View Full Version : Good bye!!!
smeagle_errei
09-23-2012, 09:27 PM
After 1 year playing RO on Haven im leaving the server cuzz theres a overpopulated realm who controls everything, every invasion, every fort.
And u guys know what realm is that.
So i'm moving to piranha maybe there the balance is fair.
Tyvm ignis ppl for the fun.
This is bocinha saying bye bye:confused2:
blood-raven
09-23-2012, 09:40 PM
After 1 year playing RO on Haven im leaving the server cuzz theres a overpopulated realm who controls everything, every invasion, every fort.
And u guys know what realm is that.
So i'm moving to piranha maybe there the balance is fair.
Tyvm ignis ppl for the fun.
This is bocinha saying bye bye:confused2:
you mean alsius? ikr
cya, have fun on rl
Evangeline
09-23-2012, 10:04 PM
leaving will make things worse :p just saying :)
Raghn
09-23-2012, 10:23 PM
After 1 year playing RO on Haven im leaving the server cuzz theres a overpopulated realm who controls everything, every invasion, every fort.
And u guys know what realm is that.
So i'm moving to piranha maybe there the balance is fair.
Tyvm ignis ppl for the fun.
This is bocinha saying bye bye:confused2:
Weird, when ignis on horus was overpopulated was fun? lol
Ulti19
09-23-2012, 10:31 PM
Every realm is over populated at one point or another and each realm cries accordingly:p. It's been like this since the beginning. Anyways, have fun wherever you go!
uncreative
09-23-2012, 11:31 PM
ignis before merge was worst , now you will play in piranha where ignis invade all night when no1 online....
Evangeline
09-23-2012, 11:48 PM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/201/508/221435NothingtodoHereGifMadethiscuzIwas2479d828227 23.gif?1321553488
errei
09-24-2012, 12:09 AM
Who wanna bet he wont leave?
Ignis was never overpopulated at any time. What we did have at times was a population that could be competitive , even against the odds. Usually " Over populated Ignis" meant when players logged in at odd hours in order to gain tactical advantage when the other 2 realms went to sleep . Even then, half the time we got owned anyway.
In that way, 15 Igneans seemed like a massive abusive horde that invaded and opened the portal all the time.
Also, back in the day, there was this elusive thing call tactics plus crazy spells like Sultar that could equalise anything if done in chain and with enough.
Even from back in the days before invasions, Ignis has been up against it. That is how the night crew was born in the first place. It was a retaliation after getting the bejezus farmed out of us (for) hours earlier.
Nowadays, It is a numbers game more than it has ever been since I have been playing. With that said, there are tactics that can be used to disrupt large armies. From the standpoint of a tactical collaborative approach to war, Ignis has become quite inept. It used to be the one thing we were good at.
Boci, sad to see you go, you were quite entertaining player. Hopefully you come back sometime. If not, best of luck in your future endeavours.
Regards
Artec.
smeagle_errei
09-24-2012, 01:06 AM
ill play alsius
and yes
ill leave
Destroyyer97
09-24-2012, 02:49 AM
ill play alsius
and yes
ill leave
In ra syrtis is overpopulated too, i think its because they all want to be the LOTR elves ol.
Ignis FTW
JainFarstrider
09-24-2012, 05:25 AM
In ra syrtis is overpopulated too, i think its because they all want to be the LOTR elves ol.
Ignis FTW
I'm surprised that people aren't flooding to Alsius because of dwarves if you think they like LOTR. IMO people just join Syrtis because they think it's the 'good guy' side.
VeterKh
09-24-2012, 07:24 AM
Boci, I would not say so. if the balance will be corrected in the future - you're back? back. Take a break, a break even in 2 years maybe ... Just watch, watch as I do.
Awrath
09-24-2012, 07:40 AM
All the best Boci. One less red to take on the sea of green :(.
Shwish
09-24-2012, 08:22 AM
I'm surprised that people aren't flooding to Alsius because of dwarves if you think they like LOTR. IMO people just join Syrtis because they think it's the 'good guy' side.
