Coming up!

[Frosk]

Hi everyone!

We're glad to let you know that we find ourselves working on the upcoming update, which includes a large amount of changes of all kind.

Just so you can check out some of these changes, here are some screenshots showing the ones related to map edition:

http://imageshack.us/a/img442/2516/screen00f.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/screen00f.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img221/6784/screen01p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/screen01p.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/4028/screen02fb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/screen02fb.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img267/7113/screen03mw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/screen03mw.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/9481/screen04j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/screen04j.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/9553/screen05v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/screen05v.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/5342/screen06x.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/screen06x.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/525/screen07d.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/screen07d.jpg/)

[Frosk]

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/2043/screen08z.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/screen08z.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/6221/screen09l.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/screen09l.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/5639/screen10xz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/screen10xz.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/9518/screen11xuq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/screen11xuq.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1407/screen12b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/screen12b.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img152/5046/screen13af.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/152/screen13af.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img26/648/screen14i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/screen14i.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/7927/screen15g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/screen15g.jpg/)

[Frosk]

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/5649/screen16u.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/screen16u.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/4363/screen17i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/screen17i.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img526/9067/screen18h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/screen18h.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img809/4102/screen19p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/screen19p.jpg/)

[Tigerious]

Looks great, Syrtis will be the surprise ? :)

[Raindance]

How about some balance? Or is that top secret for now? I understand a large update means all sorts of goodies, so looking forward to this (finally). The mine (VZ?) looks really awesome too.

[ice_zero_cool]

i like :) although i hope that theres going to be anything related to balance (be it class balance or realm balance, i dont care) too

[uncreative]

nice , but WHEREs the balance? mag weapons? boss items?

[JainFarstrider]

I can't see any of the pics :crying1:

[Wield_II]

Nice, having a better cs will solve realm balance.

[Rising_Cold]

i love these looks, they look awesome

BUT

its rlly not the kind of thing i would want to see 'updated' first :(
making the game look awesome isnt magically gonna get new players

soo.. hopes up for the not shown updates? ;)

[LucianDeathshield]

i love these looks, they look awesome

BUT

its rlly not the kind of thing i would want to see 'updated' first :(
making the game look awesome isnt magically gonna get new players

soo.. hopes up for the not shown updates? ;)


Well in the post it said this is the 'map edition' of the next update, so I'm assuming that this isn't the only thing in the next update

[Rising_Cold]

Well in the post it said this is the 'map edition' of the next update, so I'm assuming that this isn't the only thing in the next update

I hope ur right ice, btw u should play more in ur night i dont see u anymore :(

and ive decided im not gonna scout inner after an invasion..
see those trees/mountains
equals, impossibility to track xD

still looks awesome tho :p

[Shwish]

and ive decided im not gonna scout inner after an invasion..
see those trees/mountains
equals, impossibility to track xD


Denying your enemies that 10k WMC is the best part of being a hunter.

On topic:
The environmental updates look awesome. Alot of people don't understand how much of an impact these cosmetic updates have on the rate at which NGD receives new players. Keep it up guys.

P.S: Throw in some balance updates so all these people can stop whining about it.

[LucianDeathshield]

I hope ur right ice, btw u should play more in ur night i dont see u anymore :(

and ive decided im not gonna scout inner after an invasion..
see those trees/mountains
equals, impossibility to track xD

still looks awesome tho :p

Playing other games at the moment, i might pop in at some point during the week :), i'm interested to see the new updates ngd are doing this year though.

[erttzzadfk]

i love these looks, they look awesome

BUT

its rlly not the kind of thing i would want to see 'updated' first :(
making the game look awesome isnt magically gonna get new players

soo.. hopes up for the not shown updates? ;)
Was thinking the same..

[gluffs]

Hi everyone!
We're glad to let you know that we find ourselves working on the upcoming update, which includes a large amount of changes of all kind.


I really hope that the "large amount of changes" include the WM update or
similar. Eye candy in all its glory, but we have gotten new engine, clothes,
dances, races etc but no real changes to balance and similar.

I personally dont really care about graphics and eye candy, what i want is good
gameplay so perhaps give us a hint off the other updates?

