XP boosts in horus

[kakamank100]

Hey, when we get next XP boost in horus? :wink:

[VeterKh]

Frosk never said this 'when'.

[_Kharbon_]

On Horus there weren't any boost for several weeks now (correct me if I'm wrong). I think it has something to do with players demanding such bonuses more often and others hating the bonus because it ruined war.

The thing is, it really does help low lvl's to level fast. Horus does need more new players!

Also, on RA they still do get bonus days, last one was this week sometime, I think.

[Freeverse]

On Horus there weren't any boost for several weeks now (correct me if I'm wrong).

Months.
If i remember well, the last xp boost was in january.

[Rising_Cold]

Months.
If i remember well, the last xp boost was in january.

Yes it was the last week of january, the newest players dont even know what a boost is.. heck they dont even know frosk xD

[time-to-die]

dont cry about this boost... if you want 1 then buy it.

[VeterKh]

dont cry about this boost... if you want 1 then buy it.

+1
10 chars

[EMIN]

frosk forgot that xD

[Tenel_Ka]

It's only fair that Horus gets XP bonuses when Ra does and vice versa. I wouldn't expect anyone from NGD to understand this concept of fairness though.

dont cry about this boost... if you want 1 then buy it.

Because, obviously, everyone who chooses to play a free MMO has pockets full of cash, just waiting to be spent on an online game.

[Psynocide]

They're a treat.
You don't ask for boosts, you just receive them.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

It's only fair that Horus gets XP bonuses when Ra does and vice versa. I wouldn't expect anyone from NGD to understand this concept of fairness though.



Because, obviously, everyone who chooses to play a free MMO has pockets full of cash, just waiting to be spent on an online game.

Your post really rustles my jimmies.

I'm not from NGD, yet I don't understand your logic. Because Ra gets a bonus, Horus is entitled to one too? Why? They are two different servers, they can both be treated differently(And should), NGD owns them and they can decide to do whatever they want to screw them up. Just because one server population feels jealous towards the other, doesn't make it unfair.

Any kind of bonus is a privilege to have, not a right. Labeling Regnum as Free MMO is wrong, it's Free-2-Play, meaning you can play for free at the expense of others. If somebody decides not to spend any cash on a game that is being offered to them to play for free, then it's their decision, yet there are some people with the nerves to complain.

Please enlighten me up because I do not understand your way of thinking.

[bois]

I managed to drop 2 XP booster scrolls (50%) from large eggs. Does that count ? :rolleyes:

[VeterKh]

I managed to drop 2 XP booster scrolls (50%) from large eggs. Does that count ? :rolleyes:

you lucky :))) around 500 eggs and tone of choco and no one xp boost scroll :)

[Indoril]

I'm not from NGD, yet I don't understand your logic. Because Ra gets a bonus, Horus is entitled to one too? Why?
Because that would be equal treatment, i.e. part of the meaning of the word 'fair'. What logic reason would there be to not treat the servers equally (in regard to boosts that is)?



They are two different servers, they can both be treated differently(And should), NGD owns them and they can decide to do whatever they want to screw them up.
I am sure no one was aware of any of this before. Also thank you for explaining in detail why exactly you think the servers should be treated differently, instead of just posting your opinion without the reasoning behind it.



Any kind of bonus is a privilege to have, not a right.
Completely beside the point. The boosts drew players to Horus, many left after they stopped, especially in Alsius, adding further to realm imbalance. Who in their right mind would see this as a desirable situation?



Labeling Regnum as Free MMO is wrong, it's Free-2-Play, meaning you can play for free at the expense of others.
Again, this sentence doesn't contain meaningful information. Regnum is free to play, pay to win, or at least to enjoy..
Often (though not always), instead of offering new premium content worth purchasing, artificial shitty situations (grinding to 60 without scrolls, taking away horses purchasable by gold, increasing repair cost for highlvl gear and making an integral part of war (fort upgrades) dependent on gold so players - especially melee chars - would run out of it and be forced to either buy rep hammers or grind again) were created and major promises ('premium content will never give an advantage in war') were shamelessly broken (lucky boxes, surprise gems, armor enhancements) and as of late, even events were created which completely shut out non-premium users.
All those things suck and give damn well solid reasons to complain. Stop being such a fanboy.

[Psynocide]

What logic reason would there be to not treat the servers equally (in regard to boosts that is)?


Population differences? Motivational differences?


Completely beside the point.


Completely integral.
Is a bonus still a bonus if it is routine? Mull it over.


