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Frosk
02-28-2012, 05:48 PM
Hi everyone!

I'm writing these lines to announce that, in Amun, magnanites are tradeable again.

The idea of this is to actually perform as much testing as we can to confirm that everything's working fine when it comes to Magna Commerce.

What we'll be trying to do, and everyone's invited to come and try, is basically "break" the commerce system with the magnas, which may of course implicate reproducing the infamous "magna-duping".

Please, feel free to try as many times as you wish, and of course, to write any advances, doubts or reports in this same thread.

Don't be afraid to be "banned" or something, since by testing you won't be ruining gameplay. In fact, you will be helping us to actually achieve a more perfect Commerce system regarding these minerals.

We have 2 weeks to test, and if no bug or error is encountered, I'll proceed to close this thread and consider that the best result has been achieved.

So, without further ado... see you in Amun! :)

It's clear that any post that's non-related, that does not give any useful info, that's provocative or that tries to derail this thread will be eliminated. Repeating any of this mentioned behaviors may lead to a temporal or permanent ban.

Best Regards!

time-to-die
02-28-2012, 06:25 PM
I think the most peopel doesnt know how to do this. Neither me

PT_DaAr_PT
02-28-2012, 06:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TMqbw.png

You should have made this the contest from last week. Ximerin price worth paying.


EDIT: Nothing to do with magnanite items but once you reach the item limit(Not the weight limit) you can no longer obtain/trade new items, they simply won't appear in your inventory and never will. So for example, if you buy a premium item you will lose Ximerin and not receive the item, even after relogging.

EDIT2: I spent some time on Amun and on my first try I found a visual bug to dupe rocks!
http://i.imgur.com/K7Odq.png

http://i.imgur.com/vp0ch.png

Feel free to figure out how and see if you can actually make it real.

DINAMIK
02-28-2012, 07:29 PM
as far I Know, the lastest magnanite bug, was considered also as a visual bug. After reloging, you obtained the proper quantity.

am I wrong?

isgandarli
02-28-2012, 07:30 PM
am I wrong?

Yes :)

10 chars

DINAMIK
02-28-2012, 07:33 PM
Yes :)

10 chars

what's the difference? cannot they be usable?

S_N_I_P_E_R
02-28-2012, 07:39 PM
Can we please get the info on how the old dupe bug was done so that the people that didn't know before could test this, otherwise you will not have high numbers needed for proper results.

Frosk
02-28-2012, 07:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TMqbw.png

You should have made this the contest from last week. Ximerin price worth paying.


EDIT: Nothing to do with magnanite items but once you reach the item limit(Not the weight limit) you can no longer obtain/trade new items, they simply won't appear in your inventory and never will. So for example, if you buy a premium item you will lose Ximerin and not receive the item, even after relogging.

EDIT2: I spent some time on Amun and on my first try I found a visual bug to dupe rocks!
http://i.imgur.com/K7Odq.png

http://i.imgur.com/vp0ch.png

Feel free to figure out how and see if you can actually make it real.

This is interesting, would you please provide me a step-by-step on how to reproduce this?

If you feel like you don't want to share this info with the rest of the community, you can always send me a pm.

Regards! And thanks :)

PT_DaAr_PT
02-28-2012, 08:32 PM
I'm fine with it, it's for the good of the Regnums.

This bug can be reproduced with any kind of stackable item. Here's a step-by-step example:

1. Stash a stack of items. Not all of them, keep at least 1 on your inventory. In my example, I will be storing 170 rocks from 177. I will have 7 in my inventory left.
http://i.imgur.com/oF8z9.png

2. Place the stashed stack in the Retrieve box. Should look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/Gy9oy.png

3. Switch to the Store box and store, for example, 1 rock from your inventory.
http://i.imgur.com/gn44Y.png

The stash will show you the correct number of the stack of items you have stashed. That's what you want to see.
http://i.imgur.com/Osg1E.png

4. Switch to the Retrieve box and you will notice that the 170 items you had placed are still there. Feel free to place the stashed stack in the retrieve box now.
http://i.imgur.com/64AZ3.png

The result:
http://i.imgur.com/eWkmA.png

5. Proceed to go back to step 3 and repeat the process until you go out of rocks.


That's it, basically. If you press the Retrieve button the window closes and the number of items in the stash will remain correct. It's just a visual bug.
http://i.imgur.com/pg9Gy.png

71175
02-28-2012, 08:42 PM
I'm fine with it, it's for the good of the Regnums.

