Balance

[TheMessenger]

http://i.imgur.com/4Tban.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WUrYT.jpg

Balance, Fuck yea :punk:

[LucianDeathshield]

It sucks even more when you can't even see the barb coming because of your FoV, get kick 5'd and critted twice in a row for 2k and die

[Hollow-Ichigo]

yeah.... balance is so good...

[blood-raven]

If you're being killed by a barb as a marks you either: suck/ have bad luck/ allowed him to.
No other way, balance has nothing to do with you loosing.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

If you're being killed by a barb as a marks you either: suck/ have bad luck/ allowed him to.
No other way, balance has nothing to do with you loosing.

if u look at BPR's screenshot closely, u can see he has low lvl spells and not lvl 5 WS and BoW like MOST marksman do. Also, his ambush was resisted and a barb with spring and UM is unstoppable...

[Quincebo]

if u look at BPR's screenshot closely, u can see he has low lvl spells and not lvl 5 WS and BoW like MOST marksman do. Also, his ambush was resisted and a barb with spring and UM is unstoppable...

Not really, a good slow spell or 2 does the trick already

If you're being killed by a barb as a marks you either: suck/ have bad luck/ allowed him to.
No other way, balance has nothing to do with you loosing.

I agree with you, a barb in open field should never win against an decent marks of the same level

[Hollow-Ichigo]

I agree with you, a barb in open field should never win against an decent marks of the same level

open field a marks should never die, but again in the screenshot their is a big grey thing called a rock :bangin:

[smeagle_errei]

OFC barbs r a disbalanced class. i would like to see some1 who disagree and hasnt a barb. i only realized that barbs r a complete disbalance after starting playing with my lock.

and, yes man, it isnt a good excuse. that guy is not even a good barb lol

[Hollow-Ichigo]

OFC barbs r a disbalanced class. i would like to see some1 who disagree and hasnt a barb. i only realized that barbs r a complete disbalance after starting playing with my lock.

and, yes man, it isnt a good excuse. that guy is not even a good barb lol

how would you know who is good and who isnt? people improve and learn what to do in different situations, im just amazed he didnt use rage of the earth.

[Shwish]

i only realized that barbs r a complete disbalance after starting playing with my lock.


I find that strange. As a warlock, a barbarian is one of the more easier classes to beat unless he has a DI.

[smeagle_errei]

I find that strange. As a warlock, a barbarian is one of the more easier classes to beat unless he has a DI.
true.
but seeing my brothers (hunter) playing and while im hunting with other ppl, thtas not the case of easy-kill.
if the barb resist your freeze/ivy/anything important/slow: game over
if the barb gets horn and hes UMed and springed: game over
if the barb find a tree to hide and hes willing to treehug till any1else comes out: game over

i said i realized that barbs r imbalanced since staring playing with lock because i never played a ranged class b4. and since i started playing it, i (tryed to) learn how is the ranged vs melee fights.

never said i died very often to barbs, nor they were my locks main trouble.

[TheMessenger]

Am i being criticized for not kiting 1v1 and having the balls to fight a barb upclose or am I seeing shit?

[blood-raven]

open field a marks should never die, but again in the screenshot their is a big grey thing called a rock :bangin:

Why would you want to attack a barb around a rock?
It's asking to be killed.

Am i being criticized for not kiting 1v1 and having the balls to fight a barb upclose or am I seeing shit?

I do agree that close combat is more fun but it's just not worth it anymore, sotw fails 90% of the time, ambush gets resisted everytime you try to cast it and Ra kills you.
I had a couple of pvps with fireborn and i ended up winning one out of 5 because ofsotw fails and ambush resists.

Kiting is not fun but it's all you can do it seems.

[Tenel_Ka]

if the barb resist your freeze/ivy/anything important/slow: game over
if the barb gets horn and hes UMed and springed: game over
if the barb find a tree to hide and hes willing to treehug till any1else comes out: game over

-The barb has to rely on the warlock's spells failing or the warlock making a mistake. The warlock holds all the cards.
-The barb has no chance if the warlock's horned and the barb isn't.
-The warlock can just walk away from that tree before the barb calls for allies. If the warlock calls for allies, the barb's pinned to that tree.

Am i being criticized for not kiting 1v1 and having the balls to fight a barb upclose or am I seeing shit?

Well, this thread sounds very whiny. A marksman can easily win an open field battle with a barb, and you would've won the close-range fight if it wasn't for the random resists. I can agree though that SotW is too unreliable and random resists make a lot of battles a game of chance, rather than skill.

[Shwish]

Am i being criticized for not kiting 1v1 and having the balls to fight a barb upclose or am I seeing shit?

No. You're getting criticized because that's all people do on this forum.

