Unsupported Video Card

[Chomp]

Hi there. I've decided to give this game a try but am having a problem. When I launch Regnum I get the following:

X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
Major opcode: 145
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
Major opcode: 145
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device

and am told that my video card is unsupported. Other 3D games work fine on my system. I'm rather new to GNU/Linux and am not sure what to make of this. I'm on Kubuntu 7.04 and have a Intel Q965GF mobo and am using the onboard chipset(i810 driver) for graphics. Any help would be appreciated.

[DuoMaxwell]

solution? perhaps a cheap nvidia card, even a 7300GT will be about 6x faster then the intel chip and give you full OpenGL2.0 compliance in hardware, the cards in the 8000 series will with next year's update to OpenGL3.0 will have feature parity with directx 10, and cards like the 8600GT can be had for around $110 on sale, which is faster then the sub $100 8500GT.

Intergrated graphics chipsets are never good for gaming, ever try putting Doom 3 on a mobo with nvidia 6150 graphics built in? Totaly unplayable at minimum possible settings, you'll be lucky to get 20fps, with nothing going on, with drops into the single digits once you start fighting. For smooth gaming yo want to be able to hold 30fps in game. A decent card like a 7600GT or beter should let you max out most linux games, hell, you should be able to run regnum at max everything at your monitors top resolution with a little overhead for some antiasailing and ansiostropic filtering. Read the wiki on what those do for image quality.

Really every non work only computer out there needs a dedicated gpu, it really sucks that the matx standard doesn't have and enthusiest grade mobos right now, the only recent one I rememer was a biostar board for socket 939 that had an NForce 4 SLi chipset.

[Chomp]

Thanks for the reply DuoMaxwell. I was afraid the answer would be something like this. I'm not much of a gamer, but when I find something I like I will play for a long time. Looks like I will have to wait for a bit to try this game out. My first priority is more RAM, then a new video card. Cheers.

[firefly1980]

I got an extra message with this error

"there are three possible causes for this error:

1. your video card is too old
2. you haven't installed the latest available drivers
3. you haven't installed the latest directx version"

nr. 3...not really

nr. 2? well it's worth a try...new drivers don't cost you anything
wait for an ubuntu-update of the mesa-drivers or get the sources and compile them yourself

nr. 1? only if the dev-team tells me, that my gpu is really not supported. I don't buy a new gpu just because it could be the reason

[Chomp]

I got that message too. I'm assuming it simply isn't supported. It could be the drivers need to be updated, but I am not willing to get the latest sources and compile them myself. Like I said in my first post, other 3D games work fine(like Nexuiz). Beryl works fine. This game just doesn't appear to like my IGC.

[magnet]

Just look at the game requirements: an Nvidia or an ATI card; that's all folks.

[Chomp]

Guess I should have checked the website more thoroughly. Turns out my onboard chipset is still in an experimental stage and may or may not work. In my case, no worky. Thanks everyone for your comments.

[DuoMaxwell]

Yeah, the intel GMA series cards can do some 3d stuff with the drivers, and the drivers for them are all f/oss, if only ati and nvidia would follow intel's lead on that... But things may change as intel has stated that they'd like to get back into making videocards again, real ones like they used to before they got sued for monopilization, which now it won't matter cause AMD bought ATI and even tho noone cares VIA still uses S3 graphics cards in their stuff.

I'm still waiting for nvidia to start making their own CPUs lol, won't that be an interesting battle. They're great at doing graphics cards and mobo chipsets, tho their raid stuff needs work it's 2/3rds of the hard stff right there, not much of a stretch for them to start making CPUs as well with what they know.

[Myxir]

Yeah, the intel GMA series cards can do some 3d stuff with the drivers, and the drivers for them are all f/oss, if only ati and nvidia would follow intel's lead on that... But things may change as intel has stated that they'd like to get back into making videocards again, real ones like they used to before they got sued for monopilization, which now it won't matter cause AMD bought ATI and even tho noone cares VIA still uses S3 graphics cards in their stuff

In my opinion intel will never be able to mess up with ati/nvidia.

[trash]

Onboard graphics don't really cut it, especially since most don't even *actually* have any memory - they just quote an amount they borrow from the system memory..

Just get a nice second hand Nvidia or something.

I still have a 5200 and it runs pretty as a picture..


Trix

(Ignis Marksman)

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[DuoMaxwell]

why waste time one on used card that may not work when a 7300GT will beat that 5200 quite throughly for $55? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130026 You get all the hardware features of the newer card as well, the only thing to be careful of with such low end cards is turbo cache, which have part of the quoted memory as real onboard graphics ram withthe rest being ram borrowed from the system, something you're trying to avoid. Some are so bad they only have 64-128Mb of actual graphics memory on card the rest being as much as 512 mb quoted, all of that form your system's ram, slowing everything down nearly as bad as an intergrated GPU. for the low end look at the 7300GT and higher ranged cards in the 7x00 series or for more future proofing for future OpenGL 3.0 support next year then get something from the 8x00 range starting at the 8500GT and going up from there.

A good balance of features, price, preformance and extras for a mid to low high end card for resolutions not exceeding 1280x1024 would be this 8600GTS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284

A little more on the exspensive side yes, but the benches say that even tho it's got a bottle neck with its 128 bit memory bus that it's a good competitor to the next step up, the 8800GTS 320Mb edition, which while more exspensive and is capable of handleing things better at resolutions up to 1600x1200 lacks the support for nvidia's pure video HD, which while only currently supported by vista theres alays a chance that someone will getit working on linux. What it does is offloads all video procesing to the graphics card, so all mpeg videos, no matter what resolution are handled by the gpu while your CPU is freed up to do other things. Keeping CPU utilization capped down to around 14% while playing a video thats in h.264 codec at 1920x1080@60FPS, something the CPU usually has to do most of the processing for.

Also don't wory about covering up that PCIe 1x slot with a dual slot GPU cooler, almost nothing uses it, you can add the odd part here or there but it's pretty much useless.

Check here for some cpmparasins

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2006.html thats the old 2k6 charts, this is the 2k7 charts http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html The Doom 3 is a native linux game, you can bench it yourself with the demo and see what you get compared to the 7300GT, the 8600GTS was released after the charts where made so look between the stats of the 8800GTS 320 and the stats pulled by the 7900GT. Also games like Half Life are supported under cedega so those benches may be meaningful to you as well.

Yes, the mid and low end 8x00 series cards sucked with the early drivers, but benches I've seen with current drivers shows that no, the 8600GTS isn't something between the old 7600GT and the 7900GS, that it smokes them both in a head to head comparasin with current drivers.

[WesMatte]

I tried to run a integrated Geforce 6150(takes 64mb of my ram, Nvidia9755 driver) with 2,2ghz AMD64 cpu, 1gigs of ddr-ram(dual channel). This system runs WoW(that other popular MMORPG :naughty:) very well! 30fps+ at least(in Ubuntu Linux+Wine).. Then i installed Regnum on the same system(still in Ubuntu Linux) and did not get as good performance. I had to reduce everything to to low or off to get it playable(18-23 outside town, around 8-13 fps inside towns dependning what's on or off in options).. I tought Regnum was a hardware "friendly" game that didn't demanded newest hardware to get good performance..

[DuoMaxwell]

Yes, it seems that they still have allot of work ahead of them in optimizing the graphics system, NGD unlike Blizzard doesn't have a few hundred million to toss around to test on every videocard and build optimizations for each core model.