Again, this sentence doesn't contain meaningful information. Regnum is free to play, pay to win, or at least enjoy..

Stopped reading there.

[Tenel_Ka]

Your post really rustles my jimmies.

I'm not from NGD, yet I don't understand your logic. Because Ra gets a bonus, Horus is entitled to one too? Why? They are two different servers, they can both be treated differently(And should), NGD owns them and they can decide to do whatever they want to screw them up. Just because one server population feels jealous towards the other, doesn't make it unfair.

Any kind of bonus is a privilege to have, not a right. Labeling Regnum as Free MMO is wrong, it's Free-2-Play, meaning you can play for free at the expense of others. If somebody decides not to spend any cash on a game that is being offered to them to play for free, then it's their decision, yet there are some people with the nerves to complain.

Please enlighten me up because I do not understand your way of thinking.

I think the two realms should receive equal treatment when it comes to XP bonuses because its fair, and it's a simple way for NGD to keep the Horus community happy and prevent threads like these. I don't understand your logic. Could you explain to me why Ra is currently entitled to receiving XP bonuses but Horus isn't?

Don't take my sarcastic response to time-to-die so seriously. His comment "just buy a boost" bothered me, as it isn't that easy for some players. Some players have financial problems, and then there are players who have the money and want to buy xim, but can't due to their location or other factors.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

Because that would be equal treatment, i.e. part of the meaning of the word 'fair'. What logic reason would there be to not treat the servers equally (in regard to boosts that is)?
Why the hell not? They choose to give bonuses how they want, there's not much to argue against that. Ra gets a bonus, Horus doesn't. Who cares? Why is nobody complaining about Muspell, Niflheim, Nemon and Piranha not getting the same bonus from NGD? They're Regnum Online servers after all.

I am sure no one was aware of any of this before. Also thank you for explaining in detail why exactly you think the servers should be treated differently, instead of just posting your opinion without the reasoning behind it.
Details? What more do you want me to say? NGD does whatever they want with their servers, Ra and Horus are not equal. Last time I checked, when Horus was getting bonuses, Ra was getting none and the same complaints about equality were being made too. None of you cared, but now it's a big fuss because you're the ones not getting it.

Completely beside the point. The boosts drew players to Horus, many left after they stopped, especially in Alsius, adding further to realm imbalance. Who in their right mind would see this as a desirable situation?
A boost doesn't draw new players to a server, it keeps the ones who already play interested. If, like you said, players left the server because of no bonus, then they were not worth to keep anyway. Those kind of unloyal players are not needed in war, and if we'd assume that Alsius does have population problems, then it could be because they seem to have a lot of those kind.


Again, this sentence doesn't contain meaningful information. Regnum is free to play, pay to win, or at least to enjoy..
What is meaningful information to you? It could be because you don't seem to read everything and I feel like I'm repeating myself all over again. There isn't much to say about why you should not take bonuses for granted.

Often (though not always), instead of offering new premium content worth purchasing, artificial shitty situations (grinding to 60 without scrolls, taking away horses purchasable by gold, increasing repair cost for highlvl gear and making an integral part of war (fort upgrades) dependent on gold so players - especially melee chars - would run out of it and be forced to either buy rep hammers or grind again) were created and major promises ('premium content will never give an advantage in war') were shamelessly broken (lucky boxes, surprise gems, armor enhancements) and as of late, even events were created which completely shut out non-premium users.

It's a person's decision to buy or not what NGD offers, for some reason some people seem to feel forced to buy all their crap. Funny, lucky boxes are considered a scam by many for receiving crap items most of the time, so if you do get nice gear then you must have invested a lot on it. Not to mention those same items can be traded with anyone, thus allowing non-premium players to have access to those lucky charms.
Anyway, it's totally up to NGD if they want to keep working for free just for you!

All those things suck and give damn well solid reasons to complain. Stop being such a fanboy.
Complain about what? "NGD I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GIVE GOODIES TO THE PEOPLE THAT PAY YOUR BILLS"?
Nobody forces you to. It's completely you deciding to waste your money.
Just accept the fact that premium users will always have benefits that you won't have as a bandwidth slug.

[Archonaut]

Hey, when we get next XP boost in horus? :wink:



dont cry about this boost... if you want 1 then buy it.

Am I missing something here? Did he post something in secret that I could not see? He's just nicely asking when we would get(if we actually ever get some) next XP boosts..