[TheMessenger]

Not really, a good slow spell or 2 does the trick already



I agree with you, a barb in open field should never win against an decent marks of the same level

So, you are saying I should waste a 180cd spell on one opponent? Or that I should skill sb17 and/or tricks19 for hinder and/or caltrops? Seems logical. Also, anytime a barb is slowed they quickly hump a rock/tree)

I love how a barb says that a marks has to/should kite to win, but will go into another thread and complain about kiting. Legit bro.

[blood-raven]

No. You're getting criticized because that's all people do on this forum.

No that's because that's how life is.
If you can't live with criticism why even bother?

[TheMessenger]

Well, this thread sounds very whiny. A marksman can easily win an open field battle with a barb, and you would've won the close-range fight if it wasn't for the random resists. I can agree though that SotW is too unreliable and random resists make a lot of battles a game of chance, rather than skill.

Probably cause I was raging when I made it, but I didnt make it to complain about being killed. I made it because of how I was killed, under 1 kick and because of resists, its fucking stupid. I shouldnt have to kite a barb the entire fight to win and no class should be able to kill or be killed in 1 knock, it conpletely ruins the fun of fighting
or wanting to fight in close range. Random resists/evades/fails is another rage.

[TheMessenger]

No that's because that's how life is.
If you can't live with criticism why even bother?

Im happy you condone the suicides of, among others, Amanda Todd and Felicia Garcia.

[blood-raven]

Im happy you condone the suicides of, among others, Amanda Todd and Felicia Garcia.

Don't try to make me feel bad cause it's not working.
Trying to cover your own failure with suicides is just sad.

[Shwish]

Don't try to make me feel bad cause it's not working.
Trying to cover your own failure with suicides is just sad.

You seem to be in a bad mood

[blood-raven]

You seem to be in a bad mood

Not really but i hate it when people want to make you feel bad to cover up their own failure at coping with common things in life, in his case criticism.

[Pnarpa]

Guys, guys, guys... Stop criticizing each other! We all suck!

[TheMessenger]

Don't try to make me feel bad cause it's not working.
Trying to cover your own failure with suicides is just sad.

Lolwut? You are the one that decided to be overdramatic, basically saying, "hurr durr if u cnt handle suicide why live?/kill yourself".

You are mad because I put what you said in context and showed your arrogance, now you are trying to backpedal and run damage control.

[blood-raven]

Lolwut? You are the one that decided to be overdramatic, basically saying, "hurr durr if u cnt handle suicide why live?/kill yourself".

You are mad because I put what you said in context and showed your arrogance, now you are trying to backpedal and run damage control.

And you're not seeing straight.

Where exactly did i say "suicide why live"?
If you want to refer to "bla bla why bother" that was: why bother posting here?

And how is "boohoo you don't feel bad cuz someone suicided" is putting things into context?
That maybe your context but i don't think of the guys that suicided everytime someone says you should just deal with it...

And arrogance? I think you're the one being cocky here, trying to be mister moral.

[TheMessenger]

And you're not seeing straight.

Where exactly did i say "suicide why live"?
If you want to refer to "bla bla why bother" that was: why bother posting here?

And how is "boohoo you don't feel bad cuz someone suicided" is putting things into context?
That maybe your context but i don't think of the guys that suicided everytime someone says you should just deal with it...

And arrogance? I think you're the one being cocky here, trying to be mister moral.

im on my phone so I cant quote it atm- but you said something like, "if you cant handle croticism, something very common in life, why bother?"
Why would you even bring real life into this, like someone already said you seem to be butthurt. Whether I have problems about criticism or not is irrelevant, why are you trying to get personal.

Yea, why should I bother using the forum for a game I play to talk about an aspect/scenario of the game I play. That audacity.

You didnt say "just deal with it", that is leaning moee towards optimism, telling someone to keep going. You said, "why bother?", leaning towards pessimism, telling someone that if they cant handle one small aspect of life they should just give up/not continue on.

As for being arrogant and mister moral, how am I being arrogant or cocky? And how am I being mister moral? I dont recall ever criticizing your views on suicide, just acknowledged what they are.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

dont blame him bpr, hes used to zerging other barbs with 20 ppl :bangin:

[errei]

Guys, guys, guys... Stop criticizing each other! We all suck!

trueeee!!!
++1!

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

yeah.... balance is so good...

Lol, this isn't balance, it is punishment for DoT spammers.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Lol, this isn't balance, it is punishment for DoT spammers.

yeah because having 2 DoTs is really overpowered...

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

yeah because having 2 DoTs is really overpowered...

It is not about having 2 DoTs or not, it is about how you use them. He got you in the open, environment in which lock has advantage over barb. How fortunate that there is always "balance" to blame.

[trulyem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9fSmypCrq0

You forgot your conju somewhere, LOL

[kathastrophe]

I talk in RvR mode, a place where a Barb can do all he want. The damage, defenses, speed, ccs and easy play of a barb make the most powerful subclass in the game. NOthing to say about a barb with the old horn, DI and something more =)

In pvp is really easy beat a barb being a mark, but if u have the bad luck of a kick (5) with Sow, cry to churche.

