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Hello all Horus players. Many Alsius players are dissapointed by Horus and generally their own realm, and we came out to a desicion. From wednesday 8/2 until friday 10/2 Alsius will be on strike so as to make NGD help Alsius become better realm and generally the whole Horus server. We think that other realms should do the same too. Thank you for your attention.
AMPZORD
02-07-2012, 08:37 PM
It's just in.. Alsius on strike!!!
71175
02-07-2012, 08:38 PM
It's... Ignis camping the CS of Alsius xD
Rising_Cold
02-07-2012, 08:40 PM
perhaps nice to add: we are not focussing on alsius, we are saying alsius finds that the game is less enjoyable.
To put it simply: we are not saying to make alsius better, but make horus more enjoyable
tnx for putting this on forum reble :)
_Kharbon_
02-07-2012, 08:41 PM
My question
How do you propose NGD does that?
Or are you going to strike "till NGD solves everything"?
Just asking...
Good luck...
Aktor
02-07-2012, 08:41 PM
Hello all Horus players. Many Alsius players are dissapointed by Horus and generally their own realm, and we came out to a desicion. From wednesday 8/2 until friday 10/2 Alsius will be on strike so as to make NGD help Alsius become better realm and generally the whole Horus server. We think that other realms should do the same too. Thank you for your attention.
Server dying, if anyone do anything, prolly died soon so will do strike too xD
Rising_Cold
02-07-2012, 08:41 PM
It's... Ignis camping the CS of Alsius xD
no you can do that as much as you like, its nice getting rp without having to walk :D
Mattdoesrock
02-07-2012, 08:42 PM
Hello all Horus players. Many Alsius players are dissapointed by Horus and generally their own realm, and we came out to a desicion. From wednesday 8/2 until friday 10/2 Alsius will be on strike so as to make NGD help Alsius become better realm and generally the whole Horus server. We think that other realms should do the same too. Thank you for your attention.
What happens to all the people who don't see this, or any message and get mindlessly farmed?
This will solve absolutely nothing. Sorry, but that's the truth. If anything this will provoke more farming.
perhaps nice to add: we are not focussing on alsius, we are saying alsius finds that the game is less enjoyable.
To put it simply: we are not saying to make alsius better, but make horus more enjoyable
tnx for putting this on forum reble :)
Yeah that too
standistortion
02-07-2012, 08:44 PM
Been on strike for a while now, went on strike in work for 3 days before though and no one noticed. Any kind of clear and concise list of reasons?, 'disappointed by horus' is a bit vague.
VandaMan
02-07-2012, 08:59 PM
I must say I'm rather disappointed, why hasn't this thread been trolled yet?
standistortion
02-07-2012, 09:04 PM
they are probably having trouble with the bigger words in the letter (http://tag-ee.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/12182368-email-to-ngd). Maybe even the trolls agree with a strike, we where promised something to boost horus population a loooong time ago.
Vaylos
02-07-2012, 09:28 PM
Seriously.....a strike....on a game!? Come on now, do you really think that's going to do anything?
If you're so discontent that you feel the need to "strike" then just leave the game. Find something more fun. :P Just because a number of players happen to disappear for a few days isn't really going to send much of a message, except to maybe merge Raven and Horus, and a lot of people do not want that! Sometimes I like to play on horus to get away from the restrictive GMs on Raven.
Anyway, leaving the game completely, uninstalling, and not looking back might send a bigger message. You know, go on an extended Hiatus like I did last year, wait for a few months for some updates, then come back and see if anything has changed for the better. And if it hasn't, then go away again.
Seher
02-07-2012, 09:29 PM
I must say I'm rather disappointed, why hasn't this thread been trolled yet?
At your service.
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And best thing is: This thread serves about as much purpose as my post. Seriously, strike? What have you been smoking? I want some of that. It's nothing but annoying to other players, and you won't change anything of NGD's policy either, even if your ridiculous little act had in any way some kind of significance, it wouldn't.
I Herd You Liek Mudkipz... :play_ball:
It seems it will be Samal - Herb time 2 days straight.
NotScias
02-07-2012, 09:43 PM
What's next ? Will you organize sittings too until NGD invents a magic wand to instantly solve Alsius problems ?
Raindance
02-07-2012, 09:45 PM
Well, you're doing it wrong just like the Occupy Wall Street people. Not Wall Street, but the White House!
Hollow_Ichigo
02-07-2012, 10:06 PM
haha, samal - herb, shaana - efe sounds great.
by the way ignis always has great bridge fights with alsius,
i dont understand what the problem is..
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Cuchulainn
02-07-2012, 10:07 PM
...8/2 until friday 10/2 Alsius will be on strike...
because of my bad English understanding, I was not sure if you proposed a more Alsius war activity event or a protest. But after reading the last posts it's clear.
If it was a Alsius war activity event, I would help out. Well the next time such a event happens, I will try to help...:horsey:
Rising_Cold
02-08-2012, 06:59 AM
I will try to explain why we are not leaving, we like RO, we invested time and money and made great friends,
its a shame to leave that behind, so we are trying to draw attention to the fact that:
Without a third realm, RO will fall apart, if you havnt noticed yet, alsius is getting more and more empty, wz and inner alike.
You will lose your nice bridge fights and hunts even your anoying farms at agg will be worthless.
We cant do an offensive strike, because we dont have the numbers, I do wonder how long ignus and syrtis will enjoy a herb samal,
as the playground for their rivality has always been aggs.
The only thing we are trying to accomplish is that everyone will see that without a third realm the game wont be a lot of fun,
this is our last resort to show this. Half of the people that participate are considering quiting,
(and thats the paying players since they stick around longer for their money.)
I do hope you understand what we are saying,
now you can go ahead and troll the thread, cause I know you dont have better things to do.
VandaMan
02-08-2012, 07:16 AM
I think organizing an invasion may help your situation more than organizing a strike.
Problem: Underpopulation
Solution: Get in contact with all available players and make them log OFF at the same time.
Hurr durr, i iz problem solvin' yo
Castingbeast
02-08-2012, 08:01 AM
I will try to explain why we are not leaving, we like RO, we invested time and money and made great friends,
its a shame to leave that behind, so we are trying to draw attention to the fact that:
Without a third realm, RO will fall apart, if you havnt noticed yet, alsius is getting more and more empty, wz and inner alike.
You will lose your nice bridge fights and hunts even your anoying farms at agg will be worthless.
We cant do an offensive strike, because we dont have the numbers, I do wonder how long ignus and syrtis will enjoy a herb samal,
as the playground for their rivality has always been aggs.
The only thing we are trying to accomplish is that everyone will see that without a third realm the game wont be a lot of fun,
this is our last resort to show this. Half of the people that participate are considering quiting,
(and thats the paying players since they stick around longer for their money.)
I do hope you understand what we are saying,
now you can go ahead and troll the thread, cause I know you dont have better things to do.
This ^^
No more $ for NGD for some time (maybe never again), $ goes to Gamesamba.
/me moved to Raven
yeah-baby
02-08-2012, 09:03 AM
Alsius is right to make a stand like this.
morale is at an all time low in alsius now.many regulars who have played years are finally running out of reasons to log in.alsius have players who have not killed the green noble for 4 months due to time zones etc.
what alsius is scared of is that if it is left too long and not acted upon.the balance will be irrecoverable.
currently its only taking ignis and syrtis players who play every day 20 days to become warmasters.its taking an alsius player who plays the same amount of time 60
ignis and syrtis get gems once each per week.they wish for 5k war master coins as alsius would too if they had the chance.
lets do some maths here now.....
ignis/syrtis 5k coins x 7 days = 35k + 10k coins for noble = 45k per week
alsius 2k coins x 7 days = 14k +0k for noble = 14k per week
do you see how this is only getting worse and worse for alsius especially,and in time for ignis too.
alsius just want NGD to manage realm balance better like other games do with great sucess.
alsius isnt asking for a free win solution or a get out of jail free card.we are trying to prevent any seruious damage done to the game and ensure its survival for years to come.
71175
02-08-2012, 09:07 AM
Alsius is right to make a stand like this.
morale is at an all time low in alsius now.many regulars who have played years are finally running out of reasons to log in.alsius have players who have not killed the green noble for 4 months due to time zones etc.
what alsius is scared of is that if it is left too long and not acted upon.the balance will be irrecoverable.
currently its only taking ignis and syrtis players who play every day 20 days to become warmasters.its taking an alsius player who plays the same amount of time 60
ignis and syrtis get gems once each per week.they wish for 5k war master coins as alsius would too if they had the chance.
lets do some maths here now.....
ignis/syrtis 5k coins x 7 days = 35k + 10k coins for noble = 45k per week
alsius 2k coins x 7 days = 14k +0k for noble = 14k per week
do you see how this is only getting worse and worse for alsius especially,and in time for ignis too.
alsius just want NGD to manage realm balance better like other games do with great sucess.
alsius isnt asking for a free win solution or a get out of jail free card.we are trying to prevent any seruious damage done to the game and ensure its survival for years to come.
Wait wait, u say that ignis and syrtis open portal each night? ROFL. And just incase: my lock haven't done the noble quest in 5 months xD.
yeah-baby
02-08-2012, 09:19 AM
umm dude read again,wishes last one week ..d'oh
noble are only done once per week..d'oh
I become WM without a single noble or invasion. Only with daily quests. It takes little longer, but it is not soooo problematic.
In fact if i can move between realms like in merceneries idea before i will gladly play with conju in goatland.
The old goat morale problem. This is mainly problem of the people around for me. Old ones have low morale, they give it to new ones and so and so. There are many topics in forums for that. Some are years old.
Syrtis is anarchy and sometimes chaotic, who can not stand there go Ignis - evil, order etc. Who can not stand ignis go goat. Well goats are last resort. Dunno how actually is there. This realm badly needs some lore, some identity.
This is 3-rd or 4-th goat crash i witness...
71175
02-08-2012, 09:52 AM
umm dude read again,wishes last one week ..d'oh
noble are only done once per week..d'oh
then then then why u multiplied 5k from quest on 7 xD?
VeterKh
02-08-2012, 10:11 AM
Anyway, leaving the game completely, uninstalling, and not looking back might send a bigger message.
we don't have problem with it. But... this don't make the game better. Horus for NGD it's like pain in the ass
BudapestKnight2
02-08-2012, 10:21 AM
I not really understand why alsius on strike for WM coins...
Last 10 times when we tried invaded Ignis, we had no chance to kill noble, 'cos all the times a horde of goats was waiting at boats for showing of them and suddenly kill ignis' noble. Wide boys...
Otherwise you can on strike. You'll reach great issues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_on_Strike)...
Kitsuni
02-08-2012, 10:30 AM
Wait wait, u say that ignis and syrtis open portal each night? ROFL. And just incase: my lock haven't done the noble quest in 5 months xD.
You're always a little quick to confuse "I don't play at the right time" with "This doesn't actually happen". All you really end up doing is ignoring what others are going through based upon your limited experiences - a mistake that many people here on the forums make .Balance has to be seen from all sides.
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That said the portal is certainly not opened every night anymore as Ignis nightcrew seems to've died down a bit. Gem glitching is the new problem.
On topic:
The letter to NGD was sincere, it touched on alot of points that were important. This is good.
The thread and the posts here? That's just troll bait. You're acting like NGD will care whether you go on strike, as if you are workers that get paid or something. It is just a game, no matter how you look at it. I get irritated quite frequently by the game and sometimes by forums too, but you know none of it has any affect on our real lives, it is a virtual creation in an electronic box called a computer, nothing more. I walk away from it, get a coffee, and its gone. Even though we may meet friends, have great times and sometimes even fall in love within this game, it is still just a game, not a job, not a obligation, not a mission, not something you own.
Being antagonstic to NGD doesn't work, many have tried it in the past including me. The only way you will ever get anything done in this game is to stop whining about it and start talking about problems in a proper way with the developers (who can be contacted, btw). There is even a bug tracker that was started a while back for this purpose. I cannot state this clearly enough, they do not want to listen to people who just cry or try to get their way by force, this is a natural and understandable exclusion.
Think about it, are you more likely to listen to someone who sits down and talks with you, or a child kicking and screaming in the corner? It took me a long time to understand this as to why they ignore forums, ignore support tickets, ignore people addressing them in-game. It's all about how you present yourself. They are men and they have lives just like us and they have to spend alot of time working and don't have alot of free time. They don't want to waste either dealing with us, harsh as that may sound.