Actually LOTR made the characters of Legolas out to be this super awesome killing machine and Gimli look like a bumbling idiot. Naturally people would be more inclined to playing the role of an Elf over a dwarf.
To the OP:
You're leaving Haven to join another server because you can't stand losing? All realms have their ups and downs and if you can't handle the downs then sadly this style of game is not suited for you. Moving to another server might temporarily make you happy but when the power shift moves and you're back to being on the losing realm... then what? jump to another server that's winning?
If "winning" is your top priority, there are plenty of mmorpg's out there that do not have a faction/realm system that would suit you better. I would personally suggestion Runes of Magic.
Quincebo
09-24-2012, 08:32 AM
Syrtis have always been the stronger realm, just what bois said...they logged on at 2am and pew pew'd our guards and doors and took gems.
Then they went to sleep :D
Now, syrtis invades whenever we want, and we do it too often.
Doing so makes things get worse, more warmasters and longer exp bonusses.
How bad could it be when we had 4 people with draconic gem??
Anyway, good luck and piranha
As has brought to my attention by a PM , I would say that there is an imbalance and not necessarily overpopulation.
What is the server cap, 1200 ? After so many years, shouldn't we be close or hitting that regularly ? If not then the server is generally underpopulated. In other words, Syrtis comes closest to what a normal population should be like with a fully subscribed server.
As I wrote many times before, the game design was meant for a certain base population of each realm to be always on. NGD never managed to hit that critical minimum mass 24 hours per day. Because populations flux below this minimum level often, basic gameplay mechanics become fragile.
With the positive feedback loops that Beacons and Warmasters expansion provides to superior numbers, having even 5 more of the right classes than your opponent produces exponential results.
This is why I wait with much interest to the way NGD seeks to grapple with the WM powers and Invasion mechanisms. (this is supposedly what is next on the roadmap and being worked on.)
Regards
Kitsuni
09-24-2012, 01:33 PM
The problem Bois, is even if one realm has "just" 15 players online, if the other realms have "just" 5 players online...
That's an outnumbering ratio of 3:1. Even 2:1 is considered fairly extreme.
With current game mechanics, the difference between 10 players and 15 palyers can be catastrophic, once they start chugging beacons. Moreover, even if both groups are completely even, the group with more higher levels (mostly premium scrollers), better gear (premium boxers), and Warmasters will win more often, regardless of how good you play or what tactics you use. It has some effect, but not as much as one would hope for.
There can be no balance as long as Offensive beacon exists, because no "tactics" work. The whole lifehood that Alsius survived on from 2007-2009 was rendered compeletely meaningless by the introduction of level 60 (tons on HP, armor, mana, and power points) and Warmaster powers.
All other underpopulated realms, or those caught outside their peak activity, suffer the same problems.
The problem Bois, is even if one realm has "just" 15 players online, if the other realms have "just" 5 players online...
That's an outnumbering ratio of 3:1. Even 2:1 is considered fairly extreme.
With current game mechanics, the difference between 10 players and 15 palyers can be catastrophic, once they start chugging beacons.
There can be no balance as long as Offensive beacon exists, because no "tactics" work. The whole lifehood that Alsius survived on from 2007-2009 was rendered compeletely meaningless by the introduction of level 60 (tons on HP, armor, mana, and power points) and Warmaster powers.
All other underpopulated realms, or those caught outside their peak activity, suffer the same problems.
Yes, as I mentioned 1 post above you, I agree that there are imbalances but not overpopulation. What we have is chronic under-population. I think I covered the rest of your points with my previous post and agree with you.
I think I always have, regarding WM expansion. As you notice , I strike at those points regularly ever since WM hit the production servers. Warmaster Expansion caused a runaway positive feedback loop for the greater populated army and thus exaggerated a negative feedback loop for the lesser army. There is no diminishing returns at all.
erttzzadfk
09-24-2012, 01:42 PM
We've got many multirealmers..use them to get a better realmbalance.
http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1643158&postcount=44
JainFarstrider
09-24-2012, 01:52 PM
We've got many multirealmers..use them to get a better realmbalance.
http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1643158&postcount=44
Advertising ftw
time-to-die
09-24-2012, 03:04 PM
As has brought to my attention by a PM , I would say that there is an imbalance and not necessarily overpopulation.
