Does anyone still use "Recharged Arrows"?

[Thrillem]

After some time I came back to play again my marks (lvl 55) but now I see that the recharged arrows skill is totally destroyed. I have tried to use it but it eats up all my mana and health bar so fast that I have been forced to avoid it so I don't use it anymore. As a result my shots are very weak. I wonder if anyone still uses that skill.

My equipment compared with other marks is very poor. I have been trying to get better gear grinding but it seems that the drop rate has been reduced to zero. So I tried to buy from others but the magna trade has dissapeared and nobody wants gold. People only trade stuff if you give them better stuff. And I don't have so much money to buy lots of boxes to get better gear.

[JainFarstrider]

Recharged arrows sucks now. It's the reason I don't play my marks any more. I'm not very experienced at marks, I only have a level 52 one, so I don't really have a solution for you other than asking NGD to change the system.

I agree that marks was pretty OP, I was able to solo level 60 barbs and hunters on my level 52 marks, but the new recharged arrows seems a bit too drastic and not the best way to solve the problem.

[Casting_beast]

Same thing happened to hunters long ago.... If a skill is too OP, lets nerf it!! (NGD) and they dont care/do not realize that they destroy the whole class with it.

That is why i keep whining about nerfs, they have to be stoped, otherwise there wont be any proper spell left in this game to use. Nerf cannot be a solution for the real problem, never :P
Add new skills that compansate its "OPness" instead (or do not nerf it to death at least), more work yes, but the result speaks for itself and the effect will be awesome (hopefully) for the entire game.

[_Kharbon_]

If you search the forums, there are lot of posts about whether it's better to nerf or buff. There are advantages and disadvantages on both sides. I did not form an oppinion what should be done to overpowered or underpowered spells yet, as it's an extremely difficult topic. Also bear on mind, that perfect ballance can be achieved only if all classes are equal (hence, the same). This means that perfect ballance does not exist along variability of classes, as it is the case in most MMORPG's.

Anyway: on topic.
Recharged arrows were nerfed in order for players not to use them all the time, as was the case before the nerf (marks just activated them when they ressurected/dismounted and used them untill death).
I found out that grinding with emphsis on speed with reacharged arrows is impossible ;P. I do not have sufficient experience with marks to comment on slow bows and war situations.
Anyway, the aim of the nerf was to make recharged arrows a bit like Hunter's "Cold blood" - so Marks activate it only when they need to get a temporary boost in damage, and then again deactivate it.
I do however think, that the mana and hp decreasing might be too much - what if reacharged arrows had different kind of malus, eg. decreasing 500 health from the max hp only while they are activated (and returning the health after being deactivated), or having a low movement bonus (10-20%?).

Anyway, In general I do agree with the nerf, as it makes recharged arrows more of a "strategic" spell. To get the most of them, I suggest to use a slow bow, combined with damage (ds) rings. Marksmen still have other spells that are super-effective in war, make sure you use them as well.

As far as I know, there was no decrease in drop chances (at least no announced one). In addition, GameSamba activates loot bonuses once in a while. Mag trade was promised to be enabled during July, but still isn't - we might get it with the next update though. Noone knows. Also, you might want to check the official roadmap, it has been updated :) don't pay too much attention to the months or order of the updates, as there is a several month delay already.

[KlosPl]

Hp and mana in this skill is okay, they should yet bring old range, whis range is way too big ! loosing dynamic wars, cause of positioning stand, target an press 1-0 keys!

[blood-raven]

Hp and mana in this skill is okay, they should yet bring old range, whis range is way too big ! loosing dynamic wars, cause of positioning stand, target an press 1-0 keys!

That may be so but i hit 20ish on a buffed barb...
I don't think anyone will lay awake because of that.
So with your range nerf we would:
- do no damage
- have no range

You might not like the marks class, you might even hate it, but this statement is just dumb.

[Tamui]

I still use it. My marks is 60 but I did grind without Recharged Arrows. I haven't had a problem with it since marks has Serpent Bite, Shield Piercing and Dual Shot for good damage and low mana cost.
At war I don't have a problem either, when I begin to run low on mana I turn it off. I'm not OP geared either. 2 DS rings, Stone Token or Medal of Courage and WM lb with +13 great gem and a sb with around +35 damage. So yeah I still use it...5 infact :p

[71175]

Still use it on both of mine marx

[time-to-die]

I still use it got it on lvl5

[Casting_beast]

I still use it. My marks is 60 but I did grind without Recharged Arrows. I haven't had a problem with it since marks has Serpent Bite, Shield Piercing and Dual Shot for good damage and low mana cost.
At war I don't have a problem either, when I begin to run low on mana I turn it off. I'm not OP geared either. 2 DS rings, Stone Token or Medal of Courage and WM lb with +13 great gem and a sb with around +35 damage. So yeah I still use it...5 infact :p

You only forget one little thing "when you play your marks at war", the fact maybe that when you do so, there is alot of MC's and regen/heal alliies around that make your job too easy not to notice RA's down sides....

I can tell, even with OP gear and a lot of mana, RA IS just nerfed too much, its like WM ports with 20 mins CD :P

[Tamui]

You only forget one little thing "when you play your marks at war", the fact maybe that when you do so, there is alot of MC's and regen/heal alliies around that make your job too easy not to notice RA's down sides....