Regnum sucks right now for all realms for many different reasons, each of them equally important in their own, but strike won't do anything. Either continue to play or leave the game for something better (Chilko's good advice). When the game is in this state I've noticed that i tend to just stop logging in for days or weeks at a time - let your ability to break from the game be a natural response, rather than holding onto it like it was something incredibly valueable, it's not, and it shouldn't be.
I might log in during these days just for the hell of it. P.S No Goats No Glory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo).
Psynocide
02-08-2012, 10:33 AM
There's really not much potential here unfortunately..
Senseless idea is senseless, that's about it.
Cuchulainn
02-08-2012, 11:10 AM
this idea has potential.
But I think it could be even better if the Alsius players would pick certain days or times for activity where they have fun together and also pick not-login-days. My idea is that in the times of activity they maybe wouldn't be underpopulated then. And in the off-hours it would be just a fight between Ignis and Syrtis about Alsius gems. Only issue with this is, that a gemless state of realm doesn't help much with motivation. And I have no idea, if devasted realms is currently implemented in the game or not.
standistortion
02-08-2012, 11:10 AM
There's really not much potential here unfortunately..
Maybe not but what are the options? RO is stagnating, obvious problems aren't being fixed, take a look at this (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86075) pole on beacons and thats only 1 of the issues that are being completely ignored regardless of the way they are expressed.
So, what are the options?
1: Quit and play a different game.
2: ....
Psynocide
02-08-2012, 11:20 AM
You misunderstood what potential I was actually referring to.
Regardless.. I disagree with the result of that poll anyway; removal is the lazy solution.
Huntrare
02-08-2012, 01:46 PM
To tell you the truth, I feel bad for Alsius. Always the first to be invaded, always outnumbered, always the underdog.
When I played first this game, I went with Ignis for 2 reasons:
1) My friends were there.
2) There was a gold/xp bonus icon near the Ignis Emblem.
^This will give players more , where they want to go. Only this they can improve a bit the population of Alsius.
In the letter there was a point about buggs and glitches...and that I think is not coming from Alsius only, but the whole regnum players(except those who abuse them)
makarios68
02-08-2012, 02:09 PM
Well, i'm afraid my twopennies worth is as follows: Alsius Hourus you bring about your own problems.
I have tried playing a couple of chars there in the past and i found the realm very 'clique-ey' (dunno if thats a real word :) )
I encountered quite a lot of rude and offensive players, and when challenged they were supported by their numerous friends, who backed them up despite them clearly being in the wrong.
Also, even when there is a decent alsius zerg online, all they seem to do is camp their fort, or if they feel really adventurous you might get the "Alsius has captured Meni" message. The realm seems to suffer a lack of apetite for adventure and action, even when their numbers match the opposing realms.
I would also like to add that Alsius on Ra always suffered from lack of comparative numbers, but that did not deter them from having a spirit of adventure and agression. Far from it, i would say that they were the best fighting force of the 3 realms despite them constantly being against the numbers (can't say if it's still like that now on Ra, but it used to be that way.)
Anyway, that's the truth from my point of view. Sorry if you don't like it, it's just what i think.
You shouldn't comment, much less judge about the present if you have played way in the past.
That's from my point of view. Sorry if you don't like it, it's just what i think.
makarios68
02-08-2012, 02:58 PM
You shouldn't comment, much less judge about the present if you have played way in the past.
That's from my point of view. Sorry if you don't like it, it's just what i think.
I'll comment whenever i like. At least i add something to the discussion, unlike you.
And i take as a compliment that you repeat my words...;)
L1nky
02-08-2012, 03:32 PM
Hello people,
general problem of Horus is that the kingdoms are unbalanced. From what I remember Alsius has always been the under-populated realm, removed short periods. Lately the issue is more serious, not only we are invaded at night, but also be farmed all day.. situation make it unplayable <---- less people <----- unplayable <----- less people, etc etc
Probably this is not a problem can be solved but that's the point:
Goats are not lazy, (well sometimes we are :)) just not wanting to go hit a fort with 5 ppl, when enemy have 15.. We are amazed when we gather 15 people, it is routine for you.
Unless you are a hunter or get a hunting party (rare too) alsius does not offer much, my characters (Linkiostro, Psychotik, L i n k) set is not for hunt, cause I prefer RvR, team play and fort wars, so I've totally lost the desire to play Ro, cause fort wars in Alsius are unplayable most of time. For what will and ability to put you in the game is always Alsius 6 vs 15.
For me it's not a problem, I can simply close Ro, it is a shame as it is a good game, but i play to relax and have fun, something very hard in Alsius.
Therefore I join the strike, i am not the only one..
sirtys and ignis, if you continue to enjoy farm, keep well, enjoy, cause prolly nothing will change; but, is it so fun to fight against a ghost kingdom?
Again, the problem is not mine cause i can solve it closing game, problem maybe is for ngd that losing players and money.. They made a game, made it joinable for all, plz.
Always glad for a good fight. :play_ball:
Kyrottimus
02-08-2012, 03:44 PM
Hatas gon' hate. Good luck getting your 30 alsius a day for the next two days, trolls. Trololol xD
See you all on Amun!
And personally I don't see this as having any kind of effect on NGD. It's a player perspective thing. No, I don't think this is the best idea since sliced bread, but the past two times I logged in, NOBODY was online so I lost all desire to get personally-farmed.
I guess it affects more of us than we thought...cascade effect.
71175
02-08-2012, 03:59 PM
Hatas gon' hate. Good luck getting your 30 alsius a day for the next two days, trolls. Trololol xD
See you all on Amun!
And personally I don't see this as having any kind of effect on NGD. It's a player perspective thing. No, I don't think this is the best idea since sliced bread, but the past two times I logged in, NOBODY was online so I lost all desire to get personally-farmed.
I guess it affects more of us than we thought...cascade effect.
okay, no more 2k WM coins a day xD? nice will have 1k xD
Mashu
02-08-2012, 04:09 PM
Oh no more 2k WM coins per day ?
Thanks for allowing me to comple Noble quest so easy !! :D
Thanks for drop from Thorky ! :D
:D :D :D
Imago-Thunderfist
02-08-2012, 04:41 PM
I'll join the strike... well i'll keep grinding but i won't war. I still got a second knight to make 60... can't leave Icey 56 :p when she's 60 there's a small chance i keep playing, bigger chance that i move to another server. Yeah and now blame me for alsius' underpopulatedness and low morale...
I've been here for 3,5 years and it's never been great, but now it's real bad. I'm not going to stay in a realm where every day is a torture, it's a game so I want fun, if that means leaving alsius(horus)... so be it.
But first Icey 60... grind grind grind grind grind...
L1nky
02-08-2012, 04:57 PM
What's sense of dropping from boss a drop u can' t use?
I thought that when ignis came to annoy us at worm was for.. Annoy and kill..
But what now that you havn't any to kill?
Enjoy your drop!!
_Kharbon_
02-08-2012, 05:02 PM
What's sense of dropping from boss a drop u can' t use?
I thought that when ignis came to annoy us at worm was for.. Annoy and kill..
But what now that you havn't any to kill?
Enjoy your drop!!
Actualy you can use items from war zone bosses... as far as I know...
You can't use drops from any of the other inner realm bosses.
71175
02-08-2012, 05:11 PM
Actualy you can use items from war zone bosses... as far as I know...
You can't use drops from any of the other inner realm bosses.
Eyfura and Tiger with Thorky hammer and spear confirm xD
L1nky
02-08-2012, 05:22 PM
My bad.. :)
Still enjoy it, anyway sense of post was that if u like to play alone... :)))
Quincebo
02-08-2012, 05:39 PM
Grind characters to 60?...grind for better items?
Kill dragon for better items???...
Better then striking, this wont help you guys getting better
magic_gandalf_007
02-08-2012, 06:26 PM
Really sad to see a topic like this.
Let's hope for those behind it it will help them in reaching their goal.
I do doubt it though.
I am not playing Horus and reading topics like this certainly are not an invitation to start playing on Horus. Hard to judge but also doubt if potentially new players would choose for Alsius with a topic like this one. In playing a game everyone simply just wants to have fun.
Pnarpa
02-08-2012, 06:28 PM
Ridiculous.
_Kharbon_
02-08-2012, 06:35 PM
Hard to judge but also doubt if potentially new players would choose for Alsius with a topic like this one. In playing a game everyone simply just wants to have fun.
Exactly my thought
So far my observations:
Alsius is emptier than usual, but ignis and syrtis seem to have double the people online for some weird reason xD (i usualy have around 20 players online in my friendlist at this time, today we had about 36 on..)
New(ish) players got killed today several times, it is not a good motivation for them that they get killed repeatedly and no experienced players help them...
Lot of people now have Als general killed.. Syrtis, don't you want to strike too? I need the damned Green noble :/
Conclusion for today: Any new player in Alsius has probably ragequit...
Overal effect: um... well... anyone help me?
Gabburtjuh
02-08-2012, 06:42 PM
I don't see the point in the strike, NGD hasn't done shit for horus in years, don't think they will care now, although I can see why, alsius stopped being fun to play in around 6 months ago, when the time started we could barely get a group together to capture a fort, let alone keep it for longer as 5 minutes.
For anyone disagreeing with this, go play alsius with a war ready character, and check how many people there are able to war, compared to how many ignis and syrtis can bring, and saying people should grind less, try fighting a horde of WMs 5 or more levels higher as you and see how much fun that is, week after week.
romero_snyder
02-08-2012, 06:42 PM
Exactly my thought
Conclusion for today: Any new player in Alsius has probably ragequit...
Overal effect: um... well... anyone help me?
Less ximerin? :)
71175
02-08-2012, 06:47 PM
Less ximerin? :)
Moar fun <3
PT_DaAr_PT
02-08-2012, 07:05 PM
For anyone disagreeing with this, go play alsius with a war ready character, and check how many people there are able to war, compared to how many ignis and syrtis can bring, and saying people should grind less, try fighting a horde of WMs 5 or more levels higher as you and see how much fun that is, week after week.
Been there, done that. Half of the people in Alsius don't know what they're doing and just give up too easily, either by refusing to fight or switching server and pretend as if nothing happened.
This post has summed it up pretty well, even though I don't agree with the rude and offensive players part, since every realm/server has them.
Well, i'm afraid my twopennies worth is as follows: Alsius Hourus you bring about your own problems.
I have tried playing a couple of chars there in the past and i found the realm very 'clique-ey' (dunno if thats a real word :) )
I encountered quite a lot of rude and offensive players, and when challenged they were supported by their numerous friends, who backed them up despite them clearly being in the wrong.
Also, even when there is a decent alsius zerg online, all they seem to do is camp their fort, or if they feel really adventurous you might get the "Alsius has captured Meni" message. The realm seems to suffer a lack of apetite for adventure and action, even when their numbers match the opposing realms.
I would also like to add that Alsius on Ra always suffered from lack of comparative numbers, but that did not deter them from having a spirit of adventure and agression. Far from it, i would say that they were the best fighting force of the 3 realms despite them constantly being against the numbers (can't say if it's still like that now on Ra, but it used to be that way.)
Anyway, that's the truth from my point of view. Sorry if you don't like it, it's just what i think.
I agree with the most posts. I think I am not the offencive or the rude player and I always try to make alsius better. But this Is abit hard. Well, its just a game I know, and I also know that many ppl are happy with alsius situation( they can farm us easily, Open portal etc). leaving your realm to join another or go to other server is bad too and not helpfull thats why I dont do that in contrast to many alsians who just quited and didnt even try to help. Anyway, thats all I have to say... To see Alsius situation you need to play alsius first and then you can judge with more presice.
Best regards
yeah-baby
02-08-2012, 08:03 PM
i think most of you here who have commented have totally missed the point of why we are all on strike(for want of better word)
not one alsius player ever expects change to come from this right away.the object of this exercise for me is,to prove to NGD and ignis but mainly syrtis how boring the game would be without a third realm.