This bug can be reproduced with any kind of stackable item. Here's a step-by-step example:

1. Stash a stack of items. Not all of them, keep at least 1 on your inventory. In my example, I will be storing 170 rocks from 177. I will have 7 in my inventory left.
http://i.imgur.com/oF8z9.png

2. Place the stashed stack in the Retrieve box. Should look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/Gy9oy.png

3. Switch to the Store box and store, for example, 1 rock from your inventory.
http://i.imgur.com/gn44Y.png

The stash will show you the correct number of the stack of items you have stashed. That's what you want to see.
http://i.imgur.com/Osg1E.png

4. Switch to the Retrieve box and you will notice that the 170 items you had placed are still there. Feel free to place the stashed stack in the retrieve box now.
http://i.imgur.com/64AZ3.png

The result:
http://i.imgur.com/eWkmA.png

5. Proceed to go back to step 3 and repeat the process until you go out of rocks.


That's it, basically. If you press the Retrieve button the window closes and the number of items in the stash will remain correct. It's just a visual bug.
http://i.imgur.com/pg9Gy.png

This bug is on live server too.

Phlue4
02-28-2012, 09:01 PM
I overheard that magnanites can be duplicated by the cheat engine, but it is only a visual "bug", too.
(It is about changing some adresses)

ps.
Magnanites trade will be reactivated?
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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pps.
I am glad to know that you cannot even edit your x and z coordinates anymore in order to get through the realm walls. :)

Kyrottimus
02-28-2012, 09:40 PM
I tried to help in Amun but I was told not to worry about it. It appears the situation is under control

La situación está bajo control :bounce:

PT_DaAr_PT
02-29-2012, 01:46 AM
EDIT5: I will stop editing and once I come up with a more conclusive result, I will talk about it.

EDIT6: I'd like to report Assassin Prince (Ra) for deliberately interrupting tests and wasting my time at Samal market. He keeps killing the only merchant near CS and me too until I decided to strike back and kick his, unfortunately he always comes back... I kept complaining on global chat but that didn't seem to stop him either, not even the fact I'm a female character. :<
http://i.imgur.com/h0hGR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iENQ4.png
Video: http://youtu.be/WCgZziyq9_M

Yes, I mad.

GreenAngel
02-29-2012, 07:02 AM
Why not go to the merchant of one of your main cities instead? Or do you need something particular at that merchant?

71175
02-29-2012, 09:02 AM
Why not go to the merchant of one of your main cities instead? Or do you need something particular at that merchant?

main city? what one? altaruk :P?

Eliar
02-29-2012, 09:13 AM
main city? what one? altaruk :P?

meleketi
10 chars

71175
02-29-2012, 10:53 AM
So (Slightly translated :P)
Tutorial for duplicating magnanites using stash bug:
Frosk. Encontré el bug de las magnas. Estube como 2 horas probando, pero en fin, lo logré. Acá te dejo los pasos:

1. Move all ur magnas to stash.

Imágen (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396337_183926205051443_100003021940069_297719_1914 586624_n.jpg)

2. Move any other item. Instead of number to transfer enter LETTER.

Imágen (http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/421704_183926228384774_100003021940069_297720_2120 485721_n.jpg)
Imágen (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396553_183926255051438_100003021940069_297721_2330 06191_n.jpg)

3. Click Save.

Imágen (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426341_183926278384769_100003021940069_297722_5319 14963_n.jpg)

4. Reopen stash.

Imágen (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416967_183926328384764_100003021940069_297724_2081 142699_n.jpg)

