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VeterKh
03-21-2012, 08:35 AM
Raven Forum make a pol: Who plays from America and who is not. I do not know why. I can only guess.
I'm interesting what players think : do we want that Horus was only one international server and will grow after this Horus?

Eyfura
03-21-2012, 09:37 AM
In my opinion everyone who can speak english should be able to play on horus. NGD has blocked some countries because they have server(s) for their own language. I would allow access to everyone but I dunno about their plans and deals :P

ieti
03-21-2012, 09:43 AM
Agree with Eufy. We have players who speak many different languages, but when it comes to war everyone can communicate in English.

I see nothing wrong to learn some words in other languages too. We already have alot words from old RA players, from Tyr players too(ru**ers :D).

If Horus is open for everyone to choose to play there we will be more than happy and will welcome any new player. We do not bite. :thumb:

VeterKh
03-21-2012, 10:35 AM
i love Horus... we need to do something... damn

Quincebo
03-21-2012, 10:54 AM
i already disliked raven at the start, since horus never had too many people.
Maybe also the german/french server is an idea

PT_DaAr_PT
03-21-2012, 11:35 AM
In my opinion everyone who can speak english should be able to play on horus. NGD has blocked some countries because they have server(s) for their own language. I would allow access to everyone but I dunno about their plans and deals :P
They should have done this from the beginning, a server for your own language allows those people in your country who cannot English very well to play the game without language barriers. But there will always be people(like myself) who prefer a more international environment, mainly to improve English skills.

For now there is no way to make Horus fully International due to how their contracts have been made. This is part of the answer I got from a ticket because my account has turned into a NGD-BoaCompra hybrid and I already had made a BoaCompra-only account before the forced change.

Also, because of the block, a huge clusterfuck of Spanish, German and French players has formed, they're dying to switch servers. So if Horus opened to everyone, if not some kind of language filter was added, you could kiss communication in English good bye. It takes only one person to talk in Spanish to get the rest of the gang involved. Let's not even mention the language barriers during war activity because some of them don't understand the concept of "English speaking server". /me looks at Raven.
On the other hand, those kind of players have already infested Raven. Maybe that's part of the big master plan to open Horus internationally without causing too much havoc. :D


I see nothing wrong to learn some words in other languages too. We already have alot words from old RA players, from Tyr players too(ru**ers :D).
aca.... and abbreviations of the bridge's names that most people don't even know what they mean. Oh yes, we can also greet each other with "rucker" just 'coz funny dirty word lol, how can someone not acknowledge that. NGD is not allowing everyone to have access to the best experience of RO lolz.

Rising_Cold
03-21-2012, 12:44 PM
... So if Horus opened to everyone, if not some kind of language filter was added, you could kiss communication in English good bye. It takes only one person to talk in Spanish to get the rest of the gang involved.

True, if someone talks dutch I usually talk dutch back, most of the times assuming
they cant speak english very well. We have those players in clan too, lucky us,
for every player that doesnt speak english well enough, we have a player from
his/her country who does and who is happy enough to talk in a private chat explaining things. :)


... "rucker" just 'coz funny dirty word lol, how can someone not acknowledge that.

that supposed to be a dutch word? coz if it is.. its been 'englished' lol

NGD is not allowing everyone to have access to the best experience of RO lolz.

+1 to that, I have had so much fun learning other words (yay chinese) and teaching a bit of dutch too
its also fun to start talking german with people who also study that. It is a great way to
enhance your language, and not just english, but all of them out there :D
{and its just funny to shout words no1 understands and see others use it too}

SilverHaven
03-21-2012, 12:52 PM
Well .. i play on Horus sometimes, I play on Raven sometimes ... in my opinion, both server are equaly dead. Raven is about 24/7 grinding, not much war, boredom most of the days after getting to 60, ... Horus ... not that about grinding, cause it is way too slow there, little bit more waring than on Raven, but impossible to enjoy for lower levels (~45) because how OP lvl60 armors are against 45ish players and how lvl40 armors are UP agains lvl60ish players. I recently started to play on Ra, but it seems not much activity there in my timezone, at least from the look on the forts, cause i didnt go to WZ there yet.

BTW some complained about US players forced to join Raven - this is NOT true. Yes, they are kinda forced to make GameSamba account, but you can officialy access Horus from that account - it is in the list, right bellow the Raven.

VeterKh
03-21-2012, 01:14 PM
Well .. i play on Horus sometimes, I play on Raven sometimes ... in my opinion, but both server are equaly dead. Raven is about 24/7 grinding, not much war, boredom most of the days after getting to 60, ... Horus ... not that about grinding, cause it is way too slow there, little bit more waring than on Raven, but impossible to enjoy for lower levels (~45) because how OP lvl60 armors are against 45ish players and how lvl40 armors are UP agains lvl60ish players. I recently started to play on Ra, but it seems not much activity there in my timezone, at least from the look on the forts, cause i didnt go to WZ there yet.


because both the international server. one ass to sit on two chairs are not comfortable.


