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Tigerious
05-12-2012, 11:57 AM
I would be interested to know your opinion about it.
From the shorts PvP I did in arena & warzone I just find it pathetic, it is just Roar & knock down ...
Add to this that the roar range etc is related to the lag between players..
Archonaut
05-12-2012, 12:40 PM
I would be interested to know your opinion about it.
From the shorts PvP I did in arena & warzone I just find it pathetic, it is just Roar & knock down ...
Add to this that the roar range etc is related to the lag between players..
... okay Tiger, let it out. Who killed you this time?
Seriously though, I find warrior pvp's the most fun. As in 1 vs 1, knight vs barb or knight vs knight, barb vs barb is always fun to watch for me. If they're equally geared I mean.
71175
05-12-2012, 12:48 PM
i must agree, that so far pvps when i play my barb or knight are most fun. About roar/kick fest... Agreed with tiger. But it's even more fun to see roar 5 kick 5 sc 5 monkey wasting it on def support lol.
Hayir
05-12-2012, 01:53 PM
i must agree, that so far pvps when i play my barb or knight are most fun. About roar/kick fest... Agreed with tiger. But it's even more fun to see roar 5 kick 5 sc 5 monkey wasting it on def support lol.
But you know def support is not 100% ?
Wield_II
05-12-2012, 02:10 PM
If UM is enabled it's only a matter of DPS.
Boring imo.
Tenel_Ka
05-12-2012, 02:18 PM
I completely agree with Tigerious in this issue.
While I usually prefer PvP between two players of the same class, I don't enjoy Barb v Barb. Every PvP I've had, it's just a competition of making the other guy buff with UM first so I can knock/roar them first. When I fight MS barbs, most of them just freeze up/run away when their MS fails lol. Other fights just end up being a competition of who can hit the hardest (who has the best gear) and who gets the most hits in (who gets the least pos lag).
Winning a barb PvP feels unsatisfying for me, and losing doesn't make me feel like I've been bested. Unrewarding experience either way.
Psynocide
05-12-2012, 02:22 PM
Barbarian versus barbarian PvP matches can be over in matter of seconds, this is just the nature of the class - knight versus knight matches can last up to an hour if resting in PB is allowed.
However, knight versus barbarian is quite interesting to watch.
71175
05-12-2012, 03:29 PM
But you know def support is not 100% ?
Yet more reliable than SotW.
Hollow_Ichigo
05-12-2012, 04:20 PM
barb pvps are boring, kick - fulmi - 2k normal 2k south cross - finished
UmarilsStillHere
05-12-2012, 04:45 PM
Barb on Barb is indeed quite lame, it can be more interesting with some fancy footwork or more interesting setups. But more often than not its a mix of roar + rest and knock + attack.
But really, I think all classes suffer from this when fighting the same class and trying to do pretty much the same thing with the same set of spells.
TheBarbarianAlsius
05-12-2012, 04:56 PM
the PVPS of barbarians now are disgusting, true PVPS were before when the gear did not matter, just the skill, now any noob weapons or dual +90 dragon amulet is sent and kill you at UM
I would like to organize a tournament, but when they are no longer dual imbalance and have to have skill to win one
Take Care
Sorry for me english
The_Krome_Dragon
05-12-2012, 05:22 PM
I like Barb v Barb bec its a nice way to test ur timing of ur spells, tho when one barb has rly superior gear and weap then it can become boring. Also i do like knight v barb more.
Quincebo
05-12-2012, 06:01 PM
Barb vs barb...the one who succesfully landed a ms wins...
VandaMan
05-12-2012, 06:35 PM
Barbarian PvPs are mostly about who is the bigger bitch. Gear and resists aside, it's still not skills that matter; it's only about being the last one to activate UM. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQWCAt23mXQ
Jippy
05-12-2012, 07:01 PM
"it's only about being the last one to activate UM"
The buff and run Technic is one of the lamest yet. I PvP'd a green barb who would run when I buffed UM, after about 5 min of that crap I just ran into the river to end the misery... :bangin:
TheBarbarianAlsius
05-12-2012, 07:05 PM
Barbarian PvPs are mostly about who is the bigger bitch. Gear and resists aside, it's still not skills that matter; it's only about being the last one to activate UM. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQWCAt23mXQ
in that pvp was testing spear had never used in my life and did not have many strategies
Oreo : lets rape barbarian he as no friends here ..
hahaha
Returning to the subject .. in PVPS wins now has better gear (I'm talking about 2 people skilled)
Kitsuni
05-12-2012, 07:16 PM
Its hard for fights to be slow and tactical when its the equivalent of two steam rollers slamming into each other.
