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PT_DaAr_PT
04-16-2012, 03:41 PM
Obviously, players are going to want to talk and discuss about this.
For those of you unaware that the news and announcements section is not used on these forums, here's yet another closed sticky post about something that some of you have been requesting for months and some others hoping that this day would have never come: http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=88486
HAVEN: A LOT MORE THAN THE SUM OF HORUS AND RAVEN
Today, we have a big announcement for the players of Regnum/Realms. As part of the next steps in revamping the game, Raven and Horus will join forces, as one new server: Haven.
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Make sure to read the FAQ (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?p=1567801)!
And click here (http://gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4993) if you want to know more about the start of exciting!!! new!!!!! events!!!!!!!!
ONLY ON HAVEN!!
Mattdoesrock
04-16-2012, 03:46 PM
I'm sure us European folk will enjoy having the "fate" of the server decided by people as we sleep. :D
But, indifferent none the less. The only thing I really care about these days are delicious Dwarves. :wub2:
Freeverse
04-16-2012, 03:56 PM
Obviously players are going to want to talk and discuss about this.
I like it, i like it.
On one hand more players, more victims, bigger better hunting experience, on the other hand this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PzZH0CkTU
I'm not sure, what we can expect, but i'm more optimistic than ever.
AariEv
04-16-2012, 03:57 PM
I'm sure players who haven't tried Raven lately (or at all) will transition to this new server believing that everything they read about GameSamba is true. After a week or so, I'd be willing to bet their entire opinion changes.
learntoplay
04-16-2012, 04:02 PM
I look forward to playing against new players, and playing with new players also. See you on Haven guys o/
Lets make last day of Horus most epic ever. Fort, bridges, non stop foghts. Cmon guys!
Angel_de_Combate
04-16-2012, 04:11 PM
Lord that's a surprise! *sarcasm*
Anyways who's going to be managing Haven(original name :p) NGD or Gamesamba?
Angel_de_Combate
04-16-2012, 04:16 PM
Lord that's a surprise! *sarcasm*
Anyways who's going to be managing Haven(original name :p) NGD or Gamesamba?
Nvm Gamesamba, thanks DL :D
pieceofmeat
04-16-2012, 04:19 PM
Lets make last day of Horus most epic ever. Fort, bridges, non stop foghts. Cmon guys!
Epic WM spam, no thanks!
Shwish
04-16-2012, 04:24 PM
I was hoping that it would never come down to a server merge as I was really enjoying myself on raven more than I ever did on horus. But we'll just have to wait and see
_Emin_
04-16-2012, 04:35 PM
Hopefully it wouldn't end like what happened with Tyr + Horus, let's see what this will bring.
Epic WM spam, no thanks!
Who mentioned WM spam dude... :jacky_chun::poster_spam:
Orimae
04-16-2012, 05:00 PM
Lets make last day of Horus most epic ever. Fort, bridges, non stop foghts. Cmon guys!
This i am up for....but meh, not really looking forward to this Raven/Horus merge...
I have always been proud of the Horus name, Haven.....doesnt have the same ring to it, a safe place...meh, it's a war game, a district in someones inner realm should be called Haven... ..its a weak name imo...horus it's a good realm to play, it's busy enough mostly, a lot of players have made a ton of suggestions here there and everywhere on how to boost the population, but again...the bigger picture has been missed.....it's all well and good getting new players to come..it's making them stay that's the hard part.... this could have been fixed a long time ago..but it seems unless the great gods at NGD don't think of an idea, it's not a good one.. :/
My biggest concern is timezones still, this will only boost the night population for the european players, for us, daytime will be pretty much the same....the time alot of us actually play on
Horus .....will be trying to defend the crap out of our gems/gate, or as i like to call it, the nightshift cleanup... xD
Second concern is the GC/Gm's... will we get a ban for saying shit of fuck in general/realm chat? You recently made the game 18+ ....also these words can be found in a dictionary, a book that anyone at any age who can read has access to....as many many players here know...anyone can be prone to the odd rant or outburst because of the lag/noob that killed ya/lack of help from your own realm etc...it's fun to see Surak or Frosk etc on now and again, but Horus, like Ra, can pretty much look after itself, i'm not keen on the thought were gonna have GM's breathing down our necks all the time...making sure we don't say naughty words etc...i'm a bit old to be mothered :P
Also, an issue i have seen on Raven is the sheer amount of boosters these guys at Gamesamba give out... is this now going to be a regular occurrance on our new Haven server? It's war killer....so if thats going to continue...will Gamesamba be giving free stuff to just their registered players or will the old Horus crew get the same? I hope that both server players are treated the same..but if Raven is doing so bad it has to merge..i'm not sure if Gamesamba can afford to give away free stuff to another few hundred players like myself..and on the other hand, will the raven players get mad and leave if their oh so precious boost hours and events are taken from them?
So no, this merge...i see more problems caused than solved, but after all, i am not NGD, it's not my choice..it is my choice to quit the game tho :drums:
Pnarpa
04-16-2012, 05:01 PM
I have an NGD account and a gamesamba account. NGD = syrtis and gamesamba = alsius.
My gamesamba chars aren't lvled beyond 10, I obviously don't want to lose my NGD account. How will this merge affect my chars?
Psynocide
04-16-2012, 05:08 PM
A few things came to my immediate attention and I feel I have to point out:
"Both NGD and GameSamba believe that while Raven and Horus can co-exist peacefully for a long time to come"
Implying that it is indefinite and things may change, which suggests a certain amount of uncertainty amongst NGD/GameSamba over this decision.
"..segmenting the userbase is no longer a smart choice."
When was it ever?
"Whether you're from Horus or Raven, we are pretty sure the increase in online players and warzone activities will make you glad to call Haven your new home."
I'll let you come to your own conclusions over this piece.
..bigger better hunting experience
Who hunts these days? No wmc reward, remember?
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Change is interesting if nothing else.
Oddly enough, I find I don't care a huge amount but my expectations are low.
von1958
04-16-2012, 05:17 PM
This i am up for....but meh, not really looking forward to this Raven/Horus merge...
Second concern is the GC/Gm's... will we get a ban for saying shit of fuck in general/realm chat? You recently made the game 18+ ....also these words can be found in a dictionary, a book that anyone at any age who can read has access to....as many many players here know...anyone can be prone to the odd rant or outburst because of the lag/noob that killed ya/lack of help from your own realm etc...it's fun to see Surak or Frosk etc on now and again, but Horus, like Ra, can pretty much look after itself, i'm not keen on the thought were gonna have GM's breathing down our necks all the time...making sure we don't say naughty words etc...i'm a bit old to be mothered :P
well the cussing rule only applies to realm chat as does the english only rule
Also, an issue i have seen on Raven is the sheer amount of boosters these guys at Gamesamba give out... is this now going to be a regular occurrance on our new Haven server? It's war killer....so if thats going to continue...will Gamesamba be giving free stuff to just their registered players or will the old Horus crew get the same? I hope that both server players are treated the same..but if Raven is doing so bad it has to merge..i'm not sure if Gamesamba can afford to give away free stuff to another few hundred players like myself..and on the other hand, will the raven players get mad and leave if their oh so precious boost hours and events are taken from them?
well the boost is 100% during weekdays and 200% on weekends. now that this runs 24/7 it really does not affect the warzone. whether or not this continues to be the case time will tell the gms pretty much stay innerrealm unless someone reports a hack being done or are stuck in the landscape
So no, this merge...i see more problems caused than solved, but after all, i am not NGD, it's not my choice..it is my choice to quit the game tho :drums:
replys in red
tjanex
04-16-2012, 05:19 PM
I actually hoped to see more then 50% boost lol... Normally they give 100% during the week... :*(. Hoped to spend some boosters to finally make my Hunter to lvl 60 xD
standistortion
04-16-2012, 05:20 PM
Blaa, its in the faq, you get accounts merged into a multirealm account (then you get banned for multirealming? :P ). Would like to know what will happen with the website, forum, support system and looking forward to the population boost and hopefully improved timezone situation.
EDIT: and do we get to keep Frosk?
time-to-die
04-16-2012, 05:25 PM
I actually hoped to see more then 50% boost lol... Normally they give 100% during the week... :*(. Hoped to spend some boosters to finally make my Hunter to lvl 60 xD
So the events are!!
Haven First Week Events Breakdown
Day 1:
Experience Boost 50% (24 hr.)
Generic Key "Unicorn" 7 day rent (24 hr. redeem time - one per user)
Day 2:
Drop Boost 25% (24 hr.)
Warmaster Coins x2 - 50% off (24 hr.)
Day 3:
Gold Boost 50% (24 hr.)
Level 60 Scroll - 50% off (24 hr.)
Day 4:
Experience Boost 25% (24 hr.)
White Unicorn - 75% off (24 hr.)
Day 5:
Gold & Experience Boost 50% (24 hr.)
Lucky Box Platinum - 50% off (24 hr.)
tjanex
04-16-2012, 05:27 PM
Thats not really much compared to what they (Raven) normally give and what they give now lol :D
Wield_II
04-16-2012, 05:31 PM
I dont know why, but I'm not really looking forward to Gamesamba owning my account. :(
I don't want those stupid events, all i want is war.
- Haven better be an international server, because you're only allowed to talk english on Raven.
- My 3 Syrtis characters (Horus) will be merged with my 3 ignis characters (Raven) ?? <----- LAME (Could a dev please answer this question)µ
- I better not lose my username or I will RAGE SOOOO BAD
Wyatt
04-16-2012, 05:49 PM
I dont know why, but I'm not really looking forward to Gamesamba owning my account. :(
GameSamba will not own your account. You will still be a NGD user. The server will be managed by GameSamba though, in conjunction with NGD.
Read the FAQ for more info.
Frosk
04-16-2012, 06:11 PM
Hey everyone, I saw a lot of questions and concerns and I've decided to answer them before there's too many of 'em, so here it goes:
On Timezone:
There shouldn't be any trouble with this.
I hope that, as happens in Ra with south american and european users, the same will go for north americans and europeans.
There will be differences in populations depending on the hour you play, but that's something obvious when we talk about an international server.
On Server administration:
We know that most of you are not used to the way GM's at Raven manage their community.
It's widely known that they tend to set up a lot of bonuses, promote events that are not quite related to the nature of Regnum, and so on.
Anyway, we already spoke and set some terms with their mods, and as a plus, NGD will still supervise their labor in Haven.
This is mainly focused on the fact that we don't want the in-game gm's to interrupt the normal flow of wars and activities in the warzone.
Of course, a couple of days after Haven is set; I'll set a Poll to see if the userbase coming from Horus is happy with the way their new server is being handled.
On Accounts:
There's no need to worry or be scared about the fact that someone from GameSamba will "own" your account.
Those accounts registered at our homepage, will still belong to NGD; and those registered at GameSamba, will still belong to GameSamba.
By the way, keep in mind that insults won't be allowed so freely. I know this may sound a bit... "invasive" to you, but as we ask you guys to not insult too much over a realm chat, we'll ask the mods from GS to not be so sensitive on this matter.
Anyway, I'll be watching this thread, so if more general questions arise, I'll answer progressively.
Regards!
Personally, I will wait. I cannot vote on something simply because I scotch-taped together my ideas of what a merge might mean.
This is a business for profit. With a merge, there has to be some adjustment and allocation of resources and perks . In other words, to make a decent profit for both parties, Haven will not necessarily = Horus+Raven.
Some things will stay, some things will be adjusted and some will go.
As for analysis of Frosk's statement on behalf of the parties, it has to be viewed for what it is. That is, a politically correct, PR statement.
For treading such treacherous PR waters, he did as fine as can be expected.
Simply put: Both servers would merely exist but never grow properly because they cannibalise each other, segmentation was the wrong decision. Both parties overestimated its uptake in the ultra competitive North American market. NGD/Game Samba realises this.