NGD have needed to act in a positive way for such a long time now.and havnt done so.
senior members of alsius are already refusing to buy xim,join in fort wars where the odds are so great they just dont enjoy being farmed and soon log out.they are talking of all joining new games,many have already done so.this trend cannot continue to happen,for the sake of alsius and horus as a whole.
say what you will,advise us to leave RO permanently,that wont solve a thing.what we need is action from NGD like was requested in the email that was sent to them.
good luck with your boss drops!
Pnarpa
02-08-2012, 08:04 PM
What Alsius lacks, is the will to play. I either just see you guys war when Asdaf is on his conjurer. I've seen war groups camping bridges and camping SH. Most of the other time, I just see you camping aggers. Change your mentality first.
PS: I noticed you're striking until this friday. Just in time to benefit from the weekly xp bonus, right? "NGD, we're not taking this anymore!... but we'll be glad to take the free xp bonus"?
Rising_Cold
02-08-2012, 08:10 PM
not one alsius player ever expects change to come from this right away.the object of this exercise for me is,to prove to NGD and ignis but mainly syrtis how boring the game would be without a third realm.
Exactly =) glad someone is getting the point
azerti
02-08-2012, 08:10 PM
You wish that alsius would be even populated as other realms? well you already are but some times you dont do anything whith your zerg just camp aggers, and now strike for 2 days.. its you that makes our game now less enjoyable. :)
Rising_Cold
02-08-2012, 08:15 PM
You wish that alsius would be even populated as other realms? well you already are but some times you dont do anything whith your zerg just camp aggers, and now strike for 2 days.. its you that makes our game now less enjoyable. :)
Whats your timezone? Ill get up in the middle of the night to see this zerg :D
NotScias
02-08-2012, 08:15 PM
I don't think leaving the people that aren't aware of, or don't follow this movement, and the fresh begginers alone with the gate being vulnerable for all day and the overall Alsius inaction, is the right encouragement message that Alsius is needing right now.
Psynocide
02-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Underpopulated? Solution? - Quit!
Give yourself a medal.
standistortion
02-08-2012, 08:42 PM
Can't enjoy a game because the odds are always against you? Solution? - Quit!
Wheres my medal? :P
yeah-baby
02-08-2012, 08:53 PM
you are right scia's,its not.
have you considered what will happen if we dont do anything to try to change this realm inbalance,if we were to just leave things as they are already?
the senior players will quit totally,and its the same result as what we have shown for only 2 days away.
you can say we have alot of players,and at certain times we have enough to defend ourselves.its also a fact alsius has less war masters than other realms,and far less because of the inactive ones too.
the new players making it to the war zone is totally discouraged from trying after red/green zergs storm through the grind spots using beacons,alot of which start camping these said grind spots.ive read posts here where you other realms justify these actions saying"we have to do that to get kills" or "we do that to provoke you into getting help and having a war"
NEWS FLASH,you struggle to get 30 blue kills because
we DONT have that many unique players anymore.and its the actions of the war masters from other realms that are reducing alsius population the most,many are quitting or swapping realms,thats a fact too.
if you want a war,take a fort,people grind for a reason,alot of class's have different requirements for war and grind.but you know this already,you just choose to ignore these facts to the demise of horus.
justify your actions as you see fit.no one really cares.the most sensible things ive ever read here is "its just a game"
my definition of game means thats to have fun.it might be fun for war master zergs to camp grinders.its definetly not fun for the grinder.
if alsius ceases to be fun,people wont stay,currently it feels like we are playing chess against ignis/syrtis and only allowed to use pawns as playing pieces.
we all have a responibilty,more so than NGD do,to ensure the survival of the game we all love so much.our actions determine how new players see it.
but once again,you know this already and choose not to admit it.
pieceofmeat
02-08-2012, 09:01 PM
Its nice and quiet now.
...And we have good fights with Ignis. :D
_Kharbon_
02-08-2012, 10:19 PM
...And we have good fights with Ignis. :D
Epic fights
really, its probably caused by the fact that we know the direction of war - between sam and herb :)
It may get boring in the future, but atm it's actualy very entertaining :D
eztocrip
02-08-2012, 11:15 PM
I FOR ONE LORD EZTOCRYPT
Agree With the Strike And I am Participating in it.
Iv played alsius for about 2 years now on and off (mostly on), but I kno danm sure from War experiance with alsius that we are undercut.It used to be during the day yea sometimes we had zergs but after my time zone -5 eastern
after 3 o clock day time there are no zergs & maybe about 6-10 people warring.
And thats the frikkin truth. It used to be we had an awsome night crew but that slowly faded after we invaded twice in two nights.:facepalm3:
& now we are hardly well organized due to lack of players.
Anways I encourage all alsius to go on strike & believe things will get better & more even for us inevitably...
-Ps I love Goat Cheese :)
yeah-baby
02-09-2012, 02:12 AM
i found it again,sorry about that frosk :P
i take back (most) of what i said lol
heres something i forgot to mention earlier.
if alsius is wrong in what we say,then why have sooo many alsius player taken part in it.
why will the daily stats show our absence in the kills reds and greens get each day through farming us for hours.
lets assume we are wrong here,and all the alsius players who joined in this are just lazy as you like to say so often we are.
dosnt that then imply that we dont play to fight and only play to chat or sit idle?
if so,why will the stats prove we do try to fight against odds that overwhelm us most days.
in all seriousness here,until you have played alsius as consistantly long as most of us have,you are in no position to judge us as lazy or whatever else you might think of us.
you call alsius lazy,yet when poeple call syrtis cheater for glitching gems,you are fast to point out to us that its not every player,and advise us we are stupid to class the whole realm by the actions of a few.
yet here we are acting as the largest part of the realm together,and you call us lazy and un willing to fight.who is being stupid there,us or you?
my point im trying to make and the reds will agree with us here too is,syrtis players glitch gems out of realms despite the fact they can take them out legitimately.depsite thier overwhelming numbers.who is lazy now?
its sounds more to me like you are calling us lazy,because we all know syrtis dont like to fight when the odds are even,you prefer 5:1 or better odds.and you are just trying hard to protect your precious rp farms you all love so much.ive lost count of the players from syrtis who have drowned when caught alone,what is really funny is,some are names well known.
so lets all stop with name calling the other realm this or that,and focus on the issue at hand if we are to make any further additions to this thread.
that issue is,NGD need to manage the realm balance better,like other games do.there will still be times one realm is bigger than the others due to time zone differences.but to place an IP block on certain countries is wrong.no matter what deals are made,it was ill thought out and poorly advised strategy for this game.then there is the issue of the cheaters,NGD need to come down harder on them,to deter others from even considering it in the future.you may not be able to stop cheating,but you can sure as heck scare people into never trying it.i mean a 3 day ban for using cheat engine 5.4 speed hack,if i was management,i wouldnt want any person in my game who would even use such a thing,id delete thier account pronto.
and thats why most of alsius walked out for 2 days,not to force ngd into action,but to highlight to them and the rest of RO what can happen if a realm dies,and we honestly do see this as a possibility for alsius.morale is at an all time low,thats a fact.
EDIT: i doubt many of you can say its been fun without alot of alsius online,imagine if it was to become a permanent thing,how long would you last in the game without the 3rd realm playing to offer you any competition.maybe the few who like to bully or pick on weaker people will,but i know the majority of you wont enjoy it one little bit.
tarashunter
02-09-2012, 02:47 AM
Dude...alsius is in the shit because some ppl of your realm give bad answer to others mate,most of you are too lazy to move and stay agger or central save or even worst they grind.
Don't come here tell us you go only alga and meniren because you are few.
You know alga and menira,are secondary fortifications,and few enemy comes there.
I was fine with your point of view about strike.
But see you point the finger on syrtis and ignis realm,blame us,player as you for your condition,make your whole thread sucks.
Your goat friend prefers come to syrtis OC in more than 6 to farm grinders,i got farmed there by a bounch of retards of your realm 9 time in a single night...by the same 9 retards.
Keep this idiots,and make them take a fort,and don't stay here cry and blaming ignis and syrtis.
In syrtis,1/3 of populations,are multirealmers form alius and ignis.
Ignis multirealmers,sometimes stay with us to do something different.
Alsius multirealmers,come to us,and tell stories about ppls that give bad answers,or prefer stay afk chatting at goatland CS,or prefer grind their 4th char,etc.
This is not my fantasy,this is what ppl escaping from alsius tell to us,and many other syrtis can confirm this.
Even a RA player befor told something similar,so don't come to us "oh u don't play alius you don't know"....we WELL KNOW,by the way 1/3 of us was a goat,and don't come in syrtis because gouat is underpopulated.
All is fine except go take a central fort like samal or herb.
Do You take this game like if you die=you are noob,or if you die=your real life goes in the shit?
Yeah,syrtis zerg samal and agger with 12753 player a day,and?
Most of the time half zerg die because stay too far from fort.
I saw ignis players in this day,showing us 2 pair of balls,that you cannot immagine.
They come to capture samal in 6 and died at least 10 time,before more ignis showed up.
And this story happend at samal for 2 days.
After that,i gone in the middle of them,to suicide,and give them at least the kill for their quest(most of the time i do the same at agger).
Dude is a game,i have fun trolling here on forum for my hunter that haves no update from 1 year...but after that,i know i troll,GM's knows i troll when i go rage with words,and all finish there.
What the hell can ngd do for your unbalanced realm????
Yesterday and today we got A LOT OF FUN with ignis.....while you all were out of the game.
And at aggers,we saw some newby try to capture fort back,that showed us all their courage,and patience.
Stop give shit to NGD,sto give shit to ignis and syrtis.
Come back in game,take all "veterans" and all the retarded that gives bad answers to newbys/and no newbys,and come have some war.
Or remain out of the game,and try with you bounch of friend to have some fun on "hello kitty online-hardcore expansion"
Ulti19
02-09-2012, 03:21 AM
Alsius on strike now? (must have missed some meeting i guess:p)
Seriously, the way to overcome getting our asses kicked is to stop playing?
Hell most of the time we have huge numbers and I see us moaning at cs that we can't win etc when the enemy isn't that huge to begin with. Even when the enemy has about equal numbers to us we complain about imbalance.
There are times when we're at huge disadvantages, mostly at night, but there are times when other realms go through not so good times too and sometimes it lasts long.
Go on strike? that will help the new players for sure:p
It's becoming alsius attitude to think we're sad and mopey cause of numbers.
That's a super crappy way to think about it, especially when some afternoons I see like 30 of us online and I seriously think now about 80% of the time we split up right after we cap a fort.
Imbalance isn't the hot issue, we have times in the day where we have more than others, even if it's not enough to invade cause enemies still have many on too. If you want to invade it's easy, schedule it when the other realm is at it's lowest and presto u have an invasion = ro. Luckily for ignis atm it's at night for them, they have many online when we do not, we have more online during another time of day, that's ro, we should know that by now:p
remedy
02-09-2012, 05:56 AM
Having seen all the things for a while now, I want to throw in my two cents in this thread, I may get harsh, I may get brutal, but this is how I feel.
The number one cause for all of Alsius' low morale is Tania.
Yes, I'm talking about this low and pathetic player who manipulates minds and has been at Alsius save altar bitching about people for 3 or more years now. Some scenarios that's common in Alsius.,
1) A new player starts the game, gets some levels questing inner and after a day's work, manages to get around 20 assumingly. Then he is curious to see what the warzone is like, so eventually he steps out the gate asking people he could find about the things in warzone and proceeds to the save altar. You know what happens next? He finds Miss Tania there exactly alone with her breed of chat mongrons and the first thing he hears from our "war veterans of TAG" is "I smell a spy/multirealmer/blah blah". So how should that player feel at this point? And the funny thing is, this happens from the same player and same clan repeatedly., the same, always, just sickens me to see when new players are treated like this. If they didn't taunt the player yet, they would be bitching about him in their clan chat, planning on how to cork the screw.
2) A war is happening at Aggers, opponents seem to have some numbers more than us, ok, we will have war, can try out some things, let's see how long can we pull them out and beat them.. a general thought morale seems to be ongoing.. until., yeah, Tania steps in. You know what happens then? "OMG, it's a FARM!". This is a general attitude she brings, even though the ones actually warring are having fun and quite well know the odds and can beat them when all pitch in and work together. But no, the brainless crowd in the war listens to Tania and instead of actually supporting the warring ones, goes to save to hear her bitch about Alsius, NGD, other realms and the game in general. Now you take this and compare it to the morale-o-meter of the people who still keep warring and dying and you can imagine the animosity that develops towards ngd and other realms and the game when your own allies throw up the towel in the first two minutes.