Back when I played barb as my main years ago, I always hoped the class would go in a more tactical direction. Well, even back then it was still alot more tactical than now, since Berserk removed all armor, TFB gave +300(or 350?) damage by itself, and UM was 40sec, you could cast UM as first spell and the fight was more about skills like Disble limb, Mind squasher and Brain piercing (when it was 100% on every level). Oh well at least we have Knights for such gameplay now. :p
Also, that was before such skills became "lame" from overuse, when only "supporting" barbs used them and everyone else was just SC monkeys.
Seems like the closer everything gets to NGD's vision, the more boring and predictable it becomes.
Hollow_Ichigo
05-16-2012, 08:58 PM
maybe barbs pvping without the use of damage buffs would be more fun and last longer too
Cannas
05-17-2012, 02:18 AM
Isn´t NGD fault but pussy form how some players fight as some noobs archers and mages playing all time hugging tress and rocks
Klutu
05-17-2012, 02:57 AM
Barbarian PvPs are mostly about who is the bigger bitch. Gear and resists aside, it's still not skills that matter; it's only about being the last one to activate UM. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQWCAt23mXQ
Putting background music was definitely needed in this.. Most pathetic thing I've ever watched on Youtube..
Sinthala
05-17-2012, 03:38 AM
Barbarian PvPs are mostly about who is the bigger bitch. Gear and resists aside, it's still not skills that matter; it's only about being the last one to activate UM. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQWCAt23mXQ
That was painful to watch... just lost 5 minutes of life...
I would be interested to know your opinion about it.
From the shorts PvP I did in arena & warzone I just find it pathetic, it is just Roar & knock down ...
Add to this that the roar range etc is related to the lag between players..
There never was a fun between barb vs barb PvP,knight vs knight yes and are fun.
Barb vs barb means dmg vs dmg and knock vs knock ,nothing more,oh ya maybe sometimes if MS works.
In fact barb vs any other class means the same think dmg ,knock and ms.
PvP means just premium (to buy uber gears to do dmg and get wm resists on your armor),or go ahead with RNG ..pray to resist.
Pvp is just random think after version 1.0.8 when tons of spells and resists went to random.
Pvp in regnum does not prove that your are good anymore,just prove how lucky or how much money you spent in game that all.If you are lucky and spent tons of cash you have god_mod_on.
UmarilsStillHere
05-17-2012, 08:32 PM
Since the "removal" of free level 1 spells and changing half a dozen others so they're worthless below level 5... then adding a ton more power points its obvious that 90% of level 60 players are in cookie-cutter setups now.
Psynocide
05-17-2012, 10:10 PM
you have to be a little more inteligent than your oponent to win,
There really isn't a lot of intelligence required, nor involved - matches are over so quickly that there really isn't much room for variables born of intelligent play styles, it's just the nature of the class.
However I do agree that anything goes, it's rather annoying when others play at false chivalry; it's unreasonable to assume others needs must play to specific esoteric rules set down by certain players as what they deem appropriate to use.
Klutu
05-18-2012, 12:49 AM
Compared to how it use to be, Everythings pretty much down to luck and who has better gear
Or it ends up being what Vans video showed to barbs to paranoid to attack one other.. lol
TheMessenger
05-18-2012, 04:19 AM
In fairness to chumpy and barbarian
barbarian is a bitch when he pvps
Tree Humping 4 Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR1IqHT9WmQ)
RooooFio
05-18-2012, 09:52 AM
/me votes for the pre 1.0 patchtes! :dumbofme:
those days were good for pvps.
didnt had any pvps for the last year, but i can imagine how much fun i would have! =/
UmarilsStillHere
05-18-2012, 09:56 AM
Compared to how it use to be, Everythings pretty much down to luck and who has better gear
Indeed, I wouldn't have spent so much time PVPing you back in the day if things were as they are now :p
Or it ends up being what Vans video showed to barbs to paranoid to attack one other.. lol
A sad sight ...