[bois]

I am glad they considered my suggestion of a water feature at Ignis CS. With any luck Donato, a few more of my ideas among great ones from others (substantial ones) may hit the testing server sometime. I still stand by the 18 month gestation period. Some of the best older ideas are close to that time-line now.

What saddens me is that NGD seems to have this concept that eye candy is the most important thing (in the short term). In my humble opinion, you can get away with poor graphics and great game mechanics/content but you can't get away with poor content and weak gameplay for long no matter what else you have.

If it were me, I would have kept this part of the update as the secret. It only infuriates players who are hungry, no starving for some content and some very serious work into something that is not eye candy. The update may have it but maybe the less said till it hits Amun , the better.

Out of ideas Xaltheim? My goodness, they could pretend that all the ideas in the suggestion box were actually theirs and deploy them. I doubt the community would mind. The suggestion box has enough ideas to completely fill out this game and then some.

[Zas_]

What saddens me is that NGD seems to have this concept that eye candy is the most important thing (in the short term). In my humble opinion, you can get away with poor graphics and great game mechanics/content but you can't get away with poor content and weak gameplay for long no matter what else you have.


Yes. RO will not survive with beautiful graphics and so many gameplay issues.
Also better graphics means better hardware to run the game, so less players.


If it were me, I would have kept this part of the update as the secret. It only infuriates players who are hungry, no starving for some content and some very serious work into something that is not eye candy. The update may have it but maybe the less said till it hits Amun , the better.


Exactly.
People are waiting things like "Magnas trading", "Balance update", "Bug Fix", and you serve them "Beautiful Graveyard" ....
I know different teams are working on gameplay and graphics, but then what is doing the gameplay team atm ??
NGD, check your roadmap, and see how you are already late ...


Out of ideas Xaltheim? My goodness, they could pretend that all the ideas in the suggestion box were actually theirs and deploy them. I doubt the community would mind. The suggestion box has enough ideas to completely fill out this game and then some.

There are so many good suggestions to implement in those forums that i doubt NGD can be out of ideas ...

[_Kharbon_]

Basicaly I agree with most posts in this thread.
Although eye-candy (I choose to use such term for those kind of updates) do attract old players back, but only to find out nothing much has changed apart from few textures. It also is true, that many RO players do use low-end hardware and so those features don't effect them (if lucky) or further decrease their performance. Most of those players that left didn't do so because of graphics, but because of lack of content, ballance, etc.

Another thing keeping players in game (and spending some xim) are gamesamba events, which are another topic alltogether.

It's just repeating what was said. Give us less eye candy and improve the game mechanics/content. A lot of players are leaving already and that's really not what Haven needs.


Edit: Althought I hope I'm wrong, I was dissapointed that trees don't become transparent when the camera is over them. This is really annoying and a strong reason I don't like warring in forested parts of the map (Alsius mostly).

[Slartibartfast]

Hi everyone!

We're glad to let you know that we find ourselves working on the upcoming update, which includes a large amount of changes of all kind.

Just so you can check out some of these changes, here are some screenshots showing the ones related to map edition:

Nice to see revamped graphics, but I really hope this will be just a minor set of changes comparing to other changes that will come up soon.

--
Slartibartfast / Exorcist

[Tamui]

These are really beautiful but...
Does this mean my FPS will go down by 1/3 or 1/2? :s

[Raoh]

Wow pretty colors and visuals.

Maybe, you know, the pretty scenery will offset the gameplay because the other realms will stop in the middle of the fight and say "Just look at that sand dune, see how it smooths over and drifts.....", only to be shot in the head with an arrow. :)

[Slartibartfast]

Maybe, you know, the pretty scenery will offset the gameplay because the other realms will stop in the middle of the fight and say "Just look at that sand dune, see how it smooths over and drifts.....", only to be shot in the head with an arrow. :)

Or even worse - to the knee xD

--
Slartibartfast / Exorcist

[Casting_beast]

Better graphic wont get your old players back NGD, better realm balance, bug fixes and class balance will... So maybe give em a hint on something similar you're working on instead of showing more eye candy ^^

Nice pictures, but i wont log in just for those :P

[iBoss]

Signature says it all...
Graphics NGD? Really?