3) The attitude of Tania towards other people., this is totally sick subject, don't want to name names and the things she bitch behind their backs, but any Alsius player who doesn't heed to her "Omg it's a FARM" call, and keeps fighting and dying, IS, an RP-whore in her eyes. That seems to bother her more than the actual fighting player., just so retarded.
In short, Tania is dividing Alsius, Tania is putting negativity in the minds, Tania is making people look at other people in the wrong way, Tania is .... sigh., you get the point.
So Tania, yes you, I'm calling out to you, you drove Alsius to this point, and I'm sure this strike is your idea too, and again the people listened to you., I want to tell you, QUIT ALSIUS. Without your retarded presence in the game, see how soon Alsius will pick up from the bad times. You are the bane of everything that is wrong in Alsius, stop RO completely or quit Alsius.
I've taken so much I could take of this player, seeing it day and night and had enough now, sorry if I come out as rude, but there is your truth on morale.
Outside of Tania, I do agree Alsius has bad times and has it phases, but I still believe we have the will to beat the odds and overcome adversities, IF AND ONLY, all pitch in, work together, think of the realm as a whole and spit out personal agendas out the window and stop listening to people like Tania.
Come on Alsius, start thinking on your own two feet.
Shwish
02-09-2012, 05:57 AM
A few years ago when I played in Syrtis, Alsius was in the exact same predicament as they are now. There was nothing NGD could do about it despite their efforts to make Alsius more attractive. I took it upon myself to start fresh in Alsius and take as much people from Syrtis with me as I could. Not long after hitting 50 in Alsius we managed to open the portal for the first time and became a force to be reckoned with.
My point is that you cant just stamp your feet and expect NGD to solve all these issues. They've done all they can for the alsius realm. Its up to the players to sort this issue out amongst themselves.
Ulti19
02-09-2012, 07:01 AM
@ remedy - I hate when the it's a farm !!! chant happens by players too, especially when the numbers are close and we can respawn at save. Even when it's 10 to 5 I have tons of fun playing at aggers for example. Calling players rp who*** to the enemy, just ignore that stuff, if anyone calls u or anyone a rp wh*** thinking you die too much to the enemy tell them to fk off:p.
I don't believe pointing fingers will solve anything though. Even if we did have a negative player, the people who listen to what that person says to do is the problem. People should play to have fun or since it's a game to win. It's like ww2, people blame hitler for everything, but it's people who carried it all out:p
Anyways, alsius, since so many think is in this condition, has to just shape up, have fun when we play, stop thinking of this game as our livelyhoods and play it to have some kind of entertainment and stop thinking so much on the negative. If you start by logging in and thinking today ur gonna get ur ass handed to you, then you're gonna get your ass handed to you. If there is a fort war, awesome join it, have fun playing and don't let any douchbag tell you what to do, even if you are losing. If you want to leave and go hunt or what i see happen alot, just sit at cs and whine about them cheating or us being underpopulated, go have fun hunting if you think it's a farm, don't discourage the rest of the team though. What annoys me is when I actually see the enemy dying and then when our wave respawns at cs players keep saying it's a farm. ofc it is, you believe you're going to lose. And when it actually is a farm, just go hunt, or take your 5 people and cap an empty fort or something.
Striking = fail because none of the new players who join would see this game as good, would see alsius as fun or would want to play a game where a realm goes on strike...
remedy
02-09-2012, 07:21 AM
@Ulti, I know, but the point is do we have so many mindless zombies in Alsius who can't see and judge what's happening in a war and assess the situation with their own brain instead of meekly following what Tania has to say...
They should support our frontline players who can bring a difference to the war and turn the tide instead of doing what they do, listen to some yackity yack moron. Also, a point of concern in Alsius for me is, TAG takes in many new players and those are groomed on the mentality of what Tania bitches in the clan, so as they level and become war capable, they already are graduates in judging people and players based on what bullshit Tania has fed them. And an even harder truth, most horses that come out of the TAG stable, can't race. I always wonder why is this.
I just want Alsius to hang around people willing to war, wanting to war, wanting to try and not give up, can name a ton right on the spot., the positives will beget the positives, all you need is the will, that is all.
Ulti19
02-09-2012, 07:38 AM
Remedy, if that kind of stuff is true, then leave those 'zombies' alone and focus on players who can think^^ And players who would join a clan like that only to hear bitching in clan, well a player who wants fun would simply quit that clan, if they like it well.. let em stay lol
If there are people discouraging new players from dying cause that's not pr0, it's up to the player to decide whether or not to listen to the person anyways. If anyone told me i die too much, I'd tell them they die too little and they should fight and stop chatting if they care that much about winning or losing in the first place.
Alsius needs the mentality to keep charging when numbers aren't off too badly, what we just need is to learn how to regroup better:p
And if the numbers are really bad for whatever reason, we need to find something other than bitching to do, that just annoys the players who want to keep fighting.
Thumbs up for ulti and ramedy. You are great guys!
For this years i play RO i still think problem of goats is in their low morale. When Horus started you was still low on numbers, BUT you was so so feared. Frozen flame and others was a WAR MACHINE. They was capable of killing enemy 2 - 3 times their number. Then they left, because of changes NGD made. Not because of farm, morale or other things.
We got a pretty good number of everything in Syrtis. Alot of us remember Tirsla. She/He stayed 24/7 on CS or runned with us. Spamming, trolling, swearing etc stuff. Everyone stopped to listen to her or even better we tried to flame her. And she left.
You are strong and if you are little more adventurous as Makarios says you will rock. He was little rude, but i think he made this to shake you up. Goats in RA was at alot worse situation and i never saw them do as you do. When i played there it was usual to see 10 vs 40+ at Pinos and Trelle. And we go there again and again. It was fun. In Znurre's clan everyone used Mumble, people was nice and funny. It was pleasure to fight and hunt with them.
Syrtis sux bad most of the times. Then we got no better athmosphere than you. Peple are nervous and swear. I can tell you how annoying is to yell constantly to those save campers to get back. If we gather a good team which fight good morale, fun raise no matter our numbers or if we win or loose.
We have a realm forum in which we talk about things. Not so nice sometimes, but it do the job. Part of it was a thread for announcing boss drops thread which was an awesome idea which parried some of bossdrop rage. Trading, strategy and setups sections are nice too.
Rising_Cold
02-09-2012, 09:08 AM
@Ulti, I know, but the point is do we have so many mindless zombies in Alsius who can't see and judge what's happening in a war and assess the situation with their own brain instead of meekly following what Tania has to say...
They should support our frontline players who can bring a difference to the war and turn the tide instead of doing what they do, listen to some yackity yack moron. Also, a point of concern in Alsius for me is, TAG takes in many new players and those are groomed on the mentality of what Tania bitches in the clan, so as they level and become war capable, they already are graduates in judging people and players based on what bullshit Tania has fed them. And an even harder truth, most horses that come out of the TAG stable, can't race. I always wonder why is this.
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Im dissapointed in the fact that people alsways say this, yet Tania never talks any 'shit' or whatever you want to call it, you judge a person and an entire clan by the fact you dont like it? How low can you possible go? Tag is a rich clan, we help the lower players and soon we will be war ready, we have been busy with this for a very long time and finally our players are getting in 50ish ready to show the other realms but mainly alsius that they r way to hard on us. Let us enjoy the game as friends, we like going arena and killing realm bosses, We dont like getting bitched on by players that dont know a single thing about us.
Just for the record, Tania is not the person in the clan that talks bad about other players, she is the one that tries to stop cheating and thats the only thing she gives her opinion about.
Rising_Cold
02-09-2012, 09:30 AM
The number one cause for all of Alsius' low morale is Tania.
1) A new player starts the game, gets some levels questing inner and after a day's work, manages to get around 20 assumingly. Then he is curious to see what the warzone is like, so eventually he steps out the gate asking people he could find about the things in warzone and proceeds to the save altar. You know what happens next? He finds Miss Tania there exactly alone with her breed of chat mongrons and the first thing he hears from our "war veterans of TAG" is "I smell a spy/multirealmer/blah blah". So how should that player feel at this point? And the funny thing is, this happens from the same player and same clan repeatedly., the same, always, just sickens me to see when new players are treated like this. If they didn't taunt the player yet, they would be bitching about him in their clan chat, planning on how to cork the screw.
3) The attitude of Tania towards other people., this is totally sick subject, don't want to name names and the things she bitch behind their backs,.
Sure blame it on tag, as always Im gonna tell you just how wrong you are..
If tania is our morale problem then all 'veteran players' are. For they will all tell you not to go somewhere outnumberd, or rush in, play without group etc.
The name facts, they tell us what their experience is so we may learn it faster and play a bit better.
In my opinion Tania boosts morale in her own way. Some people will try to prove her wrong (sounds like most people try) Where others benefit from her bad ping (which is the reason you will find her on alsius lands most of the time)
She talks in clan chat about everything and nothing which makes grinding and questing less boring.
She stimulates you to figure out strategies, use your brains, unlike most people in alsius do.
And she will offer a hand when a hunting group gets to oc/market area.
Tania is one of the many players that actually try to make alsius better. You say she points fingers at low lvl players in wz, or bitch around in clan chat.
Are you a member of TAG? ofc not for you would know this is not true at all, if you hear tania bitching about someone, it would be happening in your dreams. The only thing you will hear her say is, that and that person might use cheats, watch it next time.
Tania is actually very helpfull for lower lvl players and new players, she goes to inner reaguarly to help players with quests and also to help our lower lvl taggies grind.
Yes I know tania can come over as a pessimist sometimes, but who doesnt? I knwo you all sound like it now, and I know I sometimes say idiotic things. I use grinding to clear my mind most of the time, or justlog for a little. But thats quite hard when all your toons are 60 and as she sais: "Im allergic to grinding'
Overall alsius would be a bit worse without her, as it would be if any 'veteran player' or our appreciated newbies left.
Btw, who would encourage a lv20 player to go wz? You would tell him where the action was, how wz worked but that he should wait itll 30-40 before he should go to wz, questing would easily get him there and he would have more fun.. or do you like seeing players die and get frustrated cause they cant do a thing?
Now for the worst part of all, you assume you know what goes on inside tag, for goodness sake, join us and you will see we are social, tease each other till we dont know what to say and that you wont ever find you are the only person online, no matter what timezone. Not everyone talks cause they might be busy fighting or hunting.
What you also will never find is us saying bad things about our fellow alsirians. Do not rate tag as a criminal organisation just cause we r all friends and dont just participate in useless dying.
I ask you this: If you hate TAG so much at least give us reasons, and do not come with assumptions that you make because we talk in clan so much, I do not want others to know how much I failed at a heal, so I tell it in clan, not general at a save...
So please, if you want to piss on tag that much, make a thread in forum and Ill be happy to answer all your questions.
71175
02-09-2012, 09:47 AM
Conclusion: It seems that problems of goaties is in low morale and not in low numbers. I remember numerous times when Ignis with their "zerg" of 5 ppl was farmed by 10-15 or, sometimes, more goats. NOTE: There were almost none players from TAG, lulz? However it seems for me they always had at least 1-2 conjus, which were actually protected if not by goats but by themselfs. So, yes goats afraid to die xD .
Kellindil82
02-09-2012, 09:59 AM
Why noone talk about a solution or a suggestion?
For example guards and gates number and strength should depend on the actual population(ppl who logged in), xp bonus depends on actual population, change realm scroll for ximerin, or something like???
Usually ppl who strike demand something, what you want from NGD or from other realms? You don't say anything just STRIKE! This is mindless! How could anyone help you like this?
p.s.: respect ulti:)
time-to-die
02-09-2012, 10:32 AM
Usually ppl who strike demand something, what you want from NGD our from other realms? You don't say anything just STRIKE! This is mindless! How could anyone help you like this?
demit you are so demit smart! l
Problem is and i see same in Syrtis too. We tell "lets go samal - answer is we will die". It is game you go you fight yo die. Then return to CS and repeat. Nothing wrong in dieing - you loose no items or XP or even RP. You just die in game.