So, collate resources and eliminate 1 server cost, merge resources for marketing/ in game mediation, reduce maintenance for NGD, reduce separate code developments (events etc) and drive this cost savings into a new revenue sharing contract that will be more profitable with a smaller user-base pool.
Those accounts registered at our homepage, will still belong to NGD; and those registered at GameSamba, will still belong to GameSamba.
What if you're on both?
I have an account created on NGD and one on Gamesamba - same username and same pass.
I have characters in Syrtis on Horus and characters in Ignis on Raven.
How will the merge deal with this?
I could really use an answer to this.
Regards,
Kitsuni
04-16-2012, 06:30 PM
I'm already seeing a bit of whining so I want to say something real quick:
What Raven players don't realize is that they've been enjoying themselves at the cost of Horus. Come on, surely you guys realize that 90% of our best players from all realms left to Raven and didn't come back. I mean, Alsius alone lost ALL of PoB... Horus has been in a very sad state ever since, except during peak times...
Just think about all the friends and clanmates that were abandoned that had to rebuild everything from scratch. Find new friends, make new clans...
I'm not trying to pick any fight here, or rub anyone the wrong way, but... it really hasn't been fair to the rest of us and something had to be done about it. That's just how it is. Once that influx of palyers was lost, as well as newer US and Canadian players who would've normally joined Horus but ended up on Raven instead, Horus became nothing but a "peak times only" server, where there is action for about 1/4th of a day and then hardly nothing for the rest except struggling and frustration.
I'm looking forward to the merger with high hopes. It will be nice to spend Ximerin again without it feeling like a complete waste of money.
P.S. Please keep Haven as International. The Restrictions placed on Horus should be BANISHED FOREVER. One server to rule them all!
Frosk
04-16-2012, 06:31 PM
What if you're on both?
I have an account created on NGD and one on Gamesamba - same username and same pass.
I have characters in Syrtis on Horus and characters in Ignis on Raven.
How will the merge deal with this?
I could really use an answer to this.
Regards,
If they have the same username and password, once you log in, you'll see all of the characters in the same character selection screen; no matter if they were originally from Horus or Raven.
Regards!
Hayir
04-16-2012, 06:34 PM
If they have the same username and password, once you log in, you'll see all of the characters in the same character selection screen; no matter if they were originally from Horus or Raven.
Regards!
But he is talking about 2 different realms, it still applies?
Mortified
04-16-2012, 06:35 PM
Game Samba's forum sucks.
That is all. :hat:
standistortion
04-16-2012, 06:37 PM
There is a FAQ page on Realms forum:
http://gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4992
If you have characters from multiple realms, they will be combined into a new multi realm account. While you will be able to retain and play with your characters from different realms, any new characters created will be the realm of the oldest existing character.
Also, will mount names be prefixed too?
Psynocide
04-16-2012, 06:38 PM
Anyway, we already spoke and set some terms with their mods, and as a plus, NGD will still supervise their labor in Haven.
..we'll ask the mods from GS to not be so sensitive on this matter.
Hurrah x2.
One question however:
Horus is an international server in which a multitude of languages are spoken frequently. GameSamba's own policy for Raven is strictly English only.
Will this policy be nullified for Haven?
Frosk
04-16-2012, 06:41 PM
Hurrah x2.
One question however:
Horus is an international server in which a multitude of languages are spoken frequently. GameSamba's own policy for Raven is strictly English only.
Will this policy be nullified for Haven?
Of course.
Haven will be an international server, which means not only people from North America is allowed, but also from other parts of the world.
We wouldn't have planned the merge if it applied to north america only... :bangin:
Archonaut
04-16-2012, 06:41 PM
What if you're on both?
I have an account created on NGD and one on Gamesamba - same username and same pass.
I have characters in Syrtis on Horus and characters in Ignis on Raven.
How will the merge deal with this?
I could really use an answer to this.
Regards,
How hard is it to change the password? If you change the pass of 1 of the 2 accounts they will split, I don't really see the problem unless I'm missing something.
Who hunts these days? No wmc reward, remember?
I really really really really hope few people actually think the same about this subject. Hunting is one of the top 'fun' things besides fort wars to do in this wonderful game. How can WMC coins ruin this? Again, I really hope you're one of the few who share this opinion because I defenitely do not agree with you.
About the merge, I truly am happy this merge has finally began. If I'm not mistaken, the warzone activity on Raven around my time: GMT+1 is very advantageous since Alsius is the most active from what I see, followed by Syrtis and then Ignis. Here on Horus it's pratically the opposite, this should boost population balance in my eyes. Again, this is what I have seen in the few (2) months I have played on Raven around my time I could be wrong of course.
There is one thing I probably will get annoyed by, the SGM on Raven which pratically know almost nothing about the game tend to interfere with the players a lot. Like Frosk said above: By the way, keep in mind that insults won't be allowed so freely. I know this may sound a bit... "invasive" to you, but as we ask you guys to not insult too much over a realm chat, we'll ask the mods from GS to not be so sensitive on this matter.
You could see this as an positive thing, of course less trolling, but it just shows they're controlling the players too much and the player freedom in Regnum Online was always something that I adored about this game. Maybe just my opinion.
I'm really looking forward and I can't wait for this to happen, see you all there :D.
If they have the same username and password, once you log in, you'll see all of the characters in the same character selection screen; no matter if they were originally from Horus or Raven.
Regards!
1st - Thanks for the response.
2nd - I will have 3 characters in syrtis and 3 in ignis on the same account , on the same server. So i will basically be a multirealmer. O.o
3d - Will I be able to smuggle heroin or any other kind of drugs from Syrtis to Ignis through my Account stash, Because that will get me lots and lots of money.
How hard is it to change the password? If you change the pass of 1 of the 2 accuonts they will split, I don't really see the problem unless I'm missing something.
This doesn't change a thing, they're still connected to the same user.
Archonaut
04-16-2012, 06:45 PM
This doesn't change a thing, they're still connected to the same user.
Weird, I have exactly the same, 1 account from NGD and 1 originally from GameSamba which had both the same inlog and password. When I changed the Raven one (password) I couldn't choose between NGD or Gamesamba anymore.
Psynocide
04-16-2012, 06:47 PM
I really really really really hope few people actually think the same about this subject. Hunting is one of the top 'fun' things besides fort wars to do in this wonderful game. How can WMC coins ruin this? Again, I really hope you're one of the few who share this opinion because I defenitely do not agree with you.
/OT
It is not my opinion - in fact, I haven't done any of the warmaster quests in about six months since I couldn't care less - but it is the opinion of many.
One of the biggest factors that dictates what a group of players will do revolve around the question "Will it count towards our quest?".
Obviously since hunting would not contribute in any way, I've noticed that there are far less hunting parties these days.
Also, it is a matter of perspective as to whether or not hunting is fun - personally as I play a knight primarily, it certainly isn't (as most knights will agree).
Weird, I have exactly the same, 1 account from NGD and 1 originally from GameSamba which had both the same inlog and password. When I changed the Raven one (password) I couldn't choose between NGD or Gamesamba anymore.
If you have characters from multiple realms, they will be combined into a new multi realm account. While you will be able to retain and play with your characters from different realms, any new characters created will be the realm of the oldest existing character.
This has pretty much answered my question, from now on I will be a multirealmer. Unless i delete my Ignis characters ( which will most likely happen )
dip1stick
04-16-2012, 06:52 PM
But he is talking about 2 different realms, it still applies?
I dont think they care about multirealming( mutli accounts) anymore, revenue wins over t&c's
NGD/GS, this is a fail.
Just recently in syrtis there were problems with players who have lvl 60 chars in another realm , coming and going which caused a lot of grief for themselves and others, I doubt the GM's will be able to handle all the fallout of this wholesale abuse.
I think that your constant tinkering with this server will eventually blow up in your face.
AariEv
04-16-2012, 06:58 PM
Hurrah x2.
One question however:
Horus is an international server in which a multitude of languages are spoken frequently. GameSamba's own policy for Raven is strictly English only.
Will this policy be nullified for Haven?
This is just wrong, and every time someone makes a comment of this nature, it's obvious they haven't spent time on Raven at all. Raven is not strictly English. They monitor and moderate ONE chat in the game: Realm chat and they did this simply because it's the first thing new players see. As it used to be a North American English server, not many North American people would be comfortable starting the game and seeing all German (for example) in the chat.
Aside from that one chat, the GMs don't give a damn. No GM will interfere with general party or clan. How often do you speak in realm chat, really.
Ulti19
04-16-2012, 07:01 PM
I've never had any bad experiences with gm's on Raven when I played there. I bet if you start swearing at them in realm chat of course they would do something, I think that would apply in Horus too if Surak came on for example and some people started being really offensive with him or something. I like how Horus wz isn't really moderated at all though, hope that doesn't change. And really hope that my screen won't be spammed with giant messages every 20 minutes either.
Other than that the only thing that bugs me is I have my knight in Ignis on Raven so I kind of have to stop playing him completely as I myself don't want to multirealm on the same server. So kinda sucks because I liked alot of the people in that server.
I look forward to this though, the population increase alone is worth it for me. Now ignis night crew in Horus will have people to fight in my timezone:)
grimmace512
04-16-2012, 07:13 PM
Very excited about server merge, get to consolidate all my characters and gear, and get to play with all my friends on one server :D
Shwish
04-16-2012, 07:22 PM
Horus is an international server in which a multitude of languages are spoken frequently. GameSamba's own policy for Raven is strictly English only.
Actually its just English in the public realm chat. You're welcome to speak whatever language you want anywhere else.
OpperVaagheid
04-16-2012, 07:49 PM
Do all those people from Raven get there money back?
Lots of people came from Horus. Went raven to get away from evil horus. They payed money for it to lvl as soon as possible.. Now they get ported back to the server they wanted to go away from? :P
Oooh one more request.
Could you remove my ban from my barb 1 day earlier so i can enjoy the old horus with my barb and knight? I have been a good boy xD
Kitsuni
04-16-2012, 07:59 PM
Do all those people from Raven get there money back?
Lots of people came from Horus. Went raven to get away from evil horus. They payed money for it to lvl as soon as possible.. Now they get ported back to the server they wanted to go away from? :P
Oooh one more request.
Could you remove my ban from my barb 1 day earlier so i can enjoy the old horus with my barb and knight? I have been a good boy xD
And you will give me back all the money I spent levelling characters on RA before NGD created Horus too? ;)
Of course that is not going to happen. They've already got their money's worth if they played the characters for even a few months, that's just how NGD works.
OpperVaagheid
04-16-2012, 08:00 PM
And you will give me back all the money I spent levelling characters on RA before NGD created Horus too? ;)
Of course that is not going to happen. They've already got their money's worth if they played the characters for even a few months.
I know kits :) Was more teasing. That wasn't a serious question.. The part about the unban was :D
Orimae
04-16-2012, 08:01 PM
well the boost is 100% during weekdays and 200% on weekends. now that this runs 24/7 it really does not affect the warzone. whether or not this continues to be the case time will tell the gms pretty much stay innerrealm unless someone reports a hack being done or are stuck in the landscape
Well, going by past experiences on Horus...we get a 24 hour boost, war sucks, it's pretty much non existant, really, so hard to get a decent team up to do anything with, a few hunters around, but with the WM coin's only obtainable at forts, maybe it wont be so bad...time will tell. (maybe that's just me tho :P )
Personally, I will wait. I cannot vote on something simply because I scotch-taped together my ideas of what a merge might mean.
Damnit Arty...stop being right all the time and making me feel bad for being rash!! :P ..i do still stand by what i said, but time will tell how it all goes.
On Server administration:
Anyway, we already spoke and set some terms with their mods, and as a plus, NGD will still supervise their labor in Haven.
Am i seeing this wrong, but you guys at NGD will be babysitting the babysitters? Sorry to put it bluntly, but thats how i see it, is that not defeating the purpose of the GM/GC role, you guys have to be online to monitor them, isn't that what they are there for? I dunno, that seems strange.