BTW some complained about US players forced to join Raven - this is NOT true. Yes, they are kinda forced to make GameSamba account, but you can officialy access Horus from that account - it is in the list, right bellow the Raven.

they still playing at Horus... night crew

blood-raven
03-21-2012, 04:05 PM
"rucker"

It's ruKker, ya noob xD

http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/e/e3/SpellingNaziBolts.jpg

Eliar
03-21-2012, 04:24 PM
why there is no answer "I left to Ra 4ever"? :lighten:

kmdk
03-21-2012, 04:54 PM
In my opinion everyone who can speak english should be able to play on horus.

Agree and not agree...
Why english shall be the barrier to play a game ?
I disagree at this point.

It is a dificult choise for NGD too.
A private company has more power to promote in big country as europeans or usa.
GameSamba and others have tradition in online gaming,basic they have allrady they own customers.
It is like a chinese product that try to enter on market,if you say Nike..more people will know about and will buy,but if you say Hong Kong Shoes,people will not like too much.But if that Hong Kong Shoes buy a license to sell they products with name Nike,then more people will buy.

For the moment Horus is ok more or less.

There are popular servers for more countrys,and Horus is just the choise for people that have not in they region they own server.

And i bet NGD ,can't make something in this case because of contractual clauses.And this normal.

This mania about Horus it is just overated.
If you ask me,for a normal player that play 2-4 hours /day there is a lots of action and is right in time.
For game maniacs ,or players that play others time/zone looks bad.

71175
03-21-2012, 05:04 PM
Wait, wait, since when Raven is International? The only problem with this is that it is English-speaking, and it's not a great deal to make an %language_name%-speaking clan there, since basics of English and any other language can be learned during playing. ( Well, not sure about Chinese and such :D).

SilverHaven
03-21-2012, 05:31 PM
Wait, wait, since when Raven is International?
Since long time ago (http://realmsonline.gamesamba.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24&Itemid=24&aid=19)

71175
03-21-2012, 05:40 PM
Since long time ago (http://realmsonline.gamesamba.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24&Itemid=24&aid=19)

Ah, they shoulda replace the location in launcher on International then xD

Torcida
03-21-2012, 07:10 PM
Horus still can be rescued thats for sure just make the server AVAILABLE for friggin everybody NGD!

If the server shows some kind of recovery maybe even I one day will come back to RO..

VeterKh
03-21-2012, 09:08 PM
why there is no answer "I left to Ra 4ever"? :lighten:

does Ra have problem with population??? Ra don't make problem for Horus

VeterKh
03-21-2012, 09:27 PM
And i bet NGD ,can't make something in this case because of contractual clauses.And this normal.


this is normal only for you! not for Horus i think.
ok ok... why GameSamba interested about who plays on Horus from NA?? I think they want to block NA ip of the access to Horus. If i was GS - I'd go that way, Contract. Money

kmdk
03-22-2012, 04:32 PM
this is normal only for you! not for Horus i think.
ok ok... why GameSamba interested about who plays on Horus from NA?? I think they want to block NA ip of the access to Horus. If i was GS - I'd go that way, Contract. Money

Don't flame and try to think as a publisher.
And Horus is ok at it is.People just overrate this subject.
And yes it is about money.If there are no money...results are sample....no more Regnum at all,Horus will complete disapear and Ra ...and other servers.Will you be happy then?
Are you able to pay programers without money?
Are you able to host a server without money?

bois
03-22-2012, 05:06 PM
Two questions the community should ask itself.

1; Does NGD consider there is a population problem? If the answer is no then the thread is invalid (at least to NGD).

2; If NGD considers there is a problem, do they consider it important enough to divert resources towards resolving it? If the answer is no well you can see the trend.

Horus has always had population problems. Right now population fluctuation is the biggest problem. Besides, the life span of each update will continue to get shorter and shorter as the most recent ones are fairly shortsighted. As such NGD will have revenue spikes and lulls and population fluctuations that match that trend.

The question is : Does Horus have revenue problems? Low population should suggest that it would. But, depending on purchasing patterns of its users it may surprise. If the issues don't touch the bottom line harshly, expect no revisions.

VeterKh
03-23-2012, 07:41 AM
Don't flame and try to think as a publisher.
tell me why i can't ? :crying1:

And Horus is ok at it is.People just overrate this subject. did you really playing on Horus?


And yes it is about money.If there are no money...results are sample....no more Regnum at all,Horus will complete disapear and Ra ...and other servers.Will you be happy then?
Are you able to pay programers without money?
Are you able to host a server without money?

you originally agreed with me that all for the sake of money, and then you start asking me stupid questions ... where is the logic?

VeterKh
03-23-2012, 08:01 AM
Two questions the community should ask itself.

1; Does NGD consider there is a population problem? If the answer is no then the thread is invalid (at least to NGD).

I think they did not confirm this fact, even if it takes place.