I ran into a higher level barb at SH the other day, and yes I enjoyed that fight, partly because it was close, partly because it had been a long-ass time since I've had to fight someone off when grinding. But I won't pretend that the fight wasn't mostly determined with either one of us on our backs or them running around waiting on cooldowns. Though they did try to ROTE me as I gave chase, the spell landed too short to hit but it was a decent attempt.
The high risk-high reward gameplay can get the blood pumping, but its anything but "intelligent"
There is inteligence involved and pvps with "skilled" players arent soo basicaly like everybody thinks.
Maybe you wont understand that because you are not barb or you are new idk, but you will see that if you play pvps with good players, they will always win you just because they think more than you
I love how can lie yourself :D
Is just luck and dmg/resist ....nothing intelligent in a random generator or uber gear.
Skilled ? =)))))
All classes and barbs are clones setup.Because of tons of power points you are able to chose almost all spells,you are not forced like in old gameplay to chose between resists and dmg.
Agree that gameplay evoluete a lots,but not in skills style,just in massive numbers of skills and items,but not in logical state.
TheBarbarianAlsius
05-18-2012, 06:10 PM
I love how can lie yourself :D
Is just luck and dmg/resist ....nothing intelligent in a random generator or uber gear.
Skilled ? =)))))
All classes and barbs are clones setup.Because of tons of power points you are able to chose almost all spells,you are not forced like in old gameplay to chose between resists and dmg.
Agree that gameplay evoluete a lots,but not in skills style,just in massive numbers of skills and items,but not in logical state.
you are right .. this guy is a liar .. hahahaha
skill to use a barbarian these days? jajajajaja
any stupid can be sent to UM press Fulminante and kill someone.
also care more than the skill to gear this imbalance
errei
05-26-2012, 12:02 AM
Isn´t NGD fault but pussy form how some players fight as some noobs archers and mages playing all time hugging tress and rocks
rocks and trees are not there to make the game worse...
if some1 killed you because he used the tree/rock the noob wasn't him...
regards
Knight vs barb ftw... Best fight it can ever be and +1 for errei. Trees are made for this reason so if the attacked dies by the treehuger he is noob :D
71175
05-26-2012, 08:36 AM
Knight vs barb? interesting? Rofl.
_Seinvan
05-26-2012, 04:27 PM
Knight vs barb ftw... Best fight it can ever be and +1 for errei. Trees are made for this reason so if the attacked dies by the treehuger he is noob :D
Most barbs will only ever come near a knight in pvp if UM is off cooldown, and fore good reason. This just leads to barbs running circles around a knight until one of them runs out of mana. Borin' xD
Aries202
05-27-2012, 01:35 AM
Most barbs will only ever come near a knight in pvp if UM is off cooldown, and fore good reason. This just leads to barbs running circles around a knight until one of them runs out of mana. Borin' xD
What the lady said, but 9 times out of 10 a knight should win. Of course considering both players are 60. The only factor that can benefit the barb is, MS. Get a MS to land on a knight, and he's pretty much dead if you can drop him after the MS.
Cannas
05-27-2012, 04:10 AM
rocks and trees are not there to make the game worse...
if some1 killed you because he used the tree/rock the noob wasn't him...
regards
Lol noob, if you kill me its cos you came camoed to help goats when i fighth against blues and after u kissing them :)
zukinha ainda és muito pekenino :)
UmarilsStillHere
05-27-2012, 04:39 PM
Lol noob, if you kill me its cos you came camoed to help goats when i fighth against blues and after u kissing them :)
zukinha ainda és muito pekenino :)
I like that half the people on this forum are arrogant enough to think that the only time they die is when the odds are stacked heavily against them. Seriously? Why all the excuses? Its a war game, getting killed it part of that, it doesn't make you a bad player ...
Kyrottimus
05-27-2012, 06:38 PM
I've hated PvP's for years simply due to the sheer number of random variables (both engineered and non; evade/resists vs. lag and positioning issues).
Randomness isn't too terrible in war as war is basically chaos with a bunch of things happening at once.
Duals/PvPs on the other hand, the gameplay mechanics don't lend themselves to much in the way of dynamic one-on-ones.
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