[Raoh]

Signature says it all...
Graphics NGD? Really?

Wow iBoss.

Is this good for new players? (In a Tigerious like voice).

[blood-raven]

Or even worse - to the knee xD

--
Slartibartfast / Exorcist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDfxde8fSg

xD

[iBoss]

Wow iBoss.

Is this good for new players? (In a Tigerious like voice).

Sorry dude but, new players?
Why new players if the actual players of the game who have helped build this game up aren't even satisfied.

[Wield_II]

Come to think of it, new players.

Dont think I've had that moment for quite some months now, where your like ""hey who's that". Still if you want new players to stay in underpopulated realms that are being invaded consistently.

I would suggest offering them sanctuary instead of being raped over and over not even realizing what is going on yet. Best suggestion would be for level 60's to stop farming those that just left initiation zone, but guess there's nothing else to do when everyone is leaving due to realm imbalance anyway.

[Rising_Cold]

Come to think of it, new players.

Dont think I've had that moment for quite some months now, where your like ""hey who's that". Still if you want new players to stay in underpopulated realms that are being invaded consistently.


ive had that, just to turn out that they are old players who created a new char out of boredom xD

[Eyfura]

Come to think of it, new players.
...

I would suggest offering them sanctuary instead of being raped over and over not even realizing what is going on yet. Best suggestion would be for level 60's to stop farming those that just left initiation zone, but guess there's nothing else to do when everyone is leaving due to realm imbalance anyway.
Not bad idea actually imo. There could be some feature like that, if you are under lvl25, you can not be killed by enemy if you are inside your realm but you also can't attack them. However, if you leave to wz at lvl20 you can get killed.

I can just imagine new player has just started this game in alsius, syrtis is invading and kills same newbie 10 times...

In topic, actually, these screens look really great! Surprise us for once, make this great update with some nice balance chances as everyone is waiting for them!

[Wield_II]

On topic aswell;

Screenshots do look great.

May I suggest you do fix fall damage on new area's before bringing them to live servers.

[Nekoko]

...

Nice screenshots how much FPS will I lose when I see all that?

[Raindance]

Not bad idea actually imo. There could be some feature like that, if you are under lvl25, you can not be killed by enemy if you are inside your realm but you also can't attack them. However, if you leave to wz at lvl20 you can get killed.

I can just imagine new player has just started this game in alsius, syrtis is invading and kills same newbie 10 times...



That's kind of what instances are supposed to do, and well... NGD promised them to us, so maybe we'll get them this update, who knows.

[Tamui]

Nice screenshots how much FPS will I lose when I see all that?

That's what I'm afraid so too.
I bet mine will get down by a 1/3

[LittleHomer]

nice Screenshots ...

If the Update will be nice like them, I will be back :)

But Balance and FPS are also important :crying1:

[Seher]

Nice graphics.

BALANCEWHEN?

With any luck Donato, a few more of my ideas among great ones from others (substantial ones) may hit the testing server sometime. I still stand by the 18 month gestation period. Some of the best older ideas are close to that time-line now.

Let’s hope so. :P

My main issue with NGD isn’t their lack of ideas. They’ve got enough from us, and they’ve got plenty good stuff themselves, and definitely know their stuff. They just have the wrong priorities. Players who already play this game don’t want better graphics, they want stability and balance. A game with good mechanics gets recommended to others, and that’s the way f2p MMOs get users. We are way past the time when you just had to say “hey look, WoWish game for free”. The war about the best graphics is long gone, too. Only a few AAA titles still compete there, (even fewer for MMOs,) but that’s nothing NGD can do.
They definitely need to focus more on balance from a player’s point of view, and IMO even from a economical point of view. Long term wise. Better graphics will pay off way sooner.

Balance is so easily postponed. This needs a tight schedule!

[time-to-die]

Wauw great new grahpics!!!................

[JainFarstrider]

On topic:
The environmental updates look awesome. Alot of people don't understand how much of an impact these cosmetic updates have on the rate at which NGD receives new players. Keep it up guys.