Last night(VeterKh will say fuuuuu) we gone several times to Samal even if it is Level 4. Ok Ignis upgraded it and we can not kill GC. We rushed to tower and tried to live as long as we can in there. Lasted 5 - 10 minutes maybe then - back to CS.
Next fights was on PB1 or limite, ignis came to Herb and died too. It was fun despite the dieing factor. If you can not hold the damn thing come in open or secondary fort. If you have bigger force well try something more challenging. Lately i see Meni, Meni, Meni. Dunno how ignis feel about your meni obsession, maybe grass is special there. :D
Previous week we saw even more - you camped Pinos whole day, because enemies constantly captured it. It was level 4 and so and so. Logic was they constantly come, we need to defend it and in fact they come to us - why to bother to go on offense. We even got some scans there was around 20 maybe who was doing nada, but smoking wheat with GC.
There is nothing bad if enemy captures your fort and you are on another one. When you die you go and you will recap. Even more enemy will be lured to save and you in regrouped state will kill campers and then will get fort easier. I actually miss those PP open bridge fights alot.
This is madness...this is sparta...erm...alsius! xD
P.S. At least guys if you are on strike bother to defend inner realm. Your lowers open threads in forum for being killed and impossible to grind there.
Hopeakettu
02-09-2012, 11:02 AM
Lately i see Meni, Meni, Meni. Dunno how ignis feel about your meni obsession, maybe grass is special there.
Not sure if you noticed, but Meni is the only red fort which actually has some grass around xD
Anyway, dying itself CAN be fun, unless it's constant banging your head to a wall made of a large zerg which is there just to farm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_mol6B9z00 :cuac:
No wonder that people rather go cap Meni then.
VeterKh
02-09-2012, 11:10 AM
Last night(VeterKh will say fuuuuu) we gone several times to Samal even if it is Level 4. Ok Ignis upgraded it and we can not kill GC. We rushed to tower and tried to live as long as we can in there. Lasted 5 - 10 minutes maybe then - back to CS.
you forget add smile :D i can't say this shitty couse you are one of the few who say interesting things. I respect such as you.
Unfortunately I can not be so because the language barrier.
PT_DaAr_PT
02-09-2012, 12:01 PM
Congratulations.
http://i.imgur.com/wdZks.png
Psynocide
02-09-2012, 12:02 PM
^ I'm not seeing much of a difference to be honest.
NotScias
02-09-2012, 12:04 PM
Congratulations x2 (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86440)
I don't think leaving the people that aren't aware of, or don't follow this movement, and the fresh begginers alone with the gate being vulnerable for all day and the overall Alsius inaction, is the right encouragement message that Alsius is needing right now.
pieceofmeat
02-09-2012, 12:19 PM
Half the time Syrtis moves around like locusts, farming both Ingis and Alsius.
I think both morale and attitude is quite good considering, a half broken rvr class balance, WM spell madness, and constant farm wars.
I barely enjoy fort wars if we are winning!
Try being invaded at night or morning and farmed all day for a couple of weeks and see how enthusiastic you would be over the prospect of going to war, when it often takes longer to run there than you will hold the damn fort.
When you happen to have a decent crew, you don’t get much action, only a long wait while their zerg is loading at CS. If you are lycky a few brave WM marksmen that dare to stand at max range and shoot, with hotw ready rush off.
My own attitude is shit, no question about it. Fakt of the matter is that I have more fun getting invaded, than I ever have going to Herbred or taking back Aggers from Syrtis.
VeterKh
02-09-2012, 12:20 PM
Congratulations x2 (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86440)
like Frosk said Hi!
I don't really understand the nature of your problem, but I think it's coming from the fact that you've been reading complaints and "nothing seems to improve".
Starting from this, I say:
Keep in mind that you can't tell how the game goes by just reading complaints and stuff like that, specially when it comes to pathetic "beings" that like to troll everyone (or at least they try, due to the huge amount of free-time these beings have in their lives; if they have lives), basically because whining it's simple and easy, does not require any ability or thinking and it's a lot more easier than building up a suggestion.
Fun fact is that if you get to ban these users, they whine and cry out because of this; so in these cases the best thing to do is to keep ignoring and reporting. Simple as that.
Oh, and by the way, this does not only happens with Horus and the english forum. It's quite a normal fact when a forum is meant to contain a really big user database, and even more if the forum is related to something popular or where people compete with each other.
As a quick example, you can check out the Spanish version of this forum, and you'll find random threads about how Regnum is going to end very soon, or that the 2008 version was far better, or even complaints saying that the whole game's going down because a specific user couldn't figure out how to send a ticket to our Support system; but when you log-in, the amount of users and server activity recalls something completely different.
As a tip, never take a single user's personal opinion and perspective as a true fact, especially if his/her past posts weren't something you can call "useful". This also applies to subgroups of users that gathers up those same characteristics.
Always try to get the info by investigating in a more personal way, or by gathering multiple opinions from different points of view (people from different ages, realms, etc.)
Regards!
he don't understand
makarios68
02-09-2012, 01:49 PM
I remember one time on the Ra server when Alsius seemed to be suffering from lack of morale, getting pawned all the time by larger enemy zergs.
This is how they responded: the clan leaders got together and decided that the realm needed something to boost morale. We decided we would change all clan ranks to the slogan "Alsius Power!" and fight the enemy with real grit and determination, to the death, to the bitter end.
It actually worked wonders. It was like a rally call to all the Alsius players and they did indeed fight harder and better.
I'm not suggesting that Alsius Horus do exactly the same thing and it will solve all their problems. My point is that it is a question of attitude. Look at the contrast between the above and the way the Horus players have dealt with a similar situation: a strike!
The experienced players of Alsius Horus need to put aside any differences they have, put their heads together and lead the rest of the realm towards a more positive and agressive attitude.
Even your own players admit that when you have a large army, you lack a desire for war. This is a problem of attitude which stems from the top and spreads downwards and outwards, until it affects the whole realm.
While a negative attitude prevails, its no wonder that you lack numbers - people will log off or go elsewhere.
You ask NGD to do something about your lack of numbers (though i haven't seen it clearly stated anywhere what you want them to do). However, i think you should look closer to home for the answer to your problems.
Rising_Cold
02-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Usually ppl who strike demand something, what you want from NGD or from other realms? You don't say anything just STRIKE! This is mindless! How could anyone help you like this?
You prolly didnt notice, but an entire letter was written, with requests, as we put it WE are in NO position to demand something of NGD, we merely point out how dead alsius could get.
Rising_Cold
02-09-2012, 02:06 PM
I remember one time on the Ra server when Alsius seemed to be suffering from lack of morale, getting pawned all the time by larger enemy zergs.
This is how they responded: the clan leaders got together and decided that the realm needed something to boost morale. .
The problem: try getting some clans to work together, thats more work then you would have to put into boosting the morale to be honest.. {which will take a lot of time and energie}
Psynocide
02-09-2012, 02:16 PM
This is less of a strike, more so a mass rage-quit - essentially, a complete inefficacious waste of time.
Enjoy it though all the same though.
_Enio_
02-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Actually this fits better here i think:
Well i love fights (esp. at agg) vs bigger numbers when you have a few that work together trying to split and lure enemies into overextending. It only gets tedious when allies dont know how to achieve it and still dont read general chat with explainations or give up/fallback onto whining in these cases. Then you might catch me actually swearing, but rarely.
It requires alot of self control from any ally, especially low range ones, and even just 1 failing at retreating in the right moment can draw the rest into death as noone wants to leave someone die and run or poses the target for an area cc which wasnt in direct target range before.
Its quite fun though and i propose evryone to see it as a challenge in low pop times to outsmart the zerg and work towards your bunch of kills via such metagames. There any of your actions really count, it actually matters as theres low space for errors, on the other hand you directly get feedback on what went wrong allowing direct improvement.
Tl;DR: Controlled offensive retreats and position play as a group shape your teamwork and positional and general awareness (imho what defines a good player in RO) and you can learn alot outta it. And its fun.
Klutu
02-09-2012, 02:42 PM
I was not made aware of this alsius strike meeting
I guess that means i fight alone :(
Ok i will repost after Enio too:
Syrtis...syrtis tend to build zerg in time.
Usually forts are taken by normal or not so large group of players. Rare by huge one. If they manage to keep the fort longer there is a trail of players who see fort is taken and start to gather.
Longest we keep fort the bigger zerg becomes. Even more - people get more campy, so they are easier to lure and kill near saves and stuff.
Sooo how to deal Syrtis zergs? When they get fort try to repel as soon as possible and block bridge connecting fort with gelf land. You can guard fort surrounding area too.
Maybe this is not so accurate and easy to achieve, but as syrtis player i see it like that.
Another things if our forts are safe zerg gets sleepy and grindy. Most of our grinders react fast by switching chars if our forts are in danger. If they are bored they stay at war.
So in general if our forts are captured this helps build zerg too.
P.S. I prefer Hippies vs Gelfs. Erm in fact both describe Syrtis good. :D
@Enio i'm swearing(and some more around) from the other side trying to pull them back and make them not follow those lure attempts. It is so hard sometimes. Alot conjus and support dies usually in those panic fall backs after if others do not cover and protect those who are left behind.
_Enio_
02-09-2012, 02:51 PM
Ok i will repost after Enio too:
@Enio i'm swearing(and some more around) from the other side trying to pull them back and make them not follow those lure attempts. It is so hard sometimes. Alot conjus and support dies usually in those panic fall backs after if others do not cover and protect those who are left behind.
I have to admit, it works best vs Syrtis xD
As it requires the same amount of awareness and self control to defend it, and the bigger and more chaotic a zerg (Syrtis) the less likely you find it.
Edit:
@Tutu: Sadly i got zero time atm but hell, soon. Looking forward to wreck some havoc with ya!
Huhuhu usually best lure attempts are from PP road who lead to forests - market direction. This for me is because forests hide numbers and we are less aware what happens around. From other side it splits those on road from those in woods leading to pure chaos. :D
/me slaps Enio around with a big infected chickin!
makarios68
02-09-2012, 03:01 PM
The problem: try getting some clans to work together, thats more work then you would have to put into boosting the morale to be honest.. {which will take a lot of time and energie}
Dude, morale can't be improved much if the clans don't work together. You are all on the same side, fighting a bigger enemy than yourselves.
This is precisely the way your time and energy should be spent.
Horus one can be - "GOAT POWA!" xD
It was mentioned before time from goat player because of something. Forgot the nick.
EDIT: It was Jippy and actual text was something like GOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAT POWAAAAAAAAAA.
_Enio_
02-09-2012, 03:22 PM
Huhuhu usually best lure attempts are from PP road who lead to forests - market direction. This for me is because forests hide numbers and we are less aware what happens around. From other side it splits those on road from those in woods leading to pure chaos. :D
/me slaps Enio around with a big infected chickin!
Depends on the sizes or rather the amount of WMs in group vs zerg when your that far away from your save.
In general when your greatly outnumbered it works best to fight between 2 points with growing risk for the enemy the more you retreat to force a split or a retreat of the enemy, so you either can attack the remainders or retreat into safety. Agg - save is perfect as youll meet rezzing allies aswell as getting closer to GC, pproad - market forces less commitment for the enemy when your severely outnumbered, more prone to get caught by overwhelming Horn on enemy side but yeah, the woods can always nicely be used for flanc attacks or ambushs.
Agg+surroundings is just the perfect area for fun fights.
pieceofmeat
02-09-2012, 03:22 PM
None like us!
They cant zerg us in game, so they do it here.
We should just stop posting as well. That would show them!
71175
02-09-2012, 03:25 PM
None like us!
They cant zerg us in game, so they do it here.
We should just stop posting as well. That would show them!
Show what? that u just ignorant whiners and, perhaps, attention whores? Everyone knows this.
There are 3 realms, so 2 are left. We can fight between which proved to be fun last night. Generally who seek wh*re coins are left with 1k. All others have no problems with that.
--
True Enio - crushing point is to split zerg in two. One part near save and second around fort. It usually happens after several lure attempts. Who are more campy go there despite of warnings - usually without support. All others simply afk at fort. If in same time there is second lure attempt from PP road things get really screwed.
Dunno why, but this forest lures are strange. Usually after them we loose fort. Are you sure there are no shamans in woods who mumble with hippie heads?
71175
02-09-2012, 03:32 PM
All others have no problems with that.