5. Move duped mags from stash to inventory.

Imágen (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422753_183926348384762_100003021940069_297725_1549 148548_n.jpg)

6. Now place/remove single item from inventory and it will add up to ur mags :D.

Imágen (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419776_183926375051426_100003021940069_297726_4437 14900_n.jpg)
Imágen (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417631_183926398384757_100003021940069_297727_1612 606872_n.jpg)
Imágen (http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424827_183926421718088_100003021940069_297728_3011 79836_n.jpg)
Imágen (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416830_183926451718085_100003021940069_297729_1660 306311_n.jpg)

7. PROFIT

Frosk. Espero que esto sea de Ayuda.

Saludos! :)

PT_DaAr_PT
02-29-2012, 12:00 PM
Why not go to the merchant of one of your main cities instead? Or do you need something particular at that merchant?

I could, though it's more convenient in the war zone because I can always find someone to help me, rarely do you find people responding to help calls in chat, not even I do. Besides, his actions are still unjustifiable, he did it intentionally to piss me off and waste my time. And he succeed.

"its warzone hurrr i kill wutever i want" mentality does not apply on Amun, you're in a freaking test server.

So (Slightly translated :P)
Tutorial for duplicating magnanites using stash bug:

Keep testing, there are alternative ways.

71175
02-29-2012, 12:12 PM
I could, though it's more convenient in the war zone because I can always find someone to help me, rarely do you find people responding to help calls in chat, not even I do. Besides, his actions are still unjustifiable, he did it intentionally to piss me off and waste my time. And he succeed.

"its warzone hurrr i kill wutever i want" mentality does not apply on Amun, you're in a freaking test server.



Keep testing, there are alternative ways.

I am out of gold after getting 2 magna weps :P

Phlue4
02-29-2012, 12:44 PM
1. Move all ur magnas to stash.

Imágen

2. Move any other item. Instead of number to transfer enter LETTER.

Imágen
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3. Click Save.

Imágen

4. Reopen stash.

Imágen

5. Move duped mags from stash to inventory.

Imágen

6. Now place/remove single item from inventory and it will add up to ur mags .

Imágen
Imágen
Imágen
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7. PROFIT

Frosk. Espero que esto sea de Ayuda.

Saludos!

Another bug:

Once you put these duped mags in your account stash, the all disappear and are gone. >.<

I don't know wheater it is the same with usual magnanites, I will try out now.

edit: no it is not.

Shwish
02-29-2012, 02:42 PM
I overheard that magnanites can be duplicated by the cheat engine, but it is only a visual "bug", too.
(It is about changing some adresses)


Cheat Engine can only edit values that are on the client side meaning that any change made using that program wouldn't register on the server itself. While it visually changes on your screen it wouldn't on the server or for anyone else. As soon change the value via picking up another magnanite or logging off it will bounce back to its original value. I suspect a packet editor such as WinSock would be a better choice but then again I've never attempted to use it on this game.

GreenAngel
02-29-2012, 05:04 PM
Another bug on Amun now: Saying stash is disabled, but when you put something it and press Ok you loose your item...

GreenAngel
02-29-2012, 05:06 PM
srry never mind you get the original amount of Mags back then!

Phlue4
03-02-2012, 09:15 PM
has this
Frosk. Encontré el bug de las magnas. Estube como 2 horas probando, pero en fin, lo logré. Acá te dejo los pasos:

1. Poner todas las magnas en el Baul de cuenta.

Imágen

2. Poner un item cualquiera. Y en cantidad poner Una Letra.

Imágen
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3. Clickear Guardar.

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4. Revisar el Baúl.

Imágen

5. Retirar las Magnas. Vease que las tengo en el inventario.

Imágen

6. Como vieron, no queda ninguna magna en el baúl. Pero magicamente agregando un item cualquiera y luego retirandolo, las magnas aumentan en mi inventario.

Imágen
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7. Repetir el proceso hasta obtener las cantidad de magnas deseadas (?

Frosk. Espero que esto sea de Ayuda.

Saludos!

been fixed on the Live Servers already?