Vitality absorption with SK/Vamp

[Immune]

I was just wondering, does vitality absorption, which causes damage to be drained as hp, have any effect on SK or vampirism? For instance, VA 5 with SK 5 = 1100 hp instead of 1000? Has anyone tested this before?

[AariEv]

No, Vitality Absorption doesn't work with spells like vampirism and soulkeeper... at least not the last time I tested it.

[VandaMan]

^Can confirm. Vamp and SK work as some sort of "health lost" thing instead of "damage dealt," or something similar. Same reason it doesn't work as you may expect against retal.

[jorgeseg]

^Can confirm. Vamp and SK work as some sort of "health lost" thing instead of "damage dealt," or something similar. Same reason it doesn't work as you may expect against retal.

Retal do works on soulkeeper. If retal is lvl 4 and SK lvl 5, it will give u just 75hp per second, instead of 100.

[VandaMan]

Retal do works on soulkeeper. If retal is lvl 4 and SK lvl 5, it will give u just 75hp per second, instead of 100.

I'm not sure how you can call that working as expected...

[jorgeseg]

I'm not sure how you can call that working as expected...

Never said "working as expected" but it does, retail lvl 4 returns 75% of the damage, sk lvl 5 drains 100 hp. Do ur maths and u will see it works as it should.

[VandaMan]

Never said "working as expected" but it does
Well to quote "it doesn't work as you may expect against retal" and then respond with "Retal do works on soulkeeper" rather strongly implies that you think it works as expected xD

Retal do works on soulkeeper. If retal is lvl 4 and SK lvl 5, it will give u just 75hp per second, instead of 100.
retail lvl 4 returns 75% of the damage, sk lvl 5 drains 100 hp. Do ur maths and u will see it works as it should.

If it worked correctly in the situation you describe, it would deal 25 damage per second to the archer, and deal 50 per second to the warlock (75 dps from retal - 25 dps from sk drain). This is not the case though, and that's all I meant. I'm not sure you've "done ur maths" quite right xD

[AariEv]

... Do ur maths and u will see it works as it should.

If I inflict 100 damage and you use Retal (4) which reflects 75% of the damage (which means you should only receive 25 damage).... how is it working "as it should" if you say you receive 75 damage while the warlock regains the same amount?

Please explain ur maths

Edit: Van beat me to it.

[VandaMan]

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[jorgeseg]

If I inflict 100 damage and you use Retal (4) which reflects 75% of the damage (which means you should only receive 25 damage).... how is it working "as it should" if you say you receive 75 damage while the warlock regains the same amount?

Please explain ur maths

Edit: Van beat me to it.

Hmm prolly i got confused by the colours of damages and it gives u only 25hp? Be back as soon as an archer cast retal on my sk :D

[AariEv]

Hmm prolly i got confused by the colours of damages and it gives u only 25hp? Be back as soon as an archer cast retal on my sk :D

Actually, I've never noticed a value being returned from Soul Keeper (5) other than 100 hp (or 0 hp). I was under the impression that Soul Keeper represented a fixed DoT drain that couldn't be modified by armor or spells... like Retaliation.

Though hard to believe, It's quite possible that I haven't casted Soul Keeper on an archer who then used Retal, so I can't say for sure.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

SK is a fixed DoT spell as you said ^^, it cannot be retaliated neither by archers. Pity :)

[Immune]

SK is a fixed DoT spell as you said ^^, it cannot be retaliated neither by archers. Pity :)

Actually this is wrong. I have used retal against SK many times before; I have also had my own SK retaliated. It does return damage. Retal 5 vs SK 5 means the lock will only get a net total of 10 hp per second. The numbers will still say +100 hp, but you should also see -90 at the same time (this part won't show in the log though).

Retal doesn't work vs vamp though, so I'm not sure if it's a bug perhaps since these are 2 similar spells.

[71175]

Actually this is wrong. I have used retal against SK many times before; I have also had my own SK retaliated. It does return damage. Retal 5 vs SK 5 means the lock will only get a net total of 10 hp per second. The numbers will still say +100 hp, but you should also see -90 at the same time (this part won't show in the log though).

Retal doesn't work vs vamp though, so I'm not sure if it's a bug perhaps since these are 2 similar spells.

actually with vamp it is the same like casting lighting on you after you casted retailate.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

Actually this is wrong. I have used retal against SK many times before; I have also had my own SK retaliated. It does return damage. Retal 5 vs SK 5 means the lock will only get a net total of 10 hp per second. The numbers will still say +100 hp, but you should also see -90 at the same time (this part won't show in the log though).

Retal doesn't work vs vamp though, so I'm not sure if it's a bug perhaps since these are 2 similar spells.

Ahhhh, my bad then Immune thanks :D
I never saw anything in my log when used retaliation after a SK, thats way I thought It's fixed.
Would be cool if NGD would fix this issue, either fix the bug (if it's one) or add to the log please :thumb:.