Salud! ;)

Pd: Oreo is a nub, ppl never forget :p

[time-to-die]

mhmh a barbb kills me almost with 1 hit?...35002

[TheMessenger]

I talk in RvR mode, a place where a Barb can do all he want. The damage, defenses, speed, ccs and easy play of a barb make the most powerful subclass in the game. NOthing to say about a barb with the old horn, DI and something more =)

In pvp is really easy beat a barb being a mark, but if u have the bad luck of a kick (5) with Sow, cry to churche.

Salud! ;)

Pd: Oreo is a nub, ppl never forget :p

I bet you wont log on haven and say that to my face noob

[AlsianLamai]

I bet you wont log on haven and say that to my face noob

Oreo dear,

I doubt serious that such a thing would happen.

But Id love to see it. :)

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Pd: Oreo is a nub, ppl never forget :p

actually drew is one of the best marks in haven and the game i should say, im sure on your server there is non stop zerging which leads to 'nubs' as you say not being able to pvp properly...

[TheMessenger]

Oreo dear,

I doubt serious that such a thing would happen.

But Id love to see it. :)

cause kath is scared. I am his master, he is mi son.

[GreenAngel]

actually drew is one of the best marks in haven and the game i should say, im sure on your server there is non stop zerging which leads to 'nubs' as you say not being able to pvp properly...

Could be, possible. But that doesn't mean he should act like a mofo and he can challenge everyone... Childish.

[TheMessenger]

Could be, possible. But that doesn't mean he should act like a mofo and he can challenge everyone... Childish.

Doesn't mean I shouldn't either.
Also, "Childish" is subjective.
GG no re

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Could be, possible. But that doesn't mean he should act like a mofo and he can challenge everyone... Childish.

he didnt challenge everyone, he merely asked the person who called him 'nub' to pvp him, get ur facts right before u post.

[GreenAngel]

Cath says nub, so he challenges Cath and says he's afraid when Cath doesn't respond to that message. Im sorry but I think someone is taking this game way to serious. And btw Hollow, you have to pvp everyone who calls you noob?

[Shwish]

Cath says nub, so he challenges Cath and says he's afraid when Cath doesn't respond to that message. Im sorry but I think someone is taking this game way to serious. And btw Hollow, you have to pvp everyone who calls you noob?

Quite honestly I think someone is taking this forum way too serious. There's nothing wrong with some smack talk amongst friends. I doubt either of them were being serious.

[LucianDeathshield]

Cath says nub, so he challenges Cath and says he's afraid when Cath doesn't respond to that message. Im sorry but I think someone is taking this game way to serious. And btw Hollow, you have to pvp everyone who calls you noob?

stfu noob, pvp me , faggot

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Cath says nub, so he challenges Cath and says he's afraid when Cath doesn't respond to that message. Im sorry but I think someone is taking this game way to serious. And btw Hollow, you have to pvp everyone who calls you noob?

it really depends on who calls me it, i wont pvp someone if i know im gonna win...

[TheMessenger]

Cath says nub, so he challenges Cath and says he's afraid when Cath doesn't respond to that message. Im sorry but I think someone is taking this game way to serious. And btw Hollow, you have to pvp everyone who calls you noob?

That noobs name clearly says Kathastrophe, so why are you calling him Cath?

Also, im so serious. He is a big mouth hola that needs to get his mouth shut.

[Pwnography]

GG no re

Drop them Gs son.

[TheMessenger]

Drop them Gs son.

Wtf did u jus say? Ill pvp you too noob. Thats why your hunter namdle is captain nintendo, but more like captain NOOBtendo LOL

[Pwnography]

Wtf did u jus say? Ill pvp you too noob. Thats why your hunter namdle is captain nintendo, but more like captain NOOBtendo LOL

dafuq u say to me bish? ill have you know my dad told me stories of the guy who was considered the #5 sniper in world war 2 and I made it into the top 4000 in call of duty on the ps3. I dare you to say that to my face. DO YOU EVEN LIFT?

[Shwish]

:bananajoy: wtf does this emote mean?

[kathastrophe]

actually drew is one of the best marks in haven and the game i should say, im sure on your server there is non stop zerging which leads to 'nubs' as you say not being able to pvp properly...

I'm the father of nuboreo, take it easy, i can say him "nub" when i want.

My server is "Ra" and there all sucks, me too.

And I pvp against that nub and he suck, better unistall.

Salud! ;)

[trulyem]

Come to RA and get your Ego dropped :)

I'll be happy to *itchslap you too ^^

[TheMessenger]

I'm the father of nuboreo, take it easy, i can say him "nub" when i want.

My server is "Ra" and there all sucks, me too.

And I pvp against that nub and he suck, better unistall.

Salud! ;)

<3 <3

Come back to haven please. I miss you.


Come to RA and get your Ego dropped :)

I'll be happy to *itchslap you too ^^


By who...you?

Loloh.