By the way, keep in mind that insults won't be allowed so freely. I know this may sound a bit... "invasive" to you, but as we ask you guys to not insult too much over a realm chat, we'll ask the mods from GS to not be so sensitive on this matter.
Regards!
I guess i do see it as a bit invasive, like a few have mentioned, Horus is a pretty grown up server, alot of us are 25+ and do not relish the 'sunshine and rainbows' coming our way..we like to play rough and talk rough sometimes, were grown ups , thats the way the world is...
But thank you Forks for your replies, a few things put to rest for some, i still have a few worries, but like i said, i will wait and see how it goes..good luck NGD...just remember Tyr...how many still actively play Horus?
Do all those people from Raven get there money back?
Lots of people came from Horus. Went raven to get away from evil horus. They payed money for it to lvl as soon as possible.. Now they get ported back to the server they wanted to go away from? :P
There's also this...i really do wish you luck NGD...
Kitsuni
04-16-2012, 08:04 PM
Forks
I hereby vote that we adopt this as Frosk's official community nickname from this point on... ;)
I'm joking, don't ban me!
I've never had any bad experiences with gm's on Raven when I played there. I bet if you start swearing at them in realm chat of course they would do something, I think that would apply in Horus too if Surak came on for example and some people started being really offensive with him or something. I like how Horus wz isn't really moderated at all though, hope that doesn't change. And really hope that my screen won't be spammed with giant messages every 20 minutes either.
Other than that the only thing that bugs me is I have my knight in Ignis on Raven so I kind of have to stop playing him completely as I myself don't want to multirealm on the same server. So kinda sucks because I liked alot of the people in that server.
I look forward to this though, the population increase alone is worth it for me. Now ignis night crew in Horus will have people to fight in my timezone:)
The game is always alot better when you play, so I definitely hope to see you around alot more (as real life allows, of course).
SilverHaven
04-16-2012, 08:11 PM
Don't be that afraid of saying bad words in realm chat that much.
I whine a lot about bugs there and most of the time GMs listen silently and sometimes respond (such as we know about it, we contacted devs, or we will contact devs, ...).
I've said f*ck or sh*t so many times in realm chat. Most of the time they just tell you to be careful about your language. Worst thing that happened to me was that I got muted for a while for saying "f*ck me" when i got killed by enemy inside realm. They understand those words can just slip here and there and they won't ban you for it if you won't keep saying that on purpose.
And they just moderate realm chat. They don't care at all what you say in general, party, clan, ...
Psynocide
04-16-2012, 08:15 PM
Don't be that afraid of saying bad words in realm chat that much.
...
I don't swear like a sailor but I do like to imbue my sentences with a bit of colour from time to time, for emphasis mostly.
My concern is that I'll get flagged down by some moderator who happened to take something I said too seriously (As people often do around me, unfortunately).
Imago-Thunderfist
04-16-2012, 09:00 PM
good luck NGD...just remember Tyr...how many still actively play Horus?
Me! Me! Me! Me! Me!
and... erhm... Melian... and... hmm...
Orimae
04-16-2012, 09:12 PM
I hereby vote that we adopt this as Frosk's official community nickname from this point on... ;)
I have been calling him this since he started, well, since the first time i met him in Ignis chat :P
Forks!!! <3
I need to find the screenie you mess up my name :P
Name all the things!!!! o/
Me! Me! Me! Me! Me!
and... erhm... Melian... and... hmm...
LOL maybe 3 or 4 regularly play out of how many? sad to see the dutchies quit in such big numbers... :(
OpperVaagheid
04-16-2012, 09:13 PM
I don't swear like a sailor but I do like to imbue my sentences with a bit of colour from time to time, for emphasis mostly.
My concern is that I'll get flagged down by some moderator who happened to take something I said too seriously (As people often do around me, unfortunately).
As most of ignis knows, i can use bad words without wanting to insult someone (ask dupa :P). So i am kinda affraid some GM sees me doing that and i will get a ban for that.
But on the other side. If i can get a ban for doing that, i am also going to have a look at the GM's. If they are gonna be a pain or abuse their powers (like teleporting a stucked person in wz, or helping in a fight) they can get a report from me too.. Fair enough
vizsla
04-16-2012, 09:20 PM
So, it seems I'll become a multirealmer against my will.
How ironic. :)
Well, I haven't played since january anyway.
But I might hop in tomorrow for the last day of Horus, that should be fun.
TheBarbarianAlsius
04-16-2012, 09:43 PM
:punk::punk::punk:
i go to kill you!
The Barbarian .. Raven
SilverHaven
04-16-2012, 10:09 PM
:punk::punk::punk:
i go to kill you!
The Barbarian .. Raven
Aww I will come chat with you with my horus goat. Leth ^^
Kitsuni
04-16-2012, 10:42 PM
So, it seems I'll become a multirealmer against my will.
How ironic. :)
Well, I haven't played since january anyway.
But I might hop in tomorrow for the last day of Horus, that should be fun.
It's not against your will. You're perfectly free to play on only one set of characters and not multirealm.
I hate to sound mean here... but if you don't like it , what do you think everyone else has gone through every time NGD added or split a server, or nerfed a class beyond usefulness? Haven is just the last in a long line of events like this. Sometimes you just have to stop playing characters in this game, perhaps even forever.
I don't see NGD changing that any time soon, as we still lack realm transfer scrolls, despite many people wanting them (hint hint, NGD :p).
Klutu
04-16-2012, 10:50 PM
I really have to deal with Gamesamba mods.. and community mods..?
Ill keep my mouth shut i suppose... I just don't wanna hear
"SUPER DANCE COMPETITION IN BIRKA!! WINNER GETS 1k gold!!" and watch every dipshit run to Birka...
HelpMeHelpYou
04-16-2012, 10:55 PM
I started on horus, then moved to raven, got banned from raven and came back to horus...Will my old raven characters be unbanned? will my new characters be banned?
/me is scared :cuac:
I really have to deal with Gamesamba mods.. and community mods..?
Ill keep my mouth shut i suppose... I just don't wanna hear
"SUPER DANCE COMPETITION IN BIRKA!! WINNER GETS 1k gold!!" and watch every dipshit run to Birka...
KLUTY! SHHH....it ain't like that. Besides - NOW WE CAN GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!!!
:drums: :eguitar: :punk:
Frosk
04-16-2012, 11:09 PM
I started on horus, then moved to raven, got banned from raven and came back to horus...Will my old raven characters be unbanned? will my new characters be banned?
/me is scared :cuac:
There's no reason to "unban" any of your characters, and considering your "history", you should be scared :eguitar:
Regards!
Mattdoesrock
04-16-2012, 11:11 PM
NOW WE CAN GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!!
I take back what I said. I now welcome our new GameSamba overlords.
(I missed you boss)
Gnupis
04-16-2012, 11:15 PM
Heheh... can't wait, that's a very nice move to fix the server population issues! :hat:
Klutu
04-16-2012, 11:33 PM
KLUTY! SHHH....it ain't like that. Besides - NOW WE CAN GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!!!
:drums: :eguitar: :punk:
That's what i experienced on my level 22 barb and i logged out and never looked back :P
But ill retract my statement for the sake of the Band! Yus!
(Ill be back in a few weeks) :P
Now i just gotta drag Enio back from the dead, and Make Kyro and Any stop ragequitting!
Poor Jippy's stash must be full without me raiding it D:
And ill ask Ulti's wife if Ultimate can come out to play!
isgandarli
04-16-2012, 11:41 PM
How I see Horus:
http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg
How I see Raven:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jb7VGNBl8Wo/TR3sf0TAjnI/AAAAAAAAAB4/nNyvlC5EYY4/s1600/rainbow+pony.jpg
I just don't want to see Haven... :facepalm3:
HelpMeHelpYou
04-16-2012, 11:55 PM
There's no reason to "unban" any of your characters, and considering your "history", you should be scared :eguitar:
Regards!
i know, and i am very scared xD
the reason i asked about the unban is because i use the same username on horus as raven...soo if raven user is banned what about horus... and if the account gets merged...wont my raven chars be on the account?
/me more scared
That's what i experienced on my level 22 barb and i logged out and never looked back :P
But ill retract my statement for the sake of the Band! Yus!
(Ill be back in a few weeks) :P
Now i just gotta drag Enio back from the dead, and Make Kyro and Any stop ragequitting!
Poor Jippy's stash must be full without me raiding it D:
And ill ask Ulti's wife if Ultimate can come out to play!
But see now....you have your big bad barb and you can kill all those gelfs running to the dance-a-thon.
Immune
04-17-2012, 12:12 AM
I just don't wanna hear
"SUPER DANCE COMPETITION IN BIRKA!! WINNER GETS 1k gold!!" and watch every dipshit run to Birka...
I want to see this. Make it a WZ event actually, even better. Murder dance party.
And I still play alsius/horus sometimes... but am ignis/raven. I guess I will just multirealm until one or the other is banned. Or both, but I hope not that D:
HelpMeHelpYou
04-17-2012, 12:21 AM
but immune didnt u have a lvl 60 hunter on raven alsius?
Immune
04-17-2012, 12:22 AM
but immune didnt u have a lvl 60 hunter on raven alsius?
I do. But I don't play him anymore. Though I guess I will now since he's higher level than my horus toon.
Klutu
04-17-2012, 12:23 AM
I guess ill bring the Tutu Train back..
HelpMeHelpYou
04-17-2012, 12:23 AM
My hunter is 60 now over there..we will have to hunt sometime :D
PT_DaAr_PT
04-17-2012, 12:25 AM
I wonder what banable offenses like "save" camping and aggroing mobs onto bandwidth suckers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6071VMHRbu8) are gonna apply on Haven. :D
[OFFICIAL] RO Exploits/Glitch List + Sanctions (http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=2045)
Immune
04-17-2012, 12:26 AM
What I should do is dual log and hunt myself.
I would win.
HelpMeHelpYou
04-17-2012, 12:36 AM
no, i think you would win
Psynocide
04-17-2012, 12:43 AM
How I see Horus:
http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg
How I see Raven:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jb7VGNBl8Wo/TR3sf0TAjnI/AAAAAAAAAB4/nNyvlC5EYY4/s1600/rainbow+pony.jpg
I just don't want to see Haven... :facepalm3:
I'm still trying to work out which is worse but I guess two negatives make a positive so..
Hell-ponies, that'd be pretty boss.
Immune
04-17-2012, 01:23 AM
Hell-ponies
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTOuaZ8BLgjhjztLTEoIEc8PRl_-OqJXYhBOayouv4y-LLDk43ZOg
Why not.
Hopefully it wouldn't end like what happened with Tyr + Horus, let's see what this will bring.
Same here.
It was a chaos for a few months.
Wtv looking forward for good side of the game.I hope i will able to make now my daily wm quests that become monthly quest (kidding),and solve realm balance.
MrRafaII
04-17-2012, 01:53 AM
I agree with this! :)
Best War, more characters to the server ..
which I disagree is that we will have no bonus: (
my charachters of raven:
Mr rafa'jr (barb 60)
Chinchulin (warlock 50)
neo shenron (marks 50)
kawasaki (kgnith 50)
Froskk!! :D Te veo en raven amigo! :) jajaja xD
Ulti19
04-17-2012, 02:02 AM
That's what i experienced on my level 22 barb and i logged out and never looked back :P
But ill retract my statement for the sake of the Band! Yus!
(Ill be back in a few weeks) :P
Now i just gotta drag Enio back from the dead, and Make Kyro and Any stop ragequitting!
Poor Jippy's stash must be full without me raiding it D:
And ill ask Ulti's wife if Ultimate can come out to play!
I'm the only one from our clan still playing! :p
Jippy
04-17-2012, 02:55 AM
"now we can get the band back together!!!"
GOAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTPOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :banana::eguitar::bananajoy::guitar::metal:
_Seinvan
04-17-2012, 03:30 AM
I'm pretty excited for this, I get to see all my old Horus pals I left again! ^^
Alsius Raven = Ignis Horus as far as I know (they both onli infade @ nite), so maybe this'll bring some decent realm and timezone balance :)
Oh and Jipppppppppppp, I named my bear mount after your mom :D
Son_of_Olympus
04-17-2012, 03:56 AM
Can you make an option where i can switch realm? like if i have a aluisus character in raven and with this merge i wanted to play in ignis, can you make an option where i can switch in ignis rather than playing in aluisus on haven?
NotScias
04-17-2012, 06:08 AM
So instead of fighting the source of the crucial issues that are ruining Regnum and especially on low population servers, we try to staple two dead severs hoping people forget (for some time) about all the inherent issues of the game...
Shall I remember it's just merging what has been split previously ?
Hell yeah...
Tigerious
04-17-2012, 06:17 AM
Ok I hope it's in good thread this time
http://i.imgur.com/bEktO.png
Yeah I know how to read a FAQ...
http://i.imgur.com/z6ylQ.png
Questions not answered in RED
isgandarli
04-17-2012, 06:26 AM
There are funny moments... What will happen if one person play Horus and the other one Raven with the same char name? Who will be the REAL owner of that name? :confused:
Phrack
04-17-2012, 06:27 AM
Quick question
where will be the new server based?
*Europe (sweden like now Horus is)
*US
ty
Orimae
04-17-2012, 06:29 AM
There are funny moments... What should people do if different players play Horus and Raven with the same name? Who will be the owner? :confused:
lol...there is a lock who didn't like sand very much who adopted an old horus payers name......it's going to be very interesting... XD
But wait..dont we already have hell ponies? those red ones? ...
/me waits for the brony invasion..
animalartist
04-17-2012, 07:03 AM
I have an NGD account and a gamesamba account. NGD = syrtis and gamesamba = alsius.
My gamesamba chars aren't lvled beyond 10, I obviously don't want to lose my NGD account. How will this merge affect my chars?
Same.
Horus - syrtis , 6 x 60 and Raven - alsius, 4 x 60
Does this mean multi realming is now allowed?????
The merge is great BUT i don't want two realms.
I know on raven it is very much frowned upon and people were threatened with a ban for it so what now?.
Refund the xim i bought on one of the accounts and delete the chars?
Avraam
04-17-2012, 07:06 AM
So,honestly IT WOULD BE AWESOME if GS will manage the server like they did on Raven .Because many players moved to Raven from Horus ,that meant GS was doing pretty good with all those events and boosts. And that really didn't kill the war. Even with the 200% boost there still was some kinda nice warzone activity.
Haven would be the most epic server ever if GS will continue with the boosts event like they did on Raven.:punk:
It will be pretty interesting. I remember when they merged Tyr and we met the duchies(we love you r*kkers!). I suppose with americans will be pretty nice too.
Europeans and americans will be pretty funny to watch in battles...
roonwick
04-17-2012, 07:37 AM
at the moment I'm just wondering what time the merge will start. NGD start of business? 0 GMT? quite a difference.
VeterKh
04-17-2012, 07:53 AM
Great work NGD!
and good luck to all!
Quick question
where will be the new server based?
*Europe (sweden like now Horus is)
*US
ty
A good question...because for europeans sweden was good ,for a good connection,but if he will be hosted on gamesamba..then europeans will have lots of lagg because wee need to pass true england node that is havy load all time.
Hmmm yes good question. Right now my gameplay ping to Horus is 80-120ms. If hosted in US things will get alot worse for sure.
71175
04-17-2012, 09:10 AM
My ping to Horus and Raven is same, 150s xD.
Kitsuni
04-17-2012, 09:22 AM
Raven is still hosted in Sweden. If I remember correctly, GS needed to meet some demand first to start a US server, can't remember the requirements.
My ping to Horus and Raven is same, 150s xD.
Mine not:
Gamesamba connection:
ping gamesamba.com
PING gamesamba.com (50.116.65.35): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=172.292 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=171.840 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=170.975 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=171.781 ms
Horus connection:
ping 91.123.197.138
PING 91.123.197.138 (91.123.197.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=70.116 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=68.677 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=83.480 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=69.723 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=69.474 ms
So connection latency is almost triple with usa.But in game will act even worse.
Hmm but if both servers are hosted on sweden then is no issue.
Shwish
04-17-2012, 09:57 AM
A special request to NGD and Gamesamba is if we could continue running the regular LRS tournaments as we usually do on Raven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHH4jx_yXLE
Here's a peak for those of you who aren't familiar with it
71175
04-17-2012, 10:15 AM
Mine not:
Gamesamba connection:
ping gamesamba.com
PING gamesamba.com (50.116.65.35): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=172.292 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=171.840 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=170.975 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=171.781 ms
Horus connection:
ping 91.123.197.138
PING 91.123.197.138 (91.123.197.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=70.116 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=68.677 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=83.480 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=69.723 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=69.474 ms
So connection latency is almost triple with usa.But in game will act even worse.
Hmm but if both servers are hosted on sweden then is no issue.
GS != Raven hoster
Pakos
04-17-2012, 10:18 AM
Mine not:
Gamesamba connection:
ping gamesamba.com
PING gamesamba.com (50.116.65.35): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=172.292 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=171.840 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=170.975 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=171.781 ms
Horus connection:
ping 91.123.197.138
PING 91.123.197.138 (91.123.197.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=70.116 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=68.677 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=83.480 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=69.723 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=69.474 ms
So connection latency is almost triple with usa.But in game will act even worse.
Hmm but if both servers are hosted on sweden then is no issue.
gamesamba site is on different server so no point to check it.
which forum will be now official? Ro or gamesamba or something completly new? We should be together, splitting is bad for community :>
Kitsuni
04-17-2012, 10:36 AM
While we're on the topic.. .please move the new server to a North American host.
The United States is where many Internet services orginate, because of this nearly all ISPs are optimized to access US-hosted content. In comparison, some countries pick up very high ping times when sending and receiving data from the current Sweden host. For example, Australians pick up over 400-500ms(!) while they would only pick up 200-250ms to a US-hosted server, making the game very hard or impossible to play even though Australia is an English country.
Of course, the ping of Europeans would be slightly elevated to the 150-200ms range, but no more than anyone else's (e.g North American players) is now.
gamesamba site is on different server so no point to check it.
which forum will be now official? Ro or gamesamba or something completly new? We should be together, splitting is bad for community :>
I think this forum will continue to exist for current NGD players. However in the future all registrations will go through GameSamba just as it is now.
This means that over time, the GS forum will probably become the official International forum.
LucianDeathshield
04-17-2012, 10:44 AM
while they would only pick up 200-250ms to a US-hosted server, making the game very hard or impossible to play even though Australia is an English country.
.
Raven was a US-Hosted server right? (correct me if im wrong on this) I still picked up 400-500 ms ;P and i currently live in australia
71175
04-17-2012, 10:52 AM
Raven was a US-Hosted server right? (correct me if im wrong on this) I still picked up 400-500 ms ;P and i currently live in australia
No, Raven hosted at Sweden.
Wyatt
04-17-2012, 12:08 PM
which forum will be now official? Ro or gamesamba or something completly new? We should be together, splitting is bad for community :>
Regnum Online forum will remain active for the English community. From what Frosk told me (And correct me if I am wrong Frosk) GameSamba users will be able to access this forum as well.
All servers are hosted in Sweden via CityNetwork.
Regards,
Gifting Ximerin would be interesting to say the least. Considering we are all on one server now, it would be rather odd if a player which has GameSamba account cannot gift Ximerin to a pal on a NGD account.
Besides , this would pretty much solve the issue of players wanting to consolidate their Xim on one account. You would gift it to your needy account. The original sale is already registered with the publisher so there should be no issue.
At the end of the day there will be teething problems, a little chaos and both sides of the equation trying to work out how to operate within the respective cultures of the servers. Expect a crazy first few weeks. I'll probably log in just to take in the insanity, raging and spirited chats this will cause. That would be rather entertaining in itself.
Hopefully when the dust settles, all can get back to addressing other major issues that this merge will no doubt mask for some time. Population is a serious issue but, the game has other fundamental and conceptual issues that we must not lose sight of either.
This one will hopefully dull the effect of imbalanced invasions and make things a bit more balanced, at least this is what NGD hopes. Considering the migration patterns I am not quite sure yet. Such an idea may flatter to deceive. If players go back to original Horus accounts it could become rather interesting demographics indeed.
Another factor is the policy of a shepherding to forts. In my estimation this could on work well on low population with the effect of trying to draw players together and make the server look alive. With a boosted (?) population would this work out as well or would more flash points be needed? NGD will have to work that one out. I know what I think but there will be time for that discussion later on.
Cheers.
Psynocide
04-17-2012, 12:21 PM
..Shall I remember it's just merging what has been split previously ?
"..segmenting the userbase is no longer a smart choice."
Am I right in thinking we're agreed it was never the smart choice?
If things work out, I think the motto should be forgive but not forget.
S_N_I_P_E_R
04-17-2012, 01:00 PM
In regard to player merge from both servers, I have 3 chars on horus and 1 on raven, will this mean I will have the choice to select from all 4 chars even though I dont have the 6 char option on my account?
Adrian
04-17-2012, 02:36 PM
Mine not:
Gamesamba connection:
ping gamesamba.com
PING gamesamba.com (50.116.65.35): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=172.292 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=171.840 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=170.975 ms
64 bytes from 50.116.65.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=171.781 ms
Horus connection:
ping 91.123.197.138
PING 91.123.197.138 (91.123.197.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=70.116 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=68.677 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=83.480 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=69.723 ms
64 bytes from 91.123.197.138: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=69.474 ms
So connection latency is almost triple with usa.But in game will act even worse.
Hmm but if both servers are hosted on sweden then is no issue.
Haven will be in the same server hive that Horus and Raven (and all Regnum servers) always were located. So, no latency changes.
Tamui
04-17-2012, 02:45 PM
just remember Tyr...how many still actively play Horus?
Surely you haven't some my clan, damn those tyr's players :D( I salute you!(clan mostly<3))
Anyway this merge, I'm exited I was gonna take a break from RO, I'll stay for the first week, maybe who knows? I would grind another character to 60!
For those players I won't see today, SEEYA ON HAVEN!
Frosk
04-17-2012, 03:35 PM
Alright, just to state things clear (I barely understood it by myself the first days so I think it'll be a nice move to give one last explanation for you):
In case you have 2 acc's from Horus and Raven named, for example, "Frosk", and they both have the same exact username and password, the characters (accounts) won't be merged.
You'll still be able to select which referrer you wish to log in with (NGD Studios or GameSamba). This way both accounts won't act as one, like I've wrongly said before.
This also means that you won't be able to select characters from different realms in the same character selection screen, and of course, you won't be able to pass items from one realm to another through the account stash.
Note that a different thing will happen with those accounts from Gamigo, and that's why the initial confusion started. :P
For more info on that, I recommend those who have accounts over there to contact a Gamigo GM so you can have more precise info on it.
Anyway, I hope this was clear enough, as the same system as always will apply, with the only difference that instead of seeing Horus or Raven after picking up a referrer, you'll always see Haven in the Server selection menu.
Regards!
Angel_de_Combate
04-17-2012, 03:45 PM
I really have to deal with Gamesamba mods.. and community mods..?
Ill keep my mouth shut i suppose... I just don't wanna hear
"SUPER DANCE COMPETITION IN BIRKA!! WINNER GETS 1k gold!!" and watch every dipshit run to Birka...
Oh lord...:jacky_chun:
Dupa_z_Zasady
04-17-2012, 04:14 PM
"SUPER DANCE COMPETITION IN BIRKA!! WINNER GETS 1k gold!!" and watch every dipshit run to Birka...
