About Instancing

[AariEv]

I was going to post this in the roadmap thread, but it was locked before I had the chance to. Anyway, my concerns mainly revolve around the following comment made by Chilko.

Nope, we are going to use instances for PVP/RVR mostly

Here are just some thoughts and suggestions relating to instances as a whole. I realize that there is a lot of speculation in this post, but eh...

Understanding that instances are planned for much later in the year, the mechanics behind them may or may not have been established yet. However, I'm concerned that RvR instances can severely decrease the activity of a server if they're added without taking server population into account.

Ra is apparently full and for that reason, RvR instancing will probably be beneficial for that specific server. When considering the population of Haven or Valhalla, for example, adding more room to the warzone may have an undesirable effect (less war).

Perhaps you've thought about this already NGD, and perhaps your idea of instancing won't affect server activity whatsoever. In any case, here are just some thoughts...

1) Maybe consider allowing global notification for activity across all instances? What I mean is if, for example, there are 3 instances and a fort is taken in the first instance, display a global notification in all instances as opposed to just the one where the fort was taken?

2) Maybe incorporate instancing into the global invasion system? My reasoning behind this is player motivation to war as well as realm and server activity as a whole.

Perhaps this thread is completely irrelevant as none of us know exactly how instancing will be incorporated into the game. Furthermore, maybe I'm wrong with everything I've mentioned, but I feel it's worth noting

[Truewar]

Perhaps this thread is completely irrelevant as none of us know exactly how insg wll be incorporated into the game. Furthermore, maybe I'm wrong with everything I've mentioned, but I feel it's worth noting

So why post if you do not sure?

P.S. The reason of hor... Haven population problems ie player's relationship. One of the reasons of last one is mass isteria?

[AariEv]

So why post if you do not sure?

If you go back and read the text I posted, you'd know that I posted this because "...I'm concerned that RvR instances can severely decrease the activity of a server if they're added without taking server population into account". I don't pretend to have a perfect perspective of the game, so I always admit that I may be wrong with any suggestions or comments i make.

P.S. The reason of hor... Haven population problems ie player's relationship. One of the reasons of last one is mass isteria?

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything? Population isn't what I'm concerned about primarily; server activity is what I'm thinking of. For example, remember when we had capturable saves in Horus? At first, there were a decent amount of people on the server, but because of that save system, war and overall activity was much slower. Then, because of the new type of gameplay, population decreased. I'm sure it didn't hurt a server like Ra as much as it did Horus.

Depending on the way instancing is introduced, it's possible to have this effect again (less activity because of instancing.... which may then lead to a lower population in the long term), which is my only reason for typing this.

[Truewar]

Chilko didn't said anything spicific. You don't have any reasons to worry.
Relax and play!

[ieti]

I think instancing will help them to separate the load. For example one instance for every fort or different instances for inner or WZ. Maybe this in future can lead to multiple connected instances to get up with the massive load on bigger population servers.

[Archonaut]

Chilko didn't said anything spicific. You don't have any reasons to worry.
Relax and play!

I don't really see why you had to post this. He's just expressing his opinion towards instancing and giving some suggestions.

[Shwish]

I too share the same concerns as the OP but its a bit too early the speculate.

The fact of the matter is that RvR instances will definately decrease warzone activity if its implemented in the way it is on other games with this feature. On the other hand it will be amazing for the popularity of the game as a whole which in turn will increase NGD's revenue (which is a good thing).

Its up to NGD to bridge the gap between open field war and battleground instances. I'm sure they have something good up their sleeves. If they manage to pull to it off, it could change the way pvp based mmorpg's work.

[Raindance]

I don't really see why you had to post this. He's just expressing his opinion towards instancing and giving some suggestions.

Because lately all this forum can do is complain and feel constantly unsatisfied with NGD's work. Then when they announce an upcoming update the hypocrites come out of their caves and start thanking NGD all of a sudden.

I stand by what Truvor wrote. Relax and wait for the finals people. NGD does tend to disappoint, but how can anyone keep looking at the bad side of things? Just stop playing and stop coming back to this forum/game every ~6 months and just finally leave, geez.

Oh btw, I think that "he" is a "she", but who really knows.

[Henkiespenkiesjanhai]

Would have really liked it if we had pve instances to get faster leveling cuz its a pain now

[mute]

Maybe NGD will add a limit for entering an instance. Maybe every 2 hours...

Also it could be possible that you can fight against player from other servers in an instance. In WoW you always go in an instance (PvE or PvP) with players from other servers and it makes fun...

[Archonaut]

Because lately all this forum can do is complain and feel constantly unsatisfied with NGD's work. Then when they announce an upcoming update the hypocrites come out of their caves and start thanking NGD all of a sudden.



Have you ever played any other MMORPG ? Seriously, MMORPG forums are places where people who think they're better than players that don't use the forum come and complain. There are some people in there who create nice threads, thank the publisher of the game once in a while but it's usually just complaining. You should stop thinking RO is the only game full of complainers, just because of our small player base doesn't mean all of the players complain and keep talking negative or that it is only this game..

[Raindance]

Have you ever played any other MMORPG ? Seriously, MMORPG forums are places where people who think they're better than players that don't use the forum come and complain. There are some people in there who create nice threads, thank the publisher of the game once in a while but it's usually just complaining. You should stop thinking RO is the only game full of complainers, just because of our small player base doesn't mean all of the players complain and keep talking negative or that it is only this game..

I don't care for other games or other forums and that's not my point. Point is this place used to be a lot funner and certainly didn't have bimbos like you in it. Now I'm just derailing this thread.

[bois]

Indeed too early for concern. I can't find the thread but NGD did hint at what they were thinking of .

They suggested instanced sets like bridge war or structure capture type. There was a hint that this may be applied for lower levels to get a taste of nice RvR. If this is the case, that will not impact high level war in the persistent world.

Also one of the devs (can't remember which) said that they will design instances so that it can be adjusted and shaped to each particular server needs. They did mention that instances can be easily modified or switched off. That was the design they were going for.

I can't remember them mentioning anything else.

In my opinion (random speculation here) I think that inner big bosses could work well with an instancing system. But that part is PvE.

[tarashunter]

There is rarely something to do in game...ppls often stay afk or camp their fort.

I'd say welcome to istance if they allow me to do something when i log in,and to see some alsius or ignis not only in grind spot.

Oh,and btw,close the main thread was not a nice move...i wanted to ask or discuss with comunity some other aspect,now to do it must we open a new thread every time?bah..

[Archonaut]

Point is this place used to be a lot funner and certainly didn't have bimbos like you in it.

Hmm, bimbos like me, been playing for 3 years now so 'used to' has to be around 4 years ago. I was just explaining that this is certainly not the only forum which deals with people who whine. I guess you would be closer to that than me but you're right de-railing the thread and wasting time on someone like you.