+1. Although the current player base (I know quite a lot of players) is diminishing ever since the Warmasters thing started to go a little haywire.

[kmdk]

Awesome,at least i like a lots too see ,world and experience of traveling more interesting.
I was asking from long time if there are plans to revamp entire world with more vegetation ,more houses and better fields .

From my point +1.

[Hopeakettu]

I'm affraid that we'll get about the same crap just wrapped in a fancy paper and with more lags. :tsk_tsk:

[esp_tupac]

The prettier graphics look, the more lag ur gonna get during gameplay. Every update brings down fps by 30%. For me, my hardware can no longer keep up with the graphics since last update. The upcoming one is gonna totally destory my gameplay. While better looking graphics attract new players, many are leaving because of it. Sure the screenshots look nice so what? It's a RvR/PvR action game therefore the core is the combat mechanism of different classes, not graphics. I believe majority of us want a balance update or new content update (auction house etc) more than some change in graphics that brings more lag to the gameplay.

[LucianDeathshield]

The prettier graphics look, the more lag ur gonna get during gameplay. Every update brings down fps by 30%. For me, my hardware can no longer keep up with the graphics since last update. The upcoming one is gonna totally destory my gameplay. While better looking graphics attract new players, many are leaving because of it. Sure the screenshots look nice so what? It's a RvR/PvR action game therefore the core is the combat mechanism of different classes, not graphics. I believe majority of us want a balance update or new content update (auction house etc) more than some change in graphics that brings more lag to the gameplay.

-Awaiting QQ video from heph-

[LittleHomer]

When can we check out these changes on Amun? :sifflote:

[chilko]

The prettier graphics look, the more lag ur gonna get during gameplay.

the improvement that we made in the warzone mainly the new pine trees where made taking performance as an important consideration

actually those pine trees have almost the same amount of polygons as the old ones.

after 10 years we just became better at modeling pine trees

[iBoss]

after 10 years we just became better at modeling pine trees

This is indeed the only thing you have improved in for the last 2 years, yes.

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

Every Update, hotfix even, makes me hibbie gibbies. What will be screwed up this time? Will it make this game totally unplayable or not yet. Im thrilled!

[Casting_beast]

This is indeed the only thing you have improved in for the last 2 years, yes.

I think comments like this are the main reason why NGD "ignores" us players so much, on the other hand you're not far from the truth.....

/me is still waiting for the day when they become better at fixing bugs xD.

[iBoss]

I think comments like this are the main reason why NGD "ignores" us players so much.

The reason, main one actually, that comment 'like this' is because NGD ignores us in the first place..

[_Kharbon_]

the improvement that we made in the warzone mainly the new pine trees where made taking performance as an important consideration

actually those pine trees have almost the same amount of polygons as the old ones.

after 10 years we just became better at modeling pine trees

This is good to know, thanks for the info

[Ulti19]

You guys know NGD provides this game free of charge?
When they try to make improvements be grateful. They need money and they do what's best for them in the long run. And maybe they're working super hard and don't know exactly how to fix balance, so stfu and be happy with the pine trees:p

The reason they don't respond here often is probably because how we act towards the slightest things we disagree upon. The dude said 'Map changes' He's not going to post screenshots of them at their desks working on balance.
Maybe because that desk is none existant.

[Kitsuni]

You guys know NGD provides this game free of charge?
When they try to make improvements be grateful. They need money and they do what's best for them in the long run. And maybe they're working super hard and don't know exactly how to fix balance, so stfu and be happy with the pine trees:p

The reason they don't respond here often is probably because how we act towards the slightest things we disagree upon. The dude said 'Map changes' He's not going to post screenshots of them at their desks working on balance.
Maybe because that desk is none existant.
I understand where you're coming from here but people wouldn't get upset if NGD hadn't been promising a serious update for over two years now.

People have lives, they can't afford to wait around all of the time. This game has gotten incredibly slow.