Hey, at least you will have all dipshit out off WZ, no WS(5), no DS screwing up. You're lucky, Goats, you will have Van as GC, and what We, Ignis, are supposed to say. Giving us such GC is like spitting in our faces.
Archonaut
04-17-2012, 04:21 PM
good luck NGD...just remember Tyr...how many still actively play Horus?
Well me, like stated above Melian Ironarrow, I could name around 7 Tyr players on Alsius Horus only who still play (and for the people who aren't familiar with the old player peak numbers.. They were around 40). The merge between Tyr and Horus was absolutely not a fail, I can't see how this is your argument xD. We used to war with 3 vs 3, and no this is no joke but we actually yelled EPIC BATTLE AT AGGS when the numbers got around 10 people.
So no, merging Tyr with Horus was probably the best move for the sake of the server and the players. I couldn't see Tyr grow as much as (for example) Piranha now, or Nemon which has grown pretty nicely in comparison with Tyr.
Pakos
04-17-2012, 04:25 PM
Well me, like stated above Melian Ironarrow, I could name around 7 Tyr players on Alsius Horus only who still play (and for the people who aren't familiar with the old player peak numbers.. They were around 40). The merge between Tyr and Horus was absolutely not a fail, I can't see how this is your argument xD. We used to war with 3 vs 3, and no this is no joke but we actually yelled EPIC BATTLE AT AGGS when the numbers got around 10 people.
So no, merging Tyr with Horus was probably the best move for the sake of the server and the players. I couldn't see Tyr grow as much as (for example) Piranha now, or Nemon which has grown pretty nicely in comparison with Tyr.
dont forget about raven gm's, if they wont give up we will have alot more fun than horus ever had -.-
isgandarli
04-17-2012, 04:37 PM
dont forget about raven gm's, if they wont give up we will have alot more fun than horus ever had -.-
Mhm, especially when someone rages after spawning at CS with the words like "f*ck!!!! @!%#!$#". Now we'll be banned for that :D
Mhm, especially when someone rages after spawning at CS with the words like "f*ck!!!! @!%#!$#". Now we'll be banned for that :D
Then don't do that :bangin:
von1958
04-17-2012, 04:45 PM
cs is outside of realm chat gm's don't care what you say there
Tamui
04-17-2012, 04:56 PM
Mhm, especially when someone rages after spawning at CS with the words like "f*ck!!!! @!%#!$#". Now we'll be banned for that :D
Oh noes! I'm gonna get pre-banned then! xD
good luck NGD...just remember Tyr...how many still actively play Horus?
I could name around 7 Tyr players on Alsius Horus only who still play
And I can name about 6 in syrtis, that makes 13 players total!
VandaMan
04-17-2012, 05:16 PM
You're lucky, Goats, you will have Van as GC, and what We, Ignis, are supposed to say. Giving us such GC is like spitting in our faces.
I'm not quite sure what this means. xD
Rising_Cold
04-17-2012, 05:26 PM
I think this will stop the complains about the night crew stuff
I doubt a lot will change for Europe, but if it does, (/me deleted the following.. you never know.. :p)
Looking forward to find some more rivals.. and lets hope there are some cute goats too
(you can never have enough);)
v0rt3x
04-17-2012, 05:29 PM
Note that a different thing will happen with those accounts from Gamigo, and that's why the initial confusion started. :P
For more info on that, I recommend those who have accounts over there to contact a Gamigo GM so you can have more precise info on it.
That´s a good joke. Gamigo GM´s say, that they doesn´t know anything about this. They must contact NGD now for more info. :bangin:
Any infos about the name of the new German server?
grimmace512
04-17-2012, 05:39 PM
Mhm, especially when someone rages after spawning at CS with the words like "f*ck!!!! @!%#!$#". Now we'll be banned for that :D
The no swearing only ever applied to the inner realm chat. So no you won't be banned for swearing at CS.
kasper10
04-17-2012, 05:40 PM
Im also from tyr !
I was Sir Gandalf (my conjurer which i dont play alot anymore) in tyr
I'm Bloody General (that awesome barb) on horus
Frosk
04-17-2012, 05:53 PM
That´s a good joke. Gamigo GM´s say, that they doesn´t know anything about this. They must contact NGD now for more info. :bangin:
Any infos about the name of the new German server?
They should know. It's their server :P
MrRafaII
04-17-2012, 06:06 PM
I'm pretty excited for this, I get to see all my old Horus pals I left again! ^^
Alsius Raven = Ignis Horus as far as I know (they both onli infade @ nite), so maybe this'll bring some decent realm and timezone balance :)
Oh and Jipppppppppppp, I named my bear mount after your mom :D
Meathh!!
Letahl Spanish Factory (raven) with 8 wms go to serv horus :) :bounce:
time-to-die
04-17-2012, 06:08 PM
Tyr the good old teamwork!
Elchamakitopra
04-17-2012, 06:12 PM
bye bye bonus xD xD
i put like xD
Rising_Cold
04-17-2012, 06:16 PM
I do have one question.. our names will have (horus) behind it in haven
(just like you see with the (tyr) ones i guess)
I think I got that part, but you get the name change scroll
and in another thread frosk said you cant use names that are used before..
So if my name is changed to Winter Mage (Horus)
Is it possible to change it back to Winter Mage?
or does that fall under 'used before'?
(I do like WM xD)
isgandarli
04-17-2012, 06:22 PM
One more question. What if different players have the same char names in Raven and Horus. So will be allowed to take a real name?
Frosk
04-17-2012, 06:29 PM
I do have one question.. our names will have (horus) behind it in haven
(just like you see with the (tyr) ones i guess)
I think I got that part, but you get the name change scroll
and in another thread frosk said you cant use names that are used before..
So if my name is changed to Winter Mage (Horus)
Is it possible to change it back to Winter Mage?
or does that fall under 'used before'?
(I do like WM xD)
How will this impact my name?
Due to the nature of the merge, character names will include a suffix of the server they came from. After the new server is online, all users logging in will have free name change scrolls on their characters. Using these, you will be able to rename your character, or keep your existing name and remove the suffix.
Clan names will also receive the suffix, and the same rules for impersonation will apply.
Can I make my new name anything I want?
Anything within the rules of the game, yes. Regular naming rules will apply. We also ask that our players employ common courtesy and don’t attempt to steal the name of another active player. Should this happen, if that person attempts to impersonate the original holder of that name, disciplinary actions will be taken.
If you find someone has begun impersonating you, please contact the in-game support.
There :p
On the other hand...
One more question. What if different players have the same char names in Raven and Horus. So will be allowed to take a real name?
The one that changes the name first will have it for himself/herself.
Obviously this won't be allowed if, and only if, someone intentionally tries to impersonate someone.
Regards.
Rising_Cold
04-17-2012, 06:57 PM
There :p
:facepalm:
tnx frosk.. i should get a dictionary next time xD
Alright, just to state things clear (I barely understood it by myself the first days so I think it'll be a nice move to give one last explanation for you):
In case you have 2 acc's from Horus and Raven named, for example, "Frosk", and they both have the same exact username and password, the characters (accounts) won't be merged.
You'll still be able to select which referrer you wish to log in with (NGD Studios or GameSamba). This way both accounts won't act as one, like I've wrongly said before.
This also means that you won't be able to select characters from different realms in the same character selection screen, and of course, you won't be able to pass items from one realm to another through the account stash.
Note that a different thing will happen with those accounts from Gamigo, and that's why the initial confusion started. :P
For more info on that, I recommend those who have accounts over there to contact a Gamigo GM so you can have more precise info on it.
Anyway, I hope this was clear enough, as the same system as always will apply, with the only difference that instead of seeing Horus or Raven after picking up a referrer, you'll always see Haven in the Server selection menu.
Regards!
Thx for clearing that up \o/
Pnarpa
04-17-2012, 07:31 PM
I already have a suffix behind my name, do I get two now? :D
Pnarpa (tyr) => Pnarpa (tyr) (horus)?
Archonaut
04-17-2012, 08:06 PM
And I can name about 6 in syrtis, that makes 13 players total!
Are you trying to be sarcastic? 13 is one hell of a lot if we're still talking about the same server.
Seher
04-17-2012, 09:44 PM
How I see Horus:
http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg
How I see Raven:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jb7VGNBl8Wo/TR3sf0TAjnI/AAAAAAAAAB4/nNyvlC5EYY4/s1600/rainbow+pony.jpg
I just don't want to see Haven... :facepalm3:
I’d play all day on Raven if it actually had ponies.
I‘d prefer G4 though.
I barely understood it by myself the first days
On a totally unrelated note, this is why I like you. ;P You admit mistakes and don’t make a big deal out of it.
On a more related note… I’m going to have 12 characters on one account, dafuq. o.o
animalartist
04-17-2012, 10:15 PM
Alright, just to state things clear (I barely understood it by myself the first days so I think it'll be a nice move to give one last explanation for you):
In case you have 2 acc's from Horus and Raven named, for example, "Frosk", and they both have the same exact username and password, the characters (accounts) won't be merged.
You'll still be able to select which referrer you wish to log in with (NGD Studios or GameSamba). This way both accounts won't act as one, like I've wrongly said before.
This also means that you won't be able to select characters from different realms in the same character selection screen, and of course, you won't be able to pass items from one realm to another through the account stash.
Note that a different thing will happen with those accounts from Gamigo, and that's why the initial confusion started. :P
For more info on that, I recommend those who have accounts over there to contact a Gamigo GM so you can have more precise info on it.
Anyway, I hope this was clear enough, as the same system as always will apply, with the only difference that instead of seeing Horus or Raven after picking up a referrer, you'll always see Haven in the Server selection menu.
Regards!
I notice you closed my thread but didnt answer my questions... you just passed me off to off some link with different info on it:dumbofme:
My accounts are different, i dont care about that.....
I dont want to multi realm, I dont want to be forced to fight friends when things are boring in one realm BUT i still want the characters i 'paid' and worked hard for.
So..... let those who wish........ to have just 1 - ONE realm
I think that's easy enough for you people to understand?
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 08:33 AM
Realm change scroll is a neccessity now. Please don't ignore it NGD, it'll cause alot of stress on players if something like this isn't implemented.
People are tired of losing the ability of playing characters or be forced with multirealming. We had the same exact problem when character transfers were added.
lvl 60 free scroll?!?!?!?!
Tenel_Ka
04-18-2012, 09:24 AM
Realm change scroll is a necessity now. Please don't ignore it NGD, it'll cause a lot of stress on players if something like this isn't implemented.
People are tired of losing the ability of playing characters or be forced with multirealming. We had the same exact problem when character transfers were added.
I agree with you that a realm change scroll is needed, but it still leaves a lot of problems.
A realm change scroll just isn't enough for those who made L60s of the same class in both Raven and Horus. A class change scroll could fix this issue, but this doesn't help players who already have L60s of every class.
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 09:33 AM
I agree with you that a realm change scroll is needed, but it still leaves a lot of problems.
A realm change scroll just isn't enough for those who made L60s of the same class in both Raven and Horus. A class change scroll could fix this issue, but this doesn't help players who already have L60s of every class.
Maybe add the ability to redeem a character entrely, or gift it to someone else's account (lol). I think that's beyond NGD's ability though...
lvl 60 free scroll?!?!?!?!
Its not frree, but it will be half price ($61 instead of $120) for a single day after the merger, day 3 I believe.
Pakos
04-18-2012, 11:10 AM
when its gonna start?
And so it begins. Bye Bye Horus.
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 01:36 PM
when its gonna start?
Server went into maintenance mode just over four hours ago. That means the database was locked, most likely for backup.
Horus is down now since an hour or so, so I guess its that time.
Vincent_Valentine7
04-18-2012, 02:04 PM
Long Live Horus The Black Flame Dragon
_Seinvan
04-18-2012, 02:13 PM
Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but..