[Kellindil82]

If you all forgot i'll tell you why we don't get xp bonus. It's because some fool whiner attacked Frosk some months ago, when he gave bonuses every week, then 1 week he didn't... I totally can understand him i won't tell why couse many did already just you can't understand the meaning of bonus. But the point is if you don't want xp bonus again for some months just continue this thread and whining and i'm pretty sure Frosk won't give us and i agree.

[Firellord]

First ppl whine about the fact boosts destroy war and now you just want them back so the only wz-activity is grinding or ganking? I don't really understand it ;s

Just be happy when there's a bonus active, and otherwise do your own thing...

[bois]

Looking at this thread I just wonder how we all made it to 50 in the old days with its 5 million plus XP points to get. Take in to consideration there were no big XP boosters for sale, no free bonuses and no XP for killing enemies. Not to mention that grinding itself was notoriously harder. Grinding now is a joke compared to when I did it back in the day.

Added to this I am reminded just how far so many players went PAST the level 50 XP points when NGD had the coding error. Some even went past 8-10 million XP and even more under such harsh conditions.

All things considered and the cries and tears of blood for all those lost XP we never owned, many still somehow got to 60 too.

Now I understand the calls for bonuses and such to boost population bla bla. Yes, this is a valid point. However, it must be remembered that the game and Horus somehow survived when we had no such things. And believe when I say that those kind of customers that live on freebies will never be the customers to sustain any business model. They are simply transients that will jump the next best thing that comes along. I hope nobody is offended by this statement for this does not apply to every single free play customer. But, more often than not, it does.

A free bonus is what it is. A favour granted by the developers. It is not an obligation or some right as some seem to think. And while the notion of fairness comes up , you must temper that thought with what is economically fair to NGD. They have to balance these things internally. For those that think this may be fanboyism, its not, its just basic business acumen. NGD is in the business of making a profit after all.
We are in the business of getting as much as we possibly can for offering up as little as possible in return.

[Archonaut]

If you all forgot i'll tell you why we don't get xp bonus. It's because some fool whiner attacked Frosk some months ago, when he gave bonuses every week, then 1 week he didn't... I totally can understand him i won't tell why couse many did already just you can't understand the meaning of bonus. But the point is if you don't want xp bonus again for some months just continue this thread and whining and i'm pretty sure Frosk won't give us and i agree.

This of course is absurd and I understand Frosk's point.. But I can not imagine there is not 1 player in the whole Spanish server that has not done something similar to Frosk. Unless Frosk didn't give a reason for someone to act like this (so just continued giving bonuses every week). As said before, I think this is unfair but that's my opinion.
And as Daar already mentioned it's their server yes, they can do what ever they want with it yes, and we all know that Ra has first priority on NGD's list yes. Nice way of pointing it out on this thread too.
Pretty disappointed in the fact they even get bonuses and we don't. Again, no need to attack me, that's just my opinion.

[time-to-die]

Looking at this thread I just wonder how we all made it to 50 in the old days with its 5 million plus XP points to get. Take in to consideration there were no big XP boosters for sale, no free bonuses and no XP for killing enemies. Not to mention that grinding itself was notoriously harder. Grinding now is a joke compared to when I did it back in the day.

Yap it is a joke. I agree with you

[Freeverse]

I play RO since september/october 2011, so i can’t compare todays situation with the good old days, when lvl cap was 50 and hunters were op.
But i played a few other mmo before, so i can easily agree with everybody, who claims, that grinding isn’t that hard now. Lvl 60 can be reached without any boosters in just a few months. I'm the best example for this fact.

Nevertheless i'm deeply convinced, that lack of xp-bonuses means loss for ngd.

Why? That’s why:
Besides my main hunter i have two other chars, both around 40-42 lvl. Without bonuses i have no motivation to grind them, so i almost don’t play them. The consequence is: I don’t buy items/lucky boxes/esthetics for these chars. Because investing money in a char is sensless below lvl 55. All i need is a mount.

If there were regular bonuses i would have motivation to grind, which means i would reach higher levels faster and spend much more money for xim.
Since january i didn’t buy even one single thing from the item mall for my alts. Just because there are no bonuses.

So if there were bonuses on Horus, ngd would be a little bit more rich now.
Actually much more rich, if there are more people out there who share my opinion.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

I play RO since september/october 2011, so i can’t compare todays situation with the good old days, when lvl cap was 50 and hunters were op.
But i played a few other mmo before, so i can easily agree with everybody, who claims, that grinding isn’t that hard now. Lvl 60 can be reached without any boosters in just a few months. I'm the best example for this fact.