And the game is not free of charge if you want to get to a decent level in any meaningful amount of time. That bare grind to level 60 at 11mil Xp, even with server boosts is likely to take at least 3 months of heavy grinding without the use of experience scrolls, then 6 more months for WM status. And after this, max level players who do not use war banners, mounts, potions and repair hammers are at a significant disadvantage, most warriors can't even afford to repair.

You should understand that the current state of things are not as they were at the beginning of Warmaster update, the difficulty has gone way up.

[Ulti19]

That's totally what i mean. This game is free. Don't spend years wishing for an update. Since the game is free, they owe us nothing. And I really hope no one brings up the 'but wo us loyal and amazing customers they'd be nothing' argument.

They promise updates and try to keep a road map to keep players knowing that there are expansions. What they expand and how they progress the game, even mistakes, is up to them. I've played super long too and i have that old nostalgia factor but the game has come a long way.

And the game is free of charge. You do not need lv scrolls or nada to enjoy it. If u think u need to be lv60 in 2 weeks, then u won't enjoy this game so much imo. It is a free game and i was max lv on my knight and had a blast before i ever bought any xim.

[Nekoko]

...

Will the areas still have the same amounts of mobs spawn after the retouch? It just seems like the last time we got graphic overhauls of areas the mobs seem to just wonder off, never to be seen again.

[71175]

And the game is not free of charge if you want to get to a decent level in any meaningful amount of time. That bare grind to level 60 at 11mil Xp, even with server boosts is likely to take at least 3 months of heavy grinding without the use of experience scrolls, then 6 more months for WM status. And after this, max level players who do not use war banners, mounts, potions and repair hammers are at a significant disadvantage, most warriors can't even afford to repair.


1st: it takes 2 months of actually heavy grinding
or, if u r pr0 grinder, 1 month
2nd: i approve, even as [premium and epic gear] free player i am often get devastated with repairs.

[Seher]

I think comments like this are the main reason why NGD "ignores" us players so much, on the other hand you're not far from the truth.....

They learned how to do balance, too. Sadly they don’t do this balance thingy any more.

[bois]

I'll wait for the update. See what they got. It may not have what players want most but to be fair, NGD has executed much faster and better than years gone by.

Their communication channels leaves much to be desired though. I am not surprised by that . The company culture seems to be exceptionally weak in that area. They try but it seems very unnatural for them. Maybe it is better with Spanish community.

[LittleHomer]

The changes looks nice ... If there will be changes for the balance and the warmaster skills --> i'll be back in game.

[Phlue4]

Frosk introduces some really nice graphical shots and the only thing you read in 5 pages are people complaining...
:ranting::gun_bandana::crying1::dumbofme::fury: :rale: :ranting:
it's so fucking disgusting

[Casting_beast]

Frosk introduces some really nice graphical shots and the only thing you read in 5 pages are people complaining...
:ranting::gun_bandana::crying1::dumbofme::fury: :rale: :ranting:
it's so fucking disgusting

You know whats "fucking disgusting"? Years-long unfixed bugs, realm/class imbalance and current invasions :P

[_Kharbon_]

Frosk introduces some really nice graphical shots and the only thing you read in 5 pages are people complaining...
:ranting::gun_bandana::crying1::dumbofme::fury: :rale: :ranting:
it's so fucking disgusting

The problem is (at least on Haven, I can't really comment on other servers, maybe they have positive responses on Spanish forum?), that we do not need graphics, we need more players, and balance.
Additionaly, there are people, including me, that already play on minimal requirements with bad fps, and don't have the means to buy or upgrade pc. Therefore those updates don't do anything in long term, but decrease the playability. Should I be happy for this?

This is only my option though, especialy on Ra things might be different. But if that's the case, isn't it time for a merge?

[Tamui]

The problem is (at least on Haven, I can't really comment on other servers, maybe they have positive responses on Spanish forum?), that we do not need graphics, we need more players, and balance.
Additionaly, there are people, including me, that already play on minimal requirements with bad fps, and don't have the means to buy or upgrade pc. Therefore those updates don't do anything in long term, but decrease the playability. Should I be happy for this?

This is only my option though, especialy on Ra things might be different. But if that's the case, isn't it time for a merge?