All others are already WM xD
Kyrottimus
02-09-2012, 03:39 PM
Do I think the strike is a good idea? No. Not at all.
Do I agree with it? No. Not at all.
That being said, I do share in the frustrations of Alsius lately. All you non-alsius people who (WHATTAYA MEAN BY "PEOPLE"? HUH? xD) love to sit and second guess the motivations of the players without one shred of objectivity need to shut the hell up.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, and it's sad. Play Alsius as your main realm, every day, for a few months and you'll actually have the foundational perspective to have a valid opinion on how our realm functions. Until then, shhh.
Here's the situation: Even before this strike nonsense came up, at least on night-crew, the paultry 5 or 6 active high-levels who were on could not effectively do ANYTHING.
Could not cap/hold a fort. Could not clear a bridge. Could not clear our grind zones or our fricken market ffs.
Before this strike started, during the day (our greatest "zerg" hours), Ignis killed Thorkul, and about 9 Alsius couldn't do jack to stop it.
Yes, Alsius has zerged, and in fact opened the portal like, 4 or 5 times (wewhoo!! go Alsius!), but more often than not, at least the hours I can squeeze in playing after work, it's a ghost town.
Before the strike, or after, it makes no difference.
The clans have tried working together. We've tried organising events, invasions and promoting fights by going to either samal or herb.
I have attempted in the past (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85355) to start constructive threads regarding the realm population imbalance situation.
Few took it seriously, so those of us who have made conscious efforts in the past to work as a game community to resolve known problems get a little jaded.
People take this "enemy realm" shit too seriously. It's a game. We're all in it together. If one group of players have a problem, wouldn't it be mature to try to understand it first before trolling them, prodding them and trying to make them quit?
I don't understand this. It's like showing up to a sports game as a player and provoking the other team to forfeit just so you can win by default. WTF? Didn't you start playing that sport to actually be able to PLAY it? Isn't it supposed to be fun and challenging? What the hell is with all this "win at all costs" crap lately?
Again, not saying the strike was a good idea but I do understand the frustration leading up to it.
And no, getting raped over and over again and being rendered absolutely helpless over and over and over again is NOT fun. Knight can be kinda fun in this situation because you take it on yourself as sorta a personal challenge to see how long you can survive.
But for everyone else, major suckage. But personally I'm beyond trying to affect change here. This is just venting. Whenever I get frustrated at the war element of the game, I grind an alt, help clanmates, trade or log out and do something else.
Trying to get anyone in Alsius to work together or coordinate is a lesson in futility. So I play casually, fight when I can, but usually die horribly to vastly superior numbers and coordination. Repeatedly.
Personally I'm only still playing this game because it's the only decent MMO for Linux. The day a serious MMO comes out with a native-linux client I'll def enjoy the prospect of hope in something that might shape up to actually be fun, challenging and most-important, balanced.
--Kyro
P.S. You smell. Yes, you. No, the other one. The one in the corner. What is that? Baby food? My god man...napkins! Can someone help him please? ohhhhhh... :facepalm3:
(that's kinda how I feel in Alsius every day xD)
_Enio_
02-09-2012, 03:40 PM
Dunno why, but this forest lures are strange. Usually after them we loose fort. Are you sure there are no shamans in woods who mumble with hippie heads?
Sorry, thats secret goat information i cant share <3
If i think a little after Syrtian forum was made things in realm at least between higher players got little better. You can try this too. Security of some topics is still problem, but who cares actually.
L1nky
02-09-2012, 04:01 PM
I see close to my home and what i see is.. desert.. Hey am i in the wrong realm? nah it's just Alsius don't have players, that's it. Are you all good to criticize a situation that's is not yours, we showed a problem and most of you all just pointed finger... so who want a medal?
We made this experiment, what happens if one realm of 3 does not exist?
Isn't forum made for shows problems? Well we have a problem.. old, very old problem and still ngd say: what?
Ok so strike proved it's all about Alsius morale? Good we have a point to start with.
i've been played for a bit and like some of us already said, this is not first crisis, we fight with it on every day, in the last years i saw every kind of strategy to get up from this situation, strike is another kind of, prolly wrong; but at least new.
What we got from strike?
We took break, we watch, we speak about it, we will regroup and get up again as always done before.
Again, always glad to have good fight as lot of time had, thanks to ally and enemy: to bridge, on towers or pb:P and Meni.. meni we love it for.. yes nice grass, especially hay next to meni beach, so tasty :P and lot of time nice equal fights at door, that's fun, for me at least. Not fun is run more then have fights, from cs to agg, if wanted run game i would like to play gran prix or some "racing" game not RvR..
treehuger
02-09-2012, 04:23 PM
As a mostly Ra player,i was not avere of Horus situation :ohill: Realm population balance is a problem in any RvR game,sure...Alsirian on strike...by what i read,this hasnt come over night,so i do beileve them,horus is a small world it would seem,other 2 realms should not take this strike so likely,some posts were even not polite.Alsirians just might have done it and will kill a very fragile world of horus.Next in line will be ignis since sirtys have the upper hand?You should be more concern (all 3,or rather say 2 realms remaining?! :ohill: ) But as a realy non efected player by the situation,who will u people play in the end anyway? :facepalm3: Trees? ;)
Kellindil82
02-09-2012, 05:06 PM
You prolly didnt notice, but an entire letter was written, with requests, as we put it WE are in NO position to demand something of NGD, we merely point out how dead alsius could get.
And where we can read that letter? And why you don't let me kill the noble once you strike?:) It seemed like to me Alsius did a great job to protect him even without the help of strikers! Mb the strikers are the problem of alsius?
Torcida
02-09-2012, 05:07 PM
looks like Regnum is at his lowest level like.... ever..
Castingbeast
02-09-2012, 05:16 PM
looks like Horus-Alsius* is at his lowest level like.... ever..
Fixed :P
Yes it seems like.
Ulti19
02-09-2012, 05:19 PM
We're on strike!!! ...
stop striking and get ur butts in game so we can pwn:p
Imagine the group we could have if we weren't.
PT_DaAr_PT
02-09-2012, 05:25 PM
We're on strike!!!
Imagine the group we could have if we weren't.
I'm undecided whether strike breakers in this case can be considered realm traitors or not.
standistortion
02-09-2012, 05:25 PM
Where is your regulation fire in an oil barrel and placards? You need those if your going to picket that bridge :P
No word from DMC yet, I'm a poor substitute but....
Was this strike timed by players to match testing on amun and so the posts are likely to be read or was it timed by the dev's because the new island is a fix for realm imbalance and it highlights their work? ;)
Hopeakettu
02-09-2012, 05:31 PM
I'm undecided whether strike breakers in this case can be considered realm traitors or not.
I'd rather appreciate their will to fight rather than call them realm traitors. Nobody was forced to join the strike and nobody has the right to call them realm traitors for that.
EDIT: For those who haven't noticed the link somewhere near the beginning of this thread - http://tag-ee.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/12182368-email-to-ngd (and don't forget to let us "whiners" know what's bad about it)
Gabburtjuh
02-09-2012, 05:42 PM
I'd rather appreciate their will to fight rather than call them realm traitors. Nobody was forced to join the strike and nobody has the right to call them realm traitors for that.
My broken sarcasm meter meter says your sarcasm meter seems broken dawg
_Emin_
02-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Did you already know NGD doesn't care about Horus?
makarios68
02-09-2012, 05:58 PM
Did you already know NGD doesn't care about Horus?
Completely untrue. Why would they not care about part of their livelihood?
eztocrip
02-09-2012, 06:25 PM
NGD definitely cares about horus Period.
PT_DaAr_PT
02-09-2012, 06:37 PM
EDIT: For those who haven't noticed the link somewhere near the beginning of this thread - http://tag-ee.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/12182368-email-to-ngd (and don't forget to let us "whiners" know what's bad about it)
Who exactly sent this email? And did everyone in Alsius give their consent to be represented by this?
I hate to break it to you... Actually, I don't, I love shoving reality into people's faces. The demands in that email sound more like they're coming from 1 well known person rather than from an entire realm of players in compromise.
1) we would like you to remove the IP block on horus to allow it to grow better.currently we see none to few new players coming through.
I guess she is.. err, I mean, you people are refering to the US block mentioned in the fourth paragraph of the email.
In case you don't know:
http://i.imgur.com/42nnp.png
Every other block has a reason to exist. There are other servers available for those people. I don't entirely agree with those restrictions either, but it's just how their contracts with their partners have been made, they can't change it. In case of the Argentinian block, Horus is not ready for a swarm of Spanish players.
2)we would like you to manage the realm balance in a better way than you currently are.we want to see you close off any new accounts to the largest realm.so that only new accounts can choose between the 2 smaller realms.once there are 2 realms the same size,then only one option is left any new accounts made.upon reaching balance in populations you then remove the blocks on any new accounts until the time arrives we reach an inbalance again.
we want to see you do this in 2 ways,first and foremost rate a realms population NOT by its amount of accounts registered to that realm,but more from the amount of war zone actives it has,level 50+ and active in last 7 days.2ndly take into consideration the amount of level 50 characters that are inactive.
This has been discussed so often on these forums, clearly somebody has not done any research. Forcing new players to join a certain realm is only going to cause more population issues. You don't know the person's time zone nor at what times he's going to be online, you're not going to solve any population problems by just focusing on 1 realm's issues. The current bonuses at the realm selection screen are enough to give new players the incentive to play in the average underpopulated realm at the time. The calculation IS NOT taking registered accounts into consideration, it's the players above level 30(Including grinders, boss campers, multi-accounts, not just the people you see showing up at war) weekly activity that is counted.
3)we want to see you come down harder on cheats,again today syrtis took a gem over the wall instead of through the gates.you are not seen as being very strict.the people who cheat have no reason to stop doing it,they know you will not do a thing.prevention is far better than cure NGD,its becoming very depressing for us to sit and watch them cheat knowing you will not act.
4)we want and NEED alot of the bugs and glitches fixed.we know this is hard in alot of cases but it appears to us that you are doing nothing.need we list all the glitches/bugs dating back years?
You(In plural!) is so cute! :sifflote:
This is from yesterday:
Preliminary changelog updated. Check "Gameplay - Collisions" section.
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=1522078&postcount=1
See, NGD does love you.
We thank you for taking the time to read this email and sincerely hope that you take this as it was intended,that is,a warning that without a third realm the whole game can fall apart.we dont want to see that happen,we have all invested alot of time and effort and in some cases alot of money.we would like to try and work with you to make horus a better place to play for every realm
Exactly, just listen to this poor testimony from Syrtis (You're their favorite farmed animal*, as stated by many of you):
I have no problem with it. We got tons of fun with Samal - Stone ping-pong. The only one who will be worse is your realm and your grinders. Low levels will learn and will prefer Syrtis and Ignis. WM quests...pff...sooner or later everyone will become one.
This strike is really not the right thing to do. ;)
*get it? coz ur goats! XD THIS JOKE HAS NEVER BEEN DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Psynocide
02-09-2012, 06:46 PM
I recognize that lack of punctuation anywhere.
Pnarpa
02-09-2012, 06:47 PM
http://puesoccurrences.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/alot.png?w=450&h=337
Anyriand
02-09-2012, 07:38 PM
I wanted to see how far this would go before posting about this strike, and I must say it seems I was right in my predictions. This strike is making alsius' problem even worse...
I've been playing Alsius Horus for well over 3 years, and we've always had lows , but with this strike we just hit a new low, far worse than ever before. I for once will not play while we're being invaded and there's not one single online player in my friends' list. I will not war if that's the case.
There is only one thing you will achieve with this: making Alsius even more inactive than we already are.
And lets not even mention how ridiculous it is to have a strike in a game...c'mon people, it's just a game. :facepalm3:
Edit: One last thing i forgot to mention, though it has been mentioned several times before in this thread.
Think about our noobs!! We're getting invaded not once but several times each night now, our lower lvls can't grind, can't quest, can't level up. They will ragequit, and since they're such low lvls they will not think twice about switching realms, to one that doesn't suck and doesn't get invaded for hours on end while the higher level players are on strike!