What is the server cap, 1200 ? After so many years, shouldn't we be close or hitting that regularly ? If not then the server is generally underpopulated. In other words, Syrtis comes closest to what a normal population should be like with a fully subscribed server.
As I wrote many times before, the game design was meant for a certain base population of each realm to be always on. NGD never managed to hit that critical minimum mass 24 hours per day. Because populations flux below this minimum level often, basic gameplay mechanics become fragile.
With the positive feedback loops that Beacons and Warmasters expansion provides to superior numbers, having even 5 more of the right classes than your opponent produces exponential results.
This is why I wait with much interest to the way NGD seeks to grapple with the WM powers and Invasion mechanisms. (this is supposedly what is next on the roadmap and being worked on.)
Regards
I agree with you! +1:thumb:
Thrillem
09-24-2012, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=BadGluteos;1642887]After 1 year playing RO on Haven im leaving the server cuzz theres a overpopulated realm who controls everything, every invasion, every fort.
And u guys know what realm is that.
So i'm moving to piranha maybe there the balance is fair.QUOTE]
Lol, an ignis talking about balance. People forget fast. Not so long ago Ignis was invading Alsius and Syrtis every single night (European time). Lots of people like you couldn't stand it and made characters in Ignis to be on the "winning side". In Haven there is no overpopulation like there was not in Horus. Overpopulation is here the wrong word. Syrtis is MORE populated due to the green surroundings. Alsius used to be the LESS populated realm. Now that Syrtis has more players at night the r. abandon the ship leaving Ignis empty. If someone is causing an unbalance is people like you leaving your realm.
I remember Syrtians and Alsius complaining about realm unbalance due to the Ignis night invasions and the sarcastic comments of the iggies. Well now you know what it is.:hat:
smeagle_errei
09-24-2012, 04:05 PM
Lol, an ignis talking about balance. People forget fast. Not so long ago Ignis was invading Alsius and Syrtis every single night (European time). Lots of people like you couldn't stand it and made characters in Ignis to be on the "winning side". In Haven there is no overpopulation like there was not in Horus. Overpopulation is here the wrong word. Syrtis is MORE populated due to the green surroundings. Alsius used to be the LESS populated realm. Now that Syrtis has more players at night the r. abandon the ship leaving Ignis empty. If someone is causing an unbalance is people like you leaving your realm.
I remember Syrtians and Alsius complaining about realm unbalance due to the Ignis night invasions and the sarcastic comments of the iggies. Well now you know what it is.:hat:[/QUOTE]
ignis overpopulated?? thats what u mean??
lol
ignis just had more ppl-or same number-at night as u said
but the rest of the day syrtis rule
now everyday and everynight syrtis have much more ppl
PS>all my items r property of errei now. talk to him if u need something =)
uncreative
09-24-2012, 10:49 PM
good luck bostinha =)
erttzzadfk
09-24-2012, 11:11 PM
lol, someone is talking about balance in the forum..people forget fast too how it feels to be in the underpopulated realm...
The problem is the players of the overpopulated realm will always be more in this forum too.
And most of them think:"Jap you're right. Let's change something...but wait a moment, cause atm it's my realms turn".
We could make thoundsands of threads or polls in here - the situation will always be the same..again and again.
So the decision is up to NGD to change something.
@NGD: Please think about using the multirealmaccounts to get a better realmbalance and don't wait for the players to stop being opportunistic in a game - that's just utopistic. (Have a look to the realms histories to be sure i'm right or not).
Kitsuni
09-25-2012, 12:07 AM
Well lets face it the game and the forums have been destroyed not just by NGD but also ourselves.
All anyone cares about for the last few years is how to troll and damage each others' reputation and ruin their fun. And it won't be any different now.
Sacrificing everything for a quick one-sided laugh or thrill. That's what Regnum has been since 2010.
vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.