2; If NGD considers there is a problem, do they consider it important enough to divert resources towards resolving it? If the answer is no well you can see the trend.

Here, I think the problem is not the answer YES or NO.
you love the Horus as well as how I am. Maybe more because you play more often. We all want to do something useful ... is not it?
it turns out that we draw a cat by the tail


Horus has always had population problems. Right now population fluctuation is the biggest problem. Besides, the life span of each update will continue to get shorter and shorter as the most recent ones are fairly shortsighted. As such NGD will have revenue spikes and lulls and population fluctuations that match that trend.

Of course, I'm not playing so long as you ... but ... for the time that I play such problems like now did not exist in past.

The question is : Does Horus have revenue problems? Low population should suggest that it would. But, depending on purchasing patterns of its users it may surprise. If the issues don't touch the bottom line harshly, expect no revisions.

did you think Horus dont have revenue problem? did you see alot of new players? I'm from the perspective of the business know that the main income comes from new customers (players). The audience should be expanded. The client (players) base should grow.

Tania_The_Witch
03-23-2012, 10:43 AM
go to school and learn english DaaR..poorest excuse for playing an international server iver ever heard lolz.

money makes the world go round.we are stuck with the deal NGD made with game samba....period!

bois
03-23-2012, 12:59 PM
go to school and learn english DaaR..

Unfortunate and uninformed comment there. Learning languages operate on 2 levels. Learning the foundations and secondly, operating in an environment where you learn the nuances ,structure and inflections of said language. Increasing your vocabulary count and learning regional slang is an added bonus.

This environment can be anything from visiting the country, online chat or even watching foreign language movies.

The Game Samba thing was a risk. But, I think it was a risk worth exploring.

Inkster
03-23-2012, 01:41 PM
I voted i dont care, as i went to Horus once, got slammed, went back to Ra.

thanks to the not so welcoming hello i got, i really have no interest in the server, and that is 100% down to the players!

Edit:


go to school and learn english DaaR..poorest excuse for playing an international server iver ever heard lolz.

money makes the world go round.we are stuck with the deal NGD made with game samba....period!


Rather Ironic comment, coming from someone who is not from England, but also uses a word spelt lolz (is lolz an Arabic, Ancient tongue, alien word? Someone please tell me), without the ability to use correct punctuation, and finally from someone who herself got banned from this very for been a Troll

Psynocide
03-23-2012, 02:22 PM
go to school and learn english DaaR..poorest excuse for playing an international server iver ever heard lolz.


Your hypocrite is showing.

OT: I don't see the question here, the poll is very vague.
Horus is Horus; it changes from time to time but we're never fully satisfied with it and most likely never will be.

kmdk
03-23-2012, 04:48 PM
tell me why i can't ? :crying1:

How you can complaint about something that you have allrady ?


did you really playing on Horus?


Yes and i have lots of action.You complaint about nothing or about something that is only on your mind.


you originally agreed with me that all for the sake of money, and then you start asking me stupid questions ... where is the logic?



Logic is sample: "No money ,No Regnum,No Horus"....
Read again that i wrote.

VeterKh
03-23-2012, 05:10 PM
How you can complaint about something that you have allrady ?

Yes and i have lots of action.You complaint about nothing or about something that is only on your mind.

Logic is sample: "No money ,No Regnum,No Horus"....
Read again that i wrote.

did not see the point in further discussion with you in connection with the lack of understanding. You should learn to express your thoughts from bois

VeterKh
03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
@bois, inkster, psynocide:

I thought the best troll - Actor, but I was wrong ... she can crap any topic. I specifically did not respond to her post. Have patience please.

bois
03-23-2012, 05:59 PM
I looked at this thread about 5 times with the intent to vote but I am still having difficulty doing so.

Here is why. I just can't shake the feeling that NGD hedged its bets on this. If for some reason Raven deal collapses, NGD will seek to get the Raven player base moved to Horus.
If Horus were for some unforeseen reason to collapse, NGD could spin the server off to Gamesamba and go almost fabless while maintaining their original base of RA only.
In either case it could end in one International server which is English based. (RA as far as I know is also international.)But, would it make a difference if they ended up merging ? Would it fix the polarity or would we still have to get countermeasures that allow the server to scale no matter what the population spread is?

I am thinking the latter needs consideration no matter what happens.

Ashnurazg
03-25-2012, 01:01 AM
I don't play on Horus and I'm not from America; but I think Horus should be the only international server, too.

I know many German speaking users from Muspell and Niflheim which play now on Raven (with a new GamesSamba account).

VeterKh
03-26-2012, 06:33 AM
I don't play on Horus and I'm not from America; but I think Horus should be the only international server, too.

I know many German speaking users from Muspell and Niflheim which play now on Raven (with a new GamesSamba account).

of course!!!! Why should Horus lose his potential players. And not ONLY Horus. I meen Muspell and Niflheim lose players too.
But over the weekend and watched some old players at Horus Ignis who went to Raven, and they are have pretty bad comments about Raven.