Klutu
02-09-2012, 07:49 PM
This realm strike bullshit needs to stop. It's actually pathetic and makes me feel like i'm wasting my time trying to enjoy this game while immature players would rather protest the main aspect of the game (War)
Instead of complaining to NGD and whining on the forums about how unfair the game is and Alsius can't win fights try learning to actually tactically and intelligently out smart your enemy and win wars
Alsius has terrible communication in war which causes a lot of our problems, We have 3-4 shouting for a regroup while half solo run to the fort to get murdered by range.
This "Realm Imbalance" garbage were hearing is complete stupidity alsius 1+ years ago was a Underpopulated wasteland against a daytime army of Syrtis & Night time invasions from Ignis, Alsius just got crushed
NGD can't help Alsius win wars only the players in Alsius can do that.
Having our Zerg clan (TAG) leading this "strike" is just pathetic and i have lost respect for anyone being apart of it.
Worse zerg than Syrtis zerg??? :crying1:
Rising_Cold
02-09-2012, 08:12 PM
Having our Zerg clan (TAG) leading this "strike" is just pathetic and i have lost respect for anyone being apart of it.
Who told you TAG leads it? Im just only one that pays attention to forum and tries to explain why we do this. For your information, a lot of clans took part in the 'making of' and others joined afterwards, also the lettter was written DOWN by Tania, yet they discussed it on a forum/chat with eachother...
{How come every1 always blames bad things on TAG, we r like the alsius pisspole... Other realms have that?}
Gabburtjuh
02-09-2012, 08:13 PM
This realm strike bullshit needs to stop. It's actually pathetic and makes me feel like i'm wasting my time trying to enjoy this game while immature players would rather protest the main aspect of the game (War)
Instead of complaining to NGD and whining on the forums about how unfair the game is and Alsius can't win fights try learning to actually tactically and intelligently out smart your enemy and win wars
Alsius has terrible communication in war which causes a lot of our problems, We have 3-4 shouting for a regroup while half solo run to the fort to get murdered by range.
This "Realm Imbalance" garbage were hearing is complete stupidity alsius 1+ years ago was a Underpopulated wasteland against a daytime army of Syrtis & Night time invasions from Ignis, Alsius just got crushed
NGD can't help Alsius win wars only the players in Alsius can do that.
Having our Zerg clan (TAG) leading this "strike" is just pathetic and i have lost respect for anyone being apart of it.
We used to try that, but due to WM shit, numbers >> skill instead of the previous just numbers > skills.....
PT_DaAr_PT
02-09-2012, 08:18 PM
We used to try that, but due to WM shit, numbers >> skill instead of the previous just numbers > skills.....
Alsius can't skill other than Knock down, Freeze, Immobilize, Dizzy and Stun effects?
standistortion
02-09-2012, 08:21 PM
This realm strike bullshit needs to stop. It's actually pathetic and makes me feel like i'm wasting my time trying to enjoy this game while immature players would rather protest the main aspect of the game (War)
It sounds like a lot of folks feel like they are wasting their time trying to enjoy this game and joining in this strike because of it. Remedy's post (http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1523697&postcount=73) summed up my feelings on TAG too, Tania's CS dancing during aggs farming annoyed the hell out of me and the 'to much lag' excuse is just lame, I play on 3g ffs.
Alsius has terrible communication in war which causes a lot of our problems, We have 3-4 shouting for a regroup while half solo run to the fort to get murdered by range.
As far as I can see thats a recent thing, since warmasters much of Alsius experienced population has left, the new Alsius players don't see tactics working and it feels like 'suicide goat commando' is the new Alsius play style. I tried for a long time to get folks onto mumble, tried to explain to new players that Alsius has to many clans already when they where looking for help to create yet another, spent months inner supporting grinders with my conj. I know from experience that was all a waste of time, the game mechanics are forcing imbalance between realms, no amount of perseverance can get Alsius players to warmaster as fast as Syrtis players can get to warmaster.
pieceofmeat
02-09-2012, 09:04 PM
If you believe Tania has that much negative impact, then you are more disillusioned than she/he is.
PT_DaAr_PT
02-09-2012, 09:17 PM
If you believe Tania has that much negative impact, then you are more disillusioned than she/he is.
The people trashing Tania are loaded with plenty of valid reasons. Could you explain exactly why do you think they are disillusioned? Maybe they could be, all you have to do is prove them wrong.
pieceofmeat
02-09-2012, 09:28 PM
The people trashing Tania are loaded with plenty of valid reasons. Could you explain exactly why do you think they are disillusioned? Maybe they could be, all you have to do is prove them wrong.
They have valid reason to believe that new players or anyone are not equipped with functional brains that cant filter bullshit?
I dont really get what you asking of me, I just think its absurd that a single player is pointed out as the no1 reason for "bad morale" in Alsius.
Maybe they are not the heroes they think, having time to stand at save and listen to it.
UmarilsStillHere
02-09-2012, 09:45 PM
Hilarious thread. This is a Free to Play online game, not America during the workers rights movement, you can't strike for your employer to give you better conditions in a online game that they're providing to you to use for free.
Taking half the realms players and bugging off will do nothing whatsoever other than leave your other realm mates to die.
Ulti, SoL and others fought really really furious today. You are great guys. If you have a conju or two we really got no chance.
+10000000000 to you guys!
Ulti19
02-09-2012, 11:18 PM
Had tons of fun, we should strike more often xD
-Aniara-
02-09-2012, 11:37 PM
Sorry it is not possible to solve Alsius problems by playing smarter or by boosting moral. We are too few.
And that's it.
When u no longer can kill the dragon, take forts, ever defend realm or get your wz boss killed by other realms you come dangerously near the point of why bother at all?
There is nothing for us to do. (well we can kill Thorburn i guess)
So we lose even more players We risk to soon be past the point of no return.
Horus need some loving!
Hugs
/Aniara
Hopeakettu
02-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Ani! :clapclap: Hail to the Vikings! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5w262XvCU :viking:> :angel1:
Awrath
02-09-2012, 11:52 PM
Sorry it is not possible to solve Alsius problems by playing smarter or by boosting moral. We are too few.
But... striking doesn't solve Alsius' problems either, if anything it further increases their problems. The smaller number of Alsius who are now being farmed and constantly invaded, well, they literally stand no chance now since most of the high levels have buggered off on a ridiculous strike.
Do the strikers seriously believe that striking is the answer to problems in Alsius? And please don't tell me I wont understand why you strike until I play in Alsius, I'm sure the Alsius players still playing in Alsius currently don't understand why you strike themselves.
Right now there's probably new Alsius players and some old being farmed and invaded thanks to this strike, and you seriously think it'll help your situation? Older players will resent those who "strike" newer players will leave etc etc... So if you strike in the interest of Alsius, I'm afraid to tell you that the only thing this strike will achieve is a further negative impact on Alsius.
I first thought it was a joke -_- but then discover you're serious. I think NGD should go on strike for putting up with this crap. Unless they have a magic wand that automatically fixes all realm and class balance issues.
(Edit: Sorry, not an attack on you Ani, but the strikers as a whole).
Ulti19
02-09-2012, 11:55 PM
Sorry it is not possible to solve Alsius problems by playing smarter or by boosting moral. We are too few.
And that's it.
When u no longer can kill the dragon, ever defend realm or get your wz boss killed by other realms you come dangerously near the point of why bother at all?
There is nothing for us to do. (well we can kill Thorburn i guess)
So we lose even more players We risk to soon be past the point of no return.
Horus need some loving!
Hugs
/Aniara
That's exactly a reason why we'd lose, thinking can't do anything except kill thorburn:p. We can kill dragon, every saturday I see almost 30 of us. We took plenty of forts today even though it was a strike day lol, I even saw a time where we had 15 on and outnumbered ignis at a fort.
Ofc during sometimes of the day we are outnumbered, but during other times of the day we have many on.
Klutu
02-10-2012, 12:16 AM
All Alsius needs is me to get lvl 60 ;)
Ill solve "Balance" 1 idiotic rush at a time!
Pwnography
02-10-2012, 01:17 AM
Ill solve "Balance" 1 idiotic rush at a time!
Terminator, is that you? :p
-Aniara-
02-10-2012, 01:34 AM
Ulti, its all fine but it takes us hours to get enough ppl too kill dragon, i dunno how many banners i wasted on that. And 50% we fail to even get enough, and the ones trying spent 2 hours looking at a sleeping dragon. Not very fun.
Forts, yes when we have the most players on we can take and hold forts for a while, but during long span of time we cant. If u happen to play then its not very fun.
If u play during farms at Agg/Trelle well that is really demoralising for new players. Opponents constantly under beacons, rushing barbs usually have DI too making it really hard to get any kills at all. (i dont blame players for this, i do blame beacons for rendering my lock close to useless at zerg wars).
And when newbies eagerly asks when we will invade? well :(
With so low realm numbers we cant take part of the games main attractions.
And as this strike do show it either had support from majority of goats or we are just really, really few. Either way actions should be taken.
/Aniara
Anyriand
02-10-2012, 02:57 AM
Hilarious thread. This is a Free to Play online game, not America during the workers rights movement, you can't strike for your employer to give you better conditions in a online game that they're providing to you to use for free.
Taking half the realms players and bugging off will do nothing whatsoever other than leave your other realm mates to die.
THIS, my thoughts exactly xD
Funny thing is, I see lots of Alsius' players complaining about this and joining this strike, but not the ones who REALLY get zerg and suffer the most from underpopulation...you know, the usual 5 that try to retake our forts at night time when ignis tries to invade us, the usual 5 that try to defend the gates or the noble... those guys who are unfortunate enough to play late at night when Alsius has the lowest population...
Instead, I see people who fight 15 vs 20 at aggs, think they have no chance and wanna go take shaan instead...
Tania_The_Witch
02-10-2012, 04:27 AM
This is very sad to see so many negative comments about me here,appears you dont have much of a life that you can waste your time on the likes of me huh?
for the record,i was appointed by the real people who organised this strike,to be the focus of any out rage that may occour.do you really think alsius would follow me,your more delusioned than you make me out to be if you even remotely consider that to be a possibility!
now i would like to thank the people who tried in vain to defend me here in this place of sin,where losers with no life can be something they lack in real life.I thank you bunches guys and love you!.i want to tell you off at the same time too.you made me spend endless hours of reading,mostly of which i got read how ieti and enio preffered to talk about how they can beat a zerg instead of the issues at hand here.i guess they needed a place to brag.as for Klutu,hes in my ignore list,in all probability hes a 40 year old man living with mommy still,i i do not value his opinions what so ever.got to love iggy bins huh :)
NOW why i have come back,90% of you have missed the point here,totally.i just hope ngd dont miss the point too,or its been a wasted exercise and will only see many alsius quit.
We made this strike,for the reasons outlined in the email,its no secret and open for all to view.we didnt strike to make change instantly,we did it to prove a point.Any of you who disagree with the daily stats,are delusional yourself as they cant be denied,contrary to what many of you claim here in forums,we had the support of the majority of alsius.if we didnt,the stats would tell differently.
now instead of name calling,btw sticks and stones may break my bones bla bla.Lets get serious for a moment.
lets think outside the small worlds we live in here in RO and think of the bigger picture here.we showed what could happen if one realm dosnt exist,in just a 2 day no log in policy.ive seen evidence already to prove what we are saying needs changing.
ok and people like remedy,who are you coward who hides in a new name to make such slanderous statements,then hide behind a name that protects you.
now lastly,why do you all think im someone im not,it was funny at first,then it become tedious now its just down right insulting that you use my name here and in game.saying im this person and that,are your lives so non existant that you like to pick on women.how macho,you make your parents proud i bet!
i will admit i have at times asked a friend to post comments for me here since i was banned nearly 3 years ago,she hasnt always done a great job of it either.so dream on and look more foolish by accusing others of being me.Heck i could name 30 names in enemy realms now that im meant to be.its humbling when i think you care so much about me that you devote so much time towards me,but please stop.i wont be sleeping with you,nor will i cam so dream on and get a life,or more to the point get your own house and leave your mommy! lmfao
Klutu
02-10-2012, 04:46 AM
as for Klutu,hes in my ignore list,in all probability hes a 40 year old man living with mommy still,i i do not value his opinions what so ever.got to love iggy bins huh :)
40 years old really?... Try 19 sweetheart
Secondly i began arguing with you because you think you're "Strike" was a big success and it proved a point to NGD and there gonna fix the game for you and make a statue of you for your valor..