On Raven the GMs hosted an event called "Last Realms Standing", a PvP/3v3/5v5 tournament. Players could sign up via website, form team names, and those who weren't participating could spectate. Spectating and even participating is entirely optional. It was a lot of fun, now I'm just curious if it'll be hosted on "Haven" as well xP
EDIT: post got answered on the GameSamba forum, looks like it's gonna be here :D
The_Krome_Dragon
04-18-2012, 02:34 PM
Farewell Horus, Twas Fun.:thumb:
Now to begin the war again on Haven:gun_bandana::viking::swordfight:
Horus always lives - no matter it will be called Heaven. Long live Horus and wellcome to Hell erm....Heaven. :viking:
OpperVaagheid
04-18-2012, 02:43 PM
What about the GM's in raven who first played in [horus]syrtis, alsius or ignis and then went to raven as a GM in another realm.
They will be still a gm in that realm? Which means they can see the plans of a realm, after there shift they pop to there own realm and tell all the plans so they can ruin it? Any thoughts about that?
_Seinvan
04-18-2012, 02:45 PM
What about the GM's in raven who first played in [horus]syrtis, alsius or ignis and then went to raven as a GM in another realm.
They will be still a gm in that realm? Which means they can see the plans of a realm, after there shift they pop to there own realm and tell all the plans so they can ruin it? Any thoughts about that?
I think you're talking about Game Counselors (GCs) not, GMs. GCs are there to help new players and answer questions in realm chat. They are vets from other servers, not the GMs. As far as I know, GCs are realm specific, and cannot read any chat boxes of other realms :p
Plans...everyone knows when invasions happens and i doubt anyone cares actually. We have forum for this which i can not say it is sure to be not read from someone from enemy realm, but at least it is ment to be like that. It is good as trading place too.
OpperVaagheid
04-18-2012, 03:04 PM
I think you're talking about Game Counselors (GCs) not, GMs. GCs are there to help new players and answer questions in realm chat. They are vets from other servers, not the GMs. As far as I know, GCs are realm specific, and cannot read any chat boxes of other realms :p
GC's is indeed what i mean.
But i mean. Some people are GC's on raven in ignis.
There old player on horus for example played on horus in syrtis.
You get my point? :)
Frosk
04-18-2012, 03:08 PM
I notice you closed my thread but didnt answer my questions... you just passed me off to off some link with different info on it:dumbofme:
My accounts are different, i dont care about that.....
I dont want to multi realm, I dont want to be forced to fight friends when things are boring in one realm BUT i still want the characters i 'paid' and worked hard for.
So..... let those who wish........ to have just 1 - ONE realm
I think that's easy enough for you people to understand?
Your characters won't be lost, you'll still have them all, with their items, their set-up, their equipment, and you will still be able to fight for the realm you have your characters on.
On a side note, try not to be rude when asking something, specially when it's about something that has been previously stated in an official FAQ. Keep this in mind if you wish to receive a proper answer next time, alright?
Thanks.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about it much. A lot of nonsense is going to happen the first week and expect technical issues.
This teething process has to be expected and I would suggest you all dig in for the ride. In a few weeks, dust will settle and the raging issues and questions will be resolved or at least moderated.
Expected:
*Normal bugs, lags, glitches, general technical issues with every NGD update
*Claims regarding names
*Interpersonal storms in a teacup
*GM teething issues.
*bonus, event teething issues.
* claims of multirealming and the usual foolishness we always get into.
* usual moans, cries, whining, trolling and in other words, a normal day on the forums and in-game.
After a while it will all settle down. At this moment I am glad I am not a NGD employee.
_Seinvan
04-18-2012, 03:37 PM
GC's is indeed what i mean.
But i mean. Some people are GC's on raven in ignis.
There old player on horus for example played on horus in syrtis.
You get my point? :)
Ah, gotcha. In that case I'm not sure.. they'll be fired? xD Or at the very least moved to their home realm. I doubt any GCs would do any sort of "spying" (not that it really matters, like Ieti said) but hey.. you never know.
Frosk
04-18-2012, 03:47 PM
Personally, I wouldn't worry about it much. A lot of nonsense is going to happen the first week and expect technical issues.
This teething process has to be expected and I would suggest you all dig in for the ride. In a few weeks, dust will settle and the raging issues and questions will be resolved or at least moderated.
Expected:
*Normal bugs, lags, glitches, general technical issues with every NGD update
*Claims regarding names
*Interpersonal storms in a teacup
*GM teething issues.
*bonus, event teething issues.
* claims of multirealming and the usual foolishness we always get into.
* usual moans, cries, whining, trolling and in other words, a normal day on the forums and in-game.
After a while it will all settle down. At this moment I am glad I am not a NGD employee.
That's right, the first week at least will be very chaotic, specially with the names (people from Support will have a lot on their hands).
Anyway, as you've said, everything will settle later once they adapt. And those who don't... well... I guess they'll find something more productive to do. :D
philip111
04-18-2012, 04:28 PM
sorry i just got back from a long day, and i didnt see when server went offline. so what time GMT did it go offline? that way i can know when to expect to try and get on.
Thanks.
Archonaut
04-18-2012, 04:49 PM
(people from Support will have a lot on their hands).
So that means you have people for support tickets only? That's pretty... Shocking to hear actually xD.
Anyway
Realm change scroll is a neccessity now. Please don't ignore it NGD, it'll cause alot of stress on players if something like this isn't implemented.
People are tired of losing the ability of playing characters or be forced with multirealming. We had the same exact problem when character transfers were added.
Well even though I can see how annoying this can be, I don't think they should implent Realm Change Scroll's as a ximerin product. I do however think that everyone who has 2 different realms on 1 account should get a once in a lifetime realm change scroll but that's it. Nothing more nothing less, it would get pretty unbalanced if everybody started hopping over different realms, wouldn't it?
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 04:53 PM
Well even though I can see how annoying this can be, I don't think they should implent Realm Change Scroll's as a ximerin product. I do however think that everyone who has 2 different realms on 1 account should get a once in a lifetime realm change scroll but that's it. Nothing more nothing less, it would get pretty unbalanced if everybody started hopping over different realms, wouldn't it?
With recent extreme changes to the makeup of the servers i don't feel like this argument is valid any longer.
I think you're underestimating how many people are going to be on this new server. Prior to its closure, Raven was slightly more populated than Horus.
standistortion
04-18-2012, 05:00 PM
I do however think that everyone who has 2 different realms on 1 account should get a once in a lifetime realm change scroll but that's it. Nothing more nothing less, it would get pretty unbalanced if everybody started hopping over different realms, wouldn't it?
+1, folks want to be loyal to the realm they play, a lot who stuck by their realm through thick and thin on horus took the chance to move to a realm they respect when raven was launched and should be allowed (even forced) to remain loyal to a single realm with this merge.
71175
04-18-2012, 06:05 PM
So with merging Horus and Raven they are introducing IP block for German, France, Switzerland, Portugal and Brazil... Everyone got his proxy xD?
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 06:17 PM
So with merging Horus and Raven they are introducing IP block for German, France, Switzerland, Portugal and Brazil... Everyone got his proxy xD?
Nope, Frosk already said it will be international. I think that the new server will also be an "upgraded" Raven, not Horus, so there will be no code present for IP blocks as it will use the Realms Online launcher. I don't think those players would be very happy if NGD suddenly blocked them, when they already play there. :)
Of course, all new accounts will still be derailed towards the appropriate publishers for the countries that you listed.
pauluzz
04-18-2012, 06:17 PM
I notice you closed my thread but didnt answer my questions... you just passed me off to off some link with different info on it:dumbofme:
My accounts are different, i dont care about that.....
I dont want to multi realm, I dont want to be forced to fight friends when things are boring in one realm BUT i still want the characters i 'paid' and worked hard for.
So..... let those who wish........ to have just 1 - ONE realm
I think that's easy enough for you people to understand?
hey woody,
A GM on raven said this:
'If you do have characters in multiple Realms and want them switched please contact an Ingame GM to see what needs to be done and if is will be allowed.'
so maybe there is hope ;)
_Kharbon_
04-18-2012, 06:18 PM
Nope, Frosk already said it will be international. The new server will also be replacing Raven, not Horus, so there will be no code present for IP blocks.
Yes, there will, as stated here on gamesamba forums: http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
PT_DaAr_PT
04-18-2012, 06:21 PM
Yes, there will, as stated here on gamesamba forums: http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
Portugal's in that list.
<.<
Why not Argentina and Spain too? >->
If I may ask, whats the point of IP-blocking a country? To get less players?
AMPZORD
04-18-2012, 06:23 PM
Yes, there will, as stated here on gamesamba forums: http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
So I've got a character on Horus, now Haven, and I won't be able to use it anymore because i'm from Portugal?..
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 06:24 PM
Yes, there will, as stated here on gamesamba forums: http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
Um.. this contradicts what Frosk said earlier. Please don't go by GS words, tthey are known for posting misinformation.
Wait until an official reply from NGD. I don't believe that they would suddenly block a significant portion of Raven's userbase "just because".
I really hope they were referring to IP blocking new accounts.
This is my guess, but it's still pretty rediculous... I thought the whole point of Haven was to get over this lame behavior of splitting people up...
PT_DaAr_PT
04-18-2012, 06:24 PM
I really hope they were referring to IP blocking new accounts.
_Kharbon_
04-18-2012, 06:26 PM
I guess it's to encourage players from those countries to join the server of the country... imho it's not an elegant solution...
Those guys at least deserve a free character transfer..? Or is it only registration block?
Kitsune: I don't really know how things go on gs forums... But if it's announced like that, it can't just be entirely wrong information..? If so, i'm getting afraid of the merge...
Archonaut
04-18-2012, 06:29 PM
I really hope they were referring to IP blocking new accounts.
Well of course right? You can't block players who are lvl 60, WM, have played RO for years and all of a sudden block their region? How can anyone even dare to do something like that, Tyr had the same. I remember a few players on Tyr who still had Tyr on their list together with Horus because their account was made before Tyr launched. I on the other hand couldn't enter Horus because of IP blocks.
PT_DaAr_PT
04-18-2012, 06:32 PM
I guess it's to encourage players from those countries to join the server of the country... imho it's not an elegant solution...
No, but I can understand why. A month ago, a portion of Piranha's population switched to Raven because they heard about the huge amount of goodies that the GMs were offering there, from XP boosts to free mounts and WELCOME TO RAVEN messages in the imitation zone. :rolleyes:
Most switched back once they realized it's all the same thing, just advertised differently.
Ulti19
04-18-2012, 06:35 PM
I doubt they would block existing users IP's. This would be a very bad financial move on their part as alot of people in horus play and probably pay from those countries. And it would kinda ruin their reputation seeing as many lv 60 characters would be banned from playing ever again.
Kitsuni
04-18-2012, 06:37 PM
I doubt they would block existing users IP's. This would be a very bad financial move on their part as alot of people in horus play and probably pay from those countries. And it would kinda ruin their reputation seeing as many lv 60 characters would be banned from playing ever again.
I am completely in agreement with this. People, remember that GS does not make the game, only publish the English version. They probably do not understand the difference between "new account block" and "IP block" and why the latter is much more severe... wait until Frosk replies to jump to conclusions.
Seher
04-18-2012, 07:20 PM
I hope you’re right, I don’t play that often but I still don’t want to lose my Horus Chars.
Frosk
04-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Hi guys
Don't worry about being able to enter or not Haven if you're from a country like Portugal (take Daar as an example).
Every single one of the users that have been previously playing in Horus will be able to play all they want in Haven.
Regards!
crystal88
04-18-2012, 07:29 PM
hello,
atm i can't see neither horus nor haven in the world list after logging in. I mean they are not in "off" state, they simply don't appear in the list. Is it normal?
Tamui
04-18-2012, 07:31 PM
hello,
atm i can't see neither horus nor haven in the world list after logging in. I mean they are not in "off" state, they simply don't appear in the list. Is it normal?