I can tell, even with OP gear and a lot of mana, RA IS just nerfed too much, its like WM ports with 20 mins CD :P

That is at Fort wars...at hunting sometiems i don't activate it. Then I use it like DF...although I keep it on after some Freeze or Ambush :p

[Thrillem]

Same thing happened to hunters long ago.... If a skill is too OP, lets nerf it!! (NGD) and they dont care/do not realize that they destroy the whole class with it.

That is why i keep whining about nerfs, they have to be stoped, otherwise there wont be any proper spell left in this game to use. Nerf cannot be a solution for the real problem, never :P
Add new skills that compansate its "OPness" instead (or do not nerf it to death at least), more work yes, but the result speaks for itself and the effect will be awesome (hopefully) for the entire game.

I agree completely with you C_B. It would be much better to improve other skills to compensate some possible "op" skills instead of nerfing them. That nerfing mania has destroyed many good skills and with that, as you well say, the whole class.

[Kitsuni]

I still use it. My marks is 60 but I did grind without Recharged Arrows. I haven't had a problem with it since marks has Serpent Bite, Shield Piercing and Dual Shot for good damage and low mana cost.
At war I don't have a problem either, when I begin to run low on mana I turn it off. I'm not OP geared either. 2 DS rings, Stone Token or Medal of Courage and WM lb with +13 great gem and a sb with around +35 damage. So yeah I still use it...5 infact :p
Well saying you're not OP geared with this kind of description is a bit senseless. A marks geared with WM bow and a great dmg gem is far above the norm. Any player below level 60 can't access anything even close to the Warmaster longbow, which does about the same amount of damage as a Magnanite longbow... Plus the Stone Token itself is pretty rare too. That's 15 damage (with RA and specialist) anyone who hasn't dropped it doesn't have.

When keeping in mind whether something is useful or not you have to think of the level 50-55 player and store items. Well to put it bluntly, a level 60 WM tends to be much more excessively equipped than an "average" player, even if we are still nothing compared to premium boxers or boss campers.

[71175]

Well saying you're not OP geared with this kind of description is a bit senseless. A marks geared with WM bow and a great dmg gem is far above the norm. Any player below level 60 can't access anything even close to the Warmaster longbow, which does about the same amount of damage as a Magnanite longbow... Plus the Stone Token itself is pretty rare too. That's 15 damage (with RA and specialist) anyone who hasn't dropped it doesn't have.

When keeping in mind whether something is useful or not you have to think of the level 50-55 player and store items. Well to put it bluntly, a level 60 WM tends to be much more excessively equipped than an "average" player, even if we are still nothing compared to premium boxers or boss campers.
Just saying that WM lb is a waste if u got any special lvl60 lb. same with sb
Signed: marx with WM lb and special +49 dmg lb

[Kitsuni]

Just saying that WM lb is a waste if u got any special lvl60 lb. same with sb
Signed: marx with WM lb and special +49 dmg lb
The source of such items are usually boxes, or traded from players who used boxes or drop scrolls...

Drop rate of decent special+ items for a normal player is next to nothing.

[Shwish]

Just saying that WM lb is a waste if u got any special lvl60 lb. same with sb
Signed: marx with WM lb and special +49 dmg lb

At least marksman warmaster bows are slightly better than regular level 60 bows unlike the hunter warmaster bows. I don't understand how NGD can make such shitty warmaster weapons for hunters.

Sorry for being off-topic. Needed to get that off my chest.

[Rising_Cold]

thrillem which realm do you play in? I got some marks gear that i dont use so if you're alsius..

anyway i still think RA is worth it, but you'd have to change how you use it i guess

[LittleHomer]

The spell is still useful, but it's not if you are using it constantly. Use it if you need it. It's a nice step to a better balance. But, the marksman isn't op because of this spell ... This is the fault.

[pieceofmeat]

You can definitely use it alot on lvl 1 or more sporadically on lvl 5, whatever you feel like.

I prefer to save four PPs and be able to grind with RA without interruption.

Then again im not really into the class at all, getting my marks to 50 was the biggest waste of time and money as a RO player.
I got bored within a few weeks of hitting the (old) cap, not going to make the same mistake again with four more lvl 60 classes to play.

The class was extremely easy to play despite all the whining about nerfs (haha they should have known what was coming), which was why I made one to begin with.

Since then NGD have done decent job toning the class down to a more reasonable level. That was important to do and I even feel a slight appeal to play the class again, but i doubt its enough to fool me into any serious grinding.

Edit: oh and high level marksmen that claim to be hitting 20ish on self-buffed barbs dont need better gear they need glasses.

[Allforplaying]

I have never agreed with the nerf on recharged arrows. To my own it couldn't balance the marks, and affected preferentely to the marks like me who haven't have a nice set. The xymeboy marksman is still doing excesive damages.

To the creator of the thread the answer is NO, i don't use recharged. I put in this place the passive of long bows which english name i don't know.

[Anpu]

I still use RA, and didn't really find the exact purpose of this RA change. But fine. I dont use marksman now and found playing conjurer (even not 60) much more fun.

[ByteMe]

My son and I both retrained to drop recharged after the update.

I'm lvl 60 Marks and he is lvl 59. It is not worth the points with the negative effects.