You did nothing but make everyone in Alsius look like complete retards and pathetic losers on the Forum with your clans stupidity and the others who joined in on this letter and strike bullshit. I'm sure any member of NGD that reads it will laugh their ass off and wipe their ass with it.
3rd of all you call me & others pathetic with no life.. Yet you are the one who doesn't do anything in this game other then use it as a means of socializing, You don't war and if you do the second you die you dance at the save and talk about how someone cheated or how you got zerged.
You also must have some imagination telling me & double how we should such each others dick some imagination eh pedo tania?
Feel free to walk into oncoming traffic you failure of a troll
Klutu
Ulti19
02-10-2012, 05:15 AM
Wait a minute...
If we, alsius are so underpopulated, thus the strike...
then striking would not really change the game at all...
since, there would be like no one to strike...
xD
On a serious note, i saw tons of players from Alsius today online. Sure we can't get a zerg like ignis did tonight and invade, but hey, the greens got zerged and had their gems stolen and noble murdered and they had no chance to fight back! Does not make them underpopulated. This is a timezone game, always has been, if you log in at certain parts of the day, others have more than others. I do agree alsius has the least out of all three for the majority of the time, that's not even debatable. But there will be times when we're the ones zerging left right and center and ignis or syrtis will whine and moan about being underpopulated and game imbalance. This happens every year, I don't know why people don't see the cycle ro has. Play this game to have fun, if it stresses you out to a point of creating strikes... for a f2p game then find something that makes you happy. Alot of players had fun today, even some noobs i never met before were having fun trying to cap aggers back, that's what it's supposed to be like imo. I love when a lv 30 ally feints a lv 60 char I'm trying to kill:)
LucianDeathshield
02-10-2012, 06:24 AM
/me looks at all unique alsius posters
your not as underpopulated as you think:sleep_1:
Tania_The_Witch
02-10-2012, 06:39 AM
for one dont call me sweetheart,to me you are scum,secondly are you retarded,dude just because you were excluded from taking part,due to your total worthlessness,dosnt mean it didnt achieve anything.
read the stats for last 2 days and tell us that dosnt speak volumes.
fact 1.no person was made to join,no clan member or realm member,each worthy person was asked to join,and a few were missed due to time zones.in your case,we chose not include you as you really suck.
fact 2.if you cant work out what the stats meant for the last 2 days,you are either retarded or a multi realmer wanting to protect your rp farms.
fact 3.this game is for business not fun,fun comes second.
what kind of business would ngd have if alot of alsius left.horus would die fast,and thats the point we tried to make and DID make too.
fact 4.Klutu is a nub and worthy of my ignore bin as he prolly plays in other realms in his absence from alsius.
fact 5.you call me a pedo,ive screen shot that will seek advice.you have no right to slander me in such a way when its untrue.
fact 6.we had these same issues with pack of bastids clan in alsius,they were all syrtis players.not loyal and would swap realms when they needed.
fact 7.im expecting a ban,since i called you names and you will cry to ngd,but since i dont cry to ngd bout what you call me and others have too,you are safe!,im a big girl unlike you!
fact 8.your just upset we didnt include the walking dead clan,well most of them were from syrtis in old days and wouldnt have joined anyway.
fact 9.and you say your 19,well little boy when you have turned into a man,come talk to me because until then i have no time to baby sit youngsters!
fact 10.i just love how certain sections of alsius hated us all going on strike,i mean its a free game we are not made to play.maybe they hated that so many felt the same way as we did.
fact 11.im lead to believe 1/3 of syrtis is really from another realm if what is posted here can be believed.therefor same applies to alsius i guess,law of averages thing you understand.is that why you ex pack of bastids aka walking dead are so upset now?
lmfao baby!
71175
02-10-2012, 06:45 AM
for one dont call me sweetheart,to me you are scum,secondly are you retarded,dude just because you were excluded from taking part,due to your total worthlessness,dosnt mean it didnt achieve anything.
read the stats for last 2 days and tell us that dosnt speak volumes.
fact 1.no person was made to join,no clan member or realm member,each worthy person was asked to join,and a few were missed due to time zones.in your case,we chose not include you as you really suck.
fact 2.if you cant work out what the stats meant for the last 2 days,you are either retarded or a multi realmer wanting to protect your rp farms.
fact 3.this game is for business not fun,fun comes second.
what kind of business would ngd have if alot of alsius left.horus would die fast,and thats the point we tried to make and DID make too.
fact 4.Klutu is a nub and worthy of my ignore bin as he prolly plays in other realms in his absence from alsius.
fact 5.you call me a pedo,ive screen shot that will seek advice.you have no right to slander me in such a way when its untrue.
fact 6.we had these same issues with pack of bastids clan in alsius,they were all syrtis players.not loyal and would swap realms when they needed.
fact 7.im expecting a ban,since i called you names and you will cry to ngd,but since i dont cry to ngd bout what you call me and others have too,you are safe!,im a big girl unlike you!
fact 8.your just upset we didnt include the walking dead clan,well most of them were from syrtis in old days and wouldnt have joined anyway.
fact 9.and you say your 19,well little boy when you have turned into a man,come talk to me because until then i have no time to baby sit youngsters!
fact 10.i just love how certain sections of alsius hated us all going on strike,i mean its a free game we are not made to play.maybe they hated that so many felt the same way as we did.
fact 11.im lead to believe 1/3 of syrtis is really from another realm if what is posted here can be believed.therefor same applies to alsius i guess,law of averages thing you understand.is that why you ex pack of bastids aka walking dead are so upset now?
lmfao baby!
LMFAO, remedy was actually right xD
GreenAngel
02-10-2012, 06:49 AM
Klutu,hes in my ignore list,in all probability hes a 40 year old man living with mommy still,i i do not value his opinions what so ever.got to love iggy bins huh :)
Ah you fail Tania you said you ignored him ^^, in my eyes you're nothing more then a Tirsla II, a total moron, letting new recruits walk all the way to Cs for example is just sad ...
mariazna
02-10-2012, 06:59 AM
Hello all Horus players. Many Alsius players are dissapointed by Horus and generally their own realm, and we came out to a desicion. From wednesday 8/2 until friday 10/2 Alsius will be on strike so as to make NGD help Alsius become better realm and generally the whole Horus server. We think that other realms should do the same too. Thank you for your attention.
yes strike i do with u ( geia sou re reble praksikopimatia kai egw mazi sou kalo mou kano apergia den pezo ante mpas kai sosoume thn xwra xaxaxa giwrgaki se pirazo kseris pos se goustaro me xilia filoures sta moutrakia sou )
Kellindil82
02-10-2012, 07:02 AM
Only me think it's so funny when a nolifer talk about nolifers? :D :D
Anyaway ty tania to come here and prove remedy's right with your behavior!
Ulti you are right, since this is my 4th year i already know syrtis will be in the same situation at summer, that is our weakest time period, i realy hope we won't strike!
yeah-baby
02-10-2012, 07:22 AM
ahh i think she meant in game not in forums
Kellindil82
02-10-2012, 07:33 AM
ahh i think she meant in game not in forums
I mean when someone get a game so serious like she does, is a nolifer. Anyone who thinks this is something real has some mind problems. For example i don't really care if pigs took our gems every morning because this is a GAME! Go pigs!
This whole situation reminds me when you beat a child in a game then the child says "I won't play with you anymore!", then you have to let the child win some and then the child is happy!:D
Realy we should treat goats like children?
philip111
02-10-2012, 07:34 AM
ok, soo.. alsius is getting boring for me. getting bored of being farmed and getting invaded every day and barely having any alsius allies to have a fun battle. so for me, im joining this strike.
no idea how ngd can fix realm in balance, and i doubt this strike will do anything. but for now im ganna spend my time on another game until something happens to make the game a little better for alsius.
Kartor.
Dude Tirsla was better. At least less harmless - only talked and stuff. Are you sure Tirsla was not Tania? :D
It is sad to see so so much intrigues and stuff. Guys you really need to do something to streghten the atmosphere in there.
Dudes noyone can fix this thing. They can provide maybe more players, but keeping them is hard if not impossible for them. There comes the community part which are you and me and everyone who plays this game.
Last night i saw a few, but fearless goats. They fought with courage and heart. It really was a challenge to stop you. Ulti you are damn of a tank.
Ulti19
02-10-2012, 07:53 AM
ok, soo.. alsius is getting boring for me. getting bored of being farmed and getting invaded every day and barely having any alsius allies to have a fun battle. so for me, im joining this strike.
no idea how ngd can fix realm in balance, and i doubt this strike will do anything. but for now im ganna spend my time on another game until something happens to make the game a little better for alsius.
Kartor.
How dare you join the strike!!!!??? We had awesome fights today! xD
We didn't even lose our gems tonight!!! xD 15 were on!
isgandarli
02-10-2012, 07:58 AM
Last night
I'll slap you if you'll say this again xD
Come and get me! xD
...sooo last night...you got damn of a marks zerg...
VeterKh
02-10-2012, 08:33 AM
Come and get me! xD
...sooo last night...you got damn of a marks zerg...
I caught you last night ^)
Vyrann
02-10-2012, 08:54 AM
How dare you join the strike!!!!??? We had awesome fights today! xD
We didn't even lose our gems tonight!!! xD 15 were on!
Kartor just recently bought skyrim XD
Huntrare
02-10-2012, 10:15 AM
Seems, not all Alsius agree with this strike either :D
Last night we had tons of fun with Alsius, well those who were on!
Atleast for myself I had fun playing against them, They eeven repelled us from aggers! That's the spirit!:D
Also Ulti, you are a great player, you're awesome! I always have fun playing against you winning or loosing idc :D
standistortion
02-10-2012, 10:33 AM
I guess Tania has confirmed most folks supporting this strike where not doing it because of her or TAG. Folks are criticising the strikers for leaving the rest of their realm outnumbered to get farmed, zerged and invaded at will by other realms without seeing the irony that geting farmed, zerged and invaded at will by other realms is the normal situation for alsius. The war in RO works on many levels, in the long term there is a war of attrition, the enemy is ground down until their moral is gone and they have no will to fight. This has happened, Syrtis won the war of attrition, what should have been a fun game became a tiresome uphill struggle.
There is a good side, Alsius has proved they can have a strong impact when they work together and hopefully many Alsians that have become tired of the futile situation and taken a break from RO will be back to fight together and we can get back the moral that was taken from us. Hopefully NGD will fix the damn realm imbalance to.
Hopeakettu
02-10-2012, 10:53 AM
I guess Tania has confirmed most folks supporting this strike where not doing it because of her or TAG. Folks are criticising the strikers for leaving the rest of their realm outnumbered to get farmed, zerged and invaded at will by other realms without seeing the irony that geting farmed, zerged and invaded at will by other realms is the normal situation for alsius. The war in RO works on many levels, in the long term there is a war of attrition, the enemy is ground down until their moral is gone and they have no will to fight. This has happened, Syrtis won the war of attrition, what should have been a fun game became a tiresome uphill struggle.
There is a good side, Alsius has proved they can have a strong impact when they work together and hopefully many Alsians that have become tired of the futile situation and taken a break from RO will be back to fight together and we can get back the moral that was taken from us. Hopefully NGD will fix the damn realm imbalance to.
:thumb: already looking for a battle I could join. :viking: Strike or not, those two days of break worked like a magic (at least for me), so I'm eager to fight again. :horsey:
DkySven
02-10-2012, 12:43 PM
Bah, back in 2007 and 2008, Alsius on Ra was constantly outnumbered and we whined, but we fought back at least. We ended up defeating greens even while they outnumbered us and were mostly made up of archers back when they had the old evasion tree. Trying to find ways to win against uneven odds made us better players and created a realm of close players.
somos pocos? No, somos Alsius!
Alsius used to be the home of the few and the brave and that was what attracted me to the realm, but now people go on strike when things get hard?!
Psynocide
02-10-2012, 12:47 PM
Kartor just recently bought skyrim XD
Striking due to a depressing gameplay experience? Not good enough.
Striking due to having bought Skyrim? A perfectly valid excuse, enjoy yourself.
Frosk
02-10-2012, 03:28 PM
I still wonder what's the point of these threads, where the only thing you achieve is to hate each other more and more.
I'm gonna close this, like it or not.
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