They arent on yet, they are still in the middle of the fusion dance :D
TheMessenger
04-18-2012, 07:33 PM
Hi guys
Don't worry about being able to enter or not Haven if you're from a country like Portugal (take Daar as an example).
Every single one of the users that have been previously playing in Horus will be able to play all they want in Haven.
Regards!
raven too?
Frosk
04-18-2012, 07:34 PM
raven too?
Logically yes.
Frosk
04-18-2012, 07:35 PM
Entering Haven... :D
PT_DaAr_PT
04-18-2012, 07:35 PM
Hi guys
Don't worry about being able to enter or not Haven if you're from a country like Portugal (take Daar as an example).
Every single one of the users that have been previously playing in Horus will be able to play all they want in Haven.
Regards!
\o/
Message forwarded! (http://i.imgur.com/HuQmD.png)
crystal88
04-18-2012, 07:40 PM
Haven is on!!
Hmm Haven is up,but need it to delete game.cfg and live folder to apear on my servers list.
Mac Os X client.
crystal88
04-18-2012, 08:18 PM
Haven is up, but FYI its pretty laggy atm
Btw i got killed 2 times in 30 mins. Fix It ASAP! :crying1:
Psynocide
04-18-2012, 08:24 PM
A place free from the Patriots control - OUTER HAV- wrong one, sorry.
Raghn
04-18-2012, 08:40 PM
I think block ip is serious, I can't load game anymore... DC... DC...
_Seinvan
04-18-2012, 08:40 PM
A place free from the Patriots control - OUTER HAV- wrong one, sorry.
A bit off topic, but is that a MGS4 reference? xD
Psynocide
04-18-2012, 08:42 PM
A bit off topic, but is that a MGS4 reference? xD
Whatever gave you that idea?
animalartist
04-18-2012, 10:22 PM
hey woody,
A GM on raven said this:
'If you do have characters in multiple Realms and want them switched please contact an Ingame GM to see what needs to be done and if is will be allowed.'
so maybe there is hope ;)
Thanks Paul....finally a direct answer to the question I have been asking, apparently rudely.
Frosk: sorry if you found my repeated asking of the same question rude - perhaps if i was answered at all, the first time i asked?
You still didnt answer my question though I dont think you understanding what was asking.
-Aniara-
04-19-2012, 12:56 AM
Well i had so fun first day in Haven! Epic fights :o) Felt like RA :)
Great work NGD and regards to all new citizens of Haven :)
RIP Horus and Raven
standistortion
04-19-2012, 09:25 AM
Yep, epic battles, total carnage in WZ :) Had a minor issue with xim (bought when logged in and didn't show up, ok when relogged), pm'd a GC and within a couple of min a GM was onto it, big thumbs up. Only complaint is I don't know who to darkness any more, now I've wiped the tears from my eyes and the pain in my sides has eased could NGD give Tiger his name back?
EDIT: Not over run with banners any more either, my lock is very happy.
LucianDeathshield
04-19-2012, 09:26 AM
Thanks so much for the merge .. Much love for haven :) Really good fights and yeah its like an english speaking Ra xD
kathastrophe
04-19-2012, 10:32 AM
why i cant access to Haven? :(
Salud! ;)
Leadoffhitter
04-19-2012, 10:48 AM
No access to Haven here, neither. No server to choose on GameSamba account.
Kitsuni
04-19-2012, 10:50 AM
Spanish players who could already play on Raven completely lost access to Haven. No server appears in the server list.
And we've got IP blocks for other countries as well. So much for international.
Angel_de_Combate
04-19-2012, 02:12 PM
why i cant access to Haven? :(
Salud! ;)
Is this why? :(
http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
Kitsuni
04-19-2012, 02:22 PM
Is this why? :(
http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
Frosk said a few pages back that existing users would still be able to play, but they can't. Maybe its some kind of bug.
Angel_de_Combate
04-19-2012, 02:40 PM
Frosk said a few pages back that existing users would still be able to play, but they can't. Maybe its some kind of bug.
*fingers crossed*
standistortion
04-19-2012, 02:57 PM
Spanish players who could already play on Raven completely lost access to Haven. No server appears in the server list.
And we've got IP blocks for other countries as well. So much for international.
Apparently IP restrictions will be removed in the update next week. Source, Chilko in Alsius realm chat. Thats kind of contrary to the gamesamba forum post linked to a few posts up though :/
Seher
04-19-2012, 03:39 PM
I can access Haven.
Kitsuni
04-19-2012, 05:09 PM
Apparently IP restrictions will be removed in the update next week. Source, Chilko in Alsius realm chat. Thats kind of contrary to the gamesamba forum post linked to a few posts up though :/
Yeah, just like Spanish IP restrictions on Horus were removed after a few months. Oh wait. :bangin:
standistortion
04-19-2012, 06:41 PM
Are all enemy kills valid for 30 kills quests again?
_Kharbon_
04-19-2012, 06:45 PM
Are all enemy kills valid for 30 kills quests again?
Nope, only kills at forts count
standistortion
04-19-2012, 06:54 PM
Nope, only kills at forts count
Thanks, I was getting mixed up with quests, still have the low lvl 20 kills quest. Might have a bug, got 1 red in the middle of a green zerg, could have been a camoed hunter but would have been a crazy place to be. Maybe something getting mixed up with multi realm accounts?
_Kharbon_
04-19-2012, 06:59 PM
Thanks, I was getting mixed up with quests, still have the low lvl 20 kills quest. Might have a bug, got 1 red in the middle of a green zerg, could have been a camoed hunter but would have been a crazy place to be. Maybe something getting mixed up with multi realm accounts?
I heard that there's some bug with incorrect realm counting, but I have never experienced it. I guess that hitting a ignis player would be more likely...
tjanex
04-19-2012, 07:30 PM
Anyone else noticed that the 24 hours promised 50% xp boost only lasted for about 15 hours?
time-to-die
04-19-2012, 07:39 PM
Anyone else noticed that the 24 hours promised 50% xp boost only lasted for about 15 hours?
Nope i onlu noticed that i cant join the fortwars anymore allot. 1-15fps....
Pakos
04-19-2012, 08:27 PM
Anyone else noticed that the 24 hours promised 50% xp boost only lasted for about 15 hours?
not sure how long but way before 24h
anyway im impressed, fights are awesome besides of disconnects and loooooow fps but thats mostly my problem :wink:
-Kalid-
04-19-2012, 10:06 PM
Anyone else noticed that the 24 hours promised 50% xp boost only lasted for about 15 hours?
Gamesamba "Day 1 and Day 2 have been switched. Sorry for any confusion!"..
Here.. scroll down :)
http://gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4993
Klutu
04-19-2012, 11:30 PM
So far the server seems quite energetic but we wont really see the improvements for a week or 2 when the hype wears down.
Is there a way to block the SGM's messages on the screen and keep it to the chat box? it's quite annoying to get a wall of text informing me a SGM is online while i'm trying to war
Ulti19
04-20-2012, 01:18 AM
Well I got an official response today.
If you have a character made by a ngd account and you are alsius for example.
And a raven character on gamsamba account in ignis for example.
You are free to play both characters because they were created before the merge and thus don't break any rules. Basically you can multi realm on haven.
You will not get xim back or any compensation for a character you spent on. You can freely use those characters. Even if they are all the same class... xD As in my case.
Just to clear things up for those that were asking.
tjanex
04-20-2012, 05:35 AM
Gamesamba "Day 1 and Day 2 have been switched. Sorry for any confusion!"..
Here.. scroll down :)
http://gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4993
This kind of ''important'' announcements should be announced at this Forum as well, not only GameSamba's forum or do we just have to move to GameSamba's forum now?
-Kalid-
04-20-2012, 06:20 AM
This kind of ''important'' announcements should be announced at this Forum as well, not only GameSamba's forum or do we just have to move to GameSamba's forum now?
I'd prefer you look more at gamesamba's forum, as mostly they introduce the new events.
I don't think ngd has the time to inform you all about the events done by gamesamba.
Orimae
04-20-2012, 06:37 AM
I dont want to multi realm, I dont want to be forced to fight friends when things are boring in one realm BUT i still want the characters i 'paid' and worked hard for.
Erm...then just don't log into one account then and ignore the other one? Nobody is forcing you to play two realms, you were the one who left Horus for Raven and decided to play a different realm there...then come back here and complain because you are being forced to multirealm....no, you became a multirealmer when you picked a different realm on Raven...
:facepalm3:
Immune
04-20-2012, 07:45 AM
Erm...then just don't log into one account then and ignore the other one? Nobody is forcing you to play two realms, you were the one who left Horus for Raven and decided to play a different realm there...then come back here and complain because you are being forced to multirealm....no, you became a multirealmer when you picked a different realm on Raven...
This is wrong. Playing different realms on different servers is not multirealming, because playing X-realm on A-server does not affect Y-realm on B-server. There is no connection until they are on the same server, which is now the case (not by player choice). You're right that we can just pick which characters not to play; I just don't agree that it was multirealming before this point. I mean I guess you can be literal about it, in which case yes we/I/whoever played different realms; but they were technically not even the same game at that point (Realms vs Regnum). So... meh. In any case, I give up and will just play all of my characters even if they are in different realms. Let whatever fiery wrath of doom that may result as a consequence come at me.
Angel_de_Combate
04-20-2012, 08:03 AM
Erm...then just don't log into one account then and ignore the other one? Nobody is forcing you to play two realms, you were the one who left Horus for Raven and decided to play a different realm there...then come back here and complain because you are being forced to multirealm....no, you became a multirealmer when you picked a different realm on Raven...
:facepalm3:
We dont know her reasons for moving to Raven. She just doesn't want to lose hard earned cash, all that time and effort she put in that's all. In a way she has been forced to choose a realm. That's why NGD should have implemented a realm transfer scroll, as a few people have already said.
Orimae
04-20-2012, 08:10 AM
Seems i'm the only left with any realm pride then :P Ignis all the way ;)
Angel_de_Combate
04-20-2012, 08:16 AM
Seems i'm the only left with any realm pride then :P Ignis all the way ;)
Somehow I don't think that's true. Everyone is entitled to play whatever realm or in the previous case server, they choose. :)
Angel_de_Combate
04-20-2012, 08:25 AM
This is wrong. Playing different realms on different servers is not multirealming, because playing X-realm on A-server does not affect Y-realm on B-server. There is no connection until they are on the same server, which is now the case (not by player choice). You're right that we can just pick which characters not to play; I just don't agree that it was multirealming before this point. I mean I guess you can be literal about it, in which case yes we/I/whoever played different realms; but they were technically not even the same game at that point (Realms vs Regnum).
+1 :D
So... meh. In any case, I give up and will just play all of my characters even if they are in different realms.
Let whatever fiery wrath of doom that may result as a consequence come at me.
Play Ignis more. :P
Orimae
04-20-2012, 08:29 AM
I never said they were not entitled :O
All i said is i seem to be the only one with realm pride :facepalm3:
Archonaut
04-20-2012, 08:31 AM
Seems i'm the only left with any realm pride then :P Ignis all the way ;)
No you're not, I agree with you and I know there are some people who would too.
It's not as if you're not allowed to join an other realm, it's just that when you play 1 realm for a pretty long time and you go through the hard times of the realm and the better times you get attached to it. But this is on 1 server only for me, I like playing the mid/underdog realm. When I joined Raven I noticed Alsius was number 1 population wise, Syrtis and Ignis were kinda battling but I'd say Ignis was better coordinated so Syrtis last(at least that was what I thought, not sure if true) so I grinded my char there just to help the population. Too bad the events screwed things up, but that's another story ;p.
Orimae
04-20-2012, 08:33 AM
No you're not, I agree with you and I know there are some people who would too.