Nevertheless i'm deeply convinced, that lack of xp-bonuses means loss for ngd.

Why? That’s why:
Besides my main hunter i have two other chars, both around 40-42 lvl. Without bonuses i have no motivation to grind them, so i almost don’t play them. The consequence is: I don’t buy items/lucky boxes/esthetics for these chars. Because investing money in a char is sensless below lvl 55. All i need is a mount.

If there were regular bonuses i would have motivation to grind, which means i would reach higher levels faster and spend much more money for xim.
Since january i didn’t buy even one single thing from the item mall for my alts. Just because there are no bonuses.

So if there were bonuses on Horus, ngd would be a little bit more rich now.
Actually much more rich, if there are more people out there who share my opinion.

That's just you and maybe a tiny fraction of Horus. This is a problem that comes with regular bonuses as seen on Raven, once they stop doing them, players no longer feel motivated. It should go back to normal in a few more months without bonuses, if NGD learned anything from this.

[Hopeakettu]

I don't care about xp boosts so much. It's nice when there's one - after all it makes grinding and lvling faster - but it's not sth necessary. It's still possible to grind without it unless you long for getting from lvl 1 to lvl 60 in one day ofc xD

It's true that even a minor bonus (like 50%) can encourage people to buy another one for xim, but that's up to NGD, how they wanna generate income. Maybe they don't want Horus to be crowded with tons of bored WMs. :juggle:

[bois]

Daar is right. At least that is my opinion. Any bonus be it XP or whatever, should at the best of times , be a temporary mechanism.

This temporary mechanism has the sole purpose to provide a limited benefit that shapes populations and other demographics. In other words a short term gimmick.
The issue with these bonuses is that some players got confused and somehow thought that they became a right rather than a favour.

The bonuses could have been handled differently. In other words, instead of the way that they are broadcast now, there could have been a more granular approach to target groups.
So for example:
NGD would deliver (for example) via a weekly quest, a 1 hour 10/25/50/100 % booster to the stash of target player groups. The player decides when to take their quest to gain their booster within that week. They decide when to activate it within the week. The availability of these boosters could be time constrained. ( use within 48 hours or lose, for example )
These target groups could be for example, level capped groupings or realms. In a more divisive way, it could be applied to classes that NGD needs to boost populations.
They could be awarded by the amount of hours (another example) you put in or achievements gained. So you kill X amount of mobs for the award and you get X booster at the end of the week.
Another example could be targeted at specific hours where NGD needs to boost population. You could mix and match any of the above to fine tune your target audience.

A benefit is that you will not impact your non target groups and possibly lose income or impede your server activity by unwanted social engineering .
The above are just random examples I made on the spot and I suggest you not focus on the ideas themselves but the principle behind it.

Some of this stuff could be event driven. Another benefit is that some of this could be automated and delivered via live update when player logs in.

In short, granular , interest group targeted boosts should have been the way to go.

[Freeverse]

. It should go back to normal in a few more months without bonuses, if NGD learned anything from this.

Let me ask this way: what is a xp-bonus?

Is it a feature?
A gift?
A privilege?
No, none of this.

A xp-bonus is simply a tactic. Statistics show, that the sale rate of Item Mall Items increases drastically during xp-boosts and events in so called f2p games.
THAT is the reason, why in almost every f2p players get xp-boosts.
Don't be naive to think, it's an altruistic gift for players. It's pure policy.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

Let me ask this way: what is a xp-bonus?

Is it a feature?
A gift?
A privilege?
No, none of this.

A xp-bonus is simply a tactic. Statistics show, that the sale rate of Item Mall Items increases drastically during xp-boosts and events in so called f2p games.
THAT is the reason, why in almost every f2p players get xp-boosts.
Don't be naive to think, it's an altruistic gift for players. It's pure policy.

I'd like to see those numbers.

If someone has cash to spend they will eventually spend it. Statistics can't explain everything, and should not be heavily focused on. Do you know the link between running a boost and buying a premium item? In Regnum Online's case, with XP bonuses, you'll buy less boosters because of mathematical errors(500% from a scroll + 200% from a server side bonus = 1700%~ boost) and the occurrence of the bonuses themselves(People will only use boosters while an XP boost is running).
Therefore NGD loses more than they win, and if they're aware of this then I don't see any other reason to put an XP bonus except for as a gift or to speed up the leveling process of newly registered players(for example, after an heavy promotion).