I seriously doubt they will merge Ra with Horu-...Haven. Why? 1) Ra is overpopulated. The server will probably be always full. 2) I see it as a 50/50 deal. A 50% chance to get more income or a 50% of frustrated players will leave the game ending up as haven's current state. Nevertheless I don't want more lags, I want some fun which currently the game is nothing giving me any. I wish to see game mechanics for less different populated servers

[Eyfura]

The problem is (at least on Haven, I can't really comment on other servers, maybe they have positive responses on Spanish forum?), that we do not need graphics, we need more players, and balance.
Additionaly, there are people, including me, that already play on minimal requirements with bad fps, and don't have the means to buy or upgrade pc. Therefore those updates don't do anything in long term, but decrease the playability. Should I be happy for this?

This is only my option though, especialy on Ra things might be different. But if that's the case, isn't it time for a merge?

I dont think you want merge if you really play with bad computer without willing to upgrade it. Sometimes I log into RA, while I have 60 fps at aggers on Haven, on Ra it goes down to 15-20 because of many people.

I like the graphic enchancements. I would though like balance or some bug fixes too, but maybe they have different teams working for these things.
To the artists on NGD I must give big +1. So wonderful job with new cities, now these, really great. And somewhat important to get new players interest, you know, when you are looking for new games you always check out screenshots. The ones on RO webpage should be updated btw ;)

[_Kharbon_]

As I stated, I have no idea what RA looks like, my point was, that while Haven is in need of balance, Ra might be fine (as from what you are saying it seems to be the case).

Furthermore I did not say that I am not willing to upgrade my computer (really I would have to buy whole new one), I just don't have the money.

Also it's might be the case, that the graphics department does not link together with the developing one, In that case there would be no interference of upcoming graphic update with the development of the game.

Still, the matter over realm balance on Haven needs to be looked over and steps taken, othervise it will only get worse.

[time-to-die]

And somewhat important to get new players interest, you know, when you are looking for new games you always check out screenshots. The ones on RO webpage should be updated btw ;)

hahahah the screenshots are still the same when i started thats 3 years ago D

[Evangeline]

is magna trade going to come up along with the new pine trees? :dumbofme:

We’ll be reinserting Magnanites in the world as a tradeable item! We’re happy to announce that Magnanites are back!
Now everyone will be able to trade them and to make things even more exciting we’ll add a completely new set of Magnanite Weapons.
To be released on July 2012.

[Hopeakettu]

is magna trade going to come up along with the new pine trees? :dumbofme:

Give them some time, magna could be a nice xmas present and maybe next year they'll even notice that a bunch of things need to be balanced...

[pauluzz]

Give them some time, magna could be a nice xmas present and maybe next year they'll even notice that a bunch of things need to be balanced...

Or maybe Halloween present? :)

Update could be in 2-2.5 weeks then

[bois]

Core development dept has to link with the art dept. There is no way they could deploy the graphics or items in world without major bugs and collision errors, engine drag etc. if they worked separately . Any major deployment of graphical changes would require all hands on board.

What it seems is that the department that does the core work is a very small team. Indeed it may be very few that know the code base through and through. Besides they have the guy working on the Mac ports, the server tools guy, the AI guy left before completing the new AI so who knows who is working on that. And so on...

I am not sure just how much and type of human resource they acquired when they merged companies.
Without a doubt the art department is very strong right now.

[Cannas]

I hope new magna weapons coming soon, passed 3 months of july

[Brother-brian]

So, all this simply means I'll have more crap to turn off inoptions to ensure that I still get decent FPS.

I currently have all weather effects off, all water effects off, particle effects off, anti-aliasing off, shadows off, terrain detail off, etc.

If I turn these options on, I get about 10 FPS if theres no one else around. Other players bring me down to 2-3 fps.

Seriously NGD, instead of continuing to eat up processor power with graphical crap, fix things that actaully MEAN something to gameplay, so that new players won't leave the "beautiful game" because of the imbalance, broken powers and various bugs and glitches.

/me is looking for this thread to get locked soon too.

[Evangeline]

play in safe mode :P that will disable everything at once :hat:

[Femhero]

I like the looks! :D