Save worldmap zoom level" option is now available in Interface options.
-New: The "Animated character portrait" option is now available in Interface Options.
-New: The "Show party list" option is now available in Options.
-Fixed: Shared items are now shown correctly in the chat window.
-Fixed: All party members are now correctly displayed in the Quick Access interface.
-Modified: A background bar was added to the players, NPCs and enemies health bars for easier reading.
-Fixed: The Quest Quick Access list now correctly shows all current quests.

Client | Stability:
-Fixed: Toggling between Full Screen and Windowed caused some system configurations to close the client.

Frosk
12-28-2011, 07:21 PM
Link on changelog, anyone? Ima kinda far away from RO..

There's a link in the mainpage :angel1:

Anyway, here you go: http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=27&subsec=2

Mattdoesrock
12-28-2011, 07:26 PM
That patch is pretty much better than 1.0. xD

Archonaut
12-28-2011, 07:27 PM
Yes really nice patch, if this would have been adjusted at the beginning of the new GUI, there would've defenitely been a lot less complaints !

71175
12-28-2011, 07:29 PM
Thanks Frosk and this German guy with long name! This hotfix pretty much compensates the main update rushyness.

Jack_Dragonkiller
12-28-2011, 07:29 PM
There is a problem with the clan-menu.

Here you can see it:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/screenshot2011122318490.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/209/screenshot2011122820252.jpg/

Frosk
12-28-2011, 07:35 PM
There is a problem with the clan-menu.

Here you can see it:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/screenshot2011122318490.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/209/screenshot2011122820252.jpg/

Hi! Would you mind opening a new thread exclusively reporting this?

Thanks in advance! :D

Jack_Dragonkiller
12-28-2011, 07:41 PM
Hi! Would you mind opening a new thread exclusively reporting this?

Thanks in advance! :D
Ok: http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?p=1491697#post1491697 :D

Awrath
12-28-2011, 07:46 PM
Ah, this hotfix sounds good!! Now just the return of buff/debuff icons under health bar and all is back to normal!!

OT, finally read through this thread, lol at demanding payment for a bug report, blackmail much?

I feel almost sorry for NGD at this point. While I understand you (NGD) were under pressure from your partners (let's be honest, community provided no pressure, I'm certain 99% of us are happy to wait for a polished update), surely even your partners would prefer polish over buggy release? One thing that frustrates me is bugs being released on top of existing bugs, and I hope that older bugs will get some attention in the coming months. Other than this, I still enjoy the game and look forward to (most) updates, and don't worry, any bugs I find are reported free of charge.

Sorry to hear about your apartment chilko, at least the loss wasn't so great.

Castingbeast
12-28-2011, 07:52 PM
Yeah pretty nice work NGD, only missing the "lock spell bar" option xD

BTW, i have around 10 more fps when turning off the animation of the char, and the game seems to run smoother too so keep it up!

Huntrare
12-28-2011, 10:22 PM
Yes, somehow im getting a lot of low fps for some reason.
One places where i move like a slideshow is at Fisgael. i get 18 and below there.

Vaylos
12-28-2011, 10:37 PM
Hi all, haven't been on the game since I'm visiting the in-laws for xmas.

NGD, sorry to see this kind of thing. But I'm probably not as sorry as you who have to deal with the fallout or aftermath, and deal with cleaning it all up.

I hope you're able to sort everything out and strengthen your operating procedures and come out ahead in the long run.

I think we all want to see RO improve, and we want to see the updates improve. For that to happen, we need to have a good working relationship between the devs and the community who report problems. I think communication is key here.

To the community: While RO is not open source, I think it would not hurt to adopt (or further adopt?) the open source philosophy, and help each other and the devs by reporting bugs and other potential problems to NGD, and really make use of all the resources available to us. (namely the forums, Frosk, PMing, e-mails if we have them, bug-reporting tools, etc. etc.) Mention it in multiple places so we can ensure the devs get the info they need.

I know a lot of us do that already, but I think if more people joined together, we could have a finer net to catch these problems as they come up, and also strengthen the community itself by working together. Also, let's get more people involved in testing when updates appear on amun, and increase both the quality and quantity of feedback. You know, really run these updates through their paces when they arrive. Leave no change unexplored. :)

We also have a nice shiney new community manager who is doing a very good job here. So, if we have concerns and observations of problems or potential problems, why not use that resource alongside the forums and other tools? :) Just, let's try to keep the aggression and flack to a minimum. ^_^

Kitsuni
12-28-2011, 11:45 PM
Good patch but we still need a lock spellbar option. My buttons get moved all around in every fight. It's extremely frustrating.

The old user interface wasn't nearly as bad about this for some reason.

Phlue4
12-29-2011, 02:21 AM
We also have a nice shiney new community manager who is doing a very good job here.

:thumb: to this

Kittypretty
12-29-2011, 05:24 AM
That sucks.. Hope it is sorted out, I always take a break after a big update, so things settle down and any potential bugs/abusers avoid getting me banned (again) Still hate that, but Still I'd never hold a grudge and feel they owe me in some way.

Ps3 has cloud storage btw..don't have to lose saved games :) either that or its not too hard to back them up to the pc. :) hmm however no way to back up your investment :( (I got my iphone 4 stolen out of my car this last weekend, crazy how they didn't just take my car XD..supercharged SHO..guess they really wanted an iphone.)

Just wanna say despite what happened to me, and well despite the issues NGD has right now..it IS the holidays..and we should be reminded of what they stand for right? :P we all f*ck up, and it will be fixed..just time is something we can't buy or make XD

Ulti19
12-29-2011, 06:29 AM
What kind of loser breaks into someone's apartment on christmas eve.. or any other time actually.
I hope you have a great new years Chilko.

JGFMK1
01-06-2012, 10:39 PM
Yeah pretty nice work NGD, only missing the "lock spell bar" option xD

BTW, i have around 10 more fps when turning off the animation of the char, and the game seems to run smoother too so keep it up!

I have also submitted ticket for this. I agree wholeheartedly.
The sooner this gets implemented the better.

Also can the guys highlight text box when if focus in a different colour. I have always been peeved to suddenly try and move character and find myself stuck on the spot - only because text entry has somehow inadvertently been activated. Cause of many deaths.... New GUI makes this harder to detect. And text box suddenly disappears - have to click minus to close & reopen to enter text on other occasions. So behaves really awkwardly.

Eyfura
01-07-2012, 04:12 AM
I'm lazy to start new topic for such small thing so I'll just leave this here...
On RO mainpage there is still announce that ximerin promotion is available. But when you click it and try to buy some, there actually is not promotions.
maybe you just forgot to remove that pic? :P

_Enio_
01-07-2012, 08:42 AM
On RO mainpage there is still announce that ximerin promotion is available. But when you click it and try to buy some, there actually is not promotions.
maybe you just forgot to remove that pic? :P

Was the same for me, seems like just not updated.