It's not as if you're not allowed to join an other realm, it's just that when you play 1 realm for a pretty long time and you go through the hard times of the realm and the better times you get attached to it.
Thank you :)
animalartist
04-20-2012, 09:08 AM
Erm...then just don't log into one account then and ignore the other one? Nobody is forcing you to play two realms, you were the one who left Horus for Raven and decided to play a different realm there...then come back here and complain because you are being forced to multirealm....no, you became a multirealmer when you picked a different realm on Raven...
:facepalm3:
Your confused ... i never left. I still played the horus toons occasionally.
:dumbofme:
I'm annoyed because I was told this would never happen, no way no how, not ever.
Raven was a way to fill in the boring nights when no one was on at syrtis as alot of my clan mates/friends had gone there 'in my time zone'.
Angel_de_Combate
04-20-2012, 09:16 AM
I never said they were not entitled :O
All i said is i seem to be the only one with realm pride :facepalm3:
I know, I saw what you said and disagreed. I'm entitled to an opinion after all. :)
I'm sure most people who play for their chosen realm, have realm pride.
I'd prefer you look more at gamesamba's forum, as mostly they introduce the new events.
I don't think ngd has the time to inform you all about the events done by gamesamba.
Well, what about telling us which is the official forum ?
Personally, i'm using NGD one since years, i don't see why i should also check GameSamba one (never had nothing to do with them), and also FaceBook, website, etc...
Official announcements should have ONE primary channel, which, imho, should be the official website (and then posts on forums can link the official announcement on the website).
Also, it seems to me, that "events done by gamesamba" should be announced for Haven on NGD's forums by GameSamba team.
kathastrophe
04-20-2012, 10:31 AM
Is this why? :(
http://www.gamesamba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5013
Mecoooooo! :p
I can access now :D Kathastrophe (ex-Thanathos)- Ignis - Warlock :)
Salud! ;)
Angel_de_Combate
04-20-2012, 11:03 AM
Mecoooooo! :p
I can access now :D Kathastrophe (ex-Thanathos)- Ignis - Warlock :)
Salud! ;)
Kathassssss! Hola! <3
Grats :D
DkySven
04-20-2012, 12:34 PM
I believe SGMs are what GameSamba has instead of the Developers of NGD you see at Amun or (very rarely) on a live server (prefix [Dev]). People like Surak and Chilko are developers of Regnum and that's why they have that tag, their custom made armour and skills. GameSamba does not develop Regnum like NGD and thus must have another version of the superuser/admin character.
A normal GM - as I used to be - can turn him/herself invisible, but does not have a power to be untrackable or change size to giant as far as I know. Also, there's no GM armour and GMs can't make server announcements, at least not [GM1] and [GM2]. Game Councelers are new to me.
For now, I would wait a week until the dust settles down and then you can see what the normal routine is for GameSamba personel and start commenting then.
Darcyeti
04-20-2012, 01:55 PM
Also, there's no GM armour
sorry to correkt you, but [GM1] and [GM2] should have access to GM armor, as far as I remember ;)
Torcida
04-21-2012, 08:32 PM
I requested this to happen as one of the first (If I remember correctly.) Really happy to see my wish finally granted!
To all the people who told me I was unrealistic since this was 'impossible' to ever happen, In you're face.
DkySven
04-21-2012, 09:04 PM
sorry to correkt you, but [GM1] and [GM2] should have access to GM armor, as far as I remember ;)
I was a GM and know the item commands. I could not find GM armour.
Archonaut
04-22-2012, 05:14 PM
I requested this to happen as one of the first (If I remember correctly.) Really happy to see my wish finally granted!
To all the people who told me I was unrealistic since this was 'impossible' to ever happen, In you're face.
*Whistles, looks down and walks away.*
rogueish
04-24-2012, 03:03 AM
Personally I hate the merger as a Raven player.
From a Horus players perspective it my be different, but for those of us who left to get away from the BS that always seemed to be going on here this is a big step backward.
By agreeing to this merger GameSamba has shown themselves to care as little for their paying customers as NGD ever has.
Playing on Raven was a lot of fun, Guess now were all stuck with the Horus cluster f##k.
Rest in peace Raven, you will be missed.
animalartist
04-24-2012, 07:09 AM
Personally I hate the merger as a Raven player.
From a Horus players perspective it my be different, but for those of us who left to get away from the BS that always seemed to be going on here this is a big step backward.
By agreeing to this merger GameSamba has shown themselves to care as little for their paying customers as NGD ever has.
Playing on Raven was a lot of fun, Guess now were all stuck with the Horus cluster f##k.
Rest in peace Raven, you will be missed.
What he said ^^ +1
Rising_Cold
04-24-2012, 09:51 AM
Playing on Raven was a lot of fun, Guess now were all stuck with the Horus cluster f##k.
Rest in peace Raven, you will be missed.
wait.. no, nah.. yh guess so.. I feel sorry for you
Archonaut
04-24-2012, 03:44 PM
Personally I hate the merger as a Raven player.
From a Horus players perspective it my be different, but for those of us who left to get away from the BS that always seemed to be going on here this is a big step backward.
By agreeing to this merger GameSamba has shown themselves to care as little for their paying customers as NGD ever has.
Playing on Raven was a lot of fun, Guess now were all stuck with the Horus cluster f##k.
Rest in peace Raven, you will be missed.
Care to explain why? Some arguments perhaps?
The Horus Cluster F*ck? saywut?
Tamui
04-24-2012, 03:48 PM
Care to explain why? Some arguments perhaps?
The Horus Cluster F*ck? saywut?
Either because Dwarf beer isnt good OR Syrtis Cookies were dry OR Ignis sand got to his eyes much.
Quincebo
04-24-2012, 04:08 PM
Either because Dwarf beer isnt good OR Syrtis Cookies were dry OR Ignis sand got to his eyes much.
Or he loves those (s)gm's :poster_spam: messeges!!
_Seinvan
04-24-2012, 07:29 PM
Care to explain why? Some arguments perhaps?
The Horus Cluster F*ck? saywut?
I haven't been on lately (missed all this weekend to play Diablo 3 :D) but from what I saw in the few days after the merge, the server became very chaotic and hack-n-slash ish.
Now, before the merge, Raven (and I'm sure Horus, too) wasn't entirely WM spam and huge, chaotic fights. Yes, we had some here and there, but it wasn't as bad as it is now. Now everyone has offensive beacons that make half of everyone's powers obsolete.
To make matters worse, the new WM quest system greatly encourages fort farming, and either people won't leave the fort (because they can't get their WM kills) or people won't come near the fort (because they don't want their enemies to get their WM kills, or they lack the numbers to get their own kills).
Now, remove WM powers --particularly offensive beacons--and I'm sure things will get better.
Granted, this is all based on what I saw in the coming days after the merge. It might be a little different now, but I doubt it. :\
Kitsuni
04-26-2012, 03:03 PM
I haven't been on lately (missed all this weekend to play Diablo 3 :D) but from what I saw in the few days after the merge, the server became very chaotic and hack-n-slash ish.
Now, before the merge, Raven (and I'm sure Horus, too) wasn't entirely WM spam and huge, chaotic fights. Yes, we had some here and there, but it wasn't as bad as it is now. Now everyone has offensive beacons that make half of everyone's powers obsolete.
To make matters worse, the new WM quest system greatly encourages fort farming, and either people won't leave the fort (because they can't get their WM kills) or people won't come near the fort (because they don't want their enemies to get their WM kills, or they lack the numbers to get their own kills).
Now, remove WM powers --particularly offensive beacons--and I'm sure things will get better.
Granted, this is all based on what I saw in the coming days after the merge. It might be a little different now, but I doubt it. :\
Come back and give it another try now... the population has dropped off by quite alot and the server seems to be stabilizing.
Unfortunately I'm already noticing the return of old problems, too. Like everyone afk at save for hours on end, no fort wars, or imbalanced numbers. I guess we'll see how it turns out after another week when the population has completely solidified, but thus far it looks like the client performance has scared alot of people away. Sure, the other issues have caused an impact (like WM power spamming), but as a whole the low frame rates and lag are what I hear the #1 complaint about.
Hopefully NGD addresses some of the issues that were finally made obvious enough to them.
pauluzz
04-26-2012, 04:32 PM
plus everyone is grinding lamai's ;D
Well hopefully NGD will make rounds of tuning the engine. It was probably due anyway as we had issues all over the place that were just left unresolved.
Now, if they want big wars, they have to.
On the Lamai front, I think its a win for NGD. They will as expected , sell scrolls, boosters etc. When that money train starts to slow, they will free up the race change scroll in order to capitalize on that revenue stream.
If it is really, really successful I wouldn't write off the addition of another race.
Of course there is the next obvious track which would be to add other subclasses or fracture the current subclasses further.
Optionally , they can add hybrid classes that are premium content. That would make the most money.
Balance you say ? What's that ?
Rising_Cold
04-28-2012, 08:34 PM
If it is really, really successful I wouldn't write off the addition of another race.
Of course there is the next obvious track which would be to add other subclasses or fracture the current subclasses further.
Optionally , they can add hybrid classes that are premium content. That would make the most money.
Balance you say ? What's that ?
SHHHH
you dont want to start giving them those ideas now do you? ;)
anyway, to many ppl grinding their lamais.. and some already made it to wz
I got epic targeting problems YAY (you dont get heals?.. get a bigger toon xD)
Bette
05-12-2012, 12:53 AM
The merge of horus and haven has made the imbalance of realms even worse. Now syrtis have 3 times more ppl than other realms now they invade 10 times a day instead of 1. Makes playing stupid after all, who wants to play a game where odds are 3-1.
I loved this game and NGD you have made it such an ugly game now. Not worth playing cause it isn't fun and a game is supposed to be fun.
Makes me sad that I have to find a fun game to play now after 3 years of playing this game.
philip111
05-12-2012, 02:56 AM
The merge of horus and haven has made the imbalance of realms even worse. Now syrtis have 3 times more ppl than other realms now they invade 10 times a day instead of 1. Makes playing stupid after all, who wants to play a game where odds are 3-1.
I loved this game and NGD you have made it such an ugly game now. Not worth playing cause it isn't fun and a game is supposed to be fun.
Makes me sad that I have to find a fun game to play now after 3 years of playing this game.
Bette no ha iniciado sesión Add to Bette's Reputation Report Post Reply With Quote are you from ignis? cause it makes sense if you are, all alsius are use to being invaded so many times each day(horus alsius anyway). but for me, this merge hasnt made it worse, nor better. instead of reds opening portal every night, greens are.
OpperVaagheid
05-12-2012, 08:11 AM
I am totally done with the game too.
Done with the stupid merge.
Done with stupid bans i got for words i always used, but now the server is 13+ instead of 18+ i got bans.
Done with stupid events
Done with stupid GM's
You lost a proud RO player NGD...
I hope you could buy lots of sigars and cognac with the lots of money i spent on you
Orimae
05-12-2012, 08:11 AM
The merge of horus and haven has made the imbalance of realms even worse. Now syrtis have 3 times more ppl than other realms now they invade 10 times a day instead of 1. Makes playing stupid after all, who wants to play a game where odds are 3-1.
I loved this game and NGD you have made it such an ugly game now. Not worth playing cause it isn't fun and a game is supposed to be fun.
Makes me sad that I have to find a fun game to play now after 3 years of playing this game.
Indeed....the imbalance is so much worse....
Not to mention the lag....and the fact that the day before the merge i could run shader 4..now i have to go down to 2 ..so the game is less pretty, less appealing, i know my PC can handle shader 4...or could...but now, lag lag lag lag crash..nah, the fun is well and truly gone, i log in once or twice a week to say hi to my clanmates, i miss you guys :/
Hollow_Ichigo
05-12-2012, 08:33 AM
i log in once or twice a week to say hi to my clanmates, i miss you guys :/
i wanted you to be there for my marksman grad but i didnt